June 29, 2026

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This time I'm going to open where the county commissioner is meeting for June 29th 2026 and I guess I will lead the Pledge of Allegiance. How's that? to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. Thank you. This is a joint meeting of my county board of county commissioners, my county board of highway commissioners, licensing and liquor board, board of health. Sitting as the governing body of the unincorporated town of Pahrump, and the governing body of unincorporated towns of Beatty, Gab, and Manhattan, and the Board of Trustees for Pahrump Pool District. Again, for June 29, 2026. Commissioner Baskovich is on the phone. Commissioner Jabbour is in Tonopah, and I am here, and that's it. This time I'm going to open Agenda item number two.

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Item two, general public comment. At the three minute time limit per person, public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.

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Thank you. Come on down.

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Stephen Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N. Good morning, commissioners. I would like to know if you have heard if there is an approved location for the recycle bins from consolidated waste? Not yet? Okay. And I respectfully request that you decline any permits or for building of any data center or medical waste disposal facility. Thank you.

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I'm not sure I want to waste my three minutes. My audience isn't big enough. Anyway, here's what I will say. As an unofficial member... of the, I'm

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Your name, please.

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sorry, Marianne Hollis, H-O-L-L-I-S. As an unofficial member of the Fairgrounds Ad Hoc Committee, I have been conducting additional searches into the most recent needs and costs thereof for the fairgrounds. But I want to know why the process to further the committee being established has been stalled. Did I miss the Pahrump Valley Times ad for interested citizens to apply? And the first request when this was first discussed was for the half a million dollar design build for the Civic Center. That was six weeks ago. I have, I'm on my fifth source to find it. Five. Where is it? Who do I go to for it? I've been top to bottom, left and right. No excuse for it. And when I was completing my records, I came across many issues that were troubling, and I'll just talk about one of them. And I'm sorry that Commissioner Strickland isn't here. Because it directly involves her, and I'll probably repeat it. June 7, 2024, GOED, the Nevada Governor's Office of Economic Development, sent the award letter to Commissioner Strickland for the $700,000 grant from the CDBG grant. Now you're ready for this? To the city of Fallon. Where the hell is Fallon? And I also want to know, and I've made a public records request, because in this letter, it says, please sign the original grant award agreement. Now this is written to Commissioner Strickland. And a certification letter. The letter must be printed on City of Fallon stationery. Now I want to know how that could have happened, if it even did happen. It's just, these are the things that are becoming uncovered and it leaves me with one question. What exactly is the plan? For the fairgrounds. Any project that comes forward, it's not funded. There's no funding source for it. And yet we're going ahead with a commercial size well to provide water for items that might be on the fairground, which right now is a little kiddie track that's been open maybe under 10 times.

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Why is the committee being stalled? Thank you.

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Commissioner DeBoer, is there anyone up there?

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Nobody in chambers for public comment. Thank you, Chair.

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Is there anybody on the phone?

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No, Vice Chair.

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Go ahead, Dwight.

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Hi, Dwight Lilly, L-I-L-L-Y. I watched an agenda item and I was upset that Deborah Strickland was attacked by Commissioner Bain verbally over a period of time. I was hoping that would not happen, but it did. And I think he owes her an apology. And he also needs to have his. candidate for our 5th district go out and pick the rest of his campaign signs out out in 5th district but that wasn't what I really want to talk about today back in 2012 the Nye County commissioners took a vote had the people go vote whether or not they wanted to continue on with a town board form of government and at that time I was concerned that the county would co-mingle the funds of the town and I was promised I think it was Donna Cox, Dan Shenhoff and I know Joni Eastley I talked to Baskovit I'm not Baskovit, which Braske, Dwight we're not going to take any money this is just the town board is crazy okay yeah okay so here we are I grew up when a handshake meant something or your word meant something. It was a word. The Bible in Psalm 54 says, keep your word even when it costs you. Now, a famous bank robber, Willie Sutton, was asked why he robbed banks. You know what he said? He said, well, because that's where the money's at. So, I got a problem with Nye County taking funds out of the town of Prumps to fund sheriff deputies to fund Nye County animal shelters, that says it right on the county's website, any other expenses there. And I have a problem with it because I believe the county commission should keep their word. Keep your word. Your bond is what it is. Now one last comment I want to make. I'm again asking as a member of the public, as a taxpayer of Nye County and Pahrump, for a, I want to have an audit, I want a forensic audit of county finances. The NRS says I can have that I'm asking for. I brought it up several times in the past. We need to get to the bottom of why the county is in the dire straits that they're in causing a lot of this. And I thank you.

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Thank you, Dwight.

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One second. Bond, Alinda.

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Good morning, everybody. Linda Clark, C-L-A-R-K. I want to wish everybody a happy 4th of July. I want everybody to remember why we're celebrating this holiday. We had a lot of people before us that gave their lives, including our military, and they fought for our freedom. And we need to remember that on this day coming up. And all this other garbage that's going on in our country right now doesn't mean a damn thing. We need to keep our freedom and we need to do that as much as we can. Everybody's fighting against us and we sure know that here in this county. We get piled on for everything and we don't have very much support from our public officials. The rest of you are fine. I'm not blaming our public. We have a lot of things that need to be discovered like DeWaite said. And we're not getting the answers. We have a lot of money. We don't know where it is and why don't we know where it is and I'm not blaming Xena or Bei that was here before her. I would like to see this board and all of our other boards start supporting their community more instead of their own purposes. And we know that's going on. It's very evident to all of us. So I don't know why someone would run for an office and think that it's all about them. It seems to be the way it goes here. And it must be not in our water. We don't have enough water to spoil on that. But I would like them to pay more attention to what's going on here and remember to put the public first. And I always go back to the same thing. The government is for the people, by the people, not your people. Thank you.

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Thank you, Linda. Anybody else? Anyone on the phone?

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There's no caller on the phone.

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Mr. Jabal, anybody in Tonopah?

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I'll close the general public comment. Item number three.

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Item three, Commissioner Manager comments. This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff for topics proposed for future board meetings, lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law.

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Mr. Jabbour, do you have anything?

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Nope. Good morning, everybody. And thank you for being here today.

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And that's the same for me, and let's move on. Item number four.

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Hold on, John.

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I just one thing wanted to address the

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comment about the recycling bins. We are still in the process of working out a property access agreement, just trying to iron out who's responsible for what portions. Again, it would be located right next to the town tourism office and where buildings and grounds is in that empty lot.

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Hello, Chair. Hey, I just wanted to say good morning to everyone and Laughlin and the River are beautiful this time of year and it's not even 100 degrees. So there you go. That's all I got.

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You want to say your name so we know who he's talking to? Hi Ron.

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Commissioner Boskovich, BOSKOVIC.

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Good morning, Chair Stephanie Elliott, E-L-L-I-O-T-T. Just a reminder that we have our first of three meetings coming up for the Community Development Block Grant, the 2026 through 2027 grant cycle. Updated information is now available on the website, including the preliminary application. We've started to reach out to some of the locals as well as the rural communities. It is an opportunity to have the public talk about different infrastructure ideas that they have and to comment about any of the previous projects that have been funded through CDBG. Thank you.

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Good morning, Commissioner. Scott Lewis, LEWIS. Town of Brown Fire Chief and Director of Emergency Management. Just to let you know, we just completed our TEM staff meeting and all respective towns are prepared for the 4th of July and they have their fireworks show lined up. We are closely monitoring the weather and in our staffing models everything looks good at this point. So if there are any questions, just please let us know. Thank you.

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Thank you. Do you have anything? Nothing? You sure? No statistics or nothing like that today, huh? Zena, do you have anything?

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No chair, I will speak on my items today. Thank you.

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I'm waiting. That's it? Nobody else? I will close again. Commissioner, remind us your comments. Item number four. Hmm

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Item 6, 10 a.m. timed item for possible action, public hearing discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt, reject Nye County Resolution Number 2026-10, resolution to augment and amend the 2025-2026 budget of Nye County, State of Nevada.

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10101 general fund in the amount of 1.5 million dollars 10209 airport in the amount of ninety four thousand three hundred and seventy two dollars 10284 dedicated medical indigent in the amount of five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars and 27

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502 Manhattan water for the amount of $25,000

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Thank you. I'm going to let us discuss this before I call for public comment so you guys know what we're doing. Go ahead, Zina.

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Good morning, Commissioner Zena Teisch, T-E-I-C-H. These augments are required per NRS because we've either received excess revenue or we've overspent in certain areas. So for the general fund, we're moving $1.5 million around. In the airport fund, we're moving $94,000. Dedicated medical indigent, $575,000, and the Manhattan Water District. $25,000. I did have a somebody reach out to me and question the Manhattan water district. So upon investigation, it's been identified that the population of the water district has significantly decreased from 2008 to 2025. In 2008, the population was 100. was 124. The population as of July 1 of 25 is 64, which is the reason for not receiving enough revenue to support that Enterprise Fund. So at this time, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

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Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Jabbour, do you have anything?

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Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Zaina.

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Zane, I have a bunch of things here, questions here. So when you say that we're moving money monies around, and that's correct that Manhattan is less than half of what the population was, but they do have a water system, a water system necessary for their survival up there.

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But when we're moving monies from the three airports that we operate, 94,000, what does that mean, please, and let me hone in on the... Airports specifically, for example, airports, the airport funds for the three, Gabs, Beatty, and Tonopah. What does this mean that we're moving monies around in the amount of $94,000, please?

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I am going to defer this question to the finance manager for Airports Public Works. I'd like to see if she's on the phone.

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I don't have anyone on the phone.

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Are we trying to get somebody on the phone, please, Zaina?

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Yes, Commissioner. If you'd like to go to the next item and when we have the person, we can let you know.

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Okay, let me go to the general then. The general funds of $1.5 million. What does this mean that we're moving $1.5 million through the general?

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So if you look at the backup of the budget movements, the first page of the backup, it says page one, but it's actually, it's actually, one, two, three, if you're looking at it as a PDF, it's page four.

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Okay, I've got my binder in front of me.

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Okay, thank you. So consolidated tax, we budgeted $21 million and we've received more than what we budgeted for. So we're increasing the budget for consolidated tax. We're increasing it by 427,000. And then the, on the next page, legal aid under fines and for,

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under legal aid, yes.

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fines and forfeitures, we budget $186,000. We've received actual revenue above the budget $1,072,000. So we're increasing the budget for that item.

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And then on the expenditure side, by function, because there are certain areas that overspent and some areas that underspent, what we're doing is we're moving the budget around in order to prevent a over budget of expenditures. So we increased.

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In general government, service and supplies for the commissioner by $21,000. We reduced administration by $20,000. We reduced the comptroller department by $20,000. We increased IT by $31,000. We increased HR by $50,000. We decreased public communications by $27,000. We decreased planning by $50,000.

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In the assessor, we decreased employee benefits by $150,000. In the clerk's office, we decreased service and supplies by $102,000. In the recorder department, we increased service and supplies by $42,000. Buildings and grounds, we increase service and supplies, I'm sorry, we decreased service and supplies by $20,000. We decreased service and supplies for equipment services for $78,000. And under, we call it miscellaneous overhead, it's actually an administrative overhead for all of the general fund. operating departments, we decreased it by $150,000.

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do you want me to continue?

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Let's pause for a moment, please, Zaina. Thank you. And these are all sections that I have highlighted. And if I go to and speak for myself as commissioner, I know that so under our category of commissioners, we have an increase of $21,000 for the budget. So I know that...

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The commissioners, on an annual basis, we are allowed and allotted each one of us approximately $3,000 for travel, for different expenses, for different meetings that we have to go within interstate, etc. And it's public record. They're welcome to look. Mine specifically, I am under budget.

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and have saved the county approximately fifteen thousand dollars since I took my seat so I'm not sure why we're increasing the budget for the commissioners by twenty one thousand when I haven't even come close to spending my portion of of what I'm allotted as an example you're not on record please manager

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Yeah, Commissioner, this is Lorena. I can respond to that. We had some requests made during last fiscal year. A big portion of that was for appraisals and we didn't have a funding source, so it was charged to the Commissioner's budget.

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OK, this is thank you, Lorena. This is good information to know because here I'm sitting looking at the numbers and saying, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. We didn't spend this this kind of money. I don't recall any of the commissioners going to different events and.

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trying to advocate for Knight County etc I mean there are few and far between in state out of state etc so thank you for that clarification with with some of these departments that there are augmentations adjustments increased by decreased by

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Um, did anybody go to the department heads, whether they're elected or appointed to get their input and to see if, if this is actually going to work for them in their area, or are we just going to do it and ask them to figure it out?

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Commissioner, this is for last year's expenditures. These are augments for what's already been spent in these departments. This isn't due to any adjustments for the 27 budget.

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You're basically making the budget equal the actuals.

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Keep it simple.

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One that's ending tomorrow.

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Yes, so hence the moving of the monies around. So once we get this taken care of, we'll be going into our next budget and hopefully won't have to move monies around. Because we're going to have a good pulse on the budget. Is that fair assessment?

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That would be the plan.

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Okay. And I'm bringing this up because. You know, when we say we're moving monies around and the concern is out there and I totally understand there's always a why. We owe it to ourselves and to the public to give a more detailed explanation as to why we're moving the monies around.

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But please go ahead through the chair, please go ahead, Zaina.

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So Commissioner, just to bring it up in one of our action items today is to talk about. the LATCF allocation, and also to talk about some of the cost-saving initiatives that we would like to work on or started working on for fiscal 27. So you're giving me a great segue into that next item.

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Thank you, Zina. It all ties in together.

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And Commissioner, we do have the finance manager for public works on the line when you're

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you. I'm ready. Thank you.

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Good morning, commissioners. This is Elizabeth Jordan for the record, J-O-R-D-A-N. And there was questions regarding the augmentation for the airport fund 10209. In the backup, if you look at, let me get you the page number for ease. As I find it, I will speak on it. So it's page 12, I'm sorry, page 15, if you're looking at the PDF. When this budget was created, it was assumed that the fund would begin the beginning of the year with $71,694. After the audit was completed, it was determined that actually the beginning fund balance was $166,066. With that being said, we're able to utilize the difference. that was not accounted for during the creation of the budget to augment the budget in itself and we can utilize that for in this particular case is for capital projects that are being done currently in the Tonopah and Beatty Airport and that's why we're augmenting so we're able to utilize those those beginning fund balance from fiscal year 25. It's that money is not coming from any other fund. It's just within the fund that was not accounted for at the beginning when the budget was created. And it's basically because budgets are typically created with assumptions of where the fund's going to end. So hopefully that answers that question. I also... I'm sorry if I may interject as well on the general fund only because I did help finance with some of those augmentations or not augmentations but moving of the funds also please keep in mind that some of these Augmentations to this department was also due to some of the wages, salaries, or benefits that were misappropriated or underappropriated, actually, correct, during the creation of fiscal year 26 budget. So just a little bit more information to help with that item as well.

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Thank you, Liz.

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you getting on the phone, and it is for those following along on page 12 under expenditures, that was the first page that you referred to and then went to another page as well. So thank you.

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All right, this time we're going to open public comment. Anybody in public would like to speak on this or ask questions, come on down.

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Marianne Hollis, H-O-L-L-I-S. I will unabashedly admit that my experience with in-depth budgets like this is limited to just my own checkbook. Having said that, when I listened to the comptroller list some of the departments, etc., I looked at agenda item number nine and my question was going to be, are some of those departments in the backup on this one also? I think you mentioned it might correlate further on down the line, but for someone like me, I'll admit that I'm not much beyond a checkbook balance, it gets confusing as you go through with the verbiage that these are called. But the bottom line says to me, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that we're still working on this year's budget and it hasn't been approved. And we will start next year's budget. Well, it's been promised or not really promised but said we'll be better set for next year. But you're going to start next year having to pay off the loan to settle this year's fiscal budget. So it's just chasing money, in my opinion, all over the place. And in my checkbook. I don't spend what I don't have, and I don't borrow knowing I can't pay it back. Just to comment. Thank you.

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Thank you. Calm down, sir.

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Stephen Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N. My understanding of this item is that you had a budget of a dollar. You spend 80 cents, but in order to satisfy the budget, you have to increase that expenditure by 20 cents the other way around. Okay. So this is, no money is actually moving. This is an accounting thing because NRS says you have to have a balanced budget by tomorrow.

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Is that close?

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Okay. Number, second thing is if the airport is not generating sufficient income to cover its own expenses, why are we maintaining county airports? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Pittman. Dwight, come on down.

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White, L-A-L-A-O-O-Y. I see Manhattan water here, $25,000. Was that decreased $25,000? I find it interesting that we would be funding Manhattan water $25,000 and we have seven. I see man out in water here, $25,000. Was that decreased $25,000? I find it interesting that we would be funding Manhattan water $25,000 and we have 7,000 zombie lots. And around Prump area, there doesn't seem to be any way the county can help with the water situation there. And I know we've lent money out to Gabs, I believe, for their water system. And the average income of Gabs is $82,000 a year for the people living up there. We don't seem to have a problem out of the county budget funding. Those water systems, but we seem to have a really hard problem finding a water solution for people that have zombie lots in and around Perron. That's all I have.

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Thank you, Dwight. Those water systems are owned by the county.

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Linda Clark, C-L-A-R-K. Well, people, now you know why we have a big financial problem in this county.

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Um, it's, I'm not blaming it again on the bookkeeper, the comp controller, or any of the treasurers, any of that of people. But why you people are supposed to be smart. Uh, we can't keep borrowing from Peter to pay Paul when Paul doesn't have any money either and we're going to owe him, oh, well, he had 20 cents left over. We're going to put that towards this. I, I don't understand the bookkeeping system here. Huh? You do? Oh, I'm glad you do, John. My husband was a corporate controller, and I'm telling you, I live on a tight budget, but no way would I ever get away with keeping books the way we do here in this community. And like again, I'm not blaming these people. I just don't understand how we can keep doing this and expect next year to be better. Thank you.

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Commissioner Jabbour, anybody up there for public comment?

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Anyone on the phone?

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The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Good morning. This is Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N, and I do have experience with small, medium, and some of the largest company financial statements in the country. What we're looking at today is this is a true up from the final approved budget to the revision to ensure that we are reporting from a budget perspective what's happening in our financials and be able to pass muster for a D-tax perspective. What is missing is, and I think Commissioner DeVore really hit this well in his opening comments, is that we have adjustments, and the questions he was asking is why, but I'd like to take it a step further beyond that. The why, the root cause, and then the corrective action. Those three really need to be looked at because if we fix it for budget, that's fine. But we also are going to have to deal with what's the actual for next year. You know, budgets are good. Budgets give you where you're going to try to hit, but you have to calibrate during the year to make sure you're going to be at that number if you're going to be beyond that. Today is June the 29th. Ideally, we're dealing with this well before today and really having that root cause, having the effect, we see the effect because that's what the revisions are, but then have the corrective action behind that. If we do that effectively, then this will take us to the next mark for next year. Thank you.

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Thank you. Anyone else on the phone?

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The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Aldo Cruz, D-E-L-A-C-R-U-Z. I just ask you guys, make sure you understand what you're approving here and not what the staff is telling you because the person before me just said.

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This should have all been done earlier not not now something's wrong. You need to take a look at it. Thank you

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Anyone else on the phone?

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I'm going to close public comment. Mr. Boskovich, do you have anything?

Voice Ohear it at 0:43:03

Adult chair, I understand what's going on and what the need is.

Voice Chear it at 0:43:05

Okay. I'm looking for a motion.

Voice Chear it at 0:43:26

Yes, Commissioner Braska.

Voice Ohear it at 0:43:27

I will. Are you making a motion on that?

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Excuse me. I'm

Voice Bhear it at 0:43:36

under... I didn't make the original motion. I thought you were going to make the motion.

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No, I was going to gladly second your motion if you were going to make one.

Voice Chear it at 0:43:52

Would somebody make a motion?

Voice Ohear it at 0:43:57

I will make a motion to approve as written.

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Adopt as written.

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There you go. In two more seconds. I have a motion and a second to adopt. All those in favor say aye.

Voice Bhear it at 0:44:12

Or as I.

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Aye. Motion passed 3-0.

Voice Ohear it at 0:44:17

And I apologize. I apologize, Commissioner. I didn't have it in front of me at that moment.

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Item 7, for possible action, discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt, or reject budget transfer of appropriations between functions within the Town of Pahrump General Fund, 25101.

Voice Bhear it at 0:44:46

Let's do this.

Voice Bhear it at 0:44:48

Good morning. How are you?

Voice Chear it at 0:44:49

Good, good. How are you?

Voice Bhear it at 0:44:50

Go right ahead.

Voice Chear it at 0:44:52

Jennifer Fanning, F-A-N-N-I-N-G, town finance manager. So before you today, we have a request to approve the budget transfer within the town of Pahrump general fund. This transfer is reallocating $250,000 to buildings and grounds and $300,000 to the animal shelter, funded by a corresponding reduction of $550,000 from the fire department. department budget. This is a budget neutral transfer within the general fund and does not require any additional appropriations. Staff from Buildings and Grounds was not able to make it today, so if you guys have questions on the B&G side, I can answer those as best as I can. And the animal shelter, Christy, is here to answer any questions regarding the operational needs for the transfer.

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Commissioner Jabor, do you have anything?

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Chair, is the DA present in front

Voice Dhear it at 0:45:53

Thank you. So, Mr. DA, we heard earlier about the commingling. And what was mentioned was animal shelter, and animal shelter is clearly here on this list under Pahrump, sitting as the town of Pahrump. And so are you satisfied that we move forward with this?

Voice Ehear it at 0:46:23

I'm not sure what your issue is.

Voice Dhear it at 0:46:26

I don't have

Voice Ehear it at 0:46:27

I wasn't here

Voice Ehear it at 0:46:28

at the beginning of the meeting, so I don't know what was said. Commingling of what?

Voice Dhear it at 0:46:33

Well, what was mentioned was animal shelters, the Nye County Animal Shelter, and here we have animal shelter listed here under Pahrump, and are we okay with moving forward and going further with this item?

Voice Ehear it at 0:46:56

I've not researched it. I don't know what the classifications are. I mean, these are not issues we should be raising in a meeting. These should have come to me before the meeting if there were questions about this.

Voice Fhear it at 0:47:07

Well, I apologize

Voice Ehear it at 0:47:08

So I don't know the answer to without looking at it.

Voice Fhear it at 0:47:11

about that, Mr. DA. It was mentioned this morning through public comment.

Voice Dhear it at 0:47:23

Well, there's going to be an issue that I need to look at. I don't know the answer off the top of my head. I can't give

Voice Dhear it at 0:47:28

you an answer sitting

Voice Bhear it at 0:47:29

not a trick question. I'm Yeah, just I wondering.

Voice Dhear it at 0:47:32

get that. I get that, but I'm not going to venture a guess without looking at the issue.

Voice Bhear it at 0:47:37

Thank you. Mr. Baskovich, anything?

Voice Ehear it at 0:47:47

I have nothing in writing in the Republic.

Voice Bhear it at 0:47:49

All right, I'm going to open public comment. Anybody in the public like to question or discuss anything on this item? Come on down. Christy, I'll get to you after this. Go ahead, Dwight.

Voice Fhear it at 0:48:07

Okay. Nobody's on the phone. Dwight Lally, L-L-Y. Mr. D.A., am I bringing him up to speed a little bit here? The Nye County Animal Shelter is a Nye County expense, and what they want to do is the town finance director wants to take town funding to fund a Nye County expense, which I believe is commingling funds. I don't believe it's proper or legal to do that. I've done my research on it. Nye County Board of Commissioners is responsible as a town board, as a fiduciary to protect the funds of Pahrump. Nye County is responsible, and they are the Commissioner of Nye County, for funding county operations. And so that's the position I'm taking. And well, I'll just see what other positions I take will depend upon the actions on this item. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 0:49:08

Anybody on the phone?

Voice Ghear it at 0:49:13

The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Hhear it at 0:49:18

Yes, Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. One of the concerns I had with this, apart from the concern about the shifting from county to town, is regarding page one. And that's the other page. In the 25101, we're buildings and grounds, so that's 220, and we're leaving in thousands. Animal shelters 270 and fires 490. When I look at the backup on the next page, I look at the building and grounds subtotal activity of 250, so it's not 220, it's 250 in the backup. And the subtotal activity under the fire is 550. and not 490. So that was part of my concern there with that. Can you tick and tie and make sure that number is correct for the 490 and not supposed to be 550, please?

Voice Bhear it at 0:50:17

Thank you, Tim. Linda, go ahead.

Voice Ihear it at 0:50:21

Linda Clark's LARK.

Voice Jhear it at 0:50:25

I'm a blonde, and I know I get picked on for being a blonde because we're all dumb, right? But I'm sorry, you know what's going on, Ron doesn't know what's going on, and Brian doesn't know what's going on, and I'm not blaming any of you for your positions or why you don't know anything. But this is confusing. Why are we having this hearing when no one's up to date on what's going on? Um, I did not read the backup on all this stuff. I didn't realize it was going to get this confusing, and especially for me, the blonde. Thank you.

Voice Khear it at 0:51:11

Marianne Hollis, H-O-L-L-I-S. I agree with the confusion and I've already admitted that I have limited experience in these things. However, when I look at the agenda under review and approval, legal review required, no, it's checked off. Am I not seeing that right? And what? So if it didn't come across your desk, Mr. Quincy, for review, I guess we can't really fault you for not knowing and able to comment. And I'll give just due when it's. duly justified. So if it wasn't passing your desk, you're scot-free for being held responsible to know about it, in my opinion. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 0:52:23

Anybody else, anyone in Tonopah on the phone?

Voice Ghear it at 0:52:29

There's no more colours on the phone.

Voice Bhear it at 0:52:31

Close public comment. Christie, do you want to come down? Let us know-I mean, I know why we're doing this, but let everyone else know why we're doing it.

Voice Lhear it at 0:52:42

So Christy Sickman, S-I-E-G-M-U-N-D, manager animal services. So I just wanted to give a little bit of clarity and I was up here to potentially answer any questions. Our per rump, while it is titled Nye County Animal Shelter, the animals that are in that building come from per rump.

Voice Mhear it at 0:52:59

They also, a small percentage, about 3%, 4% come from Amargosa and Crystal. Beatty and North go to our Nye County Animal Shelter in Tonopah, and that shelter is able to house all of the animals that come to them from the northern counties. I can't speak to the finance. I leave that up to people who are much smarter than I am, but I can say that statistically,

Voice Lhear it at 0:53:23

The challenges we have in animal services, it does centralize here in Pahrump. We have a cruelty case right now that we are at $125,000 and counting. We had in our town of Pahrump budget from last year an oversight where a payment for $110,000 wasn't budgeted. So when that payment hit, it hit against a budgeted dollar amount of zero. Our spay and neuters, they are much more expensive than they were before. So these are just really high level explanations of why this department is over.

Voice Nhear it at 0:54:03

But the one thing that I can say is that statistically, the challenges we face here in Pahrump at this shelter located here in Pahrump are Pahrump animals.

Voice Bhear it at 0:54:17

Thank you. Xenia, go ahead.

Voice Khear it at 0:54:20

Thank you. So I'd like to add to it. So we have Nye County. health services for animal services and then we also have a piece that is part of the town of Pahrump. In last year's in fiscal 26 budget there was a change and it was approved by the board of commissioners where the staff would be charged. portion to the county and a portion to the town. So that change, that budget process, was approved by the Board of Commissioners or actually the Board of Commissioners sitting as the town of Pahrump and it was also approved by the county. The issue with animal services right now is that we do have cases that are on the county side where we're incurring a lot of cost to feed these animals before the case, while the case is being decided in the court system. And those expenses are not budgeted for as well.

Voice Bhear it at 0:55:34

Right, and that's $150 some odd thousand dollars and climbing daily. So anybody else? Nobody, nobody, nobody. We're looking for a motion, guys?

Voice Ehear it at 0:55:53

Is there a motion

Voice Bhear it at 0:56:02

The motion was to adopt the motion on the second. All those in favor say aye.

Voice Ehear it at 0:56:08

Mr. Jabbar's aye.

Voice Ohear it at 0:56:09

Off with a tie.

Voice Bhear it at 0:56:10

Tony guy passes three to zero. Item number eight.

Voice Ehear it at 0:56:16

please, Chair. Five minutes, please, Chair.

Voice Bhear it at 0:56:20

Five minutes. Okay. Five minute break.

Voice Bhear it at 0:56:21

back here at 11.

Voice Bhear it at 0:56:28

Right, I'm going to reopen this meeting. We're two minutes past the five minutes that we gave it. So where were we? Number eight, I believe.

Voice Ahear it at 0:56:42

Item 8, for possible action, discussion and deliberation to adopt, amending adopt or reject Nye County Resolution 2026-11, Resolution to Augment and Amend the 2025-2026 budget of Nye County, State of Nevada. Funds are 10220 room tax in the amount of $24,999. 10236 Nye County Jail Fund in the amount of 1.2 million dollars, 10281 Senior Nutrition in the amount of 208 thousand dollars, and 10451 Bonds Proceeds Capital Fund in the amount of 199,485 dollars.

Voice Bhear it at 0:57:29

Thank you, I guess. Commissioners, any comments? Commissioner, did you bore anything?

Voice Chear it at 0:57:40

And at this time, thank you, Chair.

Voice Bhear it at 0:57:41

Okay, Commissioner Boskovich?

Voice Bhear it at 0:57:47

Okay, I'll give it back to Zena and tell us what we're doing, please.

Voice Ehear it at 0:57:54

So, we have to increase the room tax fund. The room tax fund houses the room tax revenue for the room tax, especially for the unincorporated towns, Gabs, Beatty. paramp and because there is some activity that is as of its As of April, we probably will be overspent in this fund by more than $25,000, but basically we've had to give money to the state for penalties and for their share of room tax. And this is a tax that's levied in the towns for... lodging. The jail fund we've overspent by 1.2 million dollars. We did not budget enough in the expenditure area. We did not have the ICE contract, which is a contributor to the activity of the jail fund being overspent. We don't have any revenue offset. The senior nutrition, I would like to defer to either Corinne or Jennifer, if you have any questions, I will. find see if we can get somebody on the phone and then the bond proceeds the reason why there's an additional payment there is because we had a final payment for Seagram's which is the company that has the solar panels where we finally signed off for the solar panels at the justice court

Voice Bhear it at 1:00:04

Raise the Republican comment on this item. If there is, please come forward.

Voice Fhear it at 1:00:13

Dwight Lilly, L-I-L-L-Y. I was wondering if you collected the $80,000 of room tax from Tonopah and why that wouldn't be applied against this. As I understand, they haven't paid $80,000 in room tax.

Voice Ghear it at 1:00:37

I do have a quick question, Linda Clark, CALARK. I just want to know, Zaina, why we had a penalty.

Voice Ehear it at 1:00:54

Marianne Hollis, HOLLS. Zaina, while you're... Figuring out your numbers there, I have a question. How much is the total amount in bonds that we owe? Total amount of bonds and how many lines are labeled room tax? There's got to be at least seven room tax. It's a fairgrounds room tax line, tourism room tax line. I'm just thinking off the top of my head and several others. To say room tax, I'm not sure which of those you took from. I know the fairgrounds are substantial. It's several million right now. But anyway, I won't digress. So hopefully you can answer those questions. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 1:01:44

Anybody on the phone?

Voice Bhear it at 1:01:49

Commissioner DeBoer, anybody in Tonopah?

Voice Bhear it at 1:01:55

I'll close public comment. Would you address the questions, please?

Voice Ehear it at 1:02:03

So I have to get back to you on the, how much we have in bonds. As far as the room tax account, this is the Nye County account that also houses the unincorporated towns, Pahrabs, Beatty. uh there's a couple of other ones so what happens since they don't have their own specific special revenue account it all goes into this account a special revenue account and as far as penalty so what happens is when a Lodging facility does not pay their room tax on time, they are levied a penalty and we need to give the state their portion of penalty that was received.

Voice Bhear it at 1:03:00

So we didn't really pay a penalty. We gave the state money that we owed them.

Voice Ehear it at 1:03:06

We're giving the state money that we collected as a penalty.

Voice Bhear it at 1:03:10

Great. Morning. Thank you. Any further discussion, board members, or can I get a motion?

Voice Ihear it at 1:03:31

I have nothing for you, Chair.

Voice Bhear it at 1:03:35

How about a motion?

Voice Fhear it at 1:03:43

I will make a motion to adopt as written for

Voice Bhear it at 1:03:48

Do I have a second?

Voice Bhear it at 1:03:52

A motion and a second. All those in favor say aye.

Voice Bhear it at 1:03:59

Aye. Kony guy. This is 3-0. Number nine.

Voice Ahear it at 1:04:08

Item nine for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding A, approve to reallocate LatCF funds to implement cost savings for the fiscal year 2027 budget and b, direct staff to implement cost saving measures to reduce general fund spending.

Voice Bhear it at 1:04:27

Zena, you're up again. It's my day. It's your day.

Voice Chear it at 1:04:32

Fast forward. Okay.

Voice Dhear it at 1:04:33

So when we went through on May 29 twenty seventh, I'm sorry, to do budget cuts, we had made a a, cost reduction for employee voluntary sever an in severance program or retirement program. And we said we would come back to the board with some better information. We had a budgeted we had budgeted $1,200,000 so that and that we would come back to, give an update and give not just an update on the employee program, but on the cost savings initiatives that we would like to work on for fiscal twenty seven. So I'd like to first start and talk about the LATCF fund and what money we're gonna need for cost savings. So if you look at your the backup, it would be item a. So and I have some updated numbers. We have a number of people that are have, contacted HR that would like to either retire early or leave the organization. And HR is working on an agreement with the individuals. We have set criteria where, the the salary and benefits would result in a savings as long as we do not refill those positions. As of right now, the employee reduction report program would save us $985,000 in salary and wages. In the original doc document. I think it says 874. Benefits, we would have a savings of 631,000. That is an update to what's in the document of $560,000. And as of right now, the cost of the buyout would be $900,000. Now the other so we're asking for, LATCF funds of 900,000. But also, if you look at item two on this the next page where during the budget meetings, we reduced salary wages and benefits for people that we knew were gonna be retiring. So we saved 500, I'm sorry, 625,000 in salary and benefits, but it would cost for the, to pay out in the LA, accrual balances $500,000. So we're asking 500,000 for payout of accruals and then 900,000 for the buyout program. So that's a total of $1,400,000.

Voice Dhear it at 1:08:04

So at the budget meeting, we also in order to have a balanced budget, we proposed and the commissioners agreed on reduction of service and supplies by 32%, which equated to $4,300,000. And if you look at the schedule that's that's in the documentation, we did not allocate the 32% to every single department because there are some departments that have, mandatory expenses that need to be supported by their budget. So Okay. Would you like me to stop right there, or would you like me to talk about the other savings programs that we would like to implement? I would like you to talk about everything before I give it to the commissioners to, comment on. Okay. I'm gonna go back to page the first page of the support item b. So the finance department is gonna work on some cost savings initiatives. The biggest one being having better controls over the payroll. So, at the twenty seventh May 27 meeting, when we talked about where we thought we were gonna stand at the end of fiscal twenty six, there was a recommendation to that all department heads were to approve overtime. So one of the action items that we're taking back is to look at overtime is being properly approved, that time is being properly approved at the end of each time period. We're also gonna be looking at other controls over the payroll to make sure that people are being taken off taken, off the payroll, put on the payroll, that, the expenditures are appropriate. And this would increase our internal controls, which can have a an effect on our audit fees at the end of the year because if the auditor can rely on our internal controls over 75% of our budget, then he has to do less test work.

Voice Bhear it at 1:10:37

What a unique idea.

Voice Dhear it at 1:10:40

So, the other area that we're looking to put controls into is to do a review in accounts payable, which would include looking at, when we charge through food, subscriptions, conferences to ensure that they comply with our policy with, proper procedures that we have in place. If, for example, if policy says that a person traveling has to get preapproval, and I'm not saying that this is the case, then we would look for the documentation to make sure that there's preapproval there. We're gonna look at open contracts, work with the departments to see if some of these contracts, can be closed out, if we can consolidate contracts, if we look at the spending for expenditures of, say, maintenance agreements. A lot of times, we have different locations with the same, system account, not an accounting system, but a a a system that, requires maintenance agreements, and they're done at different times of the year. We're gonna look to see if we can get better buying power on, expenditures. So that's another area that we're looking for, again, to compare policies and procedures to what we're actually doing and start documenting or looking to the departments on what changes we need to make in policy and procedures. And then the last item is to request that the finance managers come to the board of commissioners every month and give a status of their departmentals. And I'd like to add to this, It shouldn't only be the finance managers. I think the finance managers should come monthly. But for the departments that do not have a finance manager, I believe that they should come at least once a quarter or twice a, twice a year to give an update about their departmentals and how they are whether they're over budget, under budget, you know, give give an update to the commissioners.

Voice Bhear it at 1:13:10

I agree. And that's one thing we should be doing. I thought we used to do it, but whatever. What are we doing about purchasing or lack of I mean, they go out and they buy their own stuff and no one knows what they're buying. No one knows when we pay for it. So this goes back to policy.

Voice Dhear it at 1:13:27

Yep. And, and for putting down, looking at the policy, seeing where it needs to change, and then implementing the change in policy. So what we need to do is look at the actual expenditures and come up with, examples of what is occurring so that we can identify what the issues are and make corrective action from there.

Voice Bhear it at 1:13:52

Are you guys doing that or will you be doing that? We have already started accumulating

Voice Dhear it at 1:13:58

examples of items that we believe we need some policy change on. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner

Voice Ehear it at 1:14:09

Thank you, chair. Thank you, Zena. I do have some questions. On third page on the second page, under D2, you did touch on this as part of BioALP program. Under the sheriff, the first item listed, under the sheriff's number, so deputy? Is this two deputies? Do we have a count on this, please? And the reason I ask, Zena, is public safety has been a major concern. We everybody's been screaming. We've been doing what we can do to get through hoops to fund. And then we're going to possibly potentially buy one or two or three. I don't know. Do you know how many deputies this includes?

Voice Dhear it at 1:15:27

I'm looking up the information, but these are two people. I believe it's either two or three people. I'm gonna pull it up right now, that planned on retiring.

Voice Ahear it at 1:15:38

Commissioner, these are two lieutenants. Two lieutenants, okay. Not non patrol deputies.

Voice Ehear it at 1:15:47

Two lieutenants, okay. Now thank you, manager, for that info. Something that I did hear in Zena or Comptroller's presentation was that these would be through the buyouts that these would be positions that would not be replaced. Is that correct?

Voice Dhear it at 1:16:10

The only way to get savings is to not replace positions or to replace at a much lower current rate.

Voice Ehear it at 1:16:20

I see. Okay. Let me move on. Also in the presentation for policies and procedures throughout the county with the different management directors, department heads elected, etcetera, So how will we be able to measure, for example, if there was unauthorized overtime and that particular director, manager, etcetera, was signing off on that unauthorized overtime? What measure, what practice are we going to have in place to ensure that, that doesn't happen?

Voice Dhear it at 1:17:07

So we are not going to be able to review over time before payroll is processed. It will have to be reviewed after payroll is processed and, work with the department and bring it back to the board of commissioners as an action item.

Voice Ehear it at 1:17:29

I see. And will you be reviewing it? Who will be reviewing it, please, Zaina?

Voice Dhear it at 1:17:34

So I have reviewed one payroll already, and I am going to be assigning it to the peep a couple of people in my department that do the audits of payroll.

Voice Ehear it at 1:17:49

Okay. Thank you. And my next question is I don't see it, and maybe you can direct me to it. I know this is not a comprehensive item, report and backup, but unfunded state mandates. Do we have that anywhere listed on this?

Voice Dhear it at 1:18:17

No, sir. We did that'll not be something that we're looking at. I have a meeting with county manager to talk about assistant county manager to talk about all of our mandates, and that is something that we're looking for fiscal twenty seven. The mandates, what we're expected to be, paying for, and to see if we have sufficient funding, especially if they're a special revenue fund?

Voice Ehear it at 1:18:52

Yes. So we don't have sufficient funding. And this is one of the answers to the public of where is all the money going. And some of that monies that they're asking and questioning is through this unfunded state mandate program that it's not to see if we're expected that what we're expected, it's mandated. So we have to do this, right? And so I think that will be a great meeting, meetings, plural, that you have with the manager and assistant county manager to figure out what that number is so we can see it, the public can see it. And we take a stance and let legislation and the state know, hey, you know what? You're telling us this is what we have to do, and we're struggling as a county. We're not the only county in the state struggling. And yet you're forcing it down our throats. It's mandated. That's exactly what that means. It's not an expectation. It's a mandate. It's a must. We have to do it. And so we need to know what that number is so we can at least attempt to try to push back to say, you know what, it's real this is really a detriment to Nye County. So I look forward to seeing those numbers. Okay. Thank you, Zena, and thank you, chair. Yes, sir. Commissioner Boscovich.

Voice Fhear it at 1:20:34

Just very briefly. Thank you, chair. Very briefly, these buyouts are a bit heavy on the front end, but the annual savings is where you see the real savings down the road. And I also want to remind you that when we had the ICE contract, there were 29 new sheriff's department personnel brought in to handle that ICE contract. And when that contract went away, none of those deputies did or none of those personnel did. So we lost all of the revenue from the ICE but kept all of the expenses from the from the department. And I know that does not make me real popular with the sheriff's department, but the facts are what they are. That's all I have. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 1:21:24

Yeah. The problem I have with buyouts is you take a bunch of cash and you give it to people, and you don't amortize it or you can. But you don't amortize it over the year where you'd be paying them. So so chunk of cash out of the checkbook.

Voice Dhear it at 1:21:44

I do have one other comment. Funds, I believe.

Voice Bhear it at 1:21:48

What was that, sir?

Voice Fhear it at 1:21:51

I believe it is latch funds that are being used for these buyouts. It's still money in the bank that I don't have now. Right. I don't care where you put it. But it can only be used for certain things, I believe. Zeta? I think right. Go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. So we're asking to allocate

Voice Dhear it at 1:22:08

right now, we have $1,400,000 worth of, expenditures that would result in savings. We still need more savings. We do not have enough. And and that is with cutting service and supplies with, a lot of these expenditures that and I do understand a lot some of these departments have reached out to me, and they said that they have contractual obligations. And with the budget that they were given with the cuts, they're not gonna be able to make those obligations. So I am keeping a list of those departments so that we can go back once we can recognize additional savings and give back or come back to the board and give the board a recommendation on where we need to add additional expenditure budget expenditure savings.

Voice Bhear it at 1:23:16

Okay. Thank you.

Voice Ehear it at 1:23:19

Thank you, Zaina, for explaining that because this will probably well, not probably, this is going to deplete almost deplete the latch funding, what we have left, if we were to move forward with this. And I understand the savings in the long run, but right now, this is all we have left in the Ledge Fund.

Voice Bhear it at 1:23:59

That was our emergency fund. Yes.

Voice Bhear it at 1:24:09

Go ahead. Commissioner, I

Voice Ahear it at 1:24:11

was just going to say that the latch funds that we're talking about, you're more or less investing them in the county to save long term savings. I mean you've got a savings of over $1,600,000 That's general fund. That's an expenditure. Yes, I agree the safety net of the LatCF funds, but that's a one time thing. We're talking about investing this latch funds for long term savings of 1,600,000 to start just in wages.

Voice Bhear it at 1:24:51

And I get that. But, again, there's no I'm I'm not saying we shouldn't be doing that. I'm just saying that your cash reserves are gonna be going down by the amount of money you give to these people to help them retire. And I don't get that money back except a little bit over time because I'm not paying them salary. But LACCF was our emergency funding. When we started this a year ago, we had, what, $5,000,000 in there, something like that. And now it's down to zero. So if the wall falls down over here, do I have the cash to fix it? Maybe not.

Voice Ahear it at 1:25:29

Well, my my opinion, I agree. It's nice that it's been there. But having that safety net lets us kick the can from living within our means. My opinion is we need to get rid of that LATCF money so we quit remembering it's there, and we live within our means and figure out how to do it. That would make another commissioner very happy.

Voice Ehear it at 1:25:53

All right. So Yeah. Through the chair. Through the chair before you move forward. So so I understand the concept. I see the numbers of the long term savings. However, I was answered with they would the positions would be filled but not at the same rate, okay? So the numbers are skewed. The long term savings is a number for this. It does not include the number for the replacement of any of the positions that are being bought out because they will be replaced but not at the same pay rate.

Voice Ahear it at 1:26:37

Not necessarily Where is that number? Not necessarily, Commissioner. Go ahead. With these buyouts, those commissions, those positions are being defunded. To refill any of those positions, it's going to have to come back before the board. But if you can take two lieutenants, which the sheriff, the one time I've had a conversation with them, agreed, he knew these two were retiring and wanted to use those savings, if any savings, for patrol deputies. And if you could hire two and a half patrol deputies, which we've had almost on every single agenda over the last three months of a way to try to hire more deputies, that's what we're talking about. If you could take two lieutenants that aren't necessary to my knowledge today because some of those were brought on by the ICE contract and I hire two and a half patrol deputies with that money, it's still a savings.

Voice Fhear it at 1:27:44

May I interject?

Voice Bhear it at 1:27:47

Sure. Go ahead. Of course.

Voice Fhear it at 1:27:50

Thank you. I'll be very brief. I want I think the public needs to know without divulging any sensitive information that sometimes these lieutenant packages could be upwards of close to 300,000 a year, just FYI. And a deputy on the street is nowhere near that in the beginning. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 1:28:19

Thank you. Did I do public comment? Yes.

Voice Ghear it at 1:28:24

No? Okay. Before before excuse me, chair. Go ahead. Before public comment, I I would like to jump in here. Oh, it's you. Right. I'm really concerned about what's happening, and particularly, I'm going to use my budget. Service supplies was not cut 32%. Mine was cut 60%, all right? So I don't know why mine is cut 60%. And the reality of it is, is that, yes, I've got certain contracts that I have to pay. With the contracts with my proposed budget, I have $3,800 in services and supplies, which is going to eliminate my ability to hire witnesses, to bring in witnesses for trials. Experts, I can't function with 3,800 a year and do my job. And how these numbers came about is appalling to me, that we weren't discussed. Nothing was brought to us. Nothing was came forward to us. Because, again, it's it's it's mind blowing to me that we're just kind of throwing numbers out here without actually looking at what the consequences are and coming to the departments and actually sitting down. And all of sudden we just get these numbers and that I'm supposed to live with this. I mean, I've got a trial coming up. Why would Let me look you know, I have a trial coming up would his budget be cut 60%? I don't know. I don't know, commissioner. And the bigger problem is I have two trials on the books already. One of them is to deal with the horrendous case we had on Amargosa where these dogs were eating each other. We've got multiple experts that we're bringing in for this trial. I can't do that trial. I cannot do that trial because I have no funds to do that trial. I've got another multiple fatality case, DUIs causing death coming up. Can't do that trial because my budget will already be depleted and I don't have enough money to actually hire or to bring in the witnesses and to bring in the experts that I need on these trials. This has got to be seriously looked at. You know, again, it's one thing that, you know, you can talk all these niceties, but I cannot do my job. And I'm part of public safety.

Voice Dhear it at 1:30:52

I'd like to Yes. I'd like to say something about this. The budget process is not the best. We had to sit here on May 27 and come up with cuts that was last minute. We didn't have a chance to go to the departments. And I agree with the DA that the department should be spoken to, which is one of the action items that I'm taking back as we need to start our budget process much earlier so that there is more engagement between the the budget area and finance with the departments and then also the board of commissioners so that they can see where the budget lies in the next year before we go and submit a tentative budget to DTACs?

Voice Bhear it at 1:31:52

Thank you. Chair?

Voice Ehear it at 1:31:56

We'd Before you open public comment, please. Thank you. So one of the first questions I asked was, were the department heads consulted on these changes, on these augmentations, on their budget cuts, on these percentages, and will it work for them? Did they buy into this? Can they make it work? And obviously, we were just told no, they were not consulted. And I understand that it was crunch time and it hit us and you know, but did it really just hit us? We've seen the snowball effect, and now we're trying to we're floundering and trying to figure things out on the backs of these different departments. I mean, just take the DA, for example. We no pun intended, Mr. DA, we're handcuffing you as the chief law enforcement officer of the county if we were to move forward with this when in the past, most recent meetings, we've been unhandcuffing the sheriff's office, for example, to give them more deputies to be on the streets for public safety, for comfort, for the people of the county to realize that, look, we're doing the best we can with what we have and the means that we have, and we're authorizing more deputies to be out there for safety reasons, for protection reasons. And now we're going to handcuff you as an example. And so you're just one of many, sir. I'm not discounting what you said. I don't disagree with you. And I'm going to be part of the voice for the other department heads that have not called in, that have not come forward publicly. We'll say publicly they haven't come forward, but they have come forward with major concerns. And again, we're telling them, if we were to move forward with this, go ahead and just figure it out. Now we're dumping it on you to figure it out. Well, you've already figured it out, sir, that you cannot function. We've handcuffed you, and it's ineffective, and this is not the way to go. And I'll stop there, Chair, and allow you to open go ahead, please, open public comment. Thank you. So before,

Voice Dhear it at 1:34:44

we move forward, I just wanna remind the board of commissioners that finance brought forward a tentative budget, April 7, I believe it was, And DTAX denied it because it had excess funding. It had a a deficit fund balance, and they told us we are not allowed to to submit a budget that has more over $13,000,000 more in expenditures than the revenue that we're collecting. And that's why we ended up in the position we were in this year when we had to cut the budget May 27.

Voice Fhear it at 1:35:30

And, Tom Torres, how long has this snowball been building and building and building? I mean, how many years are we talking that this A lot. Has been going on?

Voice Ahear it at 1:35:45

Many, many years. Several years. Six years. Seven years. Yep. But I'd also like to add one thing. The service and supplies budget has already been adopted by this board. We're not doing anything that's changing that right now, commissioner Jabbour. As far as the how some departments ended up with 60%, some ended up with 20%. I don't know. I know it was an overall budget cut of 32% like the comptroller said, and and this I do support. I think that there was a lot of complacency with a lot of contracts that this county has entered into through many departments. Again, say we've got four or six pages, I can't remember, of contracts that we are accounting for in this county right now and if nothing else comes out of this, even for the DA, I completely understand his position. I, this is going to force departments to take a good look at what their expenditures are contract wise. Some may be completely necessary, like I believe the DA. I saw an email from them the other day. But when there's adjustments needed, we're going to take a look at that. If it went too lean in the department, we're giving them the opportunity to come back and make the case to justify why it needs to be adjusted. But if they can't do that, it's being cut And I think this exercise is way, way overdue.

Voice Ehear it at 1:37:27

Okay. Thank you, Manager, for that, So through the what's clearly on here, for example, is services and supplies. And when services and supplies was first presented to us, I clearly asked, well, what does that mean? What categories are we talking about? Because, for example, we won't be able to adjust anything to do with insurances. Insurances continue to go up. Very, very rarely do they go down. And I wanted to see what are we talking about exactly, okay? And not a trick question, but there was no preparation to give me the different categories at that time. So I'll go back to this 32%, yes, that the Board on May 27, we collectively approved this reduction. But I clearly heard the district attorney to say that his area was hit with a 60% reduction. So it's nice to go through the practice, of course, but we have to be realistic and we have to be fair with these different departments in order for them to be effective and continue operations. We can't just throw a number out to satisfy DTACs. We have to be absolutely realistic. How can we how could we have come up with a 60% reduction with the DA's office? And I thank you, DA, and I keep bringing you up because you're the one who stepped forward with this information how could we have given him a 60% reduction expecting him to function properly and effectively by losing that much in his budget.

Voice Bhear it at 1:39:34

Where is the DA on the list? Because I see the list I have where it says DA and channel support, that's a 32% cut. $60,000, not 60%.

Voice Ahear it at 1:39:45

Yeah. I was gonna say it's not 60%. It is more around 30 something percent. But even so, if he was one of the departments that was actually operating that lien on his service and supplies, that's something we need to look at. There's other departments I do believe have fluff. There were several of the departments that put in for increases in service and supplies. Those contributed also to the 32% reduction overall. Those increases weren't approved, but they were accounted for in a reduction of 32%.

Voice Ghear it at 1:40:32

Let me just clarify. The number that's more disturbing to me is what I'm left with, is $3,800 Right? That's what's left to me. And that doesn't even cover talking about we're talking about we're numbers. Talking about It's just my service and supplies.

Voice Bhear it at 1:40:52

Approved service and supplies on this list, which is DA and child support, is a $127,620.

Voice Ghear it at 1:40:59

Child support is completely different. That's one of the problems with what you're doing here. Child support is completely different. Plus, the other thing is child support is actually funded by the state. But I don't see DA on this list except for DA and child They they put those numbers together. But the numbers we're looking at, I've got 3,800 left in my service and supplies in the DA side of my budget. Not the child support, because child support's entirely different, but I have $3,800 left. That's all I have left to spend. I can't even cover normal expenses. I have attorneys that have to go to Beatty and Tonopah weekly, travel.

Voice Bhear it at 1:41:37

What am I missing?

Voice Fhear it at 1:41:41

So I through the chair, I have knowledge of the TA's office, as you know. I mean, I have a kid who works there. They are severely understaffed in relation to the public defenders in their numbers versus the DA's numbers. I know that's kind of a separate issue, but it's kind of all going to the same thing. And I agree with Commissioner Gabor, and I disagree also because we do have to provide the tax a balanced budget, and how we get there is the problem. I will tell you this. I have had a sitting commissioner tell me to my face that that they want us to go on fiscal watch because it benefits them politically. And I think that is disgusting, and I don't want to be there, and I don't wanna go there. I think the steps we're taking are trying to cure a eight to ten year old problem that's just been building and building and building, and nobody likes the pain that we're in right now. But these four pages of contracts that we're in, the departments just sign annually and spend all of this money because nobody thinks there's ever an end to the supply, are absolutely ridiculous and need to be cut. And I know the manager and assistant manager and Zena are going through them, and they ought to get get going. Sharpen that pencil. That's all I've got. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 1:43:18

I still don't understand the DH.

Voice Bhear it at 1:43:35

sheriff, you had something before I open public comment?

Voice Hhear it at 1:43:38

Yeah. I just wanna make sure that I jump on this bandwagon, and I'm I'm very, on Coonsy's side here. Our service and supplies budget for our jail was 300 and something thousand dollars. And just our medical contract, which is a state or federal mandated contract, is over $1,000,000 How are we going to pay that? I understand that we don't have any money. I understand that we are short income. But how are we expected to give our medical services to our inmates that is a requirement without having enough money to do it? And it doesn't even pay for our food contract. That's another thing that we're federally mandated. We have to feed them. Where we're going to get it, I don't know. We're already going to Raley's up in Tonopah and buying hungry man dinners for what inmates are up there. Very few. Very few. Yeah. It's very few and very infrequent, I will say. But, I mean, we're doing everything that we can, but when we don't have the money to pay the things that we are contractually obligated to, how do we have the money for paper or rubber gloves for our deputies or toilet paper for our inmates and deputies and visitors in our front office and those kind of things. I mean, I I I don't have a solution here, Brett. I don't.

Voice Ahear it at 1:45:17

Well, solution is have your finance manager get with this comptroller right here and go through all your expenses for the jail. Have we even looked at the expenses of the jail? The jail's way over budget. You see 1,200,000 right here. It's always been over budget. You keep Well, it have to? Is is that do we be complacent or do we take a quick look? No. We do look every day. Shower through it and find out

Voice Hhear it at 1:45:46

if there's any way to I'm not going to a post meeting in August up in Carson City because I can't pay for the fuel to get there.

Voice Ahear it at 1:45:54

Right. This is gonna So that's what we're doing. Analyzing that budget. Right? But when we're already $700,000

Voice Hhear it at 1:46:01

in the hole for one contract and we've got multiple other contracts and we're already $707,100,000

Voice Ahear it at 1:46:08

in the hole? Because we Your numbers you're using are misleading.

Voice Ihear it at 1:46:13

Chair, we're having technical difficulties. I think we need to take a break for five minutes.

Voice Bhear it at 1:46:19

Be back at 11:58.

Voice Hhear it at 1:46:25

Which we come in under.

Voice Bhear it at 1:46:46

Alright, everybody. Took a while. Ron, are you with us?

Voice Ehear it at 1:46:55

Enjoy your lunch.

Voice Fhear it at 1:46:57

I'm sorry, sir. I don't hear you or see you at all. I'm kidding. Yes. I'm here.

Voice Bhear it at 1:47:05

Alright. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to reconvene. Woodenye County Board of County Commissioners meeting for 06/29/2026. We are on item number Where were we, controller? I think it was we leave it with you? Or are we I know we're on nine.

Voice Ehear it at 1:47:32

The sheriff was actually speaking. The sheriff was speaking.

Voice Bhear it at 1:47:36

Are you done? He's done. K. I think you just need public comment. Public comment. Gonna open public comment on item number nine. You have public comment. Please come on up to the mic.

Voice Jhear it at 1:47:54

Maryann Hollis, h o l l I s. Without a doubt, this has been an eye opening expose, and it it just can be brought down to one statement. You're a dollar short and a day late. This should have happened a long time ago. And for anyone to ask how we got to this point and you either sat up there or sat down here or in any other commission, take a look in the mirror because that's how it happened. Didn't happen for anything that we did out here. Four four year terms for one, eight years for another, and you wonder how it got to this point. You didn't know the word no. You skated by through a couple of, fiscal watches, and you didn't learn anything. One thing I hope is that someone makes the motion to direct either staff or the controller directly to have it in the form of a motion that she is given the power to initiate all those cost saving measures. Otherwise, it's just words on paper. There has to be some teeth in what she said. Was it six a b c d and c and whatever. And what is most disturbing to me is this county is in real trouble because it went through $12,000,000 in the grant in two years. 12,000,000 in two years. And the last little bit of change, the 1,400,000, if I understand correctly, the controller wants to out of the remaining balance of 1.7. So where are you gonna get another cushion of $12,000,000 when you've gotta start the year out paying off the loan to settle the budget. Don't don't ask the question, please. How did we get to this point? I think, Linda has said it best. Just say no. And you're gonna have to say no from here on in, because we're we're in trouble and and starting to move funds around. That's fine. But this is not gonna be funds to move around because grants are drying up, period. And this major one of 12,000,000 is bankrupt now. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 1:50:42

Thank you. Next.

Voice Khear it at 1:50:50

Whoops. White Lily, l I l l y. I wanna thank Zena for the hard work she'd done, putting all the bandages that are ripped off under the table. I guess you'd have to say it. But I just I'm appalled that it's taken five what Wagner said, just been going on since COVID. I think that was in 2021, so five years of mismanagement. Yet we have managers. We have department heads, but we've been mismanaged for five years. So I don't know what to think about that. I've got my district attorney over here. They can't even buy pencils and erasers trying to run a apartment. Sheriff departments buying happy meals at the grocery store to feed the prisoners down here. We're probably gonna end up with some federal lawsuits over that from there in whatever they are. But I don't know. At at least we know where we're at. I guess that's what you could say. Bruce Dubajer, I applaud him because he always seems to come up with the right question. But I don't have an answer for you guys, but I I I have to agree with Mary Anne that I just don't know what you're gonna do. I know what I would do. I would be replacing people. That's what I do. You know, because when somebody mismanage the situation this bad, why would you trust that it would get better without putting other people in place? We need new management, new department heads, and a new direction. And Zena is who I would put in charge. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 1:52:25

Thank you. Hi, Linda.

Voice Chear it at 1:52:32

Linda Clark, c l a r k. Well,

Voice Chear it at 1:52:43

feel sorry for some of the people that work in this community, especially our board members. Not this board up here. You guys got your own problems and you made the problems and we're half the force to be suffered with them. And you never listened to us. Yes. I've said no for many years now, But that didn't work either. So you all think you're smarter than your constituents and we know you're not. So what I wanna suggest, since we're probably gonna have to get a whole new crew, I understand that Warner Brothers has a whole crew from Looney Tunes that would take the positions and probably charges half amount of money and probably do a better job. Especially what's the guy with the gun? He's gonna bear a guard. And and Daffy, he's always got a brain. He he he knows what to do. And I think that you guys need to rethink a lot of stuff. But don't stretch your brains anymore than they've already been stretched because they know they don't work. Please, whatever you do, quit, please. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 1:54:06

Thank you, missus Clark, c l a r k. Is there anyone on the phone?

Voice Ihear it at 1:54:16

The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Lhear it at 1:54:21

Yes. Eric Hall, h a l l. I think the biggest thing I see here is, of course, there's there's absolutely some poor planning when it comes to this. I think there just needs to be better paperwork out there to show exactly where these funds are going or where these funds are taken, to have the situation of the DA and the child support on one thing. And if the DA is saying that there is more money being taken from his compared like, we need to have proof of that. Also, I agree with commissioner Jabbour, the situation of if we're rehiring these people even at a lower level, like we've taken the sheriff's office for instance, you got two lieutenants that are wanting to take out this buyout. So you can get two deputies per lieutenant's salary, but you're still paying out that salary no matter what because they're adding people still into it. So you're not really saving money. So we need to have the proper transparency out there to show where we're exactly saving money from these buyouts compared to what we're rehiring for those important roles that have to be hired out there for and actually show what the actual dividend is in between. And and I gotta say one thing in regards to the sheriff's office that it absolutely god awful is your financial manager for the sheriff's office has another job in in in Las Vegas, and it's collecting a paycheck from Nye County of over a 100,000 a year. And she comes in one night a week to look at stuff, and she has an assistant that sits in the office and does absolutely nothing. And it's been like that for five years, and you guys are still letting it go on because the sheriff doesn't know how to be transparent with the board to show exactly what's going on. That's all I got to say.

Voice Bhear it at 1:56:16

Thank you, mister Hall. Anybody else on the phone?

Voice Ihear it at 1:56:19

No, chair. Oh, wait. There was a hand raised right as you I said it. Done?

Voice Ihear it at 1:56:27

The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 1:56:31

Hi. This is Elizabeth Even. Last name, e v e n. I just wanted to make two correct two statements that were said earlier. The district attorney's f y twenty seven total service and supply budget is actually 100,370. The sheriff, his budget for f y twenty seven for service and supplies, out of the general fund is $849,500. That is not including the jail. That's just for the budget out of the general fund. The jail service and supply budget was cut down. Yes. It is $335,882 with a $6,600,000 transfer from the general fund, which will further strain the general fund. So I just wanted to give a little clarification on that.

Voice Bhear it at 1:57:35

Thank you very much. Thank you. Anybody else? No, chair. I'm gonna close public comment. Commissioner, do you have anything more? If not, we're taking a motion. Crickets.

Voice Fhear it at 1:58:01

My only comment is this. This mister Hall person who just spoke, I'm gonna need clarification on this. If the sheriff's department has a financial analyst with another job, and we're paying full time pay for this person who's not doing full time work. What the hell is going on with that? That's all I have.

Voice Bhear it at 1:58:31

Off the off the agenda. Please may someone make a motion.

Voice Dhear it at 1:58:41

Commissioner Or not? Would you like me to give the items to have a motion on? Sure. So first, we, we had requested to assign latch funds for the, early employee buyout program of $1,700,000 or any other item that the commissioners designate. Right now, we have early buyout programs that need to be at least 900,000 in early buyout and 500,000 for, payment of accrued balances.

Voice Bhear it at 1:59:19

That's one item. That's the first item. Could I have a motion on that?

Voice Ghear it at 1:59:25

Does that include, adding some money to my budget? Stated.

Voice Bhear it at 1:59:32

What were you gonna say, commissioner?

Voice Ghear it at 1:59:35

Before before you make the motion stated. If I could.

Voice Chear it at 1:59:38

Go ahead, Brian. Yeah. Just wanted to one of the discussions we've had was given how my budget has been cut to the point where I can't really do anything. I was I was hoping that I could get some money from this fund to to come to my budget so I can actually perform my duties.

Voice Fhear it at 1:59:58

How do we get him that? Is there is there money in latch left for that? And this is separate from the fact that he needs more freaking prosecutors. Separate issue I know.

Voice Ahear it at 2:00:11

I don't know if we can do that under mister Jones. I one thing I wanna clarify, though. What your budget was set at was what you had actually spent this year.

Voice Ghear it at 2:00:21

That's not what I have in the that's not what I have to spend. You're dead wrong on that.

Voice Ahear it at 2:00:28

My budget was cut from last year. It was cut from last year, but you didn't spend your whole budget last year. So it was cut down to what you had spent, basically. But again, once we get all this dust to settle and departments come to the comptroller and show what's actually needed if you're truly gonna be short, then we can try to fix it at that point. That's nice. But why don't we do this ahead of time? Why do we Why why didn't you read the budget that was approved by these folks? Those numbers were in there.

Voice Chear it at 2:01:10

A little bit of communication would be helpful. Exactly.

Voice Bhear it at 2:01:13

It goes two ways. We're getting Yeah. We're getting a little bit

Voice Fhear it at 2:01:17

track here, guys. See if we can get if we can get the DA the damn funds he needs and continue on with this freaking item as planned, but get him the shit he needs after. Yes. You could always come back. In addition to the other freaking prosecutors he needs, they have five. We're at, what, 12 public defenders now?

Voice Bhear it at 2:02:00

I think we're getting a little off the agenda item.

Voice Fhear it at 2:02:07

My motion stands as I stated it, and I need a follow-up after that Then need a second. To figure out how to get him what he needs. Then need a second.

Voice Fhear it at 2:02:33

Alright. Well, I tried.

Voice Bhear it at 2:02:36

I I will second it. I'm not supposed to, but I'll second it just so we can get a vote. All those in favor, say aye.

Voice Ehear it at 2:02:50

Opposed? 4 is nay.

Voice Bhear it at 2:02:52

4 is nay. 32 doesn't make it, does it? 21. 2. It's it's still not enough. 21, sir. This what? Sorry. 32 what? What do you say, Ron?

Voice Fhear it at 2:03:16

I I it it's 21

Voice Fhear it at 2:03:20

Why would that not carry?

Voice Ghear it at 2:03:24

We need we need a full quorum of the board. Yeah. Not the not the not the people present. It has to be a full quorum of the board. Right.

Voice Fhear it at 2:03:33

Then why are we doing this item?

Voice Bhear it at 2:03:39

When everyone agrees and it's a three zero vote, you have a quorum of the board. When you don't we have a two one. You don't have a quorum of the board, which is seven.

Voice Fhear it at 2:03:53

Okay. Then then why are we hearing this item without at least one more board member?

Voice Bhear it at 2:04:04

Why are we doing the whole thing without one more board member?

Voice Nhear it at 2:04:08

I completely agree. I was told Bain was gonna be here on the phone. No. He's not. And he has not been. I knew I knew Strickland was gone. That's why I wasted my day doing this when we can't even do anything.

Voice Ohear it at 2:04:30

I don't know. That was a fail. Next item.

Voice Phear it at 2:04:37

So the item that failed was using LATCF fund for the DA or for employee early retirementbuyout program? That one. Okay. The next item, direct staff for cost saving initiatives and report to the Board of County Commissioners.

Voice Ohear it at 2:05:06

Do I have a motion on that one?

Voice Nhear it at 2:05:13

I'll give you your motion on that one as stated.

Voice Ohear it at 2:05:19

I have a motion. Do I have a second?

Voice Qhear it at 2:05:23

Can you repeat that, please, Zena?

Voice Phear it at 2:05:26

Yes, sir. Direct staff for cost saving initiatives and report to the board of commissioners. It would be

Voice Qhear it at 2:05:35

item b, a, b, c, and d.

Voice Ohear it at 2:05:47

In other words, it's directing staff to come up with and follow the cost cost saving initiatives that the controller has identified. Right? Correct. Thank you. One of us gets it. Do I have a second or not?

Voice Qhear it at 2:06:08

Well, she included a, b, c, and d. Yes. She did. And a just failed. I did item b. A

Voice Phear it at 2:06:23

small a, small b, small c, small d.

Voice Ohear it at 2:06:30

Got it. Do it. Second? I'll second. K. I have a motion and a second. All in favor, aye.

Voice Ohear it at 2:06:41

Or a zay. Koenig aye. That one passes. Back to you.

Voice Phear it at 2:06:48

Direct finance managers to report to the board of county commissioners monthly.

Voice Ohear it at 2:06:55

Do I have a motion? Motion as stated. Second? Do I have a second? Four seconds. Motion not a second. All in favor, aye.

Voice Ohear it at 2:07:07

Or aye. Closing aye. That passes. That leaves us with One more. One more. Go ahead.

Voice Phear it at 2:07:18

Direct department heads to report that do not have finance managers to report at least quarterly their, month departmental.

Voice Rhear it at 2:07:28

Motion as stated.

Voice Ohear it at 2:07:35

All in favor, say aye.

Voice Ohear it at 2:07:39

Or Zay? Konig Zay, that passes. That it? K. So the biggie failed. So that's gonna have to come back or something. And while we're doing the or something or rewriting or whatever we're gonna do to it, let's include the DA in the discussion so we do it all at once instead of trying to do something here that Yes. I don't think is in the agenda. We don't need this for the state. Agreed.

Voice Phear it at 2:08:12

We do need it for the state or not? I'm sorry. Say that again? Do we need this particular item one that failed for the state to report or not? We need to come back to the board of commissioners with a cost savings plan. This plan failed, so we need to come back to another one. I got it.

Voice Ohear it at 2:08:31

Alright. Item 10.

Voice Ahear it at 2:08:36

Item 10 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to A, discuss response number 2020 Six-four Homestead Road and SR 160 Roadway improvements B, let the contract without further bidding in accordance with NRS 338.143. C, fund from ten thousand two hundred and five Roads or D, provide direction to staff on how to proceed with the project.

Voice Bhear it at 2:09:07

Thank you, commissioners. Cody McKee for the record, MCKEE. And as stated, we did not receive any bids for this project, so we are seeking direction to move forward to either, a, contact contractors and request proposals or b, revise scope and go back out to bid, whatever you guys would have us do.

Voice Chear it at 2:09:32

Board, anyone have any ideas? Through the chair? Yes.

Voice Dhear it at 2:09:37

Through the chair. I'm sorry. I just have a quick question for Cody. Is it typical that we get no bids?

Voice Ehear it at 2:09:45

Tom Boling, b o l l I n g for the record. Lately, yes. We have been getting a lot of non bid items. But also in this package is the retiming for all of the signal lights in Pahrump. So that's why we're really pushing to get this going so that we can get those those signal lights retimed.

Voice Dhear it at 2:10:06

Delta, thank you.

Voice Chear it at 2:10:15

But that's not that's not on here.

Voice Bhear it at 2:10:20

It doesn't mention timing signal lights. So the the end result of the project after it's constructed, they do get retimed, by the engineering, firm that we have designing the project. So that's what happens before it actually goes back into service. So we're finally gonna fix the three second? Yes. So we did have a meeting with emergency services, both the sheriff and the fire chief. And we received their comments and those were taken into account with the new timing that's been developed. Okay.

Voice Chear it at 2:10:53

Alright. I'm gonna open public comment. Anybody would like to speak, come on up.

Voice Dhear it at 2:11:02

Steven Pittman, p I t m a n. On about page 35 of the background of this whole mess is a diagram of 160 and Homestead Road. Looks like this, commissioner. K. So my my big concern is in the in the description of work, what they wanna do is they wanna have two left hand turn lanes from Homestead turning left onto 160. K? Right now, there's not enough real estate now that the kingdom gas station and pizza place has been completed. The traffic flow in that intersection to get in and out of Maverick or the kingdom gas station is, is very poor and very dangerous. One thought about a traffic circle, the chief sorry, the sheriff told me something that I had not considered before, and that traffic circles just make less serious accidents, which is an interesting way to think about it. I come down Winery Road and turn right onto, 160 on red when it's clear. However, and I've written to DOT twice about this, too many people leaving Homestead turning left onto 160 turn into the number two lane when the rules say you're supposed to turn into the number one lane. I've asked them to put those raised dots there to help guide people into the correct lane. But now that this has come up, it appears as though that whole thing will be fixed once this contract is let. It will be interesting to see how they're going to put two tons of fertilizer in one ton truck without cutting the brand new construction of the Kingdom gas station and taking out a piece of Maverick. You can't get into maverick easily anymore. You can't get into or get out of the kingdom gas station anymore. If you are in that area, try to maneuver through that area, and you'll find it it is awkward and dangerous.

Voice Chear it at 2:13:24

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Anyone on the phone?

Voice Fhear it at 2:13:34

Yes. Dwight Lilly, l I l l y. When that construction project for that new Conoco station was going on, I contacted commissioner Boscovich about this. And I've taken pictures standing in the Maverick over and couldn't figure out how you guys are gonna make this work, and it's totally goofed it up. Now with a two proposing two left left hand left hand turn lanes, the people in this town, sadly, if you go into the roundabouts, are incapable of staying in their own lane. And when you see people making a left hand turn at Homestead now, they're going over into the right hand lane halfway. So I think this is a dangerous situation. Not that it's impossible, it's just that I don't believe the demographics of the population or the number of senior citizens we have here, roundabouts have not been a good idea, and now this is not going to be a good idea. So if you want to create a safety problem, accidents, so forth, this is a good way to do it right here so we can tie up the Nye County Sheriff Department and Fire Department even more than they already are. That entire intersection is a catastrophe, the way it is right now. And I don't know if the state can help you or re figure some you can't get more property out of what you got is what your problem is.

Voice Ghear it at 2:15:05

Linda Clark, c l e r k. That intersection has always been, since I've been here, really bad. I don't even like to come down that way. But I was there one time going south through the intersection trying to stop behind some cars because one of our fire trucks, emergency people, an ambulance and everything was trying to get through there. It was a nightmare. I felt so sorry for them because they couldn't get through. And they're cutting over to the other side of Homestead to try to go around all the traffic, which was a lot of traffic at that time of the day. So making two lanes going north, turning left off of Homestead doesn't to me seem that it helps anything. It doesn't help the traffic coming the other direction. So I don't know what and who thought that all up. The whole intersection is bad. And trying to get out of either one of those gas stations is ridiculous. I won't even go to either one of them because I don't wanna fight all that traffic. And and nobody's kind. No one wants to let you out, especially during business times or people trying to get in and out of home or in and out of there. I thought once they put the new station in, it would be a little bit easier. But it is, and you gotta go out to the right, all the way down, turn around, and hope that you can get through the traffic, and then go back the other direction to make an to go back to go south. I don't wanna be bothered with all that. And if you've got a fire truck or emergency services trying to get through or policeman or something else. Or I was in that intersection another time when they were bringing those big tank things they were building for the power through there. That was a nightmare. I sat there forever trying to wait for that thing to get through the intersection. I don't I I can't even imagine that being a roundabout there and those things trying to get through any of the roundabouts in this town, which is absolutely stupid. Thank you.

Voice Chear it at 2:17:06

Thank you, Linda. Anybody else on the phone?

Voice Chear it at 2:17:13

No. Closed public comment. Commissioners, do you have any questions for our road people? Tom is here. Cody's here.

Voice Dhear it at 2:17:29

Nothing from me, sir.

Voice Chear it at 2:17:31

And do we have a motion?

Voice Ehear it at 2:17:49

Can I address some of the comments that were made? Go ahead. Please. So there was comment made about, putting the raised dots to kinda identify what lane you're supposed to be in as you're going through the intersection. That's part of this project. There's also comments about trying to be able to get through the intersection, but the, emergency vehicles cannot. And the reason why the emergencies cannot get to that intersection is because the queue of vehicles is all the way back to a Coma Street. And that's what we're trying to lessen here. If you put two left hand turn lanes, there'll be eight vehicles stacked deep instead of 16. And that's what we're trying to lessen is the amount of vehicles that are stacked and queued and able to go through that intersection. Mean, I've been before where I've gone through two lights just trying to turn left on there coming off of Homestead. That's two lights. If there's two lanes turning left, we'd be able to turn left, two vehicles at a time, and you wouldn't have to go through two lights to get off of there. This is actually going to help the traffic situation in this intersection. This is designed by engineers and with the help of public works of what our actual traffic situation is, they did traffic studies. They did car counts. They did left turning movements. They did everything that they needed to do to make sure that this would help the intersection. We don't need any more real estate because we're using existing lanes that are there because there's hardly any right hand turn lane or right hand turning vehicles coming off of Homestead. And there's hardly any going straight through the intersection versus what turns left onto Homestead because most of the people are going uptown that are coming off of Homestead at that point. So that's what we're trying to fix here. I mean, it's at this point, really what the decision is to be made by this board is can we go out to bid without and get it done, get the work done on it without because we didn't get any bidders to do the work. And that's like was asked by mister Boscovich. We're getting that in a lot of our things. Our emulsion contract last year, had to let out because we didn't get any bidders. And then we had competing bids afterwards. The people don't wanna pay the bonding anymore. They don't wanna pay any of this other stuff that they have to do in order to do the public works project bids. Whenever they know that we're gonna have to let it out anyways, we're going to have to get the work done. So you guys can either allow us to do the work and bid it out through our office or the project just doesn't get done and it stays exactly the way it is now. That's really where we're at.

Voice Hhear it at 2:20:23

You're the chair. Yes. Commissioner. Thank you. Tom, what's the up to number what's the up to number for you to go out to bid or to do the work?

Voice Ehear it at 2:20:41

275,000 is what we believe the engineer's estimate was. I don't know that offhand. Sorry. And this retimes the all the signals in that intersection. It puts new grounding rods in the ground so that they can identify the vehicles as they sit there and see which ones are turning left, see which ones are trying to go straight or turn right. It does all that work as part of this project. It's a turnkey project. We won't have to do anything in house. We won't have to do anything else with it when we're done. When it's done, it'll work correct. We'll have the three second timing that the sheriff's department and DM has been screaming for. And, you know, we're trying to make sure that this is right and it's better and safer for the motoring public for this intersection.

Voice Hhear it at 2:21:33

Right. And and I think we understand what you're trying to accomplish for for the relief of the traffic, etcetera. And do you have if it was up to this $275,000 do you have it in the 102.05 account? Yes. For Rhodes? Yes. Okay. And are you confident that you could do it for this amount, up to this amount with no change orders?

Voice Ehear it at 2:22:06

I don't believe in change orders. I write this Well, I don't either. So it's almost impossible for them to get a change order. So, yes, I do believe we can do it without change orders. And with the engineers estimate being 275,000, that would include the 30% extra you would get on top of that for the PWP project initially. This is the bonding with everything else that's required through a public works project.

Voice Chear it at 2:22:52

else, commissioner? Commissioner Botkovich? Anybody?

Voice Dhear it at 2:22:59

I have nothing, sir.

Voice Chear it at 2:23:01

K. Anybody feel like making a motion?

Voice Hhear it at 2:23:07

Sure. I'll make a motion, chair, to fund this public works project, Number 2020 Six-four In Homestead Road 160, Highway 160, up to $275,000 with no change orders and fund from 10205 Roads.

Voice Chear it at 2:23:29

So you want let the contract. Is that correct?

Voice Hhear it at 2:23:33

B, let the contract for further bidding in accordance with NRS three three eight point one four three. Thank you. I have a motion and a second. Amended second.

Voice Chear it at 2:23:43

Amended second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Koenig, aye. You got it. Go fix it. Item number 11.

Voice Ahear it at 2:24:04

Item 11, general public comment up to three minute time limit per person. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.

Voice Bhear it at 2:24:31

Go ahead, Dwight. Dwight Lilly, l I l y. Commissioner Koenig, a couple of meetings ago, mentioned that, well, you guys want stuff, and so we go ahead and give it to you. So we just spent a whole meeting talking about cutting expenses, and on the very last item, $275,000, you might have approved it. So it shows me that there's no real intent by this board the way it sits. So be serious about cutting expenses because all somebody else do is come in with an item that has a little emotional appeal to it. Bam. There goes $275,000, which now Zena, who's already charged for that to go find more ways because my district attorney, Kunze, he can't even handle a speeding ticket case anymore without letting the police go there because they don't have any people to do it. So this is indicative and has been indicative. What the problem is is and commissioner Connie called it a couple of millions ago. You guys want this. Well, I don't want it. I want you guys to balance the budget. So that's what I got to say on that. I'm not happy with the county spending the town of Prump's money on county expenses. I brought that up. You guys disagree with me. So I would rather propose then if you had just came and asked the citizens of Prompt, would you load us the money at a modest interest rate? And we will pay you back once we've got rid of people that we need to get rid of, straighten the management out, straighten the books out, I would have felt a lot more comfortable with that. But instead, I was deceived into believing that you guys would would uphold what was agreed upon back in 2012. And I was I'm sorry. I was suckered. I believe the person's word meant something and a handshake must but but I was wrong. But I applaud Senna Tesh Tesh for the work she's done. I appreciate you three. I'm disappointed that we only have three commissioners here. I'm really disappointed that it appears to me that some people wanna play games with what seriousness of this is. The seriousness that they would actually take vacation to Sao Melle when you guys are trying to fix the problem. So Ron Vasquez, I'm glad he's at least calling in. Deborah Strickland and Ian Bain are I should be ashamed of themselves for not being here. Thank you.

Voice Chear it at 2:27:07

Linda, come on up.

Voice Dhear it at 2:27:13

Don't hide. Linda Clark, c l a r k. And I spelled it right, John. Okay. What a taxing, bizarre, threatening, disgusting, and embarrassing show of professional people that are supposed to represent what the number three largest county in The United States. Wow. I don't know if I wanna be connected to that. Okay. My suggestion is, and there's probably a lot of other people that go with the same thing. We didn't wanna go to fiscal watch. I'm at this point today whether maybe we need to go to fiscal watch or whatever comes after fiscal watch. I don't know what you call it, but if the state has to take over this county, at this point, I don't think even loony tombs can straighten us out. Thank you.

Voice Chear it at 2:28:15

Thank you, Linda.

Voice Ehear it at 2:28:22

Maryann Hollis, h o l l I s. I opened and I guess I'll close. I don't know what happens now. Perhaps the comptroller can tell us because she has directed the BOCC to come forward with more cost saving measures. And if the budget is due tomorrow, when will that happen? Can it happen? Here's what I hope. Because it can't happen, I don't believe, because it would be a public meeting, number one. I hope this budget goes to detox and they say, are you kidding me? You're getting it back? And then I hope the governor says, we're coming in with receivership. Forget the fiscal watch. Because again, if you can't admit that you were part of this problem, then the only solution is to let somebody else tell you you are part of this problem, not us. Thank you. And I go out with a bang.

Voice Chear it at 2:29:39

Come on down.

Voice Fhear it at 2:29:43

Steven Pittman, p I t m a n. Perhaps this should have been brought up in the previous item, but there is a proposal to put upwards of 200 more houses up, in the Winery area. I just wonder what those 200 houses worth of vehicles is going to do to the intersection at Winery And 160. Hopefully, that will be considered by the developer that's going to do that because Winery Road right now is not in great shape. And with the double bottom dumpers that roar up and down from Parsons Road, it's only getting worse. You can almost not pass side by side anymore without your out or your inboard tires dragging on the line and your outboard tires off the pavement. Thank you.

Voice Chear it at 2:30:36

Thank you, sir. Anyone on the phone?

Voice Ghear it at 2:30:43

The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Hhear it at 2:30:48

Yes. Tim Bohannon, b o h a n n o n. In everything that we've done today, one of the bigger concerns I've got, not apart from the budget because that's huge, but is the cash position or cash flow. There is none. Making sure that making sure from a cash flow standpoint that the timing of early payouts and things of that nature are coordinated with the financial position and cash availability. Otherwise, we will be back in the situation, and we probably should be, where we don't have money to do payments or purchases, and now it's gonna cause us even more problems. So, you know, from a finance standpoint, we gotta look at the whole picture, not just a piece of it. Talking about the balance sheet, the income statement, and the statement of cash flows. Different names from governmental, but I'm I'm shortening it up for to this purpose. Bottom line is where do we stand not only from a budget standpoint, but the actuals. In this case, today's was a true up for the budget based on actuals. But going forward, how frequently is it gonna be looked at? Every month? Every quarter? Once a year? Once a year is too long. And we've seen that today. More frequency more frequency reporting, which I know that the auditors called for many times, is is necessary to be able to stay afloat. And, you know, we're based on today's decisions, we may be either on close or on the watch list based on some of the decisions. Thank you.

Voice Ghear it at 2:32:42

The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ihear it at 2:32:49

Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, GARCIA. Can you hear me? Yeah. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the acknowledgment. And I'll go ahead and make it easy for Nye County's authority and jurisdiction. I've tried to stay in with an alienable declaration of the right to practice and the right to participate. So, hopefully, we can have some common ground on that. And, basically, I wanna recognize who can talk about these interlocking contracts, and I definitely appreciate that viewpoint. But anyhow, let's go back to the contract. Let's go start with Nevada state constitution article one and or section one. It's an inalienable declaration. Okay? So, we gotta start recognizing what kind of assets we're covering up. And the number one fraud currently on a county level is misappropriations. So I think we're finally starting starting to get there, and we definitely know what it's like, to be able to talk about state and federal funding and the sureties that go along with these block grants that you're, misappropriating. Also, to bring you back home, I'd like to remind everybody in Nye County, if we just move that county seat from Tonopah to Pahrump, we'll actually be saving 2,400,000 yearly on occurring cost. So that definitely should be on the table. And if y'all can't handle it, give it back to the citizens. We can save Nye County. The people that created the problem may not be the one to solve it. Thank you all very much, and tenth amendment voting seems like a good idea, but notification gets it done. Anybody else Any objections from

Voice Chear it at 2:34:40

Thought you were done, Michael. Sorry. Any more phone? No, chair. Okay. I'm going to close public comment, and we go go to item 12.

Voice Ahear it at 2:34:58

Item 12, commissioner manager comments. This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction of the staff for topics proposed for future board meetings, Lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law.

Voice Chear it at 2:35:34

Voskovic, do have anything?

Voice Dhear it at 2:35:39

Thank you, chair. I I I find it interesting and I find it sort of humorous and a little bit disgusting, but folks moved here from Southern California within the last few years and tell my county exactly what they're doing wrong. They're not here to help. All they're here to do is bitch and moan and complain. And that is where I will leave it there. Be part of the problem. I mean, rather, part of the solution than the problem. That's all I've got. Thank you, Commissioner.

Voice Bhear it at 2:36:14

Commissioner Algebor? Thank you, Chair. I just want to thank everybody for their input. Thank you for being here. Thank you for your patience. Not sure what happened with the Internet earlier, but it was corrected. And yes, we went a little over, but appreciate everybody's input.

Voice Chear it at 2:36:38

Thank you. Good. Thank you. And, I'll end with my typical. I have nothing for this time. Thank you all for being here. Oh, Brett, go ahead. Anybody?

Voice Ahear it at 2:36:53

So I just wanted to throw this out there to the commissioners. Since we were told back when we were in front of you with the budget, furloughs were off the table, layoffs are off the table, but we need to cut $1,200,000 in labor costs. I thought the idea of people voluntarily wanting to help us make those cuts was a grand idea. So I am open to suggestions. So please drop me an email or something to let me know how to fix this problem.

Voice Chear it at 2:37:33

We'll take any and all I have is. Was that you, Bruce? Sorry. Yes. Yes, sir.

Voice Bhear it at 2:37:41

Thank you. I readily understand, what you're saying, manager. But when you come forth with an idea and you have one portion of numbers, you need to have the other side of the numbers. That's been lacking. So yes, grand idea. But it wasn't whole, it wasn't full, it wasn't transparent, it was one-sided. There was no true savings in the savings of a number that you provided and presented. And that's what we've been asking for. Give us a true number. What are we really going to be saving here? Drop you an email. Why don't you pick up the phone and call each commissioner and go over it with us? Have you done that?

Voice Chear it at 2:38:58

That it? Any other managers have comment? Yes, Zena.

Voice Ehear it at 2:39:07

So we submitted our budget to detox the end of May. In that budget, we had a savings of $1,200,000 that we were gonna come up with. The way I see it, we still need to come to the board with a $1,200,000 savings. I would say we need to ask department heads and employees to give suggestions on savings programs. That would be one area. The other area, I would say, is take a look at the people that have volunteered to, leave employment here and see if the position is gonna be permanently vacated, then that's definitely a savings. And we have to give you if the position has to be, filled at a lower rate, we have to give you the the net savings, not a gross up number. And I'm just putting this out there so that it's it's I I I understand what you're asking of. I will take a look at the employee program and work with HR to come back with another number that will include potential positions that would have to be filled at a lower salary. And then the last item was, DTACS approved our budget June 24. So we do have an approved budget, but now we have to get to that approved budget because we put an assumption in there on cost savings that we really don't have.

Voice Chear it at 2:41:15

Thank you. Any other managers? Not seeing, not hearing, I guess not. So