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July 7, 2026
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2. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT (Up to three-minute time limit per person) Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item (FIRST).
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Item two, general public comment up to three minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.
Voice Bhear it at 0:07:48
Thank you for that.
Voice Chear it at 0:07:51
Here I do have somebody here in Tonopah, happens to be the Tonopah town manager for public comment. Thank
Voice Ahear it at 0:07:57
Mr. Westerlund. Go right ahead, sir.
Voice Bhear it at 0:08:01
Thank you. Joe Westerlund.
Voice Dhear it at 0:08:03
Tonopah Town Manager last name is W-E-S-T-E-R-L-U-N-D and good morning commissioners I wanted to give you an update for our Harvey Park that we've been working on for two years it's a hundred percent complete
Voice Ehear it at 0:08:19
We have two pickleball courts, a new basketball court, and a state-of-the-art skate park. We're going to have a, they're calling it, after I looked at the flyer, I didn't know what they were going to call it, but it's going to be a reimagining of the RV park. And we're going to have a barbecue, we'll hot dogs, chips, water. We're going to have some...
Voice Fhear it at 0:08:40
We'll have two professional skateboarders there. They're going to give some safety classes and some demonstrations to the kids. There's going to be a lot of fun games. We'll have a DJ there. We're going to have a pickleball tournament. So it's going to be a great time and I'm doing an open invitation to all the commissioners and county manager and the assistant county manager and all the staff. We're going to be putting out some flyers to the whole town of Tonopah. It's going to be a fun time and it's something that the town can be proud of. If you haven't had a chance to look at it, go over there and drive by and take a look at it. It's beautiful. And that's all I have.
Voice Ahear it at 0:09:17
Hey, Joe, what was the date on that?
Voice Fhear it at 0:09:22
Uh, July 18th, I'm sorry, July 18th from 11 to 2. It's a Saturday.
Voice Bhear it at 0:09:27
Thank you, sir.
Voice Ehear it at 0:09:29
I was hoping you'd have it done by one o'clock today. We could all go there for lunch.
Voice Bhear it at 0:09:36
Thanks. Come on down up front, please.
Voice Chear it at 0:09:41
Dwight Lilley, L-I-L-L-Y. I understand that people plan vacations ahead of time. But at the last meeting, there were several, well more than one commissioner that was missing for the meeting, and I appreciate Ron Boscovich for participating even though he took time off from his vacation. Now it doesn't look like we have a full board again. And I would think that with communication available around the world, that a person, even if they're on vacation, would call in and participate in such critical meetings having to do with our budget. The people, we the people, didn't have anything to do with busting the budget, yet we're concerned about the outcome. And I would hope that an elected official that represents us would have the decency and the character to... show up either on the phone or in person and participate in proceedings, and sadly that didn't happen. The second item I wanted to bring up, we have several data center items, items 12, 17, 18, and I'm going to ask the chairman to bring those up as the very first items to be heard since many, most probably, people in the audience are interested in that topic. Thank you.
Voice Ehear it at 0:10:57
Uh, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ghear it at 0:11:07
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Hhear it at 0:11:12
Amy Nelson, N-E-L-S-O-N. I want to bring up the homeless people and Yes, this lack of humanity that they're being given. People may not be aware, but we have over 100 high school seniors who are homeless. Did you know that? Their families are homeless. And I don't mean they're sleeping on a couch at a friend's house or a relative's house. They are homeless. There are over 3,000 children that are homeless. I don't know how many families living on the streets or in the backyards or wherever they can that are homeless. We absolutely need to find a solution to either relocate People that want to be relocated since we don't have the resources, that would be my first, my first yes vote is to get them some kind of transportation to wherever they want to go and some of these items that we have surplus amounts of money in would certainly pay for some of that, most of that. And it would alleviate some of the crime and some of the problems that we're suffering now because of drug use and these people have no way to get to Las Vegas and maybe they want to go there. Who's asking them? Who's going out and actually putting forth the effort to talk to these people? We got plenty of effort. To destroy everything they have, making them desperate enough to steal from people in my district or other districts where they're being chased into, we just need to find a solution as a community to relocate these people or find a way to rehome these people. Because the rental prices being so high, they can't afford to pay rent anymore, not even with a voucher. An $1,800 voucher, you only get around $650 a subsidy. So it's not very much money. Thank you very much.
Voice Ahear it at 0:13:54
Thank you for that, Amy. Come on down. I always.
Voice Ihear it at 0:14:07
Ron Mortensen, M-O-R-T-I-N-S-O-N. First, again, I'd like to thank Bruce DeBoer for enforcing the IPMC vote. Skate Park has been secure for a year and two days. I was there a year and three days ago. Kunze gave me no restitution hearing. In my case where I was burglarized and had all my stuff stolen, that violates Marcy's Law, I've learned. In terms of weed abatements, I got ordinance texts from the fire chief, and inside it, the ordinance does say that people are to maintain from 30 to 100 feet of defensible space. The public's not been told. I've talked to so many people. They've never heard of defensible space before and then the next part of the ordinance says that people can be fined up to $1,000 and or six months in jail doesn't say anything about the $1,000 per day fines that people have been getting told about Um, so, um, so code enforcement is probably not representing the truth with these people because so many people tell the same story, um, and, you know, the county manager should be responsible for making sure code enforcement do people right. Then when people start suing, um, the DA should be asking questions, why are we getting sued? And if people don't want to make things right, you know, they need to face discipline.
Voice Ehear it at 0:15:44
Thank you Super Mario. Come on down for a place.
Voice Jhear it at 0:15:52
Good morning, Lorraine, G-I-L-B-E-R-T. Today I come with a different message. I come with a message of thanks. I just want to say thank you to each and every one of our BOCC members, to our planning department for coming together to work on a potential overlay zoning ordinance for the utility challenged lots. We recognize that these things take time and appreciate the effort that this is being investigated. Thousands of property owners are watching this process with hope that a practical pathway may. be finally coming as a country that just celebrated 250 years of independence, of freedom, of rights. What I would ask, let this be the end of 50 years of no freedom, no rights, no independent for these property owners. You've already taken huge, huge commendable steps forward.
Voice Khear it at 0:16:58
And I thank each and every one of you for it and encourage you, that's my message today, encourage you to give hope to those property owners who will be getting tax bills this month and still have no freedom and no rights. Thanks so much.
Voice Bhear it at 0:17:14
Thank you, Lorraine. Do we have anybody on the phone, Serena, please?
Voice Ghear it at 0:17:22
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Chear it at 0:17:27
Bruce Johnson, GOHM. That's who I am. Good morning, Commissioners. What I actually want to do is I want to point everybody back to the recent Supreme Court rulings that have taken place that concern surveillance technologies. In the event that we happen to have any of our public servants here contracting with anything to do with block cameras, license plate readers, anything like that, recent Supreme Court ruling, unconstitutional and unlawful. So it will bring. Some lawsuits against some people. So I'm going to highly recommend that we do an audit around the county. And if we have any cameras, we should show that on an audit and let it be known that if those cameras are not removed, that the county and the commissioners and the supervisor, everybody stands a chance of being sued for constitutional rights violations. and then I want to add that the discussion that's going on about some solutions for these zombie bots I appreciate that conversation coming forward and these ideas that are coming forward and I appreciate the public being involved and I appreciate you guys listening to the people that that does bear a lot of weight So you deserve to be commended for that. A little slow in the process maybe, but hopefully we can come to some remedies real soon. So other than that, I'm just going to wish you guys that you use due diligence in all of your decisions today and remember that you have a fiduciary responsibility to the people of Nye County. And it's your obligation to fulfill that. And the main purpose of government is to protect the people and their liberties and their rights. And I yield. Thank you.
Voice Ehear it at 0:19:39
Thank you, sir. And I don't think we have any cameras, Bruce. I'll check, though, but I don't think so. Come on down, please.
Voice Lhear it at 0:19:52
Tina Lally, L-A-L-L-Y. Good morning, commissioners. I'm here today on behalf of some local residents that neighbor the former Sanders Family Winery property on East Kellogg Road, which is now operating as Chateau Magique. To be clear, I'm not here to attack the business in any way. I'm a huge advocate for small businesses, especially those that benefit the children and families here of Pahrump. However, the right to a lawful business does not erase neighboring's rights to use their backyard in a nuisance-free and land use compatibility.
Voice Mhear it at 0:20:29
A nearby resident reached out to me because they are dealing with bright outdoor lighting, amplified music, and evening activity that is directly affecting the neighboring residential properties. I have seen the photos and I do have photos and it's no joke. Their entire backyard looks like it's just covered in floodlights and it shines their backyard and their homes.
Voice Nhear it at 0:20:50
I'm respectfully asking that this be referred to the appropriate county staff for review, and I'm also specifically asking that the county review whether the outdoor lighting complies with Trump's dark sky ordinance. This is really about making sure residents are protected, businesses are treated fairly, and everyone follows the same rules. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 0:21:09
Thank you. And I actually saw those lights last night, so I'm going to check into that. Do we have anybody serenade on the phone, please?
Voice Ghear it at 0:21:21
The callers unmuted please speak and spell your name for the record
Voice Hhear it at 0:21:26
Good morning commissioners and current members and residents. Cindy Lake, L-A-K-E, I would like to also commend you and thank you for digging into the
Voice Ohear it at 0:21:39
zombie law issue and remind everybody that without property rights we have no rights that's a favorite saying of mine I would love to see Pahrump and Nye County become the shining light for small homes and small lots communities to spring up and you guys can leave a legacy that would be a beautiful thing thank you
Voice Ahear it at 0:22:06
Thank you. Come on down, Ms. Southworth.
Voice Phear it at 0:22:13
Diane Southworth, S-O-U-T-H-W-O-O-R-T-H. I hope everybody had a happy 4th of July. Fireworks were spectacular. I saw a search and rescue out and EMTs and police and looks like everybody was doing a good job. So I appreciate that. But I do want to comment on what Amy Nelson was saying about the homeless. When is the last time that we did a report in Nye County on how many actual homeless there are in Nye County? I will tell you from the school report last June there were 169 children that were considered unhoused. A lot of them were... Two families living together, that type of thing, but there are actually 49 children that they have absolutely no idea where these children are living. And I will tell you this. Not all homeless people are drug addicts. Not all homeless people are criminals. We need to start thinking about them as our neighbors and our friends and find out what we can do to support them in a better manner. And just kicking them out of town isn't always the right solution. Thank you.
Voice Ehear it at 0:23:31
Thank you. Are we okay over there? Come on up, Linda.
Voice Phear it at 0:23:38
Good morning, everybody. Good morning, wonderful people. Okay. Interesting week. Our team lost.
Voice Ahear it at 0:23:49
Oh, I'm sorry.
Voice Phear it at 0:23:49
Linda Clark, C-L-A-R-K.
Voice Phear it at 0:23:54
Okay. All right. I have a quick question for right now. I'm sure I'll have more later and you can anticipate that. Um, I want to know, and this has been bugging me for a while, how many of this board have received kickbacks?
Voice Ohear it at 0:24:17
Was that a loaded question?
Voice Phear it at 0:24:24
Donations? and money in your pocket and yet your purpose was to do everything you could do to destroy this community and you don't think that but we think that so I want to know is there an accounting for that do you have to log the money that you get from the solar farms the med waste, and of course these data centers that we're all going to be getting. So I'm just curious if that's an answer that I can get out of this board. I'm doubting it because we don't get much from you anyway. But think about it. It's something to ponder and we wonder about it. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 0:25:14
Thank you, Linda, and it's all on...
Voice Ahear it at 0:25:17
Secretary of State, it's all stuff that we're required to produce. Come on down. And no, none of us on this board accept payments like that because that would be a crime, Linda. Thank you. But I appreciate your positivity. Go ahead, ma'am.
Voice Khear it at 0:25:36
Leah Aldridge, ALD, R-I-D-G-E. Good morning, Knight County.
Voice Nhear it at 0:25:44
We're all in our places with right shiny faces. Our constitutional rights have been being violated. This is not news. We have four flock cameras in this town already. They're in the parking lot of Home Depot. You can go down there and verify after this meeting.
Voice Mhear it at 0:26:02
Like I did. And also if you want to go up to a website called dflock.org, there's a map of the whole United States. And if you look at Las Vegas.
Voice Khear it at 0:26:13
That town is just all colored up with these cameras. They are everywhere. And if you don't know what they are, they get all your information. They access your cell phones. They tap into your Wi-Fi and your Bluetooth and get everything on you. You're being tracked and monitored by corporations you have no idea about. We need them out. Home Depot signed a nationwide agreement with FLOC to put them in parking lots of every store they have.
Voice Mhear it at 0:26:39
And they're there, people. So, get them out.
Voice Ehear it at 0:26:44
I did not know that, Leah. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please? If somebody could actually verify what Leah just said with me later.
Voice Ghear it at 0:26:57
The caller is unmuted.
Voice Ghear it at 0:26:58
and spell your
Voice Ghear it at 0:26:58
name for the record.
Voice Qhear it at 0:27:02
Hello, Commissioners. Michael David Garcia, GAR, CIA. Can you hear me?
Voice Dhear it at 0:27:07
Yes, sir. Go ahead.
Voice Qhear it at 0:27:10
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the acknowledgement and the enthusiasm. But imagine that, you know, maybe we should refer to the DA that you don't know what you're doing when you violate constitutional rights. Kudos.
Voice Rhear it at 0:27:10
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the acknowledgement and the enthusiasm. But imagine that, you know, maybe we should refer to the DA that you don't know what you're doing when you violate constitutional rights. Kudos, Mr. Bruce Johnson, once again, by pointing out this block stuff, but it is the Fourth Amendment right and y'all are breaking those rights. It's supposed to be protecting them. And the sheriff, shame on you. Imagine a policy officer career pretending to be a law enforcement. Yep. How many ordinances did you author there, sheriff? How many passed? How many do you enforce? Mr. D.A., do we need to call in an expert? Let's talk about your jurisdiction and authority here in Nye County. Subject matter can never be waived. That's my challenge flag. Chevron, you're practicing it. Jabor, you write unconstitutional rules and ordinances with Tim Sutton even. You want to know who's worse than Captain Berkowitz? These DAs. These county managers, these commissioners, these judges that traffic our children through these courts, y'all talked about CPS, so I should be able to talk to CPS. You know how many thousands of times they were mentioned in the Epstein file? Let that sink in to your interlocking agreements. We know who's trafficking, and maybe that last objection from the 18th or 16th, whatever it was. It could have been void for vagueness, but I don't know if y'all were objecting to the Lord's Prayer, like Luke 17.2 or the USC 18-4 misimprisonment of persons. You know, or maybe you were just subjected to the state and federal guidelines. I don't understand. I don't know where y'all are coming from. Y'all are making up everything. Chevron is the number one man-made hazard in these courtrooms. Look at our family court. Look at our estate, the probate. Look at murder by hospital. Look at our children. These guys are trafficking our children and they do nothing. They say nothing. They're protecting the predators. They will never solve the problem. They're a part of it. You take that to the bank. I understand what it means to practice against lukewarm Christians. This is a spiritual battle. Maybe I'll just stay on your feet if you can't get on your knees. But let's look up. Look up when it comes to a last place academia. Is that abuse and neglect? What about official fraud, extortion, and official oppression? Where are you at? I can't hear you, Commissioner. I can't hear you, County Manager. I can't hear the code enforcement. I can't hear the sheriff. I can't hear the DA. I can't hear the judges. Where are you at?
Voice Ahear it at 0:30:06
Thank you, Michael. Come on down, Ms. Overman.
Voice Chear it at 0:30:40
you spell your name?
Voice Jhear it at 0:30:40
Kelly Hoverman, H-O-V-E-R-M-A-N. I live on the south end of town and I'm a taxpayer. I am here to relate to the people in this audience tonight at 8 o'clock from, I mean at 6 o'clock from 6 to 8 p.m. at Treasurer's. Many waste is going to be here. They're going to be doing their dog and pony show.
Voice Shear it at 0:31:02
To us citizens, and I sure as hell hope everybody sitting behind me shows their face at this meeting. This is my town. This is my state. This is my city. This is my valley. This is my air. This is my land. This is my water. I do not want a medical waste facility here. I don't want. syringes I don't want I don't want I don't want sponges I don't want placentas I don't want parts of body parts I don't want I don't want intestines I don't want any of that stuff I'll call it garbage coming to here from California to be burned off to ruin my surroundings I pay good taxpayer money, and I'm not going to sit around and just let this town go to hell. I'm standing up, and I sure as hell hope every single person behind me stands with me. I don't want a data center either. You guys are supposed to be taking care of us in our town, and you're not. You all have your own agendas and your own plans and your own backroom blow money that you're collecting.
Voice Phear it at 0:32:18
I'm upset. Men away should have not have even been here, that in the data center shouldn't even be something to vote on. And the recycling center, I sure as hell hope that doesn't come out from under the carpet again surface later on. People here like the peace and tranquility. They don't want a polluted dump in the middle of nowhere.
Voice Shear it at 0:32:44
Trump is not a dump, and it's not going to be the dump to many waste. It's not going to be given up for the solar farms either, because I'm betting my life on the people behind me where this town is going to stand up, and that's all I have to say.
Voice Ahear it at 0:33:03
Perfect. Sam, do we have, or Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Phear it at 0:33:07
And I was on the news the other day, so every single retired person is.
Voice Ahear it at 0:33:11
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Thear it at 0:33:18
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Rhear it at 0:33:24
Matt Sadler, S-A-D-L-E-R. Good morning. Good morning everybody in the gallery. I just want to hopefully highlight some positives here in the community and I hope you have a great meeting today. A great 4th of July celebration, just want to touch on the Calvetta High Parade, the events at that park. I know it was super hot and it was so nice to see all those patriotic faces out there in the crowd, kids having fun playing water balloon fights. It was a really good event. Awesome firework show, O'Brien family, John O'Brien, Eddie, that was a great job. Awesome job for being the first time that they tried it in that new venue. I know there was logistical challenges for them to do that. They put on a great event for the community. It was a great 25 minutes of nonstop action, probably the best finale that they've had out here since I've been out here. I just want to go ahead and congratulate the community for all their enthusiasm, effort, and you know I think our best days are ahead of us. I know there's a lot of challenges out here on the agenda today in the future. Just keep hope alive. Things are going to get better. Thank you guys. Have a great meeting.
Voice Ehear it at 0:34:33
Thanks, Matt. And I agree with you on the finale. It was the best I've seen in 29 years. Come on up, please.
Voice Jhear it at 0:34:48
Good morning. My name is Laura, L-O-R-A, Stuart, S-T-E-W-A-R-T, and I'm a resident here of Pahrump and have family going back quite a few years. And my question is, when will we ever see another grocery store for us to buy groceries and not another fireworks place? In addition to the fireworks place that just went in, it's hindering traffic immensely when we come out of Mountain Falls or just going into. to the fireworks place we were promised maybe a turnaround or a stoplight or something but I don't know what the progress is on it and the speeding on 160 between man's and town is absurd and I don't see anyone really patrolling it I see more patrolling going on in the town on 160 between Homestead or Winery Road Homestead and the end of town. But something needs to be patrolled from where that horrible accident was on Manz into town, not just town. And as far as the grocery store, that's been quite a need for some time and we don't have everyone complains about the pricing, the this, the that and everything else.
Voice Khear it at 0:36:03
We need to have something for the people and not something for the Californians to come in and buy and shoot off their fireworks and cause fires. So thank you.
Voice Ehear it at 0:36:13
Thank you and hang tight because the shopping is coming down there
Voice Ehear it at 0:36:18
Serena do we have anybody on the phone please
Voice Thear it at 0:36:22
Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ohear it at 0:36:30
George Sevic, C-O-R-Y, S-E-W-I-C-H. Good morning, commissioners and everybody else. I know this is going to all sound negative, but these are questions that everybody has, and I would like some answers. First of all, I want to back up Amy Nelson regarding the homeless. I thought Health and Human Services received grant funds and other funds to help the homeless people and to get them bus tickets and or plane tickets back to their family if that's where they want to go. Health and Human Services has not provided a report on anything that they do in the last four years. So I want to see something from them. And what they're doing to help the people in this town. They just keep asking for money, but we don't know what the heck they're doing with it. The hand vein with the...
Voice Hhear it at 0:37:32
RV retrieval that he's doing. I did an accounting and I asked for the receipts of everything that he's done. He's gotten $70,000. He says there's $16,000 left of the first $35,000. However, when you take all the money that he's spent, there's a missing $11,000. I've asked him for a budget. I've asked him for accounting.
Voice Ohear it at 0:37:58
County he ignores me you know because I'm just a constituent asking for where my money is So I wanted to see something going on with accounting for our money there. Third thing is, John, where is our application to get people on our advisory board for the fairgrounds? It's been a couple of months. I know that some people were trying to hold you up. I want to change everything that's going on with... The fairgrounds and get some information out to the people is getting a little ridiculous. Meadow Waste, I had written a really long email to every one of the commissioners, and I even cited four or five items where the DOCC had reversed the decision of the RPC. When I said that to you guys, there wasn't even a peep. Why didn't you reverse Meadow Waste? These are things that, you know, we need answers on. I mean, a lot of this crap could have been ended with meta waste if you had just reversed the RPC decision. However, I don't know what the deal was that we didn't. But I'm sorry that it's all negative stuff, but I want to know where our money is. I want to have answers to the questions. Please, Mr. Wagner, if you can please get some answers to me, I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
Voice Ehear it at 0:39:22
Thanks, Beth. And, Beth, nobody appealed the Meadow Waste thing, so it never came before our board of five. It was handled completely at the RPC. Come on up, sir.
Voice Uhear it at 0:39:37
Good morning, Tom Boatman. It's refreshing to hear people talking
Voice Ehear it at 0:39:42
sir, but for the record, can you spell your last name, and I apologize.
Voice Uhear it at 0:39:44
I apologize. B-O-A-T-M-A-N.
Voice Uhear it at 0:39:48
It's refreshing to hear people talk about and wake up to what flop cameras are. I'd like to see them addressed. I think they need to be removed. They are a direct violation of my Fourth Amendment rights and your Fourth Amendment rights and everybody else's Fourth Amendment rights. Last I checked, stalking is illegal and it just seems to be going on everywhere. Everybody's turning a blind eye. I don't consent and I don't think anybody else here is going to consent if they're awake or they're soon to be awake and they find out how this data is being harvested, how it's being manipulated, how it's being hacked. How it's already destroying a lot of lives across the nation something has to be done. I don't consent. Thank you
Voice Bhear it at 0:40:29
Thank you. And I feel silly I did not even have a clue it was here. Come on up.
Voice Vhear it at 0:40:41
Hello, my name is Dawn Duncan Dewan, C-A-N, a long-term resident of Nye County. I'd like to speak today on a couple of things that have been on my mind, and first though, I'd like to give thanks to Beau Gott and the Road Department. They recently came out in the heat and fixed our main gateway at Crystal. We are so happy. It's such a relief. Secondly, I'd like to make sure that we get some funding for Sheriff McGill and the positions that need to be filled. Our county's growing. There's been some strange things going on in the parking lots and in the park at the grocery store Walmart and stuff like that So I really think that's important. We're growing. We need to get those spots filled Secondly regarding the flat cameras the flat cameras that are in a Home Depot Are recording your cars your license plates and your movements there in the parking lot If you have the dflock app on your phone like Leo was talking about, it shows you where the cameras are. So for Nye County, we just have four, and they are supposed to be recording license plates and things like that and sharing them with the police departments and stuff like that. So why is Home Depot now in the business of recording us and looking at our license plate and their cameras are in like 12k? They can zoom down on your toenail polish. They can look at your data on your phone. It's crazy. So that's a serious concern. I didn't know that they were in that business and reporting without me knowing. And that bugs me a little bit. also This business with the data centers, if you want to complain about the water they're going to use, there'll be an answer. It's a closed loop system. If you want to complain about the land, they'll always be more land. So they've got answers for everything. The serious problem about these data centers is the holding of everybody's personal private information that's shared with If your hospitals, doctors, stuff your cell phone picks up, your laptop picks up, your TV picks up, it's all being harvested and sent out to people that are going to make money in the interim off your... data that you didn't approve to be sold off to other individuals. We don't know where this data is actually going to go. It could go to another country. It could go to China. It could go in the Middle East. We don't know what they're going to do once the data is collected. And that's the problem I have. Of course, water is an issue. Land is an issue. The humming is an issue. I'm sure
Voice Vhear it at 0:43:44
your data. Thank Always you very much. Have a good day.
Voice Ehear it at 0:43:47
nice to see you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 0:43:55
Come on up. You're just in time.
Voice Chear it at 0:44:15
I wasn't touching the right button. Jeanne King, K-I-N-G.
Voice Chear it at 0:44:19
Good morning, and I just have a couple issues. June the 16th with this department, these are my mind's blank, but.
Voice Ihear it at 0:44:39
When you have somebody come to speak, and I know you've answered me via the email, I emailed all of you about if the speaker comes up to speak after we've had public discussion, provides new information, then we the people should be able to come up for another comment session. Which wasn't done with the advent when the lawyer came up and was not done at the planning committee. When Ross Meads came up, then he sat down, then he came up, then he sat down, then he came up. We didn't get a public comment and there was definitely things that brought up that I wanted to say something about. And I know you guys have a lot of meetings and sometimes it just gets away because I have been chair of meetings before. So if we could.
Voice Chear it at 0:45:41
pay attention to that, that would make me very happy. Then I noticed that they are having a lawsuit.
Voice Whear it at 0:45:49
In Las Vegas about this Coyote Springs and the water there, very interesting and it involves the state engineer of water which will be interesting to watch because Ativan wants to come and build all these houses here and then threatened, I watched the tape, to sue us if we did not allow them to do what they wanted. on it that was extremely disturbing to me but let's just see what happens with this case I don't know how fast it's going to move it's either going to be good for us or it's going to put a screw in us so but anyway thank you very much for this time
Voice Rhear it at 0:46:31
Thank you for that, Ms. King, and I just saw that article yesterday. Come on down, Patricia.
Voice Jhear it at 0:46:45
Good morning, Patricia Robb, ROBB. I really don't have anything planned to say other than to say thank you in regards to the utility challenge lots that we are moving this forward. I also want to give you some credit here for something Congress just passed.
Voice Shear it at 0:46:54
Thank you in regards to the utility challenge lots that we are moving this forward.
Voice Jhear it at 0:47:02
I also want to give you some credit here for something. Congress just passed the largest housing reform bill in decades. You guys are ahead of the game. Congress initiated this, but I want to thank you. The purpose of the 21st Century Road ROAD to Housing Act is to increase housing supply. You're trying to do that and I think with the utility challenge lots you're considering this
Voice Khear it at 0:47:33
Reduce unnecessary regulatory barriers. I think you're doing that also with the utility challenge lots. Encourage local zoning reform. Thank you. I can see you're doing that for the utility challenge lots. Promote innovative housing solutions. That's what's going on here. Help communicate modernized housing policy.
Voice Shear it at 0:47:58
Agencies. Nye County Utility Challenged Overlay can accomplish these same objectives at a local level. So I thank you. I have created a pamphlet here, a brochure type booklet that if anybody wants one, I have a few of these here and I'll leave one with you so you guys can take turns looking at them because I didn't print up this many. But it does talk about alternative utilities. What are the water options, toilet options, wastewater, power, small home benefits, myths versus facts about alternative utilities, and tiny home possibilities. I've also been in touch with many of these companies who would love to come to Pahrump and help, but until the zoning is fixed, they feel like they can't. But I did get a booklet from separate.
Voice Hhear it at 0:48:50
And I've actually got a whole box load of these if somebody wants one of these. I brought them with me today regarding composting toilets that are waterless, flushless, odorless, and perfect for the smaller homes. They also have several other types.
Voice Phear it at 0:49:08
toilets available that do require electricity but these don't and I love it it's great so with everything going on I want to say thank you for listening to us I know everybody has something to bring up and that's important they're not always easy to tackle but I do thank you for taking the steps you are taking for the utility challenge lots
Voice Ehear it at 0:49:33
Thank you, Patricia. If you want to leave that with Serena. Um Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 0:49:47
Alright, we're gonna close public comment and move on to number three, please.
3. Commissioner/Manager Comments (This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings. Lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law).
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Voice Ahear it at 0:49:53
Item three, Commissioner and Manager comments. This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff or topics proposed for future board meetings. Lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law.
Voice Bhear it at 0:50:13
Thank you for that. Commissioner Strickland is out, so I'm going to go directly to Commissioner Bain. Do you have anything, sir?
Voice Chear it at 0:50:21
Yes, thank you. Just two brief things. First, I was emailed about, I answer every single email people send to me. And I did get an email on June 19th about RV records. I sent it to Lorena asking to refer the individual to public records as I don't have records that the person is asking for. So I have no idea what happened. Do you know what happened there? Did you refer? I'm sure you did.
Voice Dhear it at 0:50:45
Yes, it was sent to the public records and our public records administrator did respond and supplied her with the reports that were requested.
Voice Chear it at 0:50:55
That's great to hear. Thank you, madam. And then on the light, I can't see, is the under sheriff in the room? Could someone tell me?
Voice Chear it at 0:51:02
I'm just curious.
Voice Chear it at 0:51:03
I was once with him. And he was driving a vehicle without a license plate because he was doing police stuff and he was pulled over by a a DMV police officer. So I just want to make a point that I don't know if he wants to speak to that, but I just want to make a point to people that just because someone's out there with law enforcement abilities, it's not necessarily the sheriff that's doing it. And so I don't know much about what's going on with license plate things, but we can't stop the DMV from coming into the county. that may be something that's going on I'm not sure I actually moved out of Chicago when they started doing the speed cameras that is why I moved out of Chicago so it couldn't be more against what a nightmare that is red light cameras speed cameras I believe the sheriff in Clark County is a big advocate of that as a matter of fact so yes we have a lot of problems potential problems with those kinds of things but just remember there are DMV police out there and And we can't stop them from doing what they're doing. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Hang tight, Corey. I got to get through all this first. Bruce, Commissioner Jabbour, do you have anything for us, sir?
Voice Bhear it at 0:52:17
Thank you, Chair. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for being here today. And for the record, there are four commissioners present, two here in Tonopah, two in Pahrump.
Voice Ahear it at 0:52:28
with Commissioner Strickland absent and I bring that up for the record as there was public comment that we didn't have a basically we didn't have a quorum today but we do so thank you again and look forward to today
Voice Bhear it at 0:52:43
Thank you, Commissioner, and I didn't hear that part or I would have addressed it myself. Commissioner Koenig.
Voice Ehear it at 0:52:50
I don't really have much to say except last meeting I was the only one sitting here, so thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 0:52:59
Thank you for chairing, by the way. All right, all I have is welcome everybody. I love seeing packed crowds. Brian's raising his hand. So anyway, we'll move on to directors, managers, undersheriffs, stuff like that.
Voice Ahear it at 0:53:14
Go ahead, Brian.
Voice Bhear it at 0:53:15
Thank you very much. I really would like to have a discussion on fleet. This prevents me from doing my job. We've eliminated fleet. We have to transport complaints and things down. We acquired wet signatures. We cannot transport these without fleet. It's also affecting my child support division of getting orders and stuff signed. So I'm just puzzled as to the reason why fleet was canceled.
Voice Fhear it at 0:53:42
Because again, I need to have that capability of of transporting legal documents back and forth from Tonopah uh to Pahrump and back. Um so I we we really need to look at the solutions for that.
Voice Chear it at 0:53:57
Oh, okay. We'll look into that. And potentially maybe a deputy back and forth could do that.
Voice Ghear it at 0:54:02
Oh, I'll answer part of it.
Voice Ghear it at 0:54:04
Reason fleet is currently cancelled is 'cause the guy just retired.
Voice Bhear it at 0:54:10
And he's been out on injury.
Voice Bhear it at 0:54:12
Right now we don't have a fleet driver.
Voice Chear it at 0:54:16
Gotcha. All right. We'll look into that. Come on up, Corey. Can I fight a volunteer?
Voice Ehear it at 0:54:20
If you pay my gas, I'll use my car back and forth.
Voice Chear it at 0:54:25
I'm Corey Files, F-O-W-L-E-S. I was pulled over by DMV police on, I did have a plate. I used to be a detective when I used to do police work for a living.
Voice Fhear it at 0:54:35
I was driving an undercover vehicle and it had a Nevada license plate on it, but it's cold-plated for obvious covert reasons and he ran my plate. Don't know why he ran my plate, but he ran my plate and it came back no return, no address, so he pulled me over and that's what that was. But to Commissioner Bain's point, the DMV police are out here and they do do enforcement work of
Voice Hhear it at 0:54:57
Nevada DMV registration, things of that nature routinely. So that's what that was.
Voice Bhear it at 0:55:02
Well, thank you, sir. Come on up, Christy. He probably knows the judge.
Voice Ihear it at 0:55:13
Christy Segmund, S-I-E-G-M-U-N-D. So I have some really fun things to share with you all today, some statistics. I first wanted to potentially give some education. So at the 18th of June BOCC, Commissioner Bain had referred to the office assistant position as a secretary, and it came to my attention because staff was, they felt demeaned, they felt degraded using that term. And as I watched the video, because I wasn't here in that afternoon, I had left at lunch, I don't believe the intention was offensiveness, but it did bring up the fact that I don't think people know what our office assistant does and how important it is to the prime shelter. So just a few things. That assistant is our animal control officer dispatcher. They dispatch for animal control. They research activities for animal control. They support the animal control officers while they're out in the field to get accurate and real addresses for those officers to respond to. They are intake specialists. Over 50% of the animals that come into the shelter here in Pahrump are through the front door. So they are the people that greet. They are the people who get all of the finders information. They do what we call a head-to-tail and make sure that they have all of the animals. all the information that we have available to us at that time for that animal to get it in the system they scan for microchips if there is a microchip they find the they find the owner they are also our adoption specialists so on the other end of it they they completely do from start to finish The adoption, collecting all the adopters' information, sharing any animal information with them. They assist me with social media. They assist me with the inventory of the shelter. They assist me with putting in all of the medical information into the system. So they are very data-driven. There's just so much truly that they do. So while the job description does make them sound like they're
Voice Jhear it at 0:57:14
not doing all of the work that they're supposed to do, they're doing a lot of work.
Voice Ihear it at 0:57:14
Mike they're just answering some phone calls answering some emails in fact that's actually a really small percentage of their job they are a huge asset to the Pahrump animal shelter and to public safety here in Pahrump so I just wanted to clear that because they really truly are a very very vital part of our team Some statistics for you, in June we took in 141 animals, 51 adoptions, 35 transfers meant 86 placements. So that was really great. The last few months we've seen a decline, so it was really nice for the month of June to see that uptick and get us back up to those numbers again. We did only have 23 return to owners, so that obviously is a number that we want to see. change we want to see that become higher but here's some really fun statistics we have had what we have been very affectionately calling our battle of the sponsors because we had sponsorships in April we had sponsorships in May we had sponsorships in June so in April it was 25 adoptions in May 21 and then in June we had 39 so that was 85 total adoptions through our last three months, which was really fun. posting them out there. Plus we had 41 transfers of our no-kill rescues and our partners coming in. So 125 animals saw their forever homes in the last three months.
Voice Ahear it at 0:58:40
Who won between Commissioner Jabbour and Commissioner Koenig?
Voice Ihear it at 0:58:43
Well, it was earlier it was Commissioner Koenig, but because of the election season we did not announce exactly who. who were our sponsors, but it was our June sponsor that won. as far as the most amount. Can I say it now? Okay, because now we're not in election season.
Voice Chear it at 0:59:05
Who was it?
Voice Ihear it at 0:59:06
All right, so in April we had Michelle Nelson sponsor. In May we had Sheriff McGill sponsor. And then in June we had DA Koonze sponsor.
Voice Ihear it at 0:59:15
So DA Koonze took it by 13 adoptions.
Voice Ihear it at 0:59:24
what's even more
Voice Khear it at 0:59:25
I put in for a recall? A recount.
Voice Ihear it at 0:59:30
a recount? All right, I'll get right on that. And we're just continuing that momentum into this month. We are participating in the Bissell Empty the Shelter event that goes through the 26th of this month. Adoption fees are only $20 and we have right now 80, 82 animals available for adoption. So 62 dogs, 19 cats, puppies, kittens, adults, seniors, we really run the gamut right now. So definitely come in and take a look. And I also wanted to thank the community. This 4th of July weekend, it's always a busy weekend for us and we see a lot of intake of animals. Of the animals that came in, there are only two that remain in our shelter unclaimed. So owners really thank you so much from our entire team for picking up your animals, for bringing, you know, the attention to us that they were lost so when they came. came in, we were able to reunite them right away. And thank you to those owners who microchipped. Over half the animals found out in the field were able to go home before even hitting the shelter door simply because they were microchipped and we were able to reunite them immediately in the field. So huge, huge, huge props and thank you to our community. While it was a busy weekend, it was a very successful weekend. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 1:00:46
Thank you, manager. Come on up, Joe.
Voice Chear it at 1:00:49
Mr. Chair, may I have a point of personal privilege?
Voice Chear it at 1:00:51
May I exercise that? I just wanted to address what was said about me. I'm 52 years old. I feel like I'm 152 years old. The Secretary of State is the most important appointed position in the world that's not elected. I don't see the word secretary as something other than just what I call people in certain positions. In 2000, I was what I called the press secretary for a person who's running for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts. Everyone else called it the communications director. So I apologize if my choice of words, and it's kind of interesting, this is the first time I think I've ever had to. say something like that but I'd never see the word secretary as anything other than just a position it was not intended to demean anyone I know that my words are going to be increasingly hung on more and more and so I guess shame on me for not being more careful but you know I have become quite a lightning rod in this position it's not intended it's just what happens when you do the things I do Thank You Mr. Chairman
Voice Ahear it at 1:01:52
Thank you, sir. Go ahead, Sheriff.
Voice Bhear it at 1:01:54
Morning, Sheriff Joe McGill. I just wanted to respond a little bit to the flock camera issue that came up. And by the way, Chair, I sent you an email. Yes, there are flock cameras in this community. I, at one point, did not know that until I saw them and recognized them. And I checked with that business and they said, yes, we do. There's probably, I'm going to just go out on a limb and say there's probably at least 100 of them in Las Vegas. So whatever you do, don't drive to Las Vegas if you're opposed to them. The June 29th, I was just reading that article that I sent you. The June 29th Supreme Court ruling did not relate directly to Flock cameras. However, what I was reading as people were talking was that it is still up in the air. Oh, it's to be determined, I guess you will say.
Voice Ahear it at 1:02:50
Where are they, Joe, other than Home Depot? Where else here are the other 30?
Voice Bhear it at 1:02:54
That's all Home Depot.
Voice Ahear it at 1:02:55
I thought they said
Voice Ahear it at 1:02:56
there was four.
Voice Bhear it at 1:02:56
my knowledge, however, like I said, I didn't know that they were there until I saw them and then I went in and asked them. I will tell you, I am a huge fan of flock cameras or... LPR cameras, whether it be FLOC or another company, and part of our capital expenditure proposal was to establish some LPR cameras in our valley. They are a fantastic tool if used properly and under correct policy, and they will solve crimes and catch bad guys.
Voice Ahear it at 1:03:34
Thank you sir.
Voice Ahear it at 1:03:36
On break time maybe one of you can tell me where the other ones are here. Do we have any managers or directors on the phone please Serena?
Voice Ahear it at 1:03:50
Alright we're going to close that out and move to number four. Moving right along. An hour and two minutes.
4. Approval of the Agenda for July 7, 2026 (Non-action item)
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Voice Ahear it at 1:04:02
Item four, approval of the agenda for July 7, 2026. We do have some items we're going to pull. Item five on page one, items 13 and 14 on page two, item 17 on page three and item 21 on page three.
Voice Bhear it at 1:04:29
Seventeen, hold on.
Voice Bhear it at 1:04:38
Is seven is that seven? Okay.
Voice Ahear it at 1:04:48
Okay. Through the chair, manager, could you repeat those again please?
Voice Ahear it at 1:04:53
Again, it's item 5 on page 1, item 13 and 14 on page 2, item 17 on page 3, and item 21 on page 3.
Voice Bhear it at 1:05:12
So I'm going to ask staff, when these things, when we know they're going to be removed, please advise the chair ahead of time, just so when you know, let me know.
Voice Ehear it at 1:05:21
Well, I will. When I learn, I just learned.
Voice Dhear it at 1:05:24
Gotcha. Okay. So that's it. We're done with that. Commissioners, you guys all get those? All right, let's move on to number six, please.
6. 10:00 a.m. - Presentation of a certificate to one (1) employee honored for their years of service.
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Voice Ahear it at 1:05:41
Item six, 10 a.m. presentation of certificate to one employee honored for their years of service.
Voice Bhear it at 1:05:49
you for that.
Voice Chear it at 1:05:50
you. And through the through the chair if you don't mind after the presentation if we could take five sure.
Voice Bhear it at 1:05:55
Are you handling this presentation?
Voice Chear it at 1:05:58
I am thank you
Voice Dhear it at 1:06:16
presentation. They removed the tape. So we have a five-year presentation for an employee. Of course, everybody, every employee with the county, you've heard me say this time and time again, their positions are so very important. This position is not an easy position. Five years of professionally really fighting with people to get money from them because of children. So she's with the Child Support Division, Rochelle Graf, five years. Come on up, Rochelle. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 1:07:26
Thank you, Commissioner. All right, let's take five minutes or so. Let's do six minutes, so 11-12.
Voice Bhear it at 1:07:45
Okay, we ready?
Voice Ehear it at 1:08:21
Serena, are we ready?
Voice Ehear it at 1:08:26
All right, let's bring this back in and go to number seven, please, manager.
7. 10:00 a.m. - For Possible Action - Public Hearing, discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt, or reject Nye County Bill No. 2026-10: A Bill proposing to adopt DA-26-1, a Development Agreement between Nye County and Energy Source Green Holding Inc. and Teslawatt, Inc. "Sarcobatus Solar"; and providing for the severability, constitutionality, and effective date thereof; and other matters properly relating thereto.
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Voice Ahear it at 1:08:34
Item 7, 10 a.m. timed item for possible action. Public hearing, discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt or reject Nye County Bill number 2026-10, a bill proposing to adopt DA-26-1, development agreement between Nye County and energy source Greenholding Inc. and Tesla Watt Inc.
Voice Bhear it at 1:08:59
Saccharata solar and providing for the severability constitutionality and effective date thereof and other matters properly relating thereto
Voice Chear it at 1:09:08
Thank you, manager. Good morning.
Voice Dhear it at 1:09:10
Excuse me, chair?
Voice Dhear it at 1:09:13
Chair, I have a disclosure, please.
Voice Dhear it at 1:09:16
As before, I am a former employee of the property owner, but not.
Voice Ehear it at 1:09:24
not affiliated with the project owner of this particular item, and therefore I will be participating.
Voice Chear it at 1:09:32
Thank you for that disclosure, sir. Good morning, Kiana.
Voice Fhear it at 1:09:35
Good morning, Commissioners. Kiana Medici, Q-I-A-N-A, M-E-D-I-C-I, Principal Planner, Planning Department. As stated, this is the...
Voice Ghear it at 1:09:48
Proposed Development Agreement between Nye County and the Energy Source Greenholdings and TESLA lot for the Sarcabata solar project. The preliminary development plan for solar 25-1 was approved during the January 21st, 2026 meeting by the Board of County Commissioners. The project includes a 244 megawatt solar energy facility comprised of both fixed and sun-tracking solar arrays located on two parcels totaling approximately 800 acres.
Voice Dhear it at 1:10:23
They're yelling they can't hear you.
Voice Ghear it at 1:10:28
Yet the project includes a 244 megawatt solar energy facility comprised of both fixed and sun tracking solar arrays located on two parcels totaling approximately 800 acres. The item after this one is the review and hopefully approval for the final development plan itself. We separated the two out, but those two kind of run together.
Voice Ahear it at 1:10:55
So DA, should we be opening these together, do you think, or can we manage?
Voice Bhear it at 1:10:59
You can open them together.
8. 10:00 a.m. – For Possible Action – Public Hearing, discussion, and deliberation on the approval of the Final Development Plan for the "Sarcobatus Solar Project" comprised of both fixed and sun tracking solar arrays, located on two parcels totaling approximately 800-acres of private land located at 95150 US Highway 95, Beatty, NV and 94871 US Highway 95, Beatty, NV. Assessor's Parcel Numbers 018-501-05 and 018-501-06. Sparks, LLC - Property Owner. Sergey Benke, CEO, TeslaSolar, LLC - Applicant. (These items are final action by the Board of County Commissioners, unless appealed to the District Court.)
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Voice Ahear it at 1:11:02
Sir, hold tight, Keanu. Manager, let's open up a eight two, please. Two birds, one stone.
Voice Bhear it at 1:11:07
Item eight for possible action. Public hearing, discussion, and deliberation on the approval of the final development plan for the Sacrovada solar project comprised of both fixed and sun tracking solar arrays located on two parcels totaling approximately 800 acres of private land located at 95150 US Highway 95, Beatty, Nevada and 94871 US Highway 95, Beatty, Nevada. Assessors parcel number 018501Dash05 and 06SparksLLC, property owner, Sergei Benke, CEO, Tesla Solar LLC applicant.
Voice Ahear it at 1:11:53
Thank you for that, Commissioner Jabbourg. Do you need to do another? Yes.
Voice Chear it at 1:11:57
Yes. Thank you, Chair. I'm going to give the same disclosure as I did for number seven on number eight.
Voice Ahear it at 1:12:04
Thank you. Thank you very much. Kiana, do you want to add anything on number eight? Sure.
Voice Dhear it at 1:12:10
Let's see. Pursuant to Nye County code seventeen ten, zero nine zero, the approval process, all tier one projects subject to this section shall be considered at two public hearings before the BOCC and shall comply with all requirements of this title. The first was the 01/21/2026 Board of County Commissioners meeting where the preliminary development plan was approved by the commission. This counts as the second public hearing, and this item is for the final development plan.
Voice Ahear it at 1:12:47
Thank you for that. All right. So let's open public comment at this time, please. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 1:12:59
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 1:13:05
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. Well, all the commissioners must realize that you live in this community, how adamantly opposed the people in Peronc are against any solar projects this large, any of them. Beatty, they have a a town board, and the last I heard from town boards was the one in Tonopah, and Joni Easley called in saying they wanted solar. So the moratorium on solar projects was listed. But we need to have a moratorium for Peron and for any town that doesn't want them. Their town boards can declare it if I'm not mistaken. But this is a very large project, and Beatty is a pretty small community. It would be overpowering for them to have this kind of apparatus, I call it, in their area. But I don't care where it is. It's just one step closer to the inside like a creepy little virus. You take one step, then you take another step. And before you know it, they're everywhere along with the data centers. But I oppose this, and I appreciate you allowing us to speak after these items. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 1:14:50
Thank you, Amy. Go ahead, Dwight.
Voice Ghear it at 1:14:54
Dwight Lilly, l I l l y. Tonopah and Beatty, I don't have a problem with the people there having large scale solar. But what my concern is on this particular development agreement, it would be somewhat precedent setting if other development agreements for large scale solar came into our county. And I don't see any provisions that in the event the project was abandoned in the future of any removal of the solar panels, if they happen to be damaged by some type of natural event like hail or windstorms and that. This has happened across the country where projects have been destroyed because of all the environment, and then the people get left. In this case, it would be 1,600 acres of solar panels. Would that be mean that we would have that on our back staff to pick up the tab of cleaning that mess up out there? So I would hope if this is a final development agreement that you have a provision in there that in the event this is shut down for any reason whatsoever cause we had one solar project up there that got shut down up around the Tonopon area, that all the material was removed from the land and it was returned back to its natural state. And I don't see that in the development agreement. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Anthony.
Voice Hhear it at 1:16:15
Anthony Greco, GRECO. I don't approve of any large solar projects. And if the world worked perfect and they got twenty eight years out of it, they should have a bond for twenty eight years from now to take these solar panels out of here and dispose of them properly. If they don't have a bond to protect us in twenty eight to thirty years, I wouldn't do it. Thank you for that, and I don't disagree. Come on down, Leah.
Voice Ihear it at 1:16:47
Leah Aldridge, a l d r I d g e. I'm definitely against this. I oppose it in every way. Let's connect the dots, people. We need all this extra power to power the data centers after they suck our electric grid dry. This is where it's all going. So, no, I'm not for this at all. There are plans in Nevada for 70 data centers statewide. 70. Wow. Seven here in Nye County, two that we know about that we found out about recently. So that's where it's all going. No. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 1:17:24
Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 1:17:30
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 1:17:37
Florisiewich, b o r y s e w I c h. Again, I had sent a 10 page document to every one of you commissioners explaining the agreement is flawed. There is so much missing stuff out of it that if we were to agree to this, maybe we should be slapped a size ahead. They refer to old projects that we've had and other maps. They talk about screening, but then my question is, does the screening continue along US 95? What about the highway? It's 10 pages. Not a single one of you guys have looked at what I wrote and responded. It's like, what is this gonna happen if I get on the the board and I write something? Nobody's gonna respond? This is ridiculous. This agreement is flawed. You guys need to look at it. You cannot approve it, and it needs to be thrown out, basically. I mean, this company, Ativan, that got in there, you know, they came in wanting all kinds of special permissions to do things. And when they got them, then they pushed for more, and now they're part of this project. I think that they they need to go away. I don't like Ativan at all. So there's all kinds of problems. There's issues with permits in here. There's issues with start up. What are we gonna are we gonna hire people? Just all kinds. Can someone please read what I wrote and respond? Or I hopefully, you just denied this today. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 1:19:33
Thank you, Beth. Go ahead, Linda. Linda Clark, CLARK.
Voice Jhear it at 1:19:38
Well, I've been here almost seven years. Since I've been here, we've been fighting solar. No one wants it, but yet we keep getting it. Why? Why can't someone just say, you know that big n o? No. Okay. This is someone's private property and they wanna sell it and make it killing. Yeah. Killing. They're killing us. So why do we do things like this? It's close to California border. Well, it's not far. So why don't we just ship it over there? Why do we get everything here in Nye County and our responsibility to clean up, take care of, hassle, fight with when no one wants it? It doesn't make any sense to me. We have no say, no control over what goes on in this county. Everybody just runs over us. And I've said that many times. You people know it, and we're tired of it. Say no and keep it no.
Voice Ahear it at 1:20:32
Thank you for that. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 1:20:38
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 1:20:44
William Bryson, a r r o y o b y I n g t o n. I'm a Beatty local, and I want to to just say, like, I do believe that Beatty wants to see renewable energy come to our town. However, large solar farms are a concern. Many of the commenters already have made really good points. I just wanted to point out, like, for example, Greenlink with them doing their their power line, they've already disrupted the topsoil a lot. We've already had two brownout warnings on out on our highway, I believe, which we live in the desert. I understand that we get these dust storms anyway, but having these large salt solar farms are really gonna continue to disrupt the land out here, and it's going to make it bad for our air quality and just kind of the way of life out here. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, sir.
Voice Lhear it at 1:21:43
Kenyon Salzer, s a l z e r. Got a question. What are these solar farms for, and who are they gonna benefit? Are they gonna benefit the people, the businesses here? Are they gonna lower my electricity? Are they gonna stop the electricity for the businesses so they don't have to pay anymore? Who's it for? Anybody know?
Voice Ahear it at 1:22:04
I can't I can't answer while you're speaking.
Voice Lhear it at 1:22:11
Okay. I'm done. Can you answer it?
Voice Ahear it at 1:22:16
Do you know the answer to this? Thank you for your comment. Can't answer it. Come on down.
Voice Mhear it at 1:22:30
Hi. Susie Hertz, h e r t z. My concern about this project, although it's not in our front yard or our immediate backyard, is the scope of the project itself and that it lay on private property. I haven't been able to read the full agreement, so I may be talking out of place. However, my concern as a citizen of the region is what happens on the back end of this agreement as has been stated. Number two is what happens if this property owner decides to sell their property or abandons their property or abandons any of the activities and the equipment on the property. As a, solar power owner myself, rooftop at my home, the solar company who installed our system went out of business and went bankrupt. So this is a common activity and a common result of solar actions and with 1,600 acres, it's a massive problem as stated earlier. So I think these issues need to be addressed, and I think that we need to look at the zoning, the ordinances, and however these deals come together to protect the citizenry rather than to promote the owners of the property and the owners of the projects. They offer, benefits to us and we don't get benefits. And, of course, we all know this clearly is not power for Beatty. It's power for the grid. So why are we supporting the grid instead of supporting our citizens?
Voice Ahear it at 1:24:32
Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 1:24:38
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Nhear it at 1:24:43
Bruce Johnson, j o h n s o n, and God bless that lady that just spoke and her last comment there. That's exactly what's happening. And, you know, this was all designed. I have a in my hand, a July, August 2011 issue number five, Front Life Magazine. Bright future solar power is on the way. Yeah. And and when you open it up, it talks about keeping people's power rates stable. Is there anybody out there that can attest that their power rates have been stable since 2011? I don't think so. So, anyway, I'm gonna move on from that. Before discussing the benefits drawbacks any other drawbacks to this project, I wanna I wanna ask the board to address one threshold question on what constitutional authority this is in the Nye County based this proposed development agreement. The agenda states this bill provides for the constitutionality of the agreement. Those were words that were actually in it, I do believe. So this is a significant statement. Constitutionality is not established merely by including the word in a bill. It must rest upon lawful authority. A county code cannot create powers that were never delegated. Ordinances prescribe procedure. They do not themselves create constitutional authority. Therefore, I respectfully ask the board to identify on the record the constitutional and statutory source of its authority to enter this agreement and explain the limits of that authority. As we've discussed before, authority proceeds action before public policy is debated. The source of the power being exercised should be identified. If the board cannot clearly identify the constitutional foundation for this action, then the public deserves to know why the the agreement is being presented as constitutional. I respectfully request that the constitutional analysis supporting this agreement be made part of the public record before any vote is taken. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 1:26:48
Thank you for that. Come on down and parem, Deborah.
Voice Ohear it at 1:27:01
And then would you spell your last name for me? Oh, yeah. Thanks. How do I forget that every time? A
Voice Ahear it at 1:27:06
lot of people do.
Voice Ohear it at 1:27:08
Deborah Thomas, t h o m a s. The only thing that would make sense is if the people in Beggie really wanted it. I mean, they'd have to really want it and really need it to keep their community going. But I that would be the only reason I can see putting all the that solar power there and not putting it to use in Nye County. Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 1:27:37
Come on down and prompt, sir.
Voice Phear it at 1:27:42
Tom Boatman, B O A T M A N. As as miss Heard said, Beatty's not my backyard. People I think a lot of people think that it doesn't affect them, that it's never gone they don't worry about these things until it comes to their backyard. But when it does, then they panic and they throw their arms up and they don't know what to do. And people we gotta stick up for each other. We're all neighbors. We're all in this together, and it's not gonna get any better if we just let this stuff fly all around us. Let's let's stand up. Let's make an example. Let's let's set a standard.
Voice Ahear it at 1:28:17
Thank you. Thank you, sir. Come on down, Tammy.
Voice Qhear it at 1:28:25
Tammy Pittman, p I t m a n. Good morning. Good morning. Yes. Still morning. Ugh. Wanted to talk about a provision that seems to have backfired on the large solar project that's on Tocopa Road. They relocated the tortoise. Did you know that the tortoise were sent to another location and they were decimated by badgers? Yes. And by the way, they only get they take the tortoise that are above a certain size. The smaller ones, we'll just let them fend for themselves and and get run over by vehicles, etcetera. So they need to do something to protect our desert tortoise. That's not a population that comes back easily. And then somebody else mentioned the crust being disturbed and all of the brownouts that we get because of the wind. That's another thing they have to decide. Peggy's gonna have it. They're actually talking about doing that another solar project here, extending right next to the solar project on Takopa Road. We've had haboobs, multiple haboobs since that was happened, whereas the crust that was there has been disturbed, and so now we get twice as bad. So we have to think about that. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 1:29:48
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Rhear it at 1:29:53
Morning, mister Herman Lewis, l e w I s. Everybody knows all the negatives, the environmental disaster, the use of water, the ugliness. I mean, if they're gonna put it somewhere, put it out in the middle of nowhere where there's nobody around. The power will obviously go to the Gritty, California. It's not gonna benefit us. I think that these developers think that they're gonna be able to pay off commissioners, staff, people within my county. I I don't think that's possible. I don't think any of you there will take payoffs. I really don't. It's not just because the the light is shining on you and everybody's watching. I don't think you'll do that. I think you are gonna gonna, vote for the people, which is no solar. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, sir.
Voice Shear it at 1:30:48
My name is Dion Kimsel, k I m s e l. Just wanted to highlight, what the last caller said about the water. That is the main concern for me with these solar panels and data centers. It's gonna require a lot of water to clean these, and we already have a limited water supply that is over distributed. And, excuse me, I'm being told that I can't use water at certain times of the day to water plants and grow food. So I don't see how it's fair that a big company like these solar companies and data centers are allowed to do the same thing. Thank you. Thank you. Serena,
Voice Ahear it at 1:31:28
do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 1:31:32
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Thear it at 1:31:38
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. How's my volume and tone okay for you, chair?
Voice Ahear it at 1:31:46
It's good to go.
Voice Thear it at 1:31:49
Thank you. Thank you. And, wow, what a performance by mister Bruce Johnson. Way to hit it out of the park. I believe what he challenged was your subject matter jurisdiction. So I'd like to see that. And, folks, we are so close in recognizing that the people here in Nye County don't benefit, but the easiest way through fraud and deception is to figure out who benefits. It's obviously not us. We need to look deeper into this Avanti. We need to dig deeper, and there's a lot of NDAs in play that you don't see. It's a nondisclosure agreement. We need to start tracking how many each commissioner has with these DAs, and and it's a it's a easier journey. Granted, it's less traveled, but article one, section one of the Nevada constitution is front loaded and plagiarized in 35 states. Article one is a declaration of rights. Section one is an inalienable right to mankind.
Voice Ahear it at 1:32:49
Thank you all. Thank you. Go ahead, please, and Parham.
Voice Uhear it at 1:32:52
Thank you. Helene Williams, w I l l I a m s. I would ask that this board, any development project, any and all, must include the amount of water that they are going to use. These solar projects come here and they never state how much water that they're going to use. And they're going to use lots of it to clean their panels. They'll have no choice because there'd be so much sand like the haboobs, which are no fun. With that being said, all development agreements must include the amount of water use and the cleanup and abatement. There should be a bond on all of these solar projects, a million dollar bond plus for cleanup and abatement. A bond will make them behave a little better. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 1:33:52
Thank you. Come on down, Lorraine.
Voice Ohear it at 1:33:57
What do you know? I'm speaking about something other than zombie lots. Lorraine, g I l b e r t. I am concerned because there was no provision in here for our natural resources, our environmental protection, nor our health protections. As a utility challenge lot owner, I can't put solar on my property. Why is it that 1,600 acres of property, private property can't? Somebody talked about constitutionality. That is kind of a constitutionality quirk. I just wanna protect Nye County, and I don't wanna see a door opened in Beatty that then opens a door here for us too. So please just consider the environmental impact because once it's gone, it's gone. Please consider the health impacts because once our vulnerable population starts dying off because they can't breathe, they're gone. Once our turtles are gone, they don't come back. So we need to protect protect our environment, protect our people, and protect our health.
Voice Ahear it at 1:35:10
Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 1:35:15
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Vhear it at 1:35:20
Yes. Matt Sadler, s a d l e r. Look look, commissioners. We we went through this for for years now, years back, and I was afraid this can getting kicked down the road and eventually it's gonna keep resurfacing over and over and over again. You know, we we we elect new commissioners to make good decisions for us. It's not always by, you know, whether a certain small sampling of people in some other community in Nye County think it's good. At the end of the day, you guys know what's good. Your conscience will dictate what's good. Let's let's stop being the suckers of the entire West where everybody wants to dump their garbage, have their facilities, have their medical waste, everything everything under the sun dumped in Nye County. Time to just say no. Take a stand. Let this be an example. If it's not too late to turn to turn the page back, go ahead and and and vote no against all this. I'm all about obstructing all this nonsense. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 1:36:11
Thank you for that. Go ahead, Tony. Tony Hoverman,
Voice Whear it at 1:36:14
h o, v as in Victor, e r m a n. Okay. So this is another thing that takes a lot of water. This lady should not even be here. It should have not it shouldn't even gotten this far. So now we got MetaWaste, we got the AI center, and we have more solar coming out here. Solar creates a lot of the the the area around the solar is becomes a hell of a lot hotter. So what our commissioners are doing, basically, is selling us people out. They're gonna bring in all this revenue because they can't, seem to operate within a budget. They can't balance their budget. So they're gonna take on all these things that are gonna bring in money so that the town keeps, obtaining more money. It's just like a it's like a balloon. Eventually, it's gonna pop because you can't keep existing the way we're existing. And it's not fair to the people that live out here. I don't want anything else that's gonna suck the water the water out of my well. Oh, and, great water Great Basin Water Company was, as everyone knows, bought out by a Californian company. If you were at the well meeting last week, the rep from the new company was doing his dog and pony showed us. He didn't have any information. But, basically, yeah, it's happening. So those of you that are on city water, you just get ready, man, because your water bill is gonna go right through the roof, and there is not gonna be a damn thing you're gonna be able to do about it because California is gonna own city water. So I don't want any of this stuff. None of this stuff should have gotten to this point. You guys aren't working for us. I wanna know who's watching you guys because, obviously, no one's you're not no one's no one's watching over you because the people don't want it, and all this stuff keeps going down. This lady shouldn't be here. We shouldn't have gotten that far. And you're just ruining Parham. Parham's not a dump. Parham's not an opportunity for California to come in here. It's not. And it's not for the pitch of the people because not one person in this audience wants the solar, the meta waste, or the AI centers out here. Yet, everybody oh, you guys just seem to like yeah. We'll just put it on the back burner. Yeah. We'll just shove it under the rug and bring it out later when nobody's looking. And I bet you guys,
Voice Ahear it at 1:38:54
my life, that's what's gonna happen to us. What? You're gonna screw us over. To Serena, do we have anybody on the phone who isn't yelling?
Voice Ahear it at 1:39:05
Come on down, Diane.
Voice Lhear it at 1:39:10
Diane Southworth, s o u t h w o r t h. I was looking at this. I only have one question. It says on here, located on two parcels, totally approximately 800 acres. That's not 1,600.
Voice Ahear it at 1:39:25
Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else on the phone, please, Serena?
Voice Ehear it at 1:39:33
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Xhear it at 1:39:38
Good morning, commissioners. My name is Chris Lally, l a l l y. And please forgive me. I'm battling a cold here, but I'm speaking on in opposition to this item here, the sarco sarco sarco solar project. I just want to be clear, I'm not here to argue against every against solar energy in general, but I just think an 800 acre private solar project should receive final approval shouldn't receive final approval unless the county and the public all have clear written answers about the impacts here. And, you know, I understand it's not on basins 162. It's not planned for that, but still water is, as always, a major concern. I don't wanna overstate that, but, you know, that actually proves the larger point. Nye County has multiple stressed and sensitive groundwater basins, and water does not become a minor issue just because the project says it will have, quote, unquote, minimal needs or won't drill its own well. As other residents have spoken about, dust control still takes water, construction takes water, site maintenance creates impact. So if water is being trucked in, the public deserves to know from where, how much, how long, what basin or commute or community is ultimately carrying that this burden. You know? And this is all also about roads, emergency access, fire risk, long term maintenance, visual impacts, and decommissioning. So if this project is abandoned, damaged, undermaintained or becomes a problem years from now, Knight County should not be left holding the bank. I know the project is intended for on a piece of private land, but private land does not mean private consequences. A project of this size creates public impacts, and those impacts need to be addressed before approval and not after. So I'm wholeheartedly asking you to vote no today. And if the board is not willing to vote no, then at minimum, very minimum, continue this item until there are stronger protections in writing for water sourcing, best control road impacts, emergencies response, and, again, just decommissioning. Thank you for your time, and I implore you to listen to residents here on this issue.
Voice Ahear it at 1:41:51
Thank you for that. Come on up, Patricia.
Voice Yhear it at 1:41:56
Patricia Robb, ROBB. I just wanna say that I think it's really good that all of Nye County is coming together to speak for people that can't speak for themselves. I know for a fact with what I'm dealing with with a group of owners for the utility challenge lots, most of them live out of state. 10:00 at this time is not convenient for a lot of people to call in. Everything that everyone has said here is valid. It makes sense. And I know that it really should be up to the people what they want in their community. And to stand up for Beatty, I think is awesome because that is part of Nye County. We are the third largest county in the entire country, and nobody wants to see it turn into what we're turning it into otherwise.
Voice Ahear it at 1:42:46
And the fact is we're standing up for everybody with them. Guys wanna get through these items, we can't have outbursts, please. Let's be respectful to the speakers.
Voice Yhear it at 1:42:56
So just the matter of fact is, Beatty is like our brother or our sister, and so is Tonopah and everything within Nye County. We care about our county. We care about our town. So please listen to the people. They have very valid concerns and reasons why they feel the way they do. So thank you. Thank you. Serena, one more check,
Voice Ehear it at 1:43:25
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Zhear it at 1:43:29
Yes. This is Tim Bohannon, b o h a n n o n. The environment has been discussed a lot, the other concerns with water and infrastructure. I'm gonna focus in on the finance. Surprise. Right? The the question on finance, and and we had a change from a federal subsidy perspective with solar. Does that change the economics on this project and betterment of Nye County? You know, that's a question. That's something that needs to be disclosed, needs needs to be discussed, and needs to be aware of the people so they are aware of what that decision is. As far as the town of Beatty, I haven't heard much in this discussion of what their opinion is and how strong they are with that. You know, we have backup, but I'm I'm I've been looking for what kind of feedback are we getting there. Same feeling if it was up in Tonopah. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 1:44:34
Thank you. Come on down in Paramp, please.
Voice A2hear it at 1:44:40
Russ Meads, M E A D S. I just wanted to commend staff on this. So while I was listening to the comments, which are valid comments, however, I read through the development agreement that's actually proposed to be looked at today. Every one of these issues have been addressed in the development agreement, including a bond requirement, including environmental requirement. Water disclosures have all been made. This project does not tie into the grid. I have no dog in this fight. I don't know this project specifically. I just read the backup that was given to us to read and really appreciate that you guys have gone through that process of a special use permit process and a development agreement to address all of these concerns that we've heard here today that you have been responsible and have done that, and I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, sir, for being an educated and informed
Voice Ahear it at 1:45:38
speaker. Serena, one more time. Do we have anybody, please?
Voice Ehear it at 1:45:45
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Nhear it at 1:45:50
Paul Delacruz, d e l a c r u z. I just wanna know if you guys are aware that, you know, someday people are gonna quit coming out here to visit because there's nothing really to see but solar panels and data centers and meta waste. The horses will be gone. The racers will be gone. Are you prepared to not have tourism anymore here? Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Anyone else? One more time, please.
Voice B2hear it at 1:46:34
Jeanie King, k I n g. I agree with Helene. As far as water goes, We should have studies on everything that's gonna suck our water out of our basin. And Beatty has a river up there, I believe, and you really gotta be careful of taking their water and getting input from them. Secondly, who's the lady that's been standing here for the last twenty minutes? And is it appropriate for someone to stand by the podium? As a nurse, I'm sorry. When somebody was standing with a clipboard and I'm taking care of my patient.
Voice Dhear it at 1:47:14
I work here.
Voice B2hear it at 1:47:16
Oh, you work here? I work here. So that's what I She's she's
Voice Ahear it at 1:47:19
she's with the planning department.
Voice Ahear it at 1:47:22
Yeah. But still, it just She stood to the side so that we could let public speak. That's all. Because she's Provide her a chair?
Voice Ahear it at 1:47:33
Are we do we have are we do you got it, ma'am? No more callers. Chair. Closing public comment. Go ahead, Keona.
Voice Dhear it at 1:47:42
Thank you. A lot of the questions that were asked, through public comment can actually be answered if, you go through the backup for each item. Item seven, item eight Yeah. Have them broken down. I even went so far as to tell you how many pages are in the decommissioning report, so on and so forth. Other question, regarding it was, like, 1,600 acres. No. It's actually 800 acres. So one of them is it's a portion of a larger parcel. It's a 160 acres. So that added to the 600 and whatever, adds up to the 800. One of the first questions I recall hearing was that, wondering where the constitutionality comes in for development agreement. Actually, NRS, two seven eight, zero two zero five. That's an agreement with governing body concerning development of land. That is what we have a chapter in Nye County code that is, sixteen thirty two that is solely devoted to development agreements and the things that are required. Seventeen ten, which is the solar ordinance, that spells out all of the items that are required for the preliminary development plan, which was approved earlier this year. And then there's also a section of items that are for the final development plan, have been provided during the preliminary review, before a vote was made. There were a couple of things that, the board asked to clarify, with the final development plan. Those have also been included. So you basically have everything that we've been provided, forwarded over to you, and
Voice Ahear it at 1:49:29
that's And I just wanna point out that every single member of the public is privy to the same exact information that I am, and it's all right here in the backup. So we're required to sit around and read all of this stuff so that we know what the hell we're doing. You guys will have as much power through information as you wish if you just read it. Commissioners, do we have anything for Kiana? Commissioner Jabbour.
Voice Chear it at 1:50:05
Thank you, Chair. Well, I appreciate Kiana's response to some of the questions. And I just want to reiterate, it is correct. And I know sometimes we scan and we look at things and get things in it's inaccurate information. So it is 800 acres according to what's in the backup on both items seven and eight. This project is not connected to the grid. The folks that asked about this is a 30 mile distance north of Beatty in the middle of nowhere, different basin, as has already been explained. And as I've said before, BLM, for example, when that project came before us and the people came to us, whether it was via text, phone, visits, etcetera, BLM's criteria was to bury a solar panel five feet into the ground. And I vehemently objected to that, that if there was some type of solar project in Nye County, that those panels had to be removed and disposed of outside of Nye County. We didn't want them here. And we rejected a recycling solar company, if you remember that project that came in, from our neighbor of Silver Springs. And so I've said it before, and I'll say it again. We are not the land czars. This is private property. It is not connected to the grid. It's not going to affect California's power. It's not to benefit them. It's not to harm anybody in Beatty. To a different basin. I'm not sure if I mentioned that. And I will say this. The good people of Nye County throughout the county, We had a professional fight within the last four months, and it was in regards to the IPMC. And the common consensus was, Bruce, please fight for us. We have our rights. We're private property owners. We don't want government on our land. Keep them off. We don't want to be fined for this, that or the other. And of course, we have to be reasonable and still comply with NACs, NAS and NRSs and international building codes. That doesn't give a green light to ignore those. Not at all. So I didn't just fight by myself. All of the commissioners fought for you. And I'm speaking to the residents and taxpayers, which we are as well, of Nye County to eliminate this IPMC. And it was very difficult. It was hard. And here we are that and I appreciate. I've said it before. Whether I like what's said or not, I appreciate the feedback because all feedback is great feedback, not just good feedback. It's great feedback. But if I go down the list of everything that was said, a lot of the information is misinformation. It's inaccurate. And I apologize if perhaps you didn't read all of the backup or somebody just mentioned it to you and then the knee jerk reaction, we just went with it like a wildfire. So I don't know if you have any questions for me, Chair, but I
Voice Ahear it at 1:54:37
will yield turn back over to you. Thank you, Commissioner. I have no questions. And if there's nothing else, I'm ready for a motion if somebody's interested.
Voice Chear it at 1:54:54
I'm sorry, Chair. I missed that. There was some conversation
Voice Ahear it at 1:54:58
here. That's okay. That's okay. If there's nothing else, I'm ready for a motion if there is one.
Voice Chear it at 1:55:07
I will I will motion to approve as written on numbers seven and number eight.
Voice Ahear it at 1:55:14
Second. We have a motion on the floor and a second. All those in favor?
Voice Chear it at 1:55:19
Aye. Chukor is aye. Oskovichai.
Voice Ahear it at 1:55:21
That carries four with one absent. Thank you. Number nine, please.
9. 10:00 a.m. - For Possible Action - Public Hearing regarding the Fiscal Year (FY) 2027 Community Development Block Grant (CDBG): a. Overview of the FY27 CDBG program; b. Summary of Past Performance by Nye County with CDBG funding since 1982; and c. Invite the public to provide project ideas and input on past or potential projects.
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Item 09:10AM timed item for possible action, public hearing regarding the fiscal year twenty seven twenty twenty seven community development block grant, A, overview of the FY27 CDBG program, B, summary of past performance by Nye County with CDBG funding since 1982, and c, invite the public to provide project ideas and input on past or potential projects.
Voice Bhear it at 1:56:05
Thank you for that. Good afternoon,
Voice Chear it at 1:56:07
Stephanie. Sparely. Yeah. Good afternoon, commissioners. Stephanie Elliott, e l l I o t t. I am the Nye County contracts and grants manager. Today, we're kicking off the first of three, public hearings that we'll be discussing community development block grants or CDBG. Say that fast five times. And the community development block grants are mostly focused on infrastructure. So I have a short presentation, and then we can open it up for any sort of public comment. Any application that's submitted, to the state so we do go through, the State of Nevada Governor's Office of Economic Development, requires that the applications adhere to at least one of these three national objectives. So the funding for CDBG is funded through the housing and urban development through the federal state and then excuse me, through the federal's, administration, and then it's passed on to the state. The state will then allocate the funding throughout the state of Nevada. Nye County is actually a low income or moderate income county, where 53.54% of Nye County residents, live in households with their incomes at or below 80% of the area median income, which means that any sort of project within Nye County would qualify. There are two other areas here that also would qualify, with urgent community need needing to be, specifically approved by CDBG before we even start the application process. One of the, goals of having the meeting today is actually to discuss some of the prior projects that Nye County has completed. So in the backup and in the presentation, there's, you know, over $7,000,000 worth of activity that's occurred right here in Nye County since 1982. Most of these being infrastructure projects, and you'll note that in some cases, they were not always infrastructure projects. We do have active projects right now. We're, you can see here on the photo, that's actually the new concrete slab. We had gone out to bid for this, and it's being partially funded, for two new fuel tanks. What you see in the photo here are the old fuel tanks. We've got new fuel tanks in construction. Like, we are just waiting for the day to to get those installed onto the new pad. Really loved this photo because there's actually airplanes on the apron in in that background if you can see it. So that is an active project. We're getting ready to close out. The Parrant Fairgrounds Utilities project, we recently awarded a contract for the secondary well. The Carver's Arena revitalization, we've just completed the environmental assessment, and we'll be bringing this before the board. And then, we are have a an agenda item coming, regarding engineering, that was awarded, specifically again for the fairgrounds. Eligible activities for 2027, it's all infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure with a little economic development on top. The grants team was able to attend a conference for CDBG, which is required to apply for the grants. And, it was very interesting being a part of the allocation meeting and understanding a little bit more on how the money gets divvied up and chosen. So for instance, you saw on that last slide, we got a $75,000 grant. We asked for 600. So it's not guaranteed that we're always going to get the amount that we ask for. And eligible projects include mostly construction, and we're talking water systems, sewer systems, streets, roads, any sort of infrastructure project that would create jobs or retain jobs. Community planning is also interesting because, the fairgrounds recent grant is a planning project, and that's so that we can do an environmental assessment as well as some engineering. Up in GAVS, we've recently had to do a preliminary engineering report. So sometimes that's the starting point for these huge infrastructure projects, and CDBG can be used as a stepping stone for a larger project. If we do, have a project in place that may displace any households, there are certain conditions that Knight County would need to abide by to help those families. And the really important, slide here is our timeline. So online and you can see that there's a link here on our Nye County website. We do have preliminary applications available. I have a few in print as well if you need them. The deadline is excuse me, August 21, and that is a Friday. So those are gonna be received via email. If you have any trouble with that, please let us know. We can always accept a paper application and convert that for you. Applications are available for n t any Nye County department or any subentity. So any of our towns, any of our districts are eligible to apply. The applications are also open for any nonprofit or for profit, any sort of commercial business, any organization, as long as it's an infrastructure based project, but you must be registered in sam dot gov for Nye County to sponsor your individual business application. We'll be back before the board on September 15 to discuss the different applications that are available and see if you'd like to move forward with some of them, none of them, all of them. And the real critical piece is once we submit the applications you'd like to have move forward, CDBG from the state will then let us know which one of those would be considered eligible. At that time, we'll bring the eligible, projects forward on November 17. Again, all of these dates are pending, final decision dates on the meeting dates. And we just wanna make sure that when you do submit your application, you've got the timeline and proposed budget. The entire thing needs to be completed in its entirety. I did just pull up a a photo of the Nye County website. So when you go to Knight County and you hover over on the right hand side departments, you'll find finance. On the left hand side, you can see it's like the third one down, community development block grants. This is actually where you can go to send an email to our grant admin administrator, Stephanie Erga. There's some resources down at the bottom, including the preliminary application. There's also the community development block grant website for the state and then a link to the economic development strategies that Nye County has put in place. Again, that's also on our website. And that's really important because your project needs to kinda coincide with that economic plan. And, also, approximately $3,000,000 will be made available, and that's not for Nye County. That's for the entire state. So you can see why, it is a very competitive application process. You get a moment, please read, this really great quote that reminded me of just how Nye County residents are as well as the whole state. Thought it was interesting from mister James Nye, a governor of the territory of Nevada back in the eighteen hundreds. And then, just available to thank everybody, for your time, and we can open it up to the public for any sort of project ideas or if they had any concerns about past projects. Thank you. Thank you very much, Stephanie. Alright. Let's, see if we have any public comment on this item. Serena, do you have anybody for us, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:03:30
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 2:03:41
Okay. Come on down,
Voice Ehear it at 2:03:43
Mary Anne. Chair, I do have, Joe Westerlund here in Tonopah when you're ready. Thank you, commissioner. Go ahead,
Voice Bhear it at 2:03:52
Mary Anne. I forgot your name.
Voice Fhear it at 2:03:57
Mary Ann Hollis, h o l l I s. I've been following this grant funding for the six years that I've been here. I can recall, in when I first started to follow it that there were between six and eight applicants. And for whatever reason, the number kept dwindling, and some applications were rejected for paperwork or other issues. However, for the last well, going from 2016 to '20 six, ten years, four more than I've been here, eight of the projects, eight of those 16 have gone to the fairgrounds. The last round and I'd like to think I'm educated about this, commissioner Boscovich, but I'm, you know, I'm open to Stephanie correcting me, for a total of $2,000,000. And the last round was $700,000, almost it was the entire amount of the grant for a well. Now my point in in bringing these up is I I don't want anyone in the county to be discouraged in submitting a project when they look at the history of where the money's really going because of, an obvious position to influence where that money goes and who gets it. Having said that, this was just some of the research that I've been doing, hoping to have the fairgrounds ad hoc committee get some legs on it. It's been stalled. And after six weeks, I wanna know why the design build for half $1,000,000 has not been produced yet. Does it even exist? I asked about it before. Does it even exist? What's the holdup? We've been promised it.
Voice Ghear it at 2:06:09
Beth and I were in a meeting with commissioner Strickland,
Voice Fhear it at 2:06:12
mister Wagner, and commissioner Koenig. And she said, I'll get it for you. That was, like, what, two months ago? And I've been through four sources trying to get it. So I'm just hoping that this pattern of money going to the fairgrounds has some oversight in it other than how the commissioners delegate what they where they want that money to go to. There needs to be some other entity, not just the applicant, but some other entity to have an oversight besides what you Thank you. Decide to do. Thank you. Sabrina, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:07:01
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Hhear it at 2:07:08
Julio Diaz. Last name, d I e z. Thank you, commissioners, for hearing me out. My name is pastor Julio Diaz. I'm with Divine Church here in Perham, And I'd like to mention that we're a little bit later on the agenda item number 26, but one project that since we're talking about grants, one project I would like to mention is the development of our church owned land for youth recreation and soccer field space. We we currently have This is sir.
Voice Bhear it at 2:07:41
Sir. Sir. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but you gotta wait till your item. Okay? We'll get in trouble if we if we commingle them. Oh, okay. Okay. So we can talk about the grant? Or maybe we can do to talk your item. Is my thing? Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Thank thank you very much, and I apologize. Come on over, Tammy. I'm sorry, Joe. I got to do Joe first. I'm so sorry. Go ahead, Joe.
Voice Ihear it at 2:08:10
Thank you. Joe Westerland, Tonopah Town Manager. Last name is W E S T E R L U N D. And the town of Tonopah and Tonopah Public Utilities has Shaw Engineering as our engineer of record. We had them conduct a professional engineering report for our storage tanks in town. We have known for a while that we are close to not having enough storage to be required that is required by the state of Nevada. And so we did a PER for storage tanks, and it came up with three different scenarios. We took the cheapest of the three scenarios, which would require us to install a 500,000 gallon tank up on the Ararat Mountain, where we currently have two five hundred thousand gallon tanks. We worked with the state revolving fund and we have been approved for $2,500,000 on a project that is going to cost us $3,195,472.32 and that's an engineer's estimate. We've been trying to bridge the gap on that for about three months, figuring out how we were going to get the funding for it. And we're still trying to work on how we're going to do it, but I would like to put this in as one of the projects that we're requesting $695,472.32 to bridge the gap with state revolving fund to build and install the 500,000 gallon tank on the Ararat Mountain.
Voice Bhear it at 2:09:49
Thank thank you, Joe. Come on up, Tammy. Thank you.
Voice Fhear it at 2:09:54
Tammy Pittman, t I t m a n. So I just wanted the public to be aware that we got $2,000,000 to put in a well, but that area is actually under the Great Basin service area and didn't need a well at all. The county sued Great Basin to be able to put in a well, so we could have had water service without that. Just want y'all to know.
Voice Bhear it at 2:10:22
Thank you, Tammy. Sorry. Come on down, Deborah. Caught me in mid yawn.
Voice Jhear it at 2:10:39
Deborah Thomas, t h o m a s. I I'm wondering if we could get a grant to help with the zombie lots and getting water to those zombie lots where they could put, yeah, put lots together.
Voice Jhear it at 2:11:04
I don't necessarily wanna put them together, but they need they need to be have an area where a well could be built and water could be stored and where if they were to put solar on their buildings, they'd be able to to they'd be able to have electricity, and they'd be able to have water as well. I think that would be a really good thing for these people.
Voice Bhear it at 2:11:43
Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:11:54
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 2:11:59
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. So here's my knee jerk reaction. I was looking at the chart that Stephanie was reading from, and I happen to see slums in my county. See what? Where in the heck are they? I had no idea we had a slum area. We had a lot of homeless people in a park. Now they're in the other park. But I think a really good idea. Speaking of the other park, Ian Dimlich, there maybe somebody can put a block grant together for a splash pad over there because there's a lot of summer activity where kids go there to play ball or the little ones go to play and, you know, scorch themselves on some of that as the slides and the swings. So a little splash pad over there might be something nice for the whole community if that can be done on one of these block grants. But, man, there's a lot of ideas. That's just mine. Thanks.
Voice Bhear it at 2:13:09
Thank you. Did she say slums?
Voice Lhear it at 2:13:12
Slum? Go ahead, Dwight. Dwight Lee, l I l l y. I think that the way to spend this money would be for people that need help. You know, we have a fairground project that was mentioned. We don't even know what the fairground project is. There's been $500,000 spent on a plan, and nobody seems to know what the plan is, or at least nobody disclosed it. So why don't we turn the attention to people? We need transportation between Pahrump and Las Vegas, where people who need to go to doctor's appointments or other emergency services that can no longer drive. Or how about people whose power had been threatened or shut off in the heat of the summer this year because they did not have the money to pay for it? Or some type of indigent medical care have a project for that. How about a project, a community grant project for the people rather than for storage tanks or something else, some infrastructure that doesn't help? It was mentioned in the presentation how the county is full of people that are below the poverty level, the income level, that can't really pave the services. I think we need to turn the grants towards the people. Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 2:14:26
Come on up Linda.
Voice Mhear it at 2:14:32
Linda Clark, CLARK. I think it's great that we wanna do all these wonderful things in this town. And we have all this grant money that we can do it for. Unfortunately, the only thing we see is money being spent on a fairgrounds that nobody wants. So we put wells in, we're gonna put grass in, or we're gonna put grass in that we have to pay for the water when we have no water because they don't wanna spend the money on artificial grass, which I don't know which one cost more. It would be interesting to see a budget on that. Grass versus not grass. Water and no water. Those are things that kinda bug me. The other thing that is interesting is we have streets. Schools we're gonna be needing. We're gonna be needing shopping. We know that. We need streets that get people around instead of everything on two main streets, a highway one of them and Nance And Homestead. Okay. They're all nice streets, but they're not gonna accommodate another five to 10,000 houses that you guys wanna put in here, and we have no infrastructure to cover it all. So where do we stop and say, this is more important than this is more important. How do we decide that? We don't get to. You guys always do it for us. We can come up here and speak our whole heads off just like we did on this solar stuff. You don't listen to us. Okay. Maybe we missed a few little tidbits here and there. So what? The bottom line is the people don't want it, and you keep doing it anyway. So I don't even know why we have these meetings when you give us the chance to talk when you don't listen to us. I know you don't wanna listen to me, and I don't care whether you listen to me or not. But you got a whole audience out here and a whole town that try to communicate. And the other problem we have is the time frame. We know and you know specifically, people can't come to all these meetings because of the hours you operate it. And they wanna go home. And then what do you do? They come here to listen to something and you change the agenda so they can't even hear that or talk about it. So they go home. Think about that.
Voice Bhear it at 2:16:46
Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please? We can stop the meeting or we can continue.
Voice Dhear it at 2:16:53
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Nhear it at 2:16:59
Dess Borissewich, d o r y s e w I c h. My first thing is commissioner, Boscovich and DA. I have four projects that I wanna talk about, so I hope I can have additional minute or two, because you guys are asking for input. So you said no?
Voice Bhear it at 2:17:20
Follow-up with Stephanie, please. Okay.
Voice Nhear it at 2:17:24
Okay. Well, here's the first thing is that the Cowboy Code Coalition Foundation is proposing the creation of the Nye County Property Assistance Program funded through a com the CDBG grant. It will provide a practical solution for residents who are elderly, disabled, veterans, low income, or un otherwise unable to clean up their properties or correct code issues. Rather than relying on enforcement, the program would provide supervised employees, trained volunteers, equipment, and community partnership to help residents remove debris, address hazardous conditions, demolish unsafe structures, remove conics containers, or whatever else needs to be done, including getting permits. The program would be administrated by a nonprofit subsidy of the Cowboy Code Coalition Foundation. The county's role would be to limited to receiving the grant reports and monitoring the use of grant funds. We would send we would get the code violations and or people that want their property cleaned up request, then we would open some offices here in town and other parts of Nye County, and we would send out volunteers who are volunteering to help clean up these properties at no cost to the residents. This whole thing will probably entail about 30 people that we can hire and pay if we get this grant. We're at asking for about $935 for the first year to pay for the people, equipment, and everything else having to do with that. That way, code compliance can stop being called, and that way, they can check on other things that that or we can maybe eliminate them. That's the first thing. The other one is for the animal shelter. They have already put in a request to the governor not the governor, to our horse bird and asked him for money to put in the epoxy in the kennels. And if they and usually, the money that he has gets divvied up by a into a whole bunch of different projects. So if they don't get all the money, then we would like to
Voice Bhear it at 2:20:00
get apply for this so that we can go ahead and help them. Thank you, Beth. Follow-up though with Stephanie, would you please? She would be happy to hear from you. Come on up, Patricia.
Voice Ghear it at 2:20:16
Patricia Rubb, ROBB. Growing pains. Yes. Okay. We'll get past all of this somehow. Everything's gonna work out fine. I just know it. Now over a year and a half ago when I started this whole thing with the utility challenge lots, I actually paid a private grant writer to seek out and find funding in order to help with infrastructure for a sewer line to an area that has water connection but no sewer lines. I figured if we can at least help one area, that's better than ignoring them all. I do know that with a lot of the utility challenge lots, getting water sewer lines out there is, like, probably next to impossible. They're way too expensive. But for those areas that do have water lines but no sewer, after I found a grant, granted it was only for a million dollars, but I figured something's better than nothing. Sean Ashcraft with Great Basin Water Company said, no. We cannot accept it due to rule nine. Rule nine bars them from accepting any grants. Yet I had received all the information necessary from them because they were all for it until the grant happened. I don't think they thought that I was going to make it happen. Other than that, I have also presented a list of possible grant places to Stephanie at one time and I've also asked about that. But it all seems to have kind of been ignored. Now I know Great Basin Water Company will not disclose where all of these lines are. They say for security reasons, but I can tell you right now that some of those areas are over here off of Bedrock Street, Canyon Street, Dapple Street, Eastwind Street, and Feather Street. They all have water lines but no sewer to them. So if we can at least help one area any way possible with a grant, that would be awesome to be able to allow those people to build on their land. Now as far as the utility challenge lots that cannot get that, we're not asking anybody for any money. The owners are taking responsibility for that. So that won't cost anyone. It will only help bring benefits to the town and prosperity where needed. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 2:22:43
Thank you, Patricia. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:22:49
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ohear it at 2:22:54
Hello, commissioner. It's Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. Can you hear me okay? Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I was reading this clear. When it came to funding since 1982, so you're soliciting a performance evaluation. Correct? Did you need to refer to counsel?
Voice Bhear it at 2:23:23
We're not answering your question during your time, sir.
Voice Ohear it at 2:23:28
Oh, I gotcha. I gotcha. It's funny because I couldn't even say where you were calling in last time, last meeting. But anyhow, when it comes to state and federal funds that you're responsible for monitoring these block grants, I'm pretty sure y'all are aware of that. Pretty much all of them come with civil rights protection. Now, basically, is that subject your when we're challenging constitutionality, you're basically saying it's subject to county rules, ordinance, and or NRSs. Is that correct? That's your belief an NRS, a ordinance, or accounting rule can override the civil rights of a grant block that's state and federally funded? That's known as a per se crime. That'd be a violation of article one section 10 where you pay these officials to oppress. The easiest way to get your feet wet when it comes to fraud, waste, and abuse is through these contract blocks. Are you all ready for the right to practice? We have a right to practice. Let's go. What are you scared about? Show me. If we can't do it right, let's run it back. Let's take a defensive mindset. I don't know if it's the indoctrination or it's just a psychological disease that you're dealing with, but we're talking about your service to the people. Wake up and snap out of it, tough guy. I've heard you threaten many people over here when it comes to the expression of the First Amendment. Your rules, your ordinances don't supersede the First Amendment nor the protections. I don't care if you got a policy man running around as the sheriff and you got a DA that's failing their schools and our commissioners as well as the people. Wake up, people. Where are the ledgers when it comes to Esmeralda County? Where are those block grants? Who's receiving those? I have never heard anything about that. Child support? Wanna talk about that? DPS? The constitutionality? It doesn't end and begin with an NRS, people. Wake up. Thank you all.
Voice Bhear it at 2:25:35
Serena, do we have anybody else on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:25:40
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Phear it at 2:25:48
Oh, is that me? Alright. Can you hear me?
Voice Bhear it at 2:25:52
Oh my god.
Voice Phear it at 2:25:56
Okay. Well, if you can hear me, then I'm gonna keep going. Good afternoon, commissioners. My name is Chris Lally. Once again, l a l l y. I just wanted one last comment here because it involves our District District 5 as an unincorporated community. Pahrump obviously relies heavily on county level decisions and grant opportunities like the one we're we're talking about here. I appreciate that these grants can be used for important public needs in a county like ours. Obviously, we really need them. But my main concern is echoing what Mary Anne said about transparency and priorities. From what I can see from that presentation and what we've seen over the years here, a significant number or amount CDBG funding in recent years has gone directly towards from Fairgrounds project. And whether someone supports that specific project or not, I think residents deserve a clear explanation of how that became such a high priority and what other projects were considered and how much public input was gathered before continuing direct grant money towards that project. Obviously, our township and the county at large have real needs, like roads, water planning, public safety, senior services, accessibility, health care access, basic infrastructure, matter to our residents. And so when grant money, this precious grant money is available, people should be able to clearly see how projects are chosen and why one is being prioritized over another. I'm not here to say that every fairgrounds expense was wrong or improper. It's not my point at all. My point is just that grant money is still public money, and residents should not have to piece together after the fact where it went, what it accomplished, and who actually benefited. So I'm asking you guys going forward, I would like to see, and I'm sure others would agree, we'd like to see more plain English breakdown of past CDEG spending along with a clear comparison of future project ideas. You know, we just wanna we wanna see the costs, guys. We wanna see the public benefits because all I hear a lot of it online is a lot of negativity, and we never hear the benefits. So you're phenomenal projects that benefit the community. I mean, you guys should be bragging about them publicly and showing us numbers. You know? Because a lot of folks fill in information when they are not told information, and that's the problem. So we need to learn we need to be shown more information about how each project ranks against other community needs. And if these grants are meant to serve the public, which they obviously are, then the public should have a meaningful goal in deciding where they go. That's my opinion. Thank you very much. Thank you for that, sir.
Voice Bhear it at 2:28:35
Serena, do we have anybody else, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:28:39
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Qhear it at 2:28:44
Good afternoon, commissioners. Bruce Johnson, g o h n s o n. And, mister Garcia, well said. Commissioners, when he talks about NRS and statutory versus constitutional, y'all I don't know if y'all think that everything that is statutory is lawful. There's a difference between being lawful and being legal. So as you consider the community development block grant program, I ask the board to begin with a foundational question. What constitutional and statutory authority governs the acceptance, administration, and conditions attached to those federal funds? Federal grants often come over requirements reporting obligations and policy conditions. The public has a right to understand not only the benefits of accepting grant money, but also the obligations and commitments that accompany them. Cincinnati County has participated in this program since 1982. I encourage the board to provide a transparent accounting of its long term performance, what measurable public benefits have been achieved, what continuing obligations remain, where any local policies or priorities changed as a condition of receiving these funds, As fiduciaries of the public trust, transparency requires more than reporting dollars received. It requires explaining the legal authority, the conditions accepted, and the long term impact on the people of Nye County. I respectfully ask those questions be answered on the record before additional projects are considered. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 2:30:31
Thank you for that. Serena, anybody else, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:30:36
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Rhear it at 2:30:41
Arroyo Byngin, a r r o y o b y I n g t o n. I am the administrative manager for Beatty General Improvement District, and I just wanna quickly say thank you for continuing to participate in this grant program because I do believe that disadvantaged communities like Beatty, Nye County, we need these opportunities to receive help to pursue these larger projects in a relative time frame. As some of you guys know, the AngloGold Ashanti mine is projecting a population increase here in Beatty. And if any of you have traveled here, you will know that Beatty doesn't have many opportunities for youth in our community to participate in any activities. We are our board has purchased playground equipment this last year, and this fiscal year, we're going to be pursuing the installation. They paid just over a $195,000 for the playground equipment, and we're expecting the installation cost to be around a 150 to $250,000. It majorly depends on whether or not the cooperative contract will be approved by the district attorney after reviewing it. Otherwise, we're gonna have to go out to bid. So our entity and our community, they have recognized the immense need for additional recreational opportunities in our community. Beatty Town Advisory Board, they contributed up to 25% of the equipment costs during fiscal year twenty six, and AngloGold Ashanti has approved to do the demolition and prep work for the site, which was estimated around 38,000. So I would hope that Nye County would consider our capital projects for this grant to help alleviate the cost on our small entity. And then I have one other project that we could probably use help for funding if it hits the criteria for the grant. Our swimming pool has not been opened this season. We have a problem with our filter because it has been spewing sand back into the pool. So it's been incredibly difficult to find someone to maintenance our filter due to it's almost twenty years old. It's a old fan filter, and it needs to be updated. So the board has expressed interest in updating our pool filter to the same system that Pahrump's pool has. So I would hope that would also be a consideration. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 2:33:06
Thank you for that. Serena, do we have anybody else, please?
Voice Chear it at 2:33:11
We're gonna close public. One moment, chair. I do have a public comment I need to read into the record. Okay. Go right ahead. And she was unable to attend. Her name is Cheryl Butler Adams, b u t l e r a d a m s. She is the president of the Pleasant Valley Homeowners Association, and she did write to us, a few weeks ago. So on behalf of Pleasant Valley Homeowners Association, I respectfully request that Nye County consider including the restoration of the red curbs within our subdivision as a project for community development block grant funding or any other available public infrastructure grant. For more than three years, our community has requested that the faded red curbs throughout Pleasant Valley be repainted. We've been advised that the project remains on a waiting list due to limited road maintenance funding. The red curbs within our subdivision are not cosmetic. They were established to protect fire hydrants, intersections, and emergency access routes. Their purpose is to ensure that fire apparatus, ambulances, and law enforcement vehicles have unobstructed access during emergencies. Over time, the paint has deteriorated to the point that many of the red zones are difficult to identify. As a result, vehicles routinely park in these areas, creating safety concerns and making enforcement more difficult. Pleasant Valley is a community of approximately 98 homes, and the residents pay the same county property taxes as every other Nye County taxpayer. We understand the financial challenges facing the road maintenance department and appreciate the work they perform with limited resources. However, public safety improvements such as maintaining designated emergency access zone should remain priority. Because these are county maintained roads, we respectfully request that Nye County submit this project as part of its community development block grant program or pursue any other available state or federal funding that could assist in restoring these critical safety markings. This project directly supports public safety by preserving emergency vehicle access, improving visibility of designated no parking zones, enhancing compliance with fire safety requirements, protecting residents, visitors, and first responders. The Pleasant Valley HOA stands ready to assist the county by providing photographs, documentation, community input, and any additional information needed to support the request. We appreciate your consideration and hope the county will partner with our community to complete this long overdue public public safety improvement. Again, that was Cheryl Butler Adams.
Voice Ehear it at 2:35:31
Thank you for that. And I actually closed public, but I'll let you go if you're fairly quick, Susie, please.
Voice Shear it at 2:35:41
I appreciate that. Susie Hertz, h e r t z. It just seems apparent to me that there are many projects that have been brought up in this brief amount of time that fit into what what, Stephanie was calling infrastructure, that the community has legitimate need and request for. And none of them fell under fixing or developing something for the fairgrounds. So my point is that I'd really appreciate it. We, as citizens, would really appreciate that these other issues be looked at on equal or or better footing than what's going on with the fairgrounds because that's what the people are asking for.
Voice Bhear it at 2:36:32
Thank you. Thank you. Alright. We're gonna close that out and go to commissioners, do you have anything for Stephanie? There's really no action we're taking on this. Yes. Sure. Go ahead, sir.
Voice Ehear it at 2:36:46
Thank you. Thank you very much. Stephanie Elliott and Stephanie Ergo, I want to thank you very much because after hearing this item guaranteed, you're going to be getting a lot of phone calls and applications to review and flag, etcetera. And so I just want to help clarify because there are a lot of there is a lot of good information regarding some projects that will be coming forward. And I am not defending in any way, shape or form what's happened in the past by mentioning the fairgrounds. But I will say this, is that the CDBG program has a committee through the state, and we as the commissioners review after your review, and then we make recommendations. And we're not the ones that determine what gets funded. And so many of you will recall that just outside of Pahrump, one of our neighbors within Nye County applied for the CDBG grant. And the last hour after it was submitted and when I say hour, I'm exaggerating because it was weeks after it was submitted, there were some change orders. And according to the criteria for the CDBG program, any change orders are a no no. And then it's basically an automatic almost an automatic disqualification of the program. And so they didn't know that. No harm, no foul for that year. They but they had to reapply the following year. My request, Stephanie, please, is to reach out to former applicants, reach out to Beth Oricevic regarding some of her prospective projects. Some of the folks that have come here before us have some great ideas, the people in Beatty. And then, of course, things are prioritized and we're realistic in letting them know what would be reasonable to move forward and push forward to the CDBG committee. So that would be my request. And again, thank you very much for your diligent work, yours and your staff, in regarding any of the grants programs. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, commissioner.
Voice Chear it at 2:39:29
Okay. Thank you, Stephanie. If I could just say in closing, this is the opportunity for people, including our residents, to submit applications. We're not going to move forward with any projects unless there's an application submitted. So please make sure you take that time. If you're not a private entity that's gonna move forward with a sponsored application, we would book for a county department to be the project manager of that application. Please remember, and if you could share the screen again, the eligible projects are infrastructure only. There are community service block grants offered through the state of Nevada. HHS, our local health and human services, already applies for those. This is infrastructure projects only. And also, if you have not completed an environmental assessment on the proposed property, bottom left hand corner here, you're turning into a planning grant and we can help you with an environmental assessment and get you grant funding for that. And I think that was it. So please, if you have questions, you've got my email. You've got Erga's email. Please reach out to us. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for that. Okay. We're going to take six minutes at the request of Commissioner Jabbour.
Voice Ehear it at 2:40:40
Only because I've received requests out of the room.
Voice Chear it at 2:40:50
Chair, the commissioners aren't back yet up here. Oh, thank you. You are all alone. Hello, Corey.
Voice Bhear it at 2:40:59
Hello. How are you? I am living the dream. But if I was any better, it would be illegal.
Voice Chear it at 2:41:06
I was just thinking the same exact thing.
Voice Bhear it at 2:41:10
I'm counting down the days till I don't have to listen to this. '24? Yes. We're gonna go to 24, but we're waiting on commissioner Jabbour or Bain.
Voice Ehear it at 2:41:31
Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't know you were talking to me.
Voice Bhear it at 2:41:41
And just so you know, we're going to try to do a few items and then to have to take a break so the staff can eat lunch.
Voice Mhear it at 2:41:51
What? We have to feed them?
Voice Bhear it at 2:42:04
24, yeah. Well, because I have staff that needs lunch, and that'll gonna take two hours. And I'm the chair, so if you want to run for office, win, and become chair, then you can do whatever you want. How's that? Alright. Commissioners, we've got them. Let's roll. 24, please. 24.
10. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation regarding the General Road Report by the Public Works Director on General Road Maintenance, Gravel Road Maintenance, Asphalt Patching, Weed Mowing, and direction regarding public works projects.
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Item 10 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the general road report by the Public Works Director on general road maintenance, gravel road maintenance, asphalt patching, weed mowing and direction regarding Public Works projects.
Voice Bhear it at 4:39:45
Is Assistant Director Bogot Orr? He is, Commissioner. He
Voice Ahear it at 4:39:52
is, but he's sitting in front of the computer getting his stuff set up real quick. Okay. Thank you.
Voice Chear it at 4:40:08
Hello, commissioners. Bogot for the record. I just need to steal one more cord.
Voice Bhear it at 4:40:46
And that concludes the presentation. Thank you, guys.
Voice Chear it at 4:40:50
Short and sweet. I love it. There's a lot to log in here. I forgot to say my last name. Bogot, g o t t. Okay. Let's put together a little bit of a slideshow for you guys. I'll just kinda walk you through this before I get my report, and then I'll just kinda repeat, once I get going here. So this is a picture or some drone footage of Thousand Air Boulevard from Homestead to Valley Boulevard. This is a service treatment that we did last year. Just showing you the conditions of the road. It's in pretty bad shape. This is some drone footage here of a scrub seal action that we did last year. As you can see, this is the scrub box here during a slurry slurry seal treatment. This is a side by side of on your left there is after the treatment. On the right is before the treatment. So as you can see, all the cracks are sealed up. Let's see this slide here. This is an overhead view of all the chip that we have done in Pahrump since 2022. So these are all the roads that got completely patched, repaired, and a full chip seal layer over the top of it. I just wanted to be able to show how many roads that we are actually impacting. As of now, we're pretty close to 120 miles since 2022 here in Pahrump. This is an overhead of Amargosa. The same deal. Everything in green there is what we have done over the past few years as far as Chips Hill, and the blue there would have been what we're going to be doing this year. And as you can see here on Beatty, same deal, making a pretty big impact in Beatty. A few more years, we'll have that pretty well done. Tonopah overhead, while the green has been completed, the red is what we plan on doing this year. That's about four miles. This is Gabs on your left. That's what we did back in 2024. And Carver's on your right is which we did some chip seal up there last year. This is a side by side comparison of one of our worst chip seal roads here in town. As you can see, all the all the potholes on the left and on your right there is what it looks like after we patched it. And this is what it looks like after we patched it and a chip seal surface treatment. Here on your left is our truck mounted spray patcher. This was in work last week of Ambeidi preparing for chip seal this year. And on the right, there's a crew installing one of our solar lights that we've been putting up this year. It should be the last slide. I'll just let that continue to play through as I read my report here. So public works has received three eighty nine maintenance requests since the beginning of this year. Two seven of those requests have been completed. 49 were declined or not relative to public works, leaving 86 unresolved requests so far this year. 32 requests reported in the last month. These numbers continue to decline. For reference, in July of last year, we received 61. And in July 2024, we received 125. The continuous patching and the chip seal program are really beginning to reflect the number of requests as they're coming down. There are still a lot of potholes in the county, but the road departments are really putting a dent into them. Throughout the county, chip seal preparation has been the main focus. Patching, mowing, tree removal and shouldering are all considered part of the chip prep. Outside of that, maintenance requests are being reacted to along with general maintenance, including gravel road maintenance, sign install and repair, paint striping, culvert and driveway repair, trash and debris removal, and we are finally getting to wrap up some special projects that we we have had on the books for some time now, one of which is the install of solar streetlights. Over the past couple of weeks, we have installed four new lights here in Pahrump located at Prophet Boulevard in Honeysuckle, Calvada in Mount Charleston, Calvada in Upland, and Red Rock at 3 Highway 372. In total, eight of the 22 lights for Pahrump have been installed. We will continue to put them up as time allows, but we're really pushing to get them all up this year. We also have 20 lights to be installed throughout the county, including five in Amargosa, five in Beatty, five in Tonopah, and five in the Round Mountain area. That's pretty much what we've been up to and, what our road departs have been tackling over the past few months. I'm opening up for any questions or concerns.
Voice Bhear it at 4:46:19
Thank you, Bo. Commissioners, any questions for Bo before I open up public comment, please? Thank you, chair. I just want to say that's an amazing report, and the drone footage is pretty cool. Thank you, chair. Thank you. Vice Chair Koenig?
Voice Dhear it at 4:46:40
I have nothing. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:46:43
Mr. Ben? Okay. I will open this up for public comment at this time. Serena, is there anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 4:46:56
Yes, sure. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 4:47:02
Yes. Hello. My name is Laura Larson, l a r s e n. My question is, are they gonna do any more repairs and make the road smoother for on Wilson by CCA, the school. That's the only question that I have if that's on the agenda. Because they did do a patchwork, but it's real really still bumpy and stuff. So I just wanted to check to see if they're putting that on the agenda as well on the report. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:47:37
Thank you, Laura. Go ahead, Susie, please, in pro.
Voice Ghear it at 4:47:43
Thanks, Bruce. Susie Hertz, h e r t z. I had a question about one of the solar street lights, and that's on Blag and Gamebird. And, I drive through there pretty frequently, and seems like the light isn't very bright. So I was wondering if there's any way that that could be replaced with a brighter light. It's it's supposed to light up the intersection, but it's really hard to see when you're coming upon it. My second question or comment has to do with, striping throughout town and the county. Even when we drive on 95 in places, it's it's really rough. I know the sun must bleach it out, but, I find that the the striping and the shoulder striping is really helpful to make driving a safer experience, and, I was hoping that maybe more of that could be done. I mean, just even for example on GameBird, it's it's totally faded out. So if you're driving through there in the dark at night, good luck. So that's my request. Thank you.
Voice Dhear it at 4:49:02
If you have a car that drives itself, it hates it when it can't see a white line.
Voice Bhear it at 4:49:09
Go ahead, mister Dwight, please.
Voice Hhear it at 4:49:24
Somebody turn that off for me. Anyway, Dwight Lilly, l I l y. I appreciate your chip sealing, Alzanair and Vicky Ann, but I brought it up before to a previous road director. I've never understood why we don't have weight limits on some of the roads here because ChipSeal is a not designed to have 80,000, 90,000 pound loads running on it. And already on thousand air, I'm seeing some issues. And I know exactly what it is because I see one after another truck, about 80,000 pounds worth going down that road. It's not designed for 80,000 weight. And so this is kinda like you pour concrete in your patio. You got it all done. It's a hot August day, and you go out and some kid walked across your concrete. And you got those holes. That's the same idea. Now we gotta go fix the concrete again. So I urge the county commissioners to form some type of routing because I know trucks have to come into town, but have it designated that these are the only routes the heavy trucks can go on. Stay out of my neighborhood. I don't wanna see 80,000 pound trucks going up in Viki up Viki Ann, over Kellogg, down Thousand Air because I know that in just a couple years, I'm gonna be complaining to you. How come Thousand Air doesn't get ship sealed? And you're gonna say, well, we just did it. Yeah. But she wouldn't have let 80,000 pounds drive down it. It was the same way that happened to your patio out there when you poured it. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:51:02
Thank you. Serena, is there anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 4:51:07
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ihear it at 4:51:13
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. When I drive around Pahrump, I can see where some work has been done. They do really good work, and we need so much done. I'm still waiting for my street. It's getting worse every day. It's it's so bad that our sides of the street are working themselves into the middle of the street, and we have two big 18 wheelers that have property down here. So they're up and down the street all the time, and Barney is just every day, there's big, huge 18 wheelers. And and, again, Basin Basin is destroyed from Wesley down to Barney, and it's it's a mess. And they just, you know, fix some things on there. I I don't know what the answer is, but I'm kinda selfish. I want my street fixed. They do such a great job. They did a great job back here on Medicine Man and another street, but, they look fabulous. But they weren't in such disarray as what my street is in now from wood chips down to, to Barney. So, hopefully, they can they can push it in somewhere and, and help me out before they have to redo Thousand Air and some others. Thanks.
Voice Bhear it at 4:52:44
Thank you, Amy. Go ahead, Linda and Pahrump, please.
Voice Jhear it at 4:52:49
Linda Clark, CLARK. I'm hoping that we don't have any more of these big
Voice Ghear it at 4:52:58
trucks that are coming through town with the griddens,
Voice Jhear it at 4:53:02
whatever those things are they call. Because I can't think imagine that those are helping our streets any. Especially when it takes, what, three or four vehicles just to get it through town and they mess up all the traffic. I've been behind one twice now. It's it's frustrating. The other thing I want to say is, I wanna thank the street department, this gentleman and other people for coming here and telling us what you're doing. One of the few times that we get to know. Also, that you're using your screens. It's nice to be able to look up there and see what's going on instead of someone telling us and we don't understand. And I've asked before. We've got these beautiful screens. People come in here and tell us their programs and their stuff that we could put stuff up there so we can see and understand. And I don't know how the caption works over there. Is it by sound, voice, or someone actually in there typing? I don't AI. AI. Well, AI is worthless. They can't even spell. They spelled mister Cozi's name, c o o o z I. Come on. He's not a coozi. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:54:10
Thank you. I think it was supposed to be Jacuzzi. Go ahead, Tony and Pruhlm, please.
Voice Khear it at 4:54:21
Is it my turn?
Voice Khear it at 4:54:23
Tony Hoverman, h o v e r m a n. I'm going to add on to what Dwight said earlier. Wait. Wait on our roads. And I'm gonna also add on to what Linda had to say. Linda, darling. When MediWaste gets here, guess what they're gonna have in the back of their trucks? They're gonna have all that medical filth, waste, and pollution. And I'm pretty sure they're gonna be charging over our roads and some pretty big trucks. Hell, why not? They're coming from California. Pahrump's the dump. We're just gonna leave it all here and pollute Pahrump. So it's not just the air. It's not the land. It's not the sky, and it's not the earth, and it's not the water that meta waste is gonna screw up out here. It's gonna be our roads too. And I fear with this special permit thing that's going on, That is may they may be more advanced in in our backyard, meta waste than what the rest of us tax paying people realize. Tonight at Treasures from six to 8PM, I will be there. I hope you guys are too. So Meta Waste is gonna mess up Pahrump, and our commissioners are gonna let it happen. It's really sad. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:56:00
Thank you, Tony. Serena, is there anybody else on the phone, please?
Voice Bhear it at 4:56:09
Thank you. Tom in Pahrump.
Voice Lhear it at 4:56:13
Tom Boatman, B O A T M A N. Hey. The roads look great, man. Thank you for all your hard work. Keep the street lights in the gutter or on the back burner. I like my stars. Thank you. Thank
Voice Bhear it at 4:56:26
you. How about one more time, Serena? Anybody on the phone?
Voice Bhear it at 4:56:33
Thank you, miss. And, Pahrump, go ahead, please.
Voice Mhear it at 4:56:38
Adriana hello? Yes. Go ahead. Adriana Salzer, s a l, z like zebra, e r. I have a question. I know that we're fixing the roads, but what about the residents? They came just to give you a quick example, they came to fix our road or our street, I should say, and it's even worse than it was before. My husband and I ride motorcycles, so it's hard when you're trying to balance, obviously, a motorcycle and trying to go through a dip. So is there is there a game plan to fix the residents besides the major streets?
Voice Bhear it at 4:57:14
We'll answer the questions after you're finished, Ms. Seltzer.
Voice Mhear it at 4:57:20
Okay. Well, I'm done talking.
Voice Bhear it at 4:57:22
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Go ahead and parempt there, please.
Voice Nhear it at 4:57:29
Penny Betcha, b e c c I a. And I just want to make sure that nobody forgets about the North Side as far as roads because we do have trucks going through Leslie. And Leslie goes all to the North also. And just don't forget about the residency, the North Side, please.
Voice Bhear it at 4:57:50
Yes. Thank you. How about one more time, Serena? Anybody on the line?
Voice Bhear it at 4:57:58
Thank you. Hearing and seeing no other for public comment, I will close public comment. Bo, I know you took notes as well as I did. Would you like to respond to some of the questions at this time, please?
Voice Chear it at 4:58:17
Yes. I'll give it a shot and see what I can do here. For Ms. Larson, Wilson. Wilson continues to be in grant application. We're trying to get that we'd like to do that from Highway 160 all the way up to Leslie. It's a big project. We're looking at a, you know, 5,000,000 plus project that, you know, road department budget cannot do on its own. So that continues to be in grant application. We do have a section there in the Ashanti Ridge in front of the Ashanti Ridge Ridge subdivision that just recently got finished up. We didn't get to chip that last year. We're going to go ahead and seal that up as we continue to wait to see what happens with the grant. For Ms. Hertz, the Black and GameBird light, I believe that is one of the VEA lights. That's not one of ours. I will look into that. Possibly, it could be one that hasn't been updated to a newer lifestyle. For the paint striping, we do have a certain amount of paint striping that we're able to do every year, that just runs in a continuous cycle. We pick that up. Usually, it takes about five years to get through our whole process to get everything restriped. We did have a lot of with these surface treatments, if these if the road did have paint striping prior to a chip seal or a scrub seal scrub seal, that eats into our our paint striping budget because we do have to restripe those first. And usually, it takes two coats of paint to get that to actually stick. Let's see what else we got here. Dwight Lilly, we got weight limits on roads. Couldn't agree with you more. We do have a weight limit. 80 ton. That's where we're at right now. These trucks, there's development in town. There is houses being built. For this to be able to happen, you got to move dirt. You got to move material. There's not really a way around it right now. You take it from you put a stricter limit on one road, then they're going to go on another road and tear that up. Do you really want them running on the newer roads to tear those up more? Or, you know, it's a lose lose situation. Ms. Nelson, if you could put in a road maintenance request. I did not get your street name. All I got was wood chips to Barney. I know what area you're talking about because there's all those roads in that neighborhood. They're from 372 all the way over to, I'd say, even Irene are in pretty bad shape. But if you could call our office or put in a maintenance request so I know which street is yours, please. Thank you. For mister Boatman, he's concerned with the lights. Our lights are dark sky compliant. You know, were purchased through the RTC for intersection safety. You know, some of these intersections are really dark at night. It just helps a lot to get those lights up just for safety. And, yeah, I think that's it.
Voice Bhear it at 5:01:43
Okay. Thank you, Bo. As you know, the majority of these concerns are absolutely about safety and majority in Pahrump, the concerns in the North Side Of Pahrump. I can tell you that since I've been seated that Amy Nelson has called in as much as possible and has been very polite in asking for something to be done in her area, especially on her street. So if she hasn't put in a request all this time, my gosh, we should have let her know that that because I was assuming she had put in a request and after all this time. So please, if you could look into that. And she has told us that some good days and some bad days, and on her good days, I'm certain she doesn't want to be a prisoner. Even in her own home, she gets in her car and wants to drive and get some fresh air and do shopping, what have you, and this is when she experiences what she's experiencing in her area. So I certainly appreciate that and everybody else's input because they're all common sense and logical, And I just appreciate you being on top of this. And thank you for putting it up on the screen because as Linda Clark explained, not everybody is audible. And we know about the audible visual and kinetic peoples and personalities. And so she's one that's visual and absolutely appreciated seeing it up on the screen and not just hearing about it from the microphone and having to look at the backup, really. So thank you for putting that together. I know it took some of your time. I also want to thank you, Adam, the supervisor in the North, Adam Gromis, and Billy Hummel and the team here in the North and especially in Tonopah. I was in Belmont for the one hundred and fiftieth anniversary for the July 4, also celebrating simultaneously the two hundred and fiftieth for our great nation. And there were so many compliments for the work that has been done on Belmont Road. That, too, has been a topic, a hot topic, right? Hot topic, pun intended. And so the people really appreciated the work that's been done. It's not totally finished, but they absolutely appreciated the work that was completed, especially for the holiday and for all the tourists and the locals that went out to celebrate the Fourth of July in Belmont, our second county seat. So thank you, Bo. Commissioners, if you don't have anything else, I will turn it back over to Chair Boscovich.
Voice Ahear it at 5:05:07
And thank you again, Bo. Yeah. Thank you, Bo. And thank you, Commissioner. Okay. Let's move on to number 12, please.
11. For Possible Action - Presentation regarding Liquor License fees collected for Fiscal Year 2025-2026, and discussion and deliberation to consider the renewal of licenses for Fiscal Year 2026-2027 pursuant to Nye County Code 5.04.190(B)(1).
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Item 11, for possible action presentation regarding liquor license fees collected for fiscal year 2025 and 2026 and discussion and deliberation to consider the renewal of licenses for fiscal year 2026 and 2027 pursuant to Nye County Code 5.04.190(one).
Voice Bhear it at 4:21:01
And this will open the Nye County Liquor and Licensing Board. And Serena, do you have the information?
Voice Chear it at 4:21:15
Manager Samantha Tackett is on the line for Samantha,
Voice Dhear it at 4:21:22
Hi. Hi, Chair. Thank you. So this is our annual report of licensees collected through the fiscal year we just closed and what we've collected so far for the fiscal year we just opened. We are seeking approval of those licenses who have paid. We do have two that have not paid. One is Breakthrough Bread Beverage. They're a distributor based out of Las Vegas. And the other is Bill House of Buffalo LLC, DBA Steelbound Brewery, but this is the distributor of products. This is not our local franchisee. Staff has made numerous attempts to contact both of these licensees to remedy the nonpayment but have not received any response. We do have a third, which is Tattooatos that paid late. So it will be up to the board if you would like to renew that license and to confirm nonrenewal of the other two that have not paid.
Voice Bhear it at 4:22:41
sir. Thank you. So commissioners,
Voice Ehear it at 4:22:47
any I have a question before we have public comment and the rest of it. I get the ones that haven't paid their liquor license fees. Okay? But the assessor before the meeting handed me this list of ones that haven't paid their taxes. One of them is $6,673. I'm I don't know what I don't think we've done anything with that in the past, and I'm not sure what to do with it now. So could be a question for you. We have commissioner.
Voice Fhear it at 4:23:27
Through through the chair. Yes? Yes, sir. Go. Sure. Thank you. So Commissioner Konig is referring to the personal property taxes. I, too, have a list of companies that have not paid their personal property taxes for whatever reason. And in the past, I believe we've approved contingent upon them paying their taxes immediately.
Voice Ghear it at 4:23:57
Okay. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:24:03
So for the record, some of these are very small amounts. I mean, most of them are very, very small amounts. Some are up there a little bit that I I don't have that amount of money in my pocket right now. And then there's others that I'm gonna have to go to the bank for. So I I think that, I mean, I I would think that we hold their license in abeyance pending payment, approve their license and held in abeyance until the payment is made? If
Voice Dhear it at 4:24:37
we can do that? Sure. This is Sam at
Voice Dhear it at 4:24:45
Thank you. I am unsure how the assessor's office is contacting these licensees to notify them of their delinquent MSQ, but I I would like direction on how you want my staff to notify them or if that should be at the assessor's office. A lot of these licensees have already been have already received their license certificate upon payment.
Voice Ahear it at 4:25:16
Maybe in the motion, give them a number of days to
Voice Bhear it at 4:25:21
In lieu of a show cause? Mean, I got to pay my taxes. I'm sure they get a tax bill from the assessor's office. Sherry, welcome.
Voice Hhear it at 4:25:36
Just where I wanna spend my last day of vacation.
Voice Bhear it at 4:25:39
Anyway, Sherry And happy birthday, by the way. Very much. Elated, I think. Yes. Couple days, but that's okay.
Voice Hhear it at 4:25:46
Sherry Stringer, Nye County Assessor. Yes. I did bring this forward to all of you to let you know that these businesses do still owe for personal property taxes. I've spoken with Sam. I've spoken with Brett. I've spoken with the DA, in regards to this that, you know, when they come up for their liquor license or renewal of any type of license, that they should send me a list so I can look at them and see if they're have outstanding taxes, and then we won't have this issue when it comes before the board. If we can get that into an effect, that would be great. They get bills just like everybody else does. If you don't pay your taxes, you get your first bill in in July, you get your next one at the end of August, you get another one. You know, it's like I I mean, there are several, billings that they receive and notices. You know, they get their first, second, third, and then their final and, you know, it's like and then we just kinda chase them around. I mean, basically, it's what we're doing. So if we can do that in advance of getting these licenses, I have no problem. If somebody sends me the list, I will gladly look them all up.
Voice Bhear it at 4:27:00
Samantha, is that feasible?
Voice Dhear it at 4:27:07
Yes. It is.
Voice Ahear it at 4:27:08
Okay. That is what we did do with the cannabis licensing. That was part of the backup. If they owed taxes or anything, it was broadcast to the world in that backup. So The problem is is oftentimes one department doesn't necessarily
Voice Bhear it at 4:27:27
communicate with another. We had an item earlier with a fireworks license that something else came up after it being posted. So, yeah, if we could get that done, I think that would be beneficial.
Voice Ahear it at 4:27:41
Neil, the other thing I would ask from this board is direction to staff to review these fees and update them. They're way out of date. I was Direction given?
Voice Dhear it at 4:27:53
We are already working on that. I'm
Voice Bhear it at 4:27:56
sorry. Say again? She's already working on it. Oh.
Voice Hhear it at 4:28:00
Okay. So sheriff McGill, we're in agreeance that when these become due again, that I will receive a list so that we can go over them and make sure that we're not bringing this to the board on the date of of, you know County admin will be
Voice Bhear it at 4:28:15
putting you on their checklist. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Public comment. Dwight?
Voice Ihear it at 4:28:29
Yes. Dwight Lilly, l I l y. I heard the name Steelbound as one of the organizations that have not paid their liquor taxes, I understand. They also had a recent issue with the health department, unhealthy situation. They were shut down. They also had issues with paying their employees down there. I so I question, do you guys wanna give somebody a break? I can understand giving people a break. But when you have a company that appears that they simply do not follow the rule of law, they why would a place that's called steel bound, I believe brewery, not have a liquor license? I mean, I can't answer that, but I would be down there right now if I was a sheriff and they don't have a current liquor license, they would be shut down from serving a light liquor before 05:00 today. That's how I strongly I feel about that. We do not need people not paying their taxes, number one. We definitely don't need to give leniency to any company that has shown areas of disregard of public law in numerous areas. So why you would give that company any type of leniency is beyond is beyond me. So if you're gonna pass for everybody else, I would leave it now and sheriff McGill go down and shut them down today. Dwight, I think you need to turn your hearing aid up because you misheard that. It was not steel bound. It's still house.
Voice Ehear it at 4:30:01
And it's for their bar in New York. In New York? I don't care. It's
Voice Bhear it at 4:30:09
okay. Do you have anybody on the phone, Serena?
Voice Chear it at 4:30:16
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Jhear it at 4:30:21
Well, hello, Sarah. Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. How's my tone with you? Is it okay? Nice to know if I'm legal or lawful, but I appreciate it. Hopefully, y'all can hear me, but I really truly hope our state and federal partners have their ears on and pretty much take up your process when it comes to the room room tax. And it's quite easy to see when you're licensed in Liberty. And like I say, the big thing for me is, you know, you're not a taxpayer. Stop identifying with that. You're paying for fraud. It's obvious. For years and years and years, we've been paying for fraud, and you're identifying as a taxpayer. Wake up, people. Thank you,
Voice Bhear it at 4:31:12
Colin. Thank you. Come on up.
Voice Ghear it at 4:31:22
Hi. Susie Hertz, h e r t z. Given the fact that our budget is in trouble, I would hope and I would expect that we don't extend leniency to people who are are tardy with paying their bills. The rest of us have to pay our bills. Those people ought to pay their bills as well. And particularly in the area of liquor licenses since liquor has an effect on our lives because people driving around under the influence kill other people and damage property. So I'd say it's a an area that we really ought to pay attention to. So I would hope that we would cut the leniency, make these people pay, or take their licenses away. Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:32:18
Come on down. I think she turned you off.
Voice Khear it at 4:32:26
Kenyon Salzer, s a l z e r. Let me ask you a question. What happens if we don't pay our taxes? Will we get fined and probably get penalized for it? So if these companies are out there not paying their taxes, they should get the same as everybody else and not get, oh, okay. We're sorry. We're gonna let you go for another thirty days and you can pay it. They don't do that to me. They won't do it to everybody else in here. So these companies need to pay their taxes. If they don't, shut them down, period. Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:33:02
Anybody on the phone?
Voice Chear it at 4:33:08
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Lhear it at 4:33:14
Michael Tunis, t s u n I s, proprietor of the Welsh Tavern here in Prominent. Good afternoon, commissioners. Good afternoon, sheriff. Just wanted to be known that on July 2, I was down at the county to pay the fees, and I was two days late, and I take full responsibility of that. And I couldn't bring more to the taxes. We are we're in the taxes for ourselves, but we are remedied everything across the board. And, I just wanna make sure that the sheriff and the commissioners know that I respect you guys enough to be here. I've been waiting for, like, six hours on this phone. So, just wanted to let you know that I did pay the liquor license fee. It was one day late or or two days late, technically, July 2, and I do apologize for that. That's all I'm saying. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Michael.
Voice Mhear it at 4:34:07
Tony Hilberman, h o, v as in Victor, e r m a n. Like I said before, I was in commercial business insurance for forty years. I I I I just can't even comprehend that an establishment would be serving alcohol without a current license. Do you know what kind of lawsuit Pahrump or Nye County would be into if someone left an establishment that did not have a current liquor license paid for And they went out and hit, killed, or maimed somebody? I got news for you. A good attorney is gonna have heads nailed to the walls, and we're gonna have a lawsuit. We're gonna have a lawsuit that we we'll never balance the budget, and that'll be guaranteed. And especially if they go out and hit, kill, or maim somebody that was the major breadwinner and has lost lost of consortiaism with his wife and has got a couple young kids. I I just I can't, like I can't even begin to tell you the liability exposure on this one. This one shouldn't get notices. And this no. If you if you're if your taxes are due on a certain date and you don't pay them or you're you're shut down. The the sheriff goes and tapes a notice to your front door, and you're not doing any business after you until you become current, including outrageous penalties because this is your bread and butter. If you can't even keep your liquor license current, you're risking every the whole community is at risk. Because if if somebody goes in there, an attorney, you know, figures out that that was not a current license that was paid in full and current, but there's gonna be hell of a lawsuit. And I'll be damned if my property taxes are gonna pay for it. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:36:22
I don't think we can hold this meeting before the close of payment deadline, can we? Yeah, we can't. Right? Yeah, it wouldn't work. Anybody on the phone, Serena?
Voice Bhear it at 4:36:41
Okay. We'll close public comment. Commissioners, any comments?
Voice Bhear it at 4:36:54
So just to be clear, Tatuato paid two days late.
Voice Ehear it at 4:36:59
Can I comment on that while while you bring it up? Please. Because according to the people that that had to deal with the gentleman, he was not very receptive. Let's put it that way. And I would just like to say to him, if he's still listening, that Your time's up. Your time's up. My time's up. Dan. Thank you. Next. You only paid for a quarter. And at the end of the quarter, if you're a day late, I'm gonna have the sheriff come and put a notice on your door. You can't treat our people with respect. We're gonna come find you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:37:33
Just yeah. Yeah. So Tatuato is off the list technically. I believe we do have the ability to issue a penalty. The other three are
Voice Ehear it at 4:37:57
Not gonna get their AWOL. Right. Do you want me to make a motion to reflect? Sure. Okay. I'd like to make a motion, mister chair, that Breakthrough Beverage, Nevada LLC wholesale, they have two unpaid liquor licenses. Make a motion that we not give them a license. And Stillhouse of Buffalo, New York has one unpaid liquor license, and I'd like to make it include in that motion that they do not get another liquor license either.
Voice Bhear it at 4:38:32
Second. Hey. We have a motion and a second. Total pod, do we have any other further discussion? Are they frozen? No, they're not frozen. See. And moving.
Voice Ehear it at 4:38:46
It's tough up there. It's cold.
Voice Bhear it at 4:38:52
No further discussion, chair. Please call for the vote. Okay. We'll call for the vote.
Voice Ahear it at 4:39:11
Okay. Let's take a ten minute comfort break.
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For number 10. Manager,
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be kind enough to open number 10, please.
12. 10:00 a.m. - For Possible Action - Public Hearing, discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt, or reject Town of Pahrump Bill No. 2026-02: A Bill adding Chapter 26, titled Data Centers, by adding Section 26-1 titled Purpose and Findings, Section 26-2 titled Definitions, Section 26-3 titled Prohibited Uses, Section 26-4 titled Applicability, Section 26-5 titled Prohibition on Circumvention, Section 26-6 titled Preexisting Uses and Approvals, Section 26-7 titled Enforcement and Violations, and Section 26-8 titled Administrative Appeal and Relief; and providing for Severability, Constitutionality and Effective Date thereof; and other matters properly related thereto.
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Item twelve, ten AM timed item for possible action, public hearing discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt or reject. Panel prompt bill number twenty twenty six dash zero two, bill adding chapter 26 titled data centers by adding Section 20 six-one titled Purpose and Findings Section 20 six-two titled Definitions Section 20 six-three titled Prohibited Uses Section 20 six-four titled Applicability Section 20 six-five titled Prohibition and Circumvention Section 26.6 titled Preexisting Uses and Approvals Section 20 six-seven titled Enforcement and Violations, and Section 20 six-eight titled Administrative Appeal and Relief and Providing for the Servability, Constitutionality, and effective date thereof and other matters properly relating thereto.
Voice Bhear it at 5:06:19
Okay. Thank you for that. Commissioner Bain, if you want to start this and then we'll do public.
Voice Chear it at 5:06:24
This is just a prohibition of data centers within the town of Pahrump. The other law that was previously covers the county, and we set a date for that. This is only to cover the town of Pahrump, just so people understand that when they're commenting. Thank you, mister chairman. Thank you. Alright. Let's open public. Come on down, Steven.
Voice Dhear it at 5:06:46
Steven Pittman, p I t m a n. Good time. Right now, are over 5,000 data centers operating across The US with nearly 3,000 more under construction or planned. US hosts more data center capacity than any other country. China, with 1,400,000,000 people, has only 400. A 100 megawatt hyperscale campus can cost between 1,000,000,000 and $2,000,000,000 larger ones up to $10,000,000,000 AI is the driver of this. Companies like Microsoft, Google, Meta, etcetera, are each investing between $50,000,000,000 and $80,000,000,000 annually in infrastructure. There are 36 data centers right now operating in the Las Vegas Henderson area, 23 in Reno. And I'm sure some of you can see a little bit of switch as you go around, the two fifteen, by Decatur. Many of these offer colocation. In other words, a company can rent server space at an existing facility. Valley Electric cannot tell me their current available capacity, just that it will take three to six months to process an application. VEA doesn't really produce any power. They must buy it on the wholesale market. In 2023, Valley purchased 605,664 megawatt hours of power. That's an awful lot. Data centers make a lot of heat. Heat islands that they create raise local temperatures up to 16 degrees. Air cooling is not practical in the desert. A 10 megawatt data center can consume 53,000 gallons of water a day. Modern data centers employ zero people once it's operational, typically. They, work remotely. Data centers will argue that they sell no goods or services, therefore will not pay any sales tax. So any tax abatement Nye County offers will never be recovered. On the backup with this, draft ordinance, somebody did a really nice job on this. And I especially like, section twenty six five that says no prior approval shall vest any right to establish or operate a data center within the town of Pahrump unless the use was lawfully established and operational prior to the effective date of this chapter. Please don't approve any data centers in Pahrump. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:09:24
Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:09:29
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Voice Fhear it at 5:09:34
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. If if we allow a data center to be put in Pahrump or anywhere on the edge of Pahrump, is going to make us a ghost town within a decade. That's what I've been told by specialists that look at these programs. Other places around the country have been banning them, And I think that that would be a wise choice for our commissioners, and that is to ban them at minimum for the moratorium on allowing any of them to be brought here until more research can be done. I am not for data centers, for many, many reasons. The destruction of the Mohave Mohave Desert, the the use of our water, depletion of it. Many things helped. I'm just absolutely against them, and I hope you that, you guys, agree. Thank you.
Voice Ghear it at 5:10:41
Thank you, Amy. Come on down in front, please.
Voice Hhear it at 5:10:46
Good evening, commissioners. Sharon, last name is Cruz, c r u I s e. I wanna thank you for the moratorium on the data centers, but my request is for you to totally block any and all data centers from being built in Pahrump, including the two that were given permission prior to the moratorium. I'm making this request based on the findings of the Nye County Water District, which stated that Pahrump Valley's sole source aquifer could reach critical management as early as 2055. Allowing data centers to be built in this most in the most populated area of Nye County will significantly endanger our water supply and decrease the critical management time frame. So please, I urge you to put your constituents first by not allowing structures such as data centers, toxic medical waste processing centers to be built in Pahrump, causing environmental disruptions that will not be able to be reversed. In doing so, you will be keeping Pahrump a quiet, picturesque town, free from noisy, unattractive, and environmentally unfriendly companies such as data centers and toxic medical waste centers. I would also like to say that I would really appreciate it if we could do the agendas in the order that it's listed. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:12:18
Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:12:25
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for record.
Voice Ihear it at 5:12:29
Paul Delacruz, d e l a c r u z. I like Ian's law that he's got there. I just hope that the county has the money to enforce it. I know that Boulder City just finally got people that wanted the data center there withdrew their application. The only problem I see here is I don't think we have the money to even defend anything when we have to borrow $5 to defend a DUI. So good luck, guys. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:12:59
Come on down, sir.
Voice Jhear it at 5:13:03
Roger Wilson, w I l s o n. I went back and read the backup for this agenda item, and I just have one observation and two suggestions. Under section 26 dash one, it says purpose and findings. Paragraph b says the town finds that large scale data centers, including their associated electrical infrastructure, cooling systems, etcetera. One suggestion I would have would either the in the definitions in 26 dash two, define what a large scale data center is or more easily suggestion number two would just move the term large scale and just leave it data centers. It's the only place I could find this that was listed as large scale.
Voice Bhear it at 5:13:57
So thank you. Thank you. Serena, anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Fhear it at 5:14:04
No, chair. Come on down.
Voice Khear it at 5:14:11
Melody Keith. I'm not against Katie, Thank I t you. Sorry. I am not against data centers. I am against them in our area. We don't have the resources for it. The desert is not the right place for it. So I just want you to reject anything in Pahrump or even Nye County. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Dwight.
Voice Lhear it at 5:14:39
Excuse me. Dwight Lilly, l I l o y. The largest data center project ever proposed in The US is officially dead. Blackstone owned GTS Realty Trust withdrew its appeal to the Virginia State Supreme Court on July 2. Now this was a $100,000,000,000 project that they had. In May, there was a Gallup survey released. 71% of Americans opposed data center construction in their area, with 48% strongly opposed running higher than in opposition to local nuclear plants. In other words, it's more unpopular for a data center than a nuclear plant to come into your area. Now I know that Russ Mead and a few people are promoting data centers here. We have about 50,000 people here. And I like to think of the idea that a few people want something, but about 48,000 people don't want something, that the 48,000 people would be in the affirmative on that. You could say, well, why don't you want data centers? Because I don't want data centers. And I live here and I don't want them. No different than a large scale solar project. Why don't you want them? I just don't want them in my backyard. I have solar panels on my roof. I think the public here, and I appreciate the MBA in bringing this up, we have a right to say what type of industry we want to have as neighbors in our town, and we do not want this. Now the I've looked into these data centers as far as the cooling systems and that, you can have that closed loop one. How many people know how much pollution those closed loop systems put out in the water? In fact, it's recommended that the data centers have their own treatment centers to partially treat the water before they release it. But where are you going to release the partially treated water? Well, into probably a rapid infiltration basin right back down into our aquifer here. And we only have one aquifer. The electrical use is another big thing. They don't want the electrical use. People don't want their electricity used for this. I don't want VEA using the services of VEA to deal with the data center, and I'm a member. But, of course, the people that promote it, they say we're members too. But commissioners, I happen to believe that the will of the people is that we don't have data centers here. Move them up somewhere else. You mentioned the solar farm that's going up nine miles out of, Beatty. Put a data center up there. It's nowhere near Pahrump. Put it somewhere else. We do not want data center in Perham, but I hope you support this and vote against having data centers in Perham. Those that are are for it, go build your data center nine miles outside of Beatty. Just don't build it in Perham. We do not want it. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:17:31
Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:17:35
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Mhear it at 5:17:40
Yes. Tim Bohannon, b o h a n n o n. There's there's quite a few things in the that need to be checked on. One of the concerns I have was that the definition of the data center, making sure that other places such as Intermountain Health, the hospital, other other businesses do not qualify as a data center based on the the definition, and I didn't hear any or see any feedback regarding that from from those who offered us if that check had has been made. So that's definitely something you should should take a hard look at. Didn't see anything about the size, megawatts. I did see the large scale, and I understand that. But it didn't talk about types either. So that's something that, you know, I would have expected to see as I would in definition of data centers based on IBM and some other other players as well. The other thing that I have not seen any true evidence on is what would be the tax benefit to us if this actually happens. So it happened, is it really a 100,000,000? Is it less? Is it more? What's that number? That kind of thing. From an environmental standpoint, haven't seen anything that tells me that from an environmental that the chemical process or the or the replacement of that process would be something that would work in our backyard. Still questions and open for additional feedback from that on those players who are involved with with the data centers with evidence, and I'm looking for the evidence. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Tammy.
Voice Nhear it at 5:19:41
Tammy Pittman, p I t m a n. On the water, even when it's treated, it still will have what's called forever chemicals. And when it goes into those ribs, it's going down into our aquifer, and we're toast. And it doesn't matter how much money they give us. They could give us hundreds of millions of dollars. They're if they destroy our infrastructure if they destroy our resources, which water is a key resource, you can't live without it, we're toast. Second of all, this technology moves at such a pace that no matter what, their tax abatements are going to outlive long past the technology that they build today, and they'll just be giant empty buildings that are a millstone around our neck. We
Voice Bhear it at 5:20:38
do not build data centers. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:20:45
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ohear it at 5:20:51
Hi. My name is Kristy Burkel, b u r k e l. I'm going to just second the opinions that have already been voiced out there. We, the citizens, do not want a data center. I mean, come on, commissioners. You couldn't even regulate a marijuana farm. What makes you think you're going to be able to regulate an entire data center? You know, our groundwater is at risk. Our emotional well-being is at risk. Everything that I've read about these and talk to people that actually live anywhere near them, the noises that they give off are incredible, and they carry. And we all know that noises in our valley carry and things echo off the mountains. So let's look at groundwater noises and the fact that the citizens, the taxpaying citizens are saying no. So please do the right thing for once. Vote no. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down up front, please.
Voice Phear it at 5:21:47
Tony Hoverman, h o v e r m a m. It doesn't matter if we have tax benefits. There's no when the water runs out, the water runs out. I moved here in October 2020. And the first three years that I lived here, I live on the South Side, everybody knows that by now, on McGraw. It would snow twice in February on McGraw, and it snowed enough to where my car handles on my the handles on my cars froze. Well, last three years, we've had no snow on the Gros in February. We haven't had a decent monsoon either. The last decent monsoon we had flooded out Southwest. It was awesome. We haven't had the rain. We don't have the water. The basin's not filling up. The mountains have not looked like they looked in '21, '22, and '23. We can't do this. We don't have the water. And the pollutants from these things, cancer. That's the word. Cancer. And all these little kids that are growing up out here in the valley, what kind of future are they gonna have if they all start getting sick because of the crap that's going on with these data centers? I'm hoping I'm dead by the time we get one out here, but I just don't think it's right. The people don't want a data center. We don't want a recycling center for solar panels. We don't want meta waste. With anything that has to do with recycling or waste or pollution or data centers. We we don't have the water to support the data centers. I don't care what anybody tells you about the water table. If it's not raining, it's not being replenished. You sell us out, you guys are gonna screw yourself on your own property values also, not just us, but yours will go down too unless you plan on bailing out of here before it actually happens. But there are some people out here like me. I don't have the money. My retirement, the money I've earned and saved and worked hard for, I paid for my cash for my property and my little trailer. I can't get up and move to somewhere else. I don't have a pile of money. I live on my deceased husband's Social Security. So I'm basically screwed if we get a data center. It's not fair. Some of the people don't want it, and it shouldn't be here. It should not be at all in the state of Nevada. There's no Thank you. There's no water.
Voice Bhear it at 5:24:53
Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:24:57
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ihear it at 5:25:03
Bruce Johnson, j o h n s o n, and I'm opposed to data center. So I would appreciate if you guys would judge accordingly.
Voice Bhear it at 5:25:13
Thank you. Thank you. Go ahead, Linda.
Voice Qhear it at 5:25:16
Linda Clark, CLARK. From everything I've seen, I don't see one good reason why we need those things here. If you think there is, tell us. Everything that it will do will ruin everything we have. And I don't think that's fair to the constituents. We pay our rent. We pay our house payments. We pay our taxes. We pay our HOA. We try to be good citizens. We try to support our county which has been very hard. And we show up here every month. I've been doing it for over six years, six and a half years, twice a month to listen to this stuff. And I can't understand why we don't have a right to say no. We do, but you don't listen to us and you know that. So why do we wanna put this here? I don't see any financial advantage to us. They're going to ruin everything that we have, especially if you put them in residential neighborhoods. And it doesn't make any sense for all the aftercare that's gonna be needed when we're all gone. And our grandkids, if they're still around here, I don't think they will be, will want to take care of the mess. They'll have to turn us all upside down, dig all the land up, bury everything. Hopefully, they won't do that. They'll ship it back to Las Vegas or Los Angeles, and get it out of here because you're ruining the land and you're living our our people. And it's not fair to us, and I I just don't understand why anybody would wanna consider this mess. Not only that, we have solar, med waste, and now these. And what else are they gonna bring us? We can hardly wait. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:27:03
Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:27:07
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ohear it at 5:27:13
Yes. So my name is Laura Larson, l a r s e n. Regarding data centers, I've said it before regarding the fact that how much an acre foot of water is 3,002, I'm sorry, 325,851.43 US gallons of water. It will be 2,800,000,000 gallons annually a year. These numbers are only for the cooling systems, doesn't include the water usage needed for the electricity for the data center and for the construction. Data centers on the impact of health, air pollution data centers' emission caused asthma, bronchitis, and heart disease. Water contamination, hot water usage, and chemical runoff, written drinking water sources of acrylide. Noise pollution, constant noise for the generator's cooling system may cause stress sleep sleep disruption and hearing issues. Mental and physical stress leads to the increased stress, anxiety, low quality of life. Data center uses enormous amount of electricity, which is the roll down to the consumer from DEA and that the grid was sold to California. Excessive water use that I just explained, which will deplete our water supply. The e water generation produces tons of electricity which contaminates the soil and water with toxic chemicals. Like I said before, look what is going on in Lake Mead and the data center drawing the water from the Colorado River and Lake Mead. The lake is only 32% capacity comparing this to drought, aquaculture demands, and residents use, and there are almost nothing left. And what happened in Lake Tahoe? 50,000 residents are scrambling for power and water due to Nevada Energy cutting contracts with homeowners, and the lake will dry out in 2027. They they banned it from Utah, New Jersey, Texas, and other areas within the country. Approximately, 600 data centers were blocked. I personally I like what you guys put together. However, we need to go ahead and add a ban onto that ordinance that we shouldn't allow it in our community. Our infrastructure cannot handle it. The water supply is over 7,000 sorry. 8,330 acre feet per year, 7,250,000,000 gallons of water, which is equivalent to 4,163 Olympic swimming pools. This is 30,600 uses of Perronk household, roughly all of uses of Perronk Valley currently. We we do beg you to add onto this that it should be a ban throughout the community. Our infrastructure cannot contain it, and we shouldn't allow this in our community. Thank you very much for your time, and I hope you guys, vote accordingly. Thank you. Thank you, Laura. Go ahead, sir.
Voice Rhear it at 5:30:18
Kenyon Salzer, s a l z e r. I know you guys are about the data center, you guys are thinking, well, it's gonna bring jobs. No. It's not gonna bring jobs because the people are gonna be constructing constructing these data centers are bringing their own people here. They're not gonna hire here. And then when they do get it done, I've read up on most of these data centers, there's 20 to 50 employees in there, and that's it. So where are the jobs gonna be when they do build them here if you guys decide that you're gonna build them here, which I'm pretty sure that you guys are gonna say yes because you've already voted on everything else that the people here in in Rome don't want. The other thing is that most of these data centers, even the small ones, take up a $100,000 I mean, a 100,000 homes of electricity. That's what it for one small one. 300,000 gallons of water per day, it's gonna take for a small data center. Now imagine if it's gonna be a big one, you guys are gonna lose. Perump's gonna lose if you guys accept to to have one here. Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:31:22
Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:31:25
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Mhear it at 5:31:30
Helen Lewis, l e w I s. Miss Larson stole my thunder on Lake Mead. I've been watching, Powell and Mead in the Hoover Dam. And even though they have the third straw to supply water to Vegas, they can hit dead pool within the next twenty four months or sooner. Powell's backing up, I guess, now releasing to Mead. The amount of water that goes in is astronomical, but the data centers are malevolent in nature because they run AI, which takes away humans' jobs and takes away all of our our livelihoods. You know, the the bigger picture is to depopulate everybody knows this. Between the between the the the shots, the jabs, and the rest of it, by the way, you can mix and match and it will solve our problem. But, you know, the the home level in nature of AI and the data center to put it here in Pahrump and suck up all the electricity that we're getting in from VEA, And even though it does come in through Grid Alliance, it will drive up prices. I think as Larsson mentioned, the 50,000 homes up between Carson City and Reno that now have been noticed that they have, I think, less than a year to get their own power, which means solar or whatever. How's that gonna work in the winter? So I think the data centers are totally malevolent, totally structured for AI, and we really don't want them. Do the right thing, commissioner. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:33:05
Thank you. Come on down, Susie.
Voice Shear it at 5:33:09
Hi. Susie Hurts, AGRTZ. Thank you, Ian, for writing this legislation. We really appreciate it. It says no, and that's what we want. No. No data centers. We need not to be fooled, however. And, a couple of thoughts that I had. Everybody talks about data centers being cooled by closed cooling systems. So they want you to believe that no water is used and that's one issue. But do you know what a closed system is? It's an air conditioner. So water is recirculating through those systems continuously and guess what cools the water? Fans. That's where the noise comes from. So in case people are not aware of where this noise is going to be coming from, the massive amount of compressors that are required to keep these units cool is something that we need to be very well aware of and, just another reason to say no. I'm hoping that as far as zoning goes for our town and our county that the staff and the commissioners will keep a handle on that because we just talked earlier today about this solar field that's going up near Beatty. And if you read through the background information, you would find that that is to support a data center on private property. So we have to be very vigilant in terms of what we approve and what we don't. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:34:56
Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Come on down, ma'am.
Voice Thear it at 5:35:05
My name is Nancy Yanda, y a n b a. And I just don't understand how you guys didn't have the audacity to try and bring in a data center when we told you time after time the damage it does to us, to the animals, to humans. Get it through your head. Ian Bain, at least he's got sense enough to say no to data centers. You guys better stand up with him and say no. We do not want it. This is the retirement home and the senior centers, senior people don't have the money to just up and take off somewhere else. With them coming in, we wouldn't get deadly squat for our home. So why do you wanna do this and destroy our town? Think about it.
Voice Bhear it at 5:36:00
Thank you. Come on down in front, please.
Voice Uhear it at 5:36:06
evening, commissioners. Tim Sutton, s u t t o n, taxpayer local resident for about eighteen years. When I was serving as your county manager, one of the most heartbreaking things that I saw was how often good ideas, good projects would come forward, and we just didn't have enough money to to afford them. I heard many of those happen today. I mean, there we we talked about, inability to do roads. We've talked about inability to hire police officers. We've, talked about inability to bring ball fields. I mean, there are so many projects that we bring forward because we don't have the, the revenue to bring them forward. So for the last decades, we've tried cobbling together various, pots of money through through grants and through, other other means, but we haven't been able to do that. We are constantly struggling for money. Bringing a data center here would alleviate that. The projected revenues for the projected revenues for a data center are, $108,108,000,000 dollars per year. That's game changing for Nye County. Now obviously it's not all about money. If if if there aren't if we don't have safeguards in place to protect our resources, obviously it doesn't matter how much money a project brings in. The problem and we've heard a lot about data centers over the last several weeks. The problem is that much of the information, most of the information that has been presented to you, commissioners, has been inaccurate or inapplicable to our particular project. And so I and and commissioners, what I'm asking for today is not necessarily that you approve a data center, but that you give us an opportunity to bring forward a project, that you look at the numbers, that you look at, what is being presented, that you look at the safeguards that are being in place. All of the concerns that are raised are either not, pertinent to this particular project or can be mitigated. So but with this proposed ban, we would not have the opportunity to even present that. Now at the end of the day, if we come forward and we present the project and you don't like it and we aren't able to address all the concerns that have been raised today, then don't approve it. But this this ban today, we think it's premature. We think it's kind of a circumvention of the action that you took earlier, which was to, propose a moratorium and to, in the interim, work on an SUP ordinance to regulate and to address some of these concerns. So we'd ask you to at least postpone, if not outright deny the, proposed legislation today. And if anybody is interested in getting the actual data on the, proposed OSFI project, I'm happy to provide that. Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:38:39
Serena, anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:38:43
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 5:38:51
Come on down, Jenny.
Voice Vhear it at 5:38:59
Good afternoon. Jenny Okawa, o k a w a. I agree with all of what was said previously, And I would ask you to vote no on this data centers, bringing data centers to Purim. Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:39:18
Come on down, ma'am.
Voice Ghear it at 5:39:21
Penny Bechia, b e c c I a. And I have to admit, only one person here wants a data center. Nobody else does. Nobody that I've heard, and I know I do not. This is a retirement home, community. Lot of people don't have money to get up and move, and I'm sure our property will go down, not up, if anything, if we're even alive or if we even have water or whatever. But I do not want it,
Voice Bhear it at 5:39:50
period. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Leah.
Voice Whear it at 5:39:57
Leah Aldridge, a l d r I d g e. It's a town in Georgia, and you can go online and look it up. The people that live in these houses are complaining because the noise is twenty four and seven. Their home values are bottomed out. They can't sell. They can't move anywhere, and the water's brown. You can't drink it. You can't bathe in it. You can't do anything. You wanna know the effects of data centers, talk to somebody that lives by them. And, Tim Sutton, he's a lawyer. What's he doing here? Is he representing the data centers? Because he kept saying we we wanna build. We wanna do this. Where is this coming from? So think about this. Let's talk about your legacy. Do you wanna be known as the board of commissioners that voted to kill their own town? Think about it long and hard. They'll sell us out. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:40:55
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Xhear it at 5:41:00
Hello, commissioners. Michael Dailey Garcia, g a r c I a. Can hear you me? Yep. Thank you. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. I know it's gotta hurt when you acknowledge me, doesn't it? Anyhow, I just wanna bring up the obvious, and kudos to the last speaker that was listening to mister Tim Sutton. You know? Wow. That's pretty wild to see him show his face after all these years. Mister Jabbour, you did y'all ever get together about rule 7.52? I would stay away from that also. But anyhow, getting back to this agenda item, you know, we heard about all the all the data center stuff, and I'm surprised none of y'all dog lovers or animal lovers brought up, the farmer's perspective. There's a lot of farmers and ranchers that, have places next to these data centers, and their, livestock has yet to produce any kind of reproductive activities. And I don't know a 100%, but I'd have to say that it has to do with something with the the oms that are coming out of there, the audibles. And I really think y'all need more of an impact study. And, you know, hopefully, my tone's not too angry for you there, commissioner. But I I once again go to Proverbs twenty one seventeen. You know, your pleasure of love is your poverty. So I don't have a problem understanding under the scripture. You know, we need to look up for God's trust and all this constitutional mumbo jumbo on on these items. What is the prohibited use? Or maybe we should say, ask the DA, what's the prohibited person? Or the sheriff identifies that. You know, I thought we were going to a constitutional carry when it came to the second amendment. But, basically, these other things, you got a right to an administrative appeal. Talk about a voiced venue. Wow. Why don't we put in there the subject to the tenth amendment? Let's get real about our constitutionality. Y'all represent that you had one job to protect property, and you can't do that. What's the deal? Our children have a shorter life expectancy than we do. Let that sink in. There's a curve there that you're neglecting or better off sick. They wanna kill the water so they can sell it back to you. I mean, it's it's quite obvious what's going on. The devil only has deception. It's the only card he plays, and your NDAs and your NPAs is is totally totally grossed up from the DA. The DA, the DUI wasn't the only charge. It was a prohibitive person with the second amendment. Right? We failed to disclose that. You don't even know what that means. When was the first, regulation on gun? Let me give you a hint. It was colored after the civil war. Let's get to the constitutionality. You, Michael. Y'all put it right there on please.
Voice Yhear it at 5:44:09
Tom Boatman, b o a t m a n. I'd written a speech and and gave it here a couple months back, I think on June 2, maybe the water board meeting. And I kinda wish I would have brought it with me because it seemed to, resonate pretty well with a lot of people. But, I mean, we can go on and on about the the effects of the data center, the, environmental effects, the psychological effects, the physical effects, the the bees dying off, the cattle are are not reproducing anymore. And that's just the start of it. That's just what we know, and all this stuff is pretty new on the table. The I mean, if you guys or if anybody's being pushed, persuaded, influenced somehow, incentivized, threatened, or otherwise, I don't know. But I can't think of anything more anti humanity. I can't think of anything more nefarious as I said before, what we're looking at. And I'm it's like I said earlier, like a couple of the guys said, if if you think you could just kick the can down the road and and, you know, collect some incentivization here or or otherwise and, move forward, move somewhere else, well, they're gonna put a data center there and your grandkids will suffer, your children will suffer, the environment will suffer, food will keep going up. It's just not gonna end. So let's let's set an example. Let's set the bar high. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:45:36
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Zhear it at 5:45:41
Hello. My name is William Lovegren, l o v e g r e n, chair, commissioners, and fellow residents. Thank you. My name is William, and I'm here today to clearly explain why a large scale data center should not be allowed in Perump. Perump is a rural value valley with limited water and strained electrical grid, and a neighborhood built on quiet, open space and data center threatens all of that. Data centers are not comparable to hospitals or essential facilities. Developers often try to reassure the public saying hospitals have servers too or other facilities using cooling systems. That comparison is misleading. Hospitals, clinics, schools, and government buildings are not data centers. They operate small IT rooms, not industrial scale server farms. They're cooling to their standard. Building HVAC, not megawatt level chillers. Their water use is medical and domestic, not millions of gallons a day for thermal load. Hospitals exist to serve the data centers exist to serve remote corporations. They are not equivalent in scale, impacting regulatory class classifications. Water usage include truth about closed loop cooling systems. Developers often claim that a closed loop system solves the water problems. It does not. Closed loop systems still require large intake water, makeup water that replaces evaporative mechanical losses, chemical treatment that produces hazardous purge water, periodic discharge of contaminated cooling fluid. Closed loop systems also have multiple failure points, gasket failures, valve leaks, pump failures, pressure loss events, emergency venting drain outages. And if valid with a shallow aquifer, even a small leak becomes a groundwater contamination event. No operator can credibly claim zero release. That is not how these systems work. Noise. Constant industrial level noise. Data centers run twenty four hours a day, and their cooling systems never shut off. Those noises come from high RPM cooling fans, chillers, compressors, circulation pumps, diesel backup generators. These systems produce a continuous low frequency that carries far across open desert terrain. Backup generators can exceed 85 to a 100 decibels, comparable to semi truck engines that is not compatible with rural residential Sony and permit alerts the character of nearby neighborhoods. Power demand and grid strain. A single data center consumes electricity of tens of thousands of homes. Trump already experiences, the grid instability. Data center would force expensive infrastructure upgrades paid by the residents, not the corporation. Minimal jobs and maximum impact. The data center typically creates fewer than 50 permanent jobs while residents absorb the water, depletion, noise, traffic and infrastructure strength. The cost benefit ratio is unacceptable. The long term community impact, allowing one industrial facility of this scale opens the door to more, prompts identity, property values, environmental stability depend on responsible growth, not industrialization driven by outside corporations seeking cheap land and permissive zoning. For these reasons, water risk closed loop 15 Thank you. Mister Lovgren,
Voice Bhear it at 5:48:45
come on down in Perum, please.
Voice A2hear it at 5:48:50
Russ Meeds, m e a d s. I think today brought a brought a great example of how the system works. As public, we're allowed to come, voice our opinions, concerns. You guys have to take that in. You have to weigh that decision. You gotta look back and forth. So it it's difficult to decide whether or not this represents the entire community. There's definitely a large portion here percentage wise today that has their opinion about this. Earlier today, we heard a we heard a, an item come up that, for fifty eight minutes, people came up and spoke about the item that had beautiful backup to it that nobody read. They didn't know where the project was. They didn't know what the project was, and they spoke over and over and over about it as if they knew all the answers to it, and yet they didn't even bother to read the backup that had been provided to you guys that you had to go through to read that. A couple of meetings ago, the idea of a moratorium or a pause on data centers in Nye County came up and direction was given to staff to please rush putting together a correct ordinance under a special use permit process so that every single one of these items could be addressed. And if at the end of that process you found there was no way forward, it would die and that would be the end of the project. I urge you today to stick with the process you started. Let your staff put together that SUP correctly, and let that be brought before you so that you can hear it with facts, not just pure emotion from from each and every one of us as as citizens of the community. I'll leave that with you. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 5:50:53
No, chair. Alright.
Voice Bhear it at 5:50:56
We're gonna close public comment. I'm gonna commissioner commissioner Jabbour, what do you got for us? Anything?
Voice B2hear it at 5:51:09
Thank you, Chair. I was still taking my notes, and so I can address while you're doing Please. That, if you're okay with May I address, Mr. Chairman? Sure, sure.
Voice Chear it at 5:51:19
Thank you. You know, I'm here because I don't trust government and I don't trust promises that come from people who are politically connected. I you know, there's poison in our food and poison in our drinks, and we breathe poison. And no one really knows what these things will do. In 2020, we had a doctor with fifty two years of experience as a doctor, best doctor in America, some said. His opinion on mask effectiveness from 1968 to 2020, that's a long time. 1968 to 2020 was one thing, and after he became on the government payroll, he changed his mind on it. That's an interesting thing to do after fifty two years of practice. We're constantly I think most of us up here want to make a difference. I think most of us up here, when we take positions like this, we think and reflect on some of the things that we do. And of course, I don't always expect a victory, and I don't really care about credit for anything. And I just do what I think is best to do. And inside of me is still that bright blonde kid that I was that wanted to be in politics. And I've always wanted to make some kind of a difference. And I know that I do think that everyone who's in this position here wants to make a difference. I do believe that. And I think that what I'd like to do is read a very short quote from President Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, not FDR. He said in 1903, We have gotten past the stage when we are to be pardoned if we treat any part of our country as something to be skinned for two or three years for the use of the present generation. Whether it is the forest, the water, the scenery, whatever it is, handle it so that your children's children will get the benefit of it. Not to the speculator who hopes to get profit out of it for two or three years, but handle it so that it will be of use to the homemaker, to the man who comes to live here and to have his children stay after him. And it's one hundred and twenty three years later. It's always interesting to read, and people think times change. They don't really change all that much. And so I don't know exactly what he was struggling with at the time. I know that someone tried to kill him a couple of years later, And I know that the his he was vice president of his president, Blues McKinley, Harding McKinley, was killed. And he proposed an environmentalist push around the time he was killed, I think a year after, I believe. And maybe it was the silver standard. I don't know. Could have been that. The next Board can absolutely overturn this if they want to do so. And I think that that is if they told them what they want to do, that's fine. There's nothing anyone can do to stop it, just like no one can stop me from proposing something or us from voting for something. But I'll say the same thing now as I did before I took office in that couple of months when everyone was trying to ram through things in the last couple of months, throwing everything through. And I think we had three meetings in December or something crazy, like four meetings in December before I took office. And it's just disappointing to watch something like that. So I this is coming forward because this could have significant damage to the community. We don't know. It could. It could not. We don't know. But I don't want to take that chance. I don't think the people want to take that chance. I really don't. If the next people want to come in and listen to the experts who are paid to have expert opinions tell us that there's nothing wrong with this, then they can vote on that. But as for me and President Roosevelt, I'm going to stand on the side of being against the speculator who hopes to get profit out of our land for two or three years and with the homemaker, the man who comes to live here and his children after him. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Commissioner Jabbour.
Voice B2hear it at 5:55:31
Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Commissioner Bain, for bringing this forward. Some of the comments, some people said do the right thing for once, for once, as if we've not looked at all of the factors in backup and done research on projects. I will apologize to the people that I was not available to come down to Pahrump to the RTC I'm sorry, the RPC meeting when a comprehensive presentation was made. I don't have all of the facts. I've not been able to do the research. As you know, I love to do the research. But what I do have is feelings, feelings from AI, from Google, from other experiences that came through the Internet. I had requested to perhaps go and visit some facilities because I wanted to experience for myself and speak to some town fathers, some supervisors, commissioners, mayors, the residents of what they're experiencing financially and emotionally and their quality of life. But I wasn't able to do that at this time. Yes, there's a potential moratorium that's going to be put in place. We are in a deficit, and I am absolutely not here to hurt anybody. I'm here to help and assist. And what I would ask is to be able to gather as much information as possible, scientific information as possible, and not discounting. And if your comments, because I'm asking the people, if your comments have to be redundant, I won't interpret it as such because this is very important to the people in Please keep in mind that I also have property in Paramp. And I have a daughter and grandchildren. So I'm not discounting what everybody has said, not at all. But are we willing to have some type of town hall as, and I apologize, in fifteen minutes, they're going to have some type of presentation for Metawaste in Pahrump? And I hope as many of you commissioners and staff and people in Pahrump are available to go and to find out and ask. I hope it's not just a monologue, that it's a dialogue, and that they're going to allow you to speak and get your input so you're able to absorb the information from them as I want to absorb as much information and comprehend and to make an educated decision on this item. And by the way, this public hearing, regardless of which way it goes, are we going to have to set another date because this is a public hearing for a bill, or is today final? Because it's the town. So this would be final. So, Chair, I don't know how we want to take a poll. I think the people are still in chambers of are they willing to be receptive to having some type of town hall? And I don't care when it is. I will absolutely be there. I know many, many, many more people will be there. We will hear a lot of the same information, a lot of good information, because these are legitimate concerns. Forever chemicals, giant buildings, largest data centers in The U. S, it's dead. 71% are opposed. Block data centers. We don't want ghost towns. I know about that. I absolutely know about ghost towns. We don't want that. But I do want facts. I'll circle. I do want facts. I want proof. We heard two people that are representing or pro out of 25 or 27 people saying that it's potential $104,000,000 $108,000,000 revenue annually. And if it's for three years, I don't know. They're saying closed system. They would use consume the same amount of water that two Olympic sized swimming pools would use in a year. I think that they need to prove what they're saying. And we the people should hold their feet to the fire to have them prove that information to us before a decision is made. And that it's not harmful and detrimental to our health. But as I say that, I look at you, Commissioner Bain, and say just two meetings ago I called Doctor. Fauci a liar who deceived us, the people, during a time a great vulnerable time in our lives that we had to succumb to and bend our knees to the government, as you say. Don't disagree. So with that being said, Chair, I will turn it back over to you.
Voice Bhear it at 6:02:37
Well, so commissioner, I'm a little bit confused. Are are you asking for a continuation of this? Are you asking I'm a little confused. In order to gain more facts or and potentially have a town hall? I mean, is that what you're looking at potentially? Or are you
Voice B2hear it at 6:03:03
Well, Chair, I meant and I apologize. No, that's okay. I apologize for any confusion. That's okay. Will ask the commissioner if a town hall or plural is an option, If the people are okay with I don't think it's ever been done. If it's not appropriate, I'm certain that you and the D. A. Will say it's not appropriate to take a poll of the people that are here that have spent all day here in hopes that we just say no. But before I just say no, I need more facts. I want more facts. And if those facts prove that everything that has been presented is true, then I am in opposition to this project in Pahrump.
Voice Bhear it at 6:04:01
And I would agree with you on finding the facts. I don't disagree at all.
Voice Chear it at 6:04:13
I'll make a motion to pass Item 12 as written.
Voice Bhear it at 6:04:17
There is a motion on the floor.
Voice C2hear it at 6:04:20
Do we have a second? Can I have further discussion? Further discussion. Because I haven't had a chance to talk yet. Oh, sorry. I forgot you. Okay. Just hide over here. One question I have several questions. First of all, I'm I sort of agree with commissioner that I would like proof also. I've had lengthy discussions with a few people who are proposing a data center, and I have problems with water usage. And when I bring that up, they say they don't use hardly any water. They cool with air conditioning. Air conditioning, as I know it, doesn't use any water. At least in my house, it doesn't. So that's how you do it. That's fine. But I understand that air conditioning, the building of that size uses a tremendous amount of electricity.
Voice D2hear it at 6:05:19
They bring up VEA's inability to ever possibly produce that much, and the answer to that is we're not getting the we're not getting the electric from VEA. We're gonna bring it directly on the wires that you guys just ok'd to be put in, and we'll purchase it directly from the people who make electricity. And VA will get some money out of that. Again, prove it. And the idea of having a big group discussion with the public and having the presentation be done to the public is probably a good idea, commissioner Dane. Yeah. Both of you up there, actually. Because what we're dealing with today and what we've heard today is data centers, how they evolved. Data centers evolved generating a lot of heat, and the only way they had to cool it was to dump a lot of water and blow air through it. That uses a lot of water as we know. But they've come a long way. So I guess my other question to mister Wagner, What's the difference between this and the moratorium we have in place right now?
Voice E2hear it at 6:06:50
So the moratorium that was put in place just a few meetings ago was actually to develop an ordinance that potentially,
Voice E2hear it at 6:07:05
it would be it would be regulations that would be an SUP similar to the solar ordinance that we did that puts, guidelines and and requirements in for developing this type of a facility. This is a Pahrump town ordinance that basically I I I don't know how that works in correlation with the county ordinance versus the town ordinance, but it completely contradicts the direction that was given from the board less than a month ago. The the direction from the board was develop an ordinance. And where are we? And that is in the process Where are we? As we speak. It is the it is in the drafting process. Another month. And we're still Next month, we what? I had said back when that was mentioned that we had hoped to have something in front of the board within ninety days, and that is still the goal. Okay. And that ordinance
Voice F2hear it at 6:08:05
direction was to provide complete control for the board
Voice D2hear it at 6:08:12
on any development that was going to potentially come I, you know, I I get all that. And if I have an ordinance that says you can build whatever you wanna build, assuming it does not use water, it does not generate heat, it does not generate foul smells, it does not create noise. As long as I can control all of that, I don't have a problem.
Voice E2hear it at 6:08:37
But Well, it would require them to prove that That's what I'm the presentation. It wouldn't be a statement.
Voice D2hear it at 6:08:43
But I need an ordinance that does that instead of one that just says you can't do anything. So good.
Voice F2hear it at 6:08:51
I don't know. I'm There you go. Okay. We have a motion on the floor from commissioner Bain. Do we have a second or do we not? Alright. That motion dies as is. Whatever the next number is, please. 27.
15. For Possible Action - Approval to: a. Accept the Beatty Foundation grant in the amount of $26,500.00 to purchase a Dodge Ram 1500 truck in the amount of $57,525.25; b. Execute the Agreement; and c. Fund $26,500.00 from 10340 Grants and $31,025.25 from 24401 Beatty Capital.
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Item 15 for possible action approval to a, accept the Beatty Foundation grant in the amount of 26,500 to purchase a Dodge Ram 1,500 truck in the amount of $57,525.25. B, execute the agreement and c, fund 26,500 from one zero three four zero grants and $31,025.25
Voice Bhear it at 3:52:28
from two four four zero one Beatty Capital. Thank you for that. Hello, Stephanie. Good afternoon, commissioners. We may have Carrie on the line or possibly up in Tonopah to speak on the item. If not, I got her back.
Voice Chear it at 3:52:42
Serena, what do you think? Do you have a carry for us?
Voice Dhear it at 3:52:45
Chair, Carrie is not in Tonopah. She may be on the phone. Thank you, commissioner.
Voice Bhear it at 3:52:58
Okay. Well, if you'd like, can continue while we keep checking Yes. Please do. So the Beatty Foundation provided a grant specifically for the town of Beatty, and this was something that, Carrie Rodomski had sought out. In the backup, it does talk about the award letter, and, we're just asking for approval. The town advisory board of Beatty has already accepted the grant and has authorized the the other half. Essentially, the grant is allowing for the purchase of half of a vehicle. The other half will be funded through the Beatty Capital Fund two four four zero one. It has been budgeted, there are sufficient funds available. I'd also like to mention that the vehicle is being purchased through a Nevada state contract, so there's no concern about where it's coming from and how we're paying for it. Cool. Thank you. Alright. Let's open public comment.
Voice Chear it at 3:53:42
Serena, do you have anybody for us on this item? No, chair. Closing public comment. Commissioners?
Voice Dhear it at 3:53:52
Yes, chair. Go ahead, commissioner Jabbour. I I move to approve and accept the Beatty Foundation grant in the amount of 26,500 to purchase a Dodge Ram 1,500 truck in the amount of $57,525.25 b, execute the agreement and c, fund $26,500 from 10,340 grants and $31,025.25 from twenty four thousand four hundred and one Beatty Capital. Second.
Voice Chear it at 3:54:25
We have a motion on the floor and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Moskovichai. Carries four with one absent. Thank you. 26, please.
16. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS - These are items that Staff recommend for approval. The Board reserves the right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda should issues arise that need to be addressed. Discussion of any item from the Consent Agenda Items that needs review before a decision is made. 16.1 For Possible Action - Approval of minutes of the joint meetings held on April 7, 2026, and April 21, 2026. 16.2 For Possible Action - Final quarterly progress report provided by Eric Whalen with Pahrump Valley Public Transportation (PVPT) regarding program results pursuant to the Nye County ARPA Recovery Plan and Policy: Public Health Assistance-Mental Health. 16.3 For Possible Action - Approval to issue a Consumer and Display Fireworks Permit to Outlaw Pyrotechnics for the 2026 season. Moe Law is the Applicant. 16.4 For Possible Action - Approval of SW-26-2: An application for the annual renewal of the Solid Waste Permit for US Ecology Nevada Inc. Hazardous Waste, Treatment, Storage and Disposal Facility, located at 11455 and 11457 S. US Highway 95, Beatty, NV. Assessor's Parcel Numbers 018-611-02 (80 acres) and 018-611-04 (400 acres). Nevada Division of State Lands - Property Owner. US Ecology Nevada, Inc. (Republic Services) - Applicant.
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Item 16, consent agenda items. This is these are items that staff recommend for approval. The board reserves the right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda should issues arise that need to be addressed. Discussion of any item from the consent agenda items that needs review before a decision is made. This is item sixteen one, sixteen two, sixteen three, and sixteen four, but we are going to pull out sixteen two, sixteen three, and sixteen four for discussion.
Voice Bhear it at 3:06:41
So if you were to vote now, it would just be on sixteen point one. So can we discuss two, three, and four and then do them all at once? Yeah. Okay. Sure. Let's do that. So we're gonna who whoever is requesting discussion on two, three, and four, let's talk.
Voice Chear it at 3:06:59
I am requesting discussion on three because, number one, they haven't paid their taxes.
Voice Bhear it at 3:07:07
That's not good.
Voice Ahear it at 3:07:09
Number two, they're illegal. Oh. They don't have a permit to even operate.
Voice Chear it at 3:07:14
I'm going here. They went they went to the RPC Yeah. And the RPC denied their cup and the waiver. They have no approvals to be operating there because we have directed them to offer all firework facilities have to move into warehouses and not store in containers. They have active code compliance on a property for operating with no cup and expansion of the use with no county approvals. So my recommendation on that one would be to deny 16.3.
Voice Bhear it at 3:07:54
Okay. Commissioner Jabbour.
Voice Dhear it at 3:07:59
Thank you. Thank you. Before I move to sixteen point two and four, I believe Commissioner Koenig was that a motion, sir? Yes, sir. Then I will second your motion.
Voice Bhear it at 3:08:16
Alright. Motion and a second. Let's vote on that one. Shoot. Public comment. Sorry. Oh, go ahead, Commissioner Bain. I was just saying aye. Oh, sorry. Let's do public comments.
Voice Ahear it at 3:08:28
Does anybody have it here? Do you want to open public comment on all I four public comment on all have four to do this four times. Cluster F.
Voice Bhear it at 3:08:37
Okay. Let's open public comments. Sareena, do we have anybody on the phone? No, Chair. On all of them? It's all of them. Any of them? Any, any of the consent items you want to talk about?
Voice Ehear it at 3:08:57
The one I wanna talk about is number three. Perfect. Okay. That seems to be well, they're all bad, but okay. Linda Clark, CLARK. Number three. Okay. John, you just described that they have some violations and things that they're not doing properly. So why would we even wanna consider them? But my main concern is why in the hell do we need another fireworks place? We don't need fireworks. We don't need anymore pot houses. What purpose are they serving? Most of this goes to California or some other place. Okay. We get money off of it and taxes. But you know what? It's not in their backyards. It's in our backyards. And I don't want any more fireworks stands here. We're gonna end up with a bunch of dogs that are lost and hurt because they're running away because they're scared. And I know I have two big huskies and they're big babies. And they just shatter the whole night and the whole week and hide in the closet, hide under the bed, anywhere they can hide in my bed. We don't need any more firework places and they're surrounding this whole community. And why? I don't know. It makes no sense to me at all. Thank
Voice Bhear it at 3:10:17
you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone please? No, Chair. Closing public comment. Okay. So that was a motion We and a already have let's let's vote on sixteen three.
Voice Dhear it at 3:10:36
Aye. To Borzai. Aye to pull it.
Voice Chear it at 3:10:40
Yes. Aye. You voted. Right? What? Aye. Yes.
Voice Bhear it at 3:10:47
Alright. That carries. Four with one absent. Okay. Sixteen two and forty. Please, commissioner Jabor.
Voice Dhear it at 3:10:55
Thank you. Thank you, chair. Sixteen two, usually, we do get a, an updated report. I don't know if mister Whelan is in chambers in Pahrump.
Voice Chear it at 3:11:08
I don't see him. Let me can I speak to that, Bruce? Or commissioner DeVore? Course. The problem the problem with that is several months ago, our friends at NDOT have decimated Punta Valley Public Transportation. So, essentially, mister Whelan doesn't have a job anymore because there's no company to have a job with. And that has taken responsibility, and they've taken all of the vehicles from us, and they've given everything to Southern Nevada Transportation. So they're running it, and there is no, well, the company still exists on paper, but there is no more Front Valley Transportation. So there'd be nothing to give us.
Voice Dhear it at 3:11:57
I see. So, commissioner, thank you for that. If you don't mind, then I'll ask the question then. We approved through the RTC, Regional Transportation Commission, and then moved on and moved forward to the Board of County Commissioners, us sitting as the Board of County Commissioners, specifically for monies for veterans' transportation. And I know that the veterans also, DAV, had provided a grant to the organization. So so with the passing of the torch, was that also passed over to No. What did you say, Southern Nevada? Right. NDOT NDOT did not take,
Voice Chear it at 3:12:48
veterans. They left that with us with no vehicles or anything else. No money is going from the county to veterans or public anything. I've stopped the money that we had approved, and I'm in discussion with, veterans groups on getting a veterans back again because right now we've got veterans who have to go to doctors or do whatever. Yes. And we used to take them for free, and now they can't go. So there's an ongoing discussion, and someone should go take care of NDOT.
Voice Dhear it at 3:13:27
Okay. Well, I thank you, commissioner, for the explanation. I mean, if they took the vehicles and we still have or we, the group, the organization had monies and then it was given back or you stopped it as far as being transferred. So what I'm hearing, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong, is that the organization, veterans, will come back before us requesting almost the same monies back from the county that was given back to the county? We don't know what what's gonna happen, commissioner.
Voice Chear it at 3:14:03
Like I said, we Okay. We're trying to regroup with veterans working with the veterans, finance group to see what we're gonna do. So we have to buy a lot of it's just very confusing.
Voice Dhear it at 3:14:19
I understand. Well, well, that's why I wanted to discuss this publicly, and I thank you for the, information, I think.
Voice Chear it at 3:14:30
Believe me. It's true. It's heart wrenching that we had to do that to the veterans.
Voice Dhear it at 3:14:37
It's very Yes. I well, I agree. And and I believe it was mister Dwight Lilly who who mentioned it would be great if we would be able to put in a program to be able to get people from Pahrump to Las Vegas for medical appointments and including the veterans. So that would be a wonderful project for somebody to take on. Okay. If we're good with 16.2, I will move on to 16.4. Is there anybody in chambers for 16.4 chair?
Voice Bhear it at 3:15:20
Well, who would you like? Whoever is
Voice Dhear it at 3:15:27
representing the company if they are there. Republic Services. Yep.
Voice Bhear it at 3:15:31
I see one coming down now.
Voice Fhear it at 3:15:48
How about now? There you go. Shane O'Neill, o n e I l l.
Voice Bhear it at 3:15:53
Thank you and welcome.
Voice Dhear it at 3:15:55
Commissioner Jabbour, what do you have for Mr. O'Neill? Thank you, Mr. Shane O'Neill. Good afternoon. How are you, sir? Good. How are you doing? Thank you. I well, I know that the report was comprehensive. And from memory, you're going to know exactly what I'm talking about. So on Page six of the backup, sir, number two, it reads compliance or noncompliance of the permittee with the terms and conditions required by the Board of County Commissioners. And the bullet point is U. S. Ecology Nevada did not have any formal violations or enforcement actions in the year July 2025 through June 2026. Are you with me so far? Yes. Thank you. However, U. S. Ecology Nevada did sign a settlement agreement with NDEP for alleged violations and reported self reported you self reported two incidents. One was for improper labeling of hazardous waste containers and the other was improper treatment of the waste.
Voice Dhear it at 3:17:16
Are they a result of each other? Yes. They are. Okay. So I can tell you, sir, that I'm glad that NDEP was involved and that there were no formal violations. And I appreciate the company self reporting. However, from personal experience of being on 95, two to three times a week, in the months of March, April and May, usually in the evening, sometimes in the mornings, a very offensive and putrid odor approaching and departing the vicinity of the facility. So would it be fair to say that it was in due imparting of this improper treatment of the waste? No.
Voice Fhear it at 3:18:15
The smell that you're referring to was most likely from treatment of leachate from a landfill. So it is a agree I agree it is a very unpleasant smell, but that's just the nature of that material. And that project has since completed and is no longer being accepted.
Voice Dhear it at 3:18:37
I see. And am I correct in the timeframe of my experience?
Voice Fhear it at 3:18:43
Most likely, yes.
Voice Dhear it at 3:18:45
Okay. And I thank you for that, Candidness, Mr. O'Neill, because I'm not the only one that travels on 95 and experienced that. And I did receive some concerned calls regarding the smell. But as you said let me continue. As you said, you no longer accept that type of waste from
Voice Fhear it at 3:19:18
entities A, B, C, what have you? We no longer are receiving that material from that landfill where we were getting it from. I'm not saying that we don't ever receive retreat leachate anymore.
Voice Dhear it at 3:19:32
I see. Okay. Well, I appreciate you being there in Pahrump, and I am satisfied with your response. I appreciate it. And please know people are concerned about what we're smelling as we're traveling.
Voice Dhear it at 3:19:57
Thank you. Any further questions? Thank you, sir. Thank you. No, sir. Not from me. Thank you, sir.
Voice Bhear it at 3:20:03
Okay. Commissioners, if there's nothing else, let's take a motion on this. Everything but sixteen three. Well out. Two and three are out. So one
Voice Chear it at 3:20:18
and four. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve 16.1, approval of the minister to joint meeting held on April '4, approval of SWDash26Dash2.
Voice Bhear it at 3:20:36
Chiborah seconds. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Chiborah Zay. Moskovichai, that carries four with one absent. Alright. It's lunchtime. 03:00. Reconvene.
Voice Bhear it at 3:22:31
Alrighty. Welcome back, everyone, and let's open item four, please.
18. For Possible Action ? Discussion and deliberation regarding a request to set a date, time and location for a Public Hearing on Nye County Bill No. 2026-11: A Bill amending Nye County Code Title 17, titled Comprehensive Land Use Planning and Zoning, by creating Chapter 13, titled Data Centers, to provide for a prohibition; effective date hereof, and other matters properly relating thereto.
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Item 18 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding a request to set a date, time and location for a public hearing on Nye County Bill number twenty twenty six-eleven, a bill amending Nye County Code Title 17 titled Comprehensive Land Use Planning and Zoning by creating Chapter 13 titled Data Centers to provide for a prohibition effective date hereof and other matters properly relating thereto. And I would remind this is just set date and time Okay. As far as public comment.
Voice Bhear it at 3:48:24
Alright. Let's open public comments, see if we have anybody wishing to speak on the date and time only of this item. Serena, do you have anybody for us?
Voice Chear it at 3:48:36
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Dhear it at 3:48:43
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. And, unfortunately, I got timed out of that last, catastrophe of an agenda item. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 3:48:56
Come on down in front, please.
Voice Ehear it at 3:49:01
Anthony Greco, GRECO. Set a date and time for after January 5.
Voice Bhear it at 3:49:09
Come on down in front, please.
Voice Chear it at 3:49:14
Tony Hoverman, h o v e r m a n. So I wanna just make sure I understand this, and this is really clear. You guys are setting this up. This is to set in place when you guys are gonna talk about this. Is that what this is saying?
Voice Bhear it at 3:49:36
Date and time for a public hearing, ma'am.
Voice Chear it at 3:49:38
Okay. So when you guys get this date and time for this public clear hearing, you're gonna give us a two day notice
Voice Bhear it at 3:49:46
or a two hour notice? Whatever notices are legally required to be given to you.
Voice Chear it at 3:49:52
It needs to be done after, the January 1. Thank you. Because I don't trust any of you guys. Likewise.
Voice Bhear it at 3:50:00
Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Closing public comment. Thank God. Looking for a motion.
Voice Fhear it at 3:50:11
Well, you can always I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. Go ahead. May I? What is the first available for something like this? August 4. August 4. You can always refile after January. I mean the idea of holding it over through January, this Board could approve 25 data centers in the next three months, Possibly so. That doesn't really make much sense. It could be refiled in a new session. I don't even know if you can hold it over. Can you hold it over for another session? Is that even possible to do that? Does anybody know? Because it's a new session. Can you set a date and time for past? Well, guess you could because we're not really bound by any rules like that, right? There's no rules for that. In other bodies, you couldn't do that. That's fine. You can always refile. I would make a motion to set time and date for 08/04/2026.
Voice Bhear it at 3:51:00
Motion on the floor.
Voice Fhear it at 3:51:03
Through the chair before I Yes, sir. Potentially second the motion. Do we know if Commissioner Strickland will be present?
Voice Bhear it at 3:51:15
I don't know. August 4? I assume so, Commissioner. She never indicated to me anything other than this one.
Voice Ahear it at 3:51:26
I think two weeks she'll be back. I think she'll be back. I I know she'll be back here before the twenty first meeting, so I would assume she'll still be here for the fourth.
Voice Fhear it at 3:51:38
Okay. Jabbour seconds. Alright. Motion on the floor and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Jabbour's aye. Aye. That carries forward with one absent. Thank you. 15, please.
19. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation to: a. Approve a contract with Frank Coumou, Esq. to serve as special prosecutor to investigate and take appropriate legal action, to include criminal prosecution or other civil action, on a DUI case and any related charges due to a conflict with the Nye County District Attorney's Office; and b. Approve funding the contract in an amount not to exceed $30,000.00 from 10101 General Fund.
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Item 19 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to a, approve a contract with Frank Kumo, Esquire to serve as a special prosecutor to investigate and take appropriate legal action to include criminal prosecution or other civil action on a DUI case and other related charges due to a conflict with the Nye County District's Attorney Office, and b, approve funding the contract in the amount not to exceed 30,000 from one zero one zero one general fund.
Voice Bhear it at 3:23:42
Thank you for that. So I have a disclosure I need to make, I think. But I'm going I don't know. Are you sure? Yeah. Okay. Never mind. We will talk to the DA.
Voice Chear it at 3:23:57
I apologize, Eisen, this one. I think, you know, putting down their $20,000 probably took everybody's heart away. But no. Unfortunately, we just used an old agenda item, and I should have I should have updated that. Because the other thing is is that actually the appointment, it does not is not approved by the board of accounting commissioners. That's actually responsibility. That's my prerogative as to who to choose as a conflict attorney. And the other thing is is that I would also indicate that I would cap it at $5,000. It it should not be that much for this type of a case. And with that, if there's any questions
Voice Bhear it at 3:24:42
The only question I have is I assume, and I know this without even asking, that this case will be treated like any other case. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. I've got one question. Go ahead.
Voice Ahear it at 3:24:53
On a case like this one, could we seek restitution if they're found guilty to recoup our money since this isn't something we would normally face with any other DUI case?
Voice Chear it at 3:25:08
I I don't think we can do that because it's not really I just I just don't think we should start doing that. It's, you know, it's not it's not that person's fault per se. What's that? Oh, that they let Well, the DUI is his fault, but the fact that it has to come to the county commissioners, you know, and and have a you know, then have another council appointed. I just we've never done that before, I don't know if we really should start that. It is just kind of the cost of doing business. It's really cost of my office doing business. But the other thing that I do I mean, because right now, obviously, I don't have any budget to cover this. I mean, so it does have to come out of the general fund. But the thing is, you know, this attorney, we've used him on two other matters. Phenomenal attorney. He's a former chief deputy of the Clark County DA's office, probably one of the most respected prosecutors in the state. He did a he's and one thing I like about him is he gets the thing done. And he I and I think even our our our previous actions he's done with us, he's been way, way, way under budget. So we're not even anticipating it'll be 5,000, but I just need to have some contingency there in case something happened.
Voice Bhear it at 3:26:40
Okay. My only concern, like I said, is I had someone close to me have a case last year, and he ended up taking the exact same type of deal that not even a deal. Same guilty plea that anybody else with a first time offense like that would take. So certainly no favors, I obviously I already knew the answer to this one. Go ahead, Zena.
Voice Dhear it at 3:27:04
I actually have one question actually, two questions. It says general fund, but general fund has many departments. And I'm just looking for clarification from the DA where in the general fund is it can it be your department, or are you asking for a special area other than your department to charge it? Is my first question. And my second question is more of just an understanding. And I don't know if this is possible. This is just me looking at it from fresh eyes, I would say, or or inexperience. Can we move this person out of your department and take somebody from the sheriff's office that's an investigator and kinda swap them until this case is done? This is not an investigator. This is a prosecutor. Oh, okay. Never mind. I I
Voice Chear it at 3:28:05
And the the problem is that, I I don't have the budget to support this. This is not part of my budget. As I said last time, I got, like, $3,800 left. I take this out, then I have nothing else to do. So it is unfortunately the situation we're in, but I do need some assistance to be able to prosecute this case.
Voice Bhear it at 3:28:26
Okay. We'll make it happen. Or we won't. All right. Let's open public comment. Serena, do you have anybody on the phone for me, please?
Voice Ehear it at 3:28:49
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 3:29:03
Come on up, Tammy.
Voice Fhear it at 3:29:09
Tammy Pittman, p I t m a n. Hope everybody had a good lunch. We're ready to rock and roll. So I wanted to, call it the attention of the discipline related abuse point two point ten point eighteen and then down from the handbook. So any employee may be found to have violated this policy in the basis of any appropriate evidence, including but not limited to direct observation of the illegal use of drugs, prohibited use of alcohol, or possession of illegal illegal drugs or alcohol, or related contraband, etcetera, etcetera. But it basically ends with employees voluntary term admission, then it can be it gives the gives everybody the rights to up to terminate that person. So he doesn't have to be on our staff, and he can pay his own $5,000. So, I mean, we're we're not I don't think we're really, saddled with this millstone if we don't wanna be.
Voice Bhear it at 3:30:18
Thank you. Serena, anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 3:30:25
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ghear it at 3:30:29
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. Not too long ago, we fired a DA for getting DUIs. DUIs are a really serious infraction. And if this guy's a prosecutor, he absolutely knows he broke the law. He knew he was breaking the law when he got in that car or whatever he was doing, and he should go get his own attorney like everybody else would and and do it that way. And in the state of Nevada, for the first time DUI, you can have it reduced to a moving infraction. You don't have to admit guilt to anything. You just have it reduced. Now my husband was a drinker, and he got several DUIs. So I'm pretty familiar with the state and how they treat DUIs. The first time you get one, you can get it reduced to a moving violation. So I don't think we should be paying for this guy's attorney when he absolutely broke the law knowing that he broke the law. And in his position, that is terms for termination in my opinion. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 3:31:43
Chair, real quick. Can we offer clarification? This is not the county providing him a defense attorney. This is a prosecution.
Voice Bhear it at 3:31:53
And he and he's not a a DA. He's an investigator.
Voice Chear it at 3:31:57
Well and also, the the citation that was cited goes someone who does something while on duty. He was not on duty. So that's why we have issues with acting like we can just terminate him because of a DUI. And, again, that that provision has has no application to this whatsoever.
Voice Bhear it at 3:32:18
Thank you for that. Come on down and prompt, please. Hello. I had to push the button. I don't know.
Voice Hhear it at 3:32:34
We go. My name is Anne Underdahl, u n d e r d a h l. I too have been married to some drinkers. I'm not necessarily in this state, but DUI has a lot of consequences. This person is a professional. At this point, if he's not been to court and convicted, he has to be presumed innocent. But if he is convicted of this charge, he needs to be aware well, he should be aware as an attorney. He's a professional regarding the law that consequential damages would come under his own purview. So from that standpoint, I don't see where this body would be having to pay extra legal expenses for this person.
Voice Bhear it at 3:33:21
Thank you for that. And again, he's not an attorney. He is an investigator in the DA's office. Go ahead, Dwight.
Voice Ihear it at 3:33:31
Dwight Lilly, l I l y. I saw this item and then somebody mentioned to me and I looked it up, there's no backup material at all on the item listing any retainer agreement, any, fee agreement, anything. And then I recall that we had a the district attorney couldn't, prosecute a former commissioner here, and we used a district attorney up in Esmeralda County to prosecute the person. So I guess the question is, we have $30,000 here, but we don't have any way of determining how that's gonna be spent or why it's even $30,000. There's no backup explaining that. So
Voice Jhear it at 3:34:19
Change to 5,000. Excuse me? It's been changed to 5,000.
Voice Ihear it at 3:34:26
Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Voice Khear it at 3:34:35
Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Bhear it at 3:34:40
No, chair. Come on up, Leah.
Voice Lhear it at 3:34:44
Leah Aldridge, a l d r I d g e. I wanna know why didn't the did the district attorney, refer this case to the state AG's office? Because that's usually standard protocol if if there's a bone of contention or or conflict in within the office. Has that been done? And if it has been done, can we see the rejection letter? So why he would be referring it to this other law firm. Also, I'm very concerned that this law firm, to my understanding, I could be wrong, donated $5,000 to mister Coonce's campaign maximum donations and also $5,000 to your campaign maximum donation. Did I read that wrong? K. Stand corrected. So would this be a way for the taxpayers to pay back for that donation? It just, you know, raises more questions than it answers here. So, yeah, refer it to the state AG's office. Let the taxpayers off the hook. That's standard protocol. Get her done.
Voice Bhear it at 3:35:46
Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 3:35:50
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 3:36:02
Come on down in Pahrump, please.
Voice Mhear it at 3:36:08
Hi. My name is Melody Keith, k e I t h. I just don't see why we need to be spending $30,000 on this. If he had commit if he had killed somebody, what would we be doing? He wouldn't have a job. This is a serious offense. He shouldn't even have a job as far as I'm concerned.
Voice Bhear it at 3:36:33
Thank you. Come on up, Tony. I
Voice Nhear it at 3:36:39
was in the commercial business insurance industry for forty years. Can you spell it? Oh, h o v as in Victor, e r m a n. Thank you. And if you've had a DUI, if you were dumb enough to get a DUI, it was you were you don't even come back to work because you were in the insurance industry and there is an implied status that you have to show per professionalism in that in that that role. You can call a friend. We didn't have Uber in the day, you can call taxi. You didn't have to get behind the wheel. That was his dead poor judgment. Mhmm. Ron, kinda like your boyfriends when he got popped for the dope. Yeah. And Michelle Fiori's. Yeah. Why are we paying why is Michelle why is Michelle Fiori still getting paid? She's been off the bench for two years. You have to take that up at the stage. I don't. I'm just saying. Why why is this all this stuff falling on the taxpayer? These people are professional people. They know better. They're old enough and they know better. He can pay for his own legal counsel.
Voice Bhear it at 3:37:54
Thank you. Come on down to Pahrump, please.
Voice Khear it at 3:38:01
Anthony Greco, GRECO. So we're gonna pay a prosecutor to go light on him. Send it to the AG's office. Let the everything fall where it's gotta fall. Let's stop covering up for people out of work for the government that screw up.
Voice Bhear it at 3:38:20
Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 3:38:25
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. The caller may have themselves muted. You need to unmute yourself.
Voice Ohear it at 3:38:38
Go ahead, Linda. Linda Clark, c l a r k.
Voice Bhear it at 3:38:43
We'll come back to him. Okay. You're good.
Voice Ohear it at 3:38:52
I agree with what Tony said. Why are we paying for somebody else's mistakes? I mean, they made it. They pay for it. Brian? Do we not have anybody else in the DA's office that can handle this?
Voice Chear it at 3:39:09
I have a conflict. Every attorney in my office by law has a conflict. Right? Okay. So nobody in my office can prosecute the case, which is why I'm doing what I'm doing. Okay. And I will also say that this individual will prosecute circles around anybody for the attorney general's office. Trying to get any work out of the attorney general's office is next to impossible. And I also remind everybody that when you refer cases to the attorney general's office, they also charge us. It is not free. So there is really no difference there.
Voice Ohear it at 3:39:43
Okay. It just seems like a lot of money that we put up for things in this county that we shouldn't have to. And if if I did what that guy did, are you gonna pay for me? You're gonna pay for me? You wanna pay for me? No. They don't wanna pay for me. They don't wanna pay for you, Ron or John. So I have to pay my own way and my own bills. So the guy makes a lot more money than I do on my social security. So I think he should pay his own bill. We shouldn't have to. No offense to you, Brian. But
Voice Jhear it at 3:40:15
why are we doing that? I don't I don't get it. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Brian, correct me if I'm wrong, but he is paying his own bill. Right? We're paying the prosecute, not to defend. He has to retain his own attorney. Thank you. This is a prosecution's
Voice Chear it at 3:40:29
expense, only a prosecution expense. He
Voice Jhear it at 3:40:32
has to pay for his own defense. Gallery,
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I will stop this damn meeting and clear it. Serena, do we have anybody else on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 3:40:46
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Phear it at 3:40:50
Hello, commissioners. Bruce Johnson, d o h n s o n. Yeah. Sorry about the prior one. I was muted. Thank you for giving me the microphone. So, you know, I understand complex interest. Sometimes they require appointment of a special prosecutor. My question is broader than this individual case, and I've brought this up before. Why is it that we don't have a grand jury in place in order to be able to handle some of these cases? And I'll land it there.
Voice Bhear it at 3:41:22
Alright. So we're gonna have anybody else, please. No, chair. Closing public comment. Commissioners. Wait a minute. How come is Bruce and Ian up there? Oh, there they are. You guys got anything for Brian or anything on this item?
Voice Qhear it at 3:41:48
Well, I barely drink, but I think I'm going to start.
Voice Jhear it at 3:41:58
I didn't drink at all until I started, so there you go. I don't drink either, but I wish I had it at lunchtime.
Voice Qhear it at 3:42:05
I I mean, I I appreciate and I understand, I totally understand everybody that came up. And there was a little confusion as to is it for the prosecuting attorney or the representing attorney of this individual. And the DA has corrected an amount of $30,000 which I was concerned with as well, until he brought it down to up to 5,000. So it may not even reach that amount. And I also understand that if you didn't have a conflict, I would assume myself that because of the affiliation that probably we would want to go easy on this individual versus an outside firm to be hired that really has no affiliation with this individual is going to stick to the facts, stick to the law and prosecute accordingly. And by the way, we did have a public commenter. Any of us that have gone through the jury process, this individual, if he's not been or she has not been involved or been through the court system, they are innocent until they're proven guilty in court. And so we have to this is the system that we live by, and we have to respect that. And it is unfortunate this individual made this crucial mistake in their career because this may if they're found guilty, this may end their career, unfortunately. But we have to go through the process. And I'm not sure that the Comptroller's answer was or question was answered in regards to general fund, but which category of the general fund? Because of the deficit that we're faced with, Zena, have you been trying to navigate to see where we can find this monies for the prosecutor if we were to move forward with this item?
Voice Dhear it at 3:44:31
So we still need to come back with some cost saving measures. And I think once we have a budget in place that has solid programs, cost saving programs, I will be able to give a better answer. So at this time, we don't have the money, but I I acknowledge the importance of this item that needs to be addressed.
Voice Ahear it at 3:45:02
Could it come out of contingency?
Voice Dhear it at 3:45:07
We have, I believe, about 800,000 in contingency. So can it come out of contingency? Yes. It can. It could also come out of LATCF.
Voice Rhear it at 3:45:26
Mister Chairman, real quick. Yeah. I just just to clarify, I am slightly moderately concerned that people don't understand what's happening here. So if we don't do this, then there will likely be some kind of dismissal for want of prosecution or something like that. So it's actually the opposite of what people are saying. If we do not fund this, then the person who whoever this is, I don't know the person, will not be prosecuted. And so then it will set the precedent that if you work for Nye County and some people may not like this, and you're in trouble for DUI, you're not going to get prosecuted. We certainly don't want to set that precedent, but that's what would be happening if we didn't do this. It's actually the opposite when people go up and say that they don't want the money to be spent. So as far as the conflict, these are rigid rules that attorneys have to abide by. It's not something that is a decision of a handful of residents who can say, well, we don't see a conflict These are rigid attorney rules that cannot be broken. You can't do that. You can't have somebody in that office prosecute. So it's a person to prosecute the wrongdoing or alleged wrongdoing of an individual. And if we do not pass this, then correct me if I'm wrong, I think it would just be dismissed because we're not prosecuting. And that's all I have to say. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 3:46:42
All right. If there's nothing further, I'm ready for a motion.
Voice Jhear it at 3:46:52
Mister chair, I'll make a motion to approve the contract with Frank Kumo and approve funding of the contract that amount not to exceed 5,000. I would like to change that to a LatCF, but it just doesn't give me the opportunity to amend, does it?
Voice Chear it at 3:47:12
I don't think the funding source is a
Voice Jhear it at 3:47:14
k. It's a material limit. Lat LatCF.
Voice Bhear it at 3:47:19
Alright. We have a motion. Tabora Circus. Motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye.
Voice Bhear it at 3:47:31
Boscovich, aye. Did Ian did Bank did Commissioner Ian vote? Aye, yes. Aye. Four with one absent. Thank you. 18, please.
22. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation regarding: a. Approve to re-allocate LATCF funds to implement cost savings for the Fiscal Year 2027 budget; and b. Direct staff to implement cost saving measures to reduce general fund spending.
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Item 22 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding a, approve to reallocate LatCF funds to implement cost savings for fiscal year twenty twenty seven budget and b, direct staff to implement cost saving measures to reduce general fund spending.
Voice Bhear it at 4:04:41
Thank you for that. Hello, Zena.
Voice Chear it at 4:04:43
Good afternoon, commissioner. So this cost saving program is to help balance our budget. We have a volunteer program where it will save us in salary and benefits in the amount of $785,000. And in order to have these people leave the organization, it would cost us $523,000. And the cost is due to, usually paying their accrual accounts or an incentive for them to, leave the organization.
Voice Bhear it at 4:05:35
And that $7.85 is
Voice Chear it at 4:05:37
yearly. Is that correct? That is for one full year. Yes.
Voice Dhear it at 4:05:44
And continues theoretically forever.
Voice Ahear it at 4:05:47
Correct. Long as you don't While while the positions aren't As long as you're not replacing, it continues.
Voice Chear it at 4:05:52
And it would go if we did not replace them, that caught that savings would go up year over year.
Voice Bhear it at 4:06:03
Okay. How about we open public comment on this item? Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 4:06:12
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 4:06:30
Okay. Seeing and hearing none, we're going to close public comment.
Voice Ahear it at 4:06:36
Chair? Yeah. One thing I just wanted to add, what this essentially would do was in the budget workshop or the final budget that was approved by this board, we were instructed to or or there was a cut to labor and wages and benefits of 1,200,000, and we were instructed to come up with ways to do that. This gets us to roughly 800,000. So we are still 400,000 away from our instructed amount. So we will be coming back with other ideas or plans to also get the rest of the way. So but this is this is a good start.
Voice Bhear it at 4:07:25
Okay. Thank you for that. Commissioners.
Voice Dhear it at 4:07:28
Sure. I'd like to make a motion to approve, to reallocate, let's see funds to implement cost savings and direct staff to implement cost saving measures to reduce general fund spending?
Voice Bhear it at 4:07:40
I have a motion on the floor.
Voice Dhear it at 4:07:55
We're not talking about food, Commissioner.
Voice Bhear it at 4:07:58
I mean, I want to vote for this. I'll second. Alright. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Mhmm. Spores aye. Laskowiczai, carries four with one absent. Thank you. Oh, here's Stephanie.
Voice Ehear it at 4:08:11
Stephanie. Elliot, for the record, e l l I o t t, can we get an amount that you're authorizing for LA TCF on this?
Voice Ehear it at 4:08:22
There's not enough information in the backup.
Voice Bhear it at 4:08:29
Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Agreed. 25 please, Bo. Or not Bo. Do you want to read it?
Voice Ahear it at 4:08:51
I was confused because Bose
Voice Bhear it at 4:08:54
I know. I was so different.
Voice Ahear it at 4:09:00
Alright. Which item was it again? 25. 25.
23. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation to: a. Approve, amend and approve, or reject an agreement between Nye County and Inyo County California for the purpose of utilizing the site and tower located at 3650 Kellogg Rd, Pahrump NV, for purposes of two new VHF Public Safety Communications relays to support First Responder communication in the area of the Tecopa highway with an initial term, ending April 1, 2031, and may be renewed for an additional three (3) successive five (5) year terms; and b. Execute the agreement.
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Item 23 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to a, approve, amend and approve or reject an agreement between Nye County and Inyo County, California for the purpose of utilizing the site and tower located at 3650 Kellogg Road, Pahrump, Nevada for the purpose of two new VHF public safety communications relays to support first responder communication in the area of the Tocopa Highway with an internal or initial term ending 04/01/2031 and may be renewed for an additional three successive five year terms
Voice Bhear it at 4:15:00
and b, execute the agreement. Thank you for that. Go ahead, Brad. Nice to see you. Good afternoon, commissioners. Brad Adams, ADAMS for the record. This is a simple agreement. It is a license agreement, not a lease agreement. This is a public safety resource that will be placed on the tower if agreed and approved. The public safety site will be a relay point for Inyo County for Inyo County dispatch for first responders along the South End of the Prominent Valley. Specifically targeted toward Ticopa Highway. It will be across communication repeater site. So we can utilize it for Nye County resources also. This will have a, or is anticipated to have an MOU between agencies as per the FCC to where we'll have cross compatibility for assisting with mutual aid. Thank
Voice Chear it at 4:15:57
you for that. So standby. I'm gonna go ahead and open public comment. Come on down, Pittman.
Voice Dhear it at 4:16:08
Steven Pittman, p I t m a n. In a previous lifetime, I was an EMT with ICEMA, the Inland County Emergency Medical Association. And being an amateur radio operator for many, many years and a radio technician in the Marine Corps for many, many years, I do know a little bit about radio and what the backup says in this, what they're doing to this facility is an improvement. What their responsibility is for this facility is an improvement and a good thing. And anything that anybody can do to improve radio communications across a challenging area, the no pause are right there. You can't get over them with VHF easily. So this is a very positive thing to do. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Chear it at 4:16:59
Come on up, Joe. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 4:17:07
Hello, commissioner. Michael David Garcia, d a r c I a. Can you hear me okay? Hello?
Voice Bhear it at 4:17:18
Can we can hear you, Michael. Go ahead.
Voice Ehear it at 4:17:22
Thank you very much, mister Jabbour. I appreciate the etiquette. And once again, I'd just like to refer to the chair or perhaps that DA. Is this one of those interlocking contracts I'm allowed to talk? Can I express my First Amendment, or does rule 7.52 negate all of that? I'm sorry? Is there anybody that took an oath to the constitution that's willing to step up to that question? DA, commissioners?
Voice Chear it at 4:17:55
Sir, does this have anything to do with the item? Yeah.
Voice Ehear it at 4:18:00
Absolutely. I'm trying to figure out if I can talk about it because I always thought anything outside of jurisdiction authority of Nye County, you suppress the speech, the discretionary viewpoint, the quick draw, the uncontested draw, unauthorized draw against article one, section one of the Nevada state constitution. Does the discretionary DA wanna weigh in on this? Do we need a special prosecutor? Maybe we need an expert. You never did listen.
Voice Chear it at 4:18:36
Thank you very much. Angry, angry little man. Go ahead, Joe.
Voice Fhear it at 4:18:41
Good afternoon, sheriff Joe McGill. At the risk of overselling the cell, I believe is what commissioner Strickland is her line. I I want to say I met with Brad, I think, two or three weeks ago to the first time discuss this, and here we are. This would be a fantastic opportunity for us to take because it will allow us to have two way communication between Nye County and County emergency services. If we have a pursuit that goes into Inyo, if we have a search and rescue, whatever, or vice versa, they have something that comes into Nye County. We would have communication, and this is a good step. So please take that into consideration.
Voice Chear it at 4:19:31
Thank you. Thank you, sir. Alright. So we're ready for commissioners, what do we have? Anything? Mister chair,
Voice Ghear it at 4:19:48
I'd to make a motion to approve an agreement between my county and Inyo County for the purpose of utilizing the site and tower located at 3650 Kellogg Road, Bronton, Nevada for purposes of two new DHF public safety communication relays, blah blah blah, as written.
Voice Chear it at 4:20:08
For a second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Who resigned? Well, Oscar, that's four zero or four with one absent. Thank you, and thank you, Brad. Thank you, commissioners. Okay, sheriff. Come on up. You're up. Eleven, please.
24. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation to approve, amend and approve, or reject a letter to the Bureau of Land Management, protesting the Final Environmental Impact Statement for the Purple Sage Energy Center (FKA, Golden Currant), published on June 12, 2026. Protest letters are due by July 13, 2026.
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Item 24 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to approve, amend and approve or reject a letter to the Bureau of Land Management protesting the final environmental impact statement for Purple Sage Energy Center, FKA Golden Current, published on 06/12/2026. Protest letters are due by 07/13/2026.
Voice Bhear it at 2:42:56
Thank you, Manager. Hello, Megan.
Voice Chear it at 2:43:00
Howdy, howdy. My name is Megan Labadee, L A B A D I E. I am here to present to the Board for their consideration a letter to the BLM. Sorry, I'm catching my breath. I had to run-in here.
Voice Bhear it at 2:43:19
Do that when I don't see somebody in the audience somewhere, then I call their item. Just kidding.
Voice Chear it at 2:43:26
I can appreciate that. So the BLM published a final environmental impact statement for the proposed Purple Sage Solar Energy Center located in Clark County on the Nye border within Hydrographic Basin 162. The National Environmental Policy Act process allows for a protest period prior to the issuance of a record of decision by the BLM. This letter analyzes the impacts to Pahrump Valley region resulting from solar development along the county border within the Prompt Valley Basin. First and foremost, the letter insists that BLM evaluate impacts to the Prompt Valley from the cumulative impacts existing and foreseeable operations and development. By which I mean there are at least six projects compacted in the area right now that are either existing, approved or in the permitting process with BLM and are disturbing approximately 25,000 acres of federally managed land altogether. The letter additionally protests several natural resources, socioeconomic and public health and safety impacts that should be avoided, minimized or mitigated. And that should basically cover the letter. I'm happy to take any questions you may have.
Voice Bhear it at 2:44:46
Thank you for that, Megan. Let's go ahead and open public comment on this, see if we have any people on the phone. Serena, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:45:00
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 2:45:04
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. I attended four or five different BLM conference calls when they were doing their research for this. And BLM is really not interested in destroying the Mojave Desert because they don't care. They don't care what kind of destruction takes place because when the last, president was in office, this is what their agenda was. Build these things everywhere. Now it's not so much the case. But I know our governor did sign something that approves them, which is probably gonna cost him an election. But the majority of people that live on this side of the mountain are fully aware that they're building here because they're using our water that well owners are selling them. People with water rights. They're selling them regardless of the people that don't want them. Pardon me. I hope that every commissioner who lives here understands there's some of us like me. I'm 80, and I'm not in good health. I won't be able to move out of here. There's a lot of people like me here. You guys, you can go anywhere you want when you retire. You don't have to stay here. But for those of us that call this home now, this is something that we adamantly oppose. We don't need them. If you wanna put a solar a solar system on your roof or on your grounds, go right ahead. Nobody's gonna stop you. But for these solar projects that damage the Mojave Desert and destroy our plant life and animal life, we have to say no. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 2:47:23
Thanks, Amy. Mister Fender, come on down.
Voice Fhear it at 2:47:33
You remembered my name. Nice of you. Can you spell it for me now? Last name is f e n d e n. F e n d e r.
Voice Ghear it at 2:47:42
Was gonna ask.
Voice Fhear it at 2:47:44
As a reminder, I've been at this now for quite some time, at least six years, and trying to stop the solar farm in the immediate vicinity. And I'm gonna remind everybody about this, that a bunch of us put this together a few years ago, and we we support we went and ran the neighborhood. We we made these up. Right here, it shows these seven solar farms right here adjacent to the Clark County and Nye County line. What I've I've read this draft. It's an excellent draft. But what was missing? The amount of water that this particular project wants to use. This particular project wants to use between 901,000 acre feet of water. This is just the one project. Okay? Now we know that Yellow Pine is using an excess of five hundred five hundred acre feet of water, but we don't know the exact number. But all these projects here have to sign in through these environmental impact statements exactly what their plan is, and it includes the amount of water they wanna use. And they get submitted not only to the state, then they get said to the federal, which are in the federal register and through the local PUC, and you get a docket number so you can always find this information. But I'm glad to see we finally have something here. The county has literally written a really good letter to stop this project, And the reason for it is it's mostly water now. Now what we're gonna see here is a lot of data centers coming in, and the only reason why, because we've done a really good job at slowing down these projects. And they want and so these renewable energy companies, they wanna get another source of income, and then they have found it. Now in 2011, the governor governor Sandoval signed a signed an order that permits all these renewable energy projects or whoever wants to build a data center. It gives special little benefits and discounts on building a one of these data centers. And so this has been upgraded now in the last two or three years. So this money is now available, and it's very similar to the monies and the discounts the federal government gave to the solar projects for the Inflation Reduction Act and the Green New Deal. So I am so glad that this county has gone this far. So that's all I got. Press on. You're doing good. Thank you, sir.
Voice Bhear it at 2:50:16
Come on. Come on up, Susie.
Voice Hhear it at 2:50:22
Ditto. Susie Hertz, h e r t z. Just, comment that I am so, so very glad that you put teeth in this and you took the time and paid attention to the fact that Clark County is just no regard for Nye County. They have no regard for our water basin and they have no regard for our quality of life. And I asked you earlier in an earlier meeting to pay more attention to what goes on in Clark County and how it impacts us. And, this is a nice result to see. So please do send this letter and let us stay vigilant on this and other related matters. As I was just reading through the detail on the last project in Beatty and what wasn't brought up earlier was that, the purpose of those solar installations and panels is for a data center. So where there are solar panels, there will be data centers as far as corporations are concerned. And it is my hope, my express hope, and my express request that this board of commissioners strikes down any of those attempts from here until
Voice Bhear it at 2:51:52
whenever they stop. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:51:59
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. Dave.
Voice Ihear it at 2:52:05
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, g a r t I a. Is my connection okay? Can you hear me?
Voice Ihear it at 2:52:17
Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Enjoy the laughter. Know? We need a little more joy. I know. Also, I just kinda want I just kinda wanna bring it home. You know? Not only will the reversal of Chevron help the people, it should help the county. You know? You really gotta come at the lens that Chevron pretty much unalive the administrative rule of law. And all these three letter agencies, BLM, especially the EPA meeting that's going on tonight, the best thing you can give them is EPA versus West Virginia. That already shut them down years ago. With Chevron, you actually have jurisdiction. Nobody has the right to impede or infringe on your jurisdiction, whether it's Clark County, whether it's a state, or whether the federal government does it. The problem is is nobody knows how to stand up to them. You need to throw Chevron at their face and challenge subject matter jurisdiction when it comes to the infringement of the people and y'all's jurisdiction. You know, let's open it up. You know, let's let's stand on common ground. Let's stand on God's trust. Let's use the principles that the constitution was intended. You need to send all of these three letter agencies packing. Not only do we recognize article one section 10 violations, there's also article one section eight, and that's The United States constitution for all you veterans that keep up. But anyhow, thank y'all, and start start enforcing it. Start using the law. Stop using this administrative rule of law, and we need to have them impose it on your federal and state governments also. They have no right they have no right to impede on your subject matter jurisdiction. You're in charge in that county. Nobody else. Act like it. Broken balls, wobbles, however you wanna call it that doesn't offend you. Thank you. Don't get left holes in the bag.
Voice Ghear it at 2:54:12
Thank you. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'd like to
Voice Jhear it at 2:54:17
Oh god. She just have a switch on this. Some kind of sensor. Oh, dear. Linda Clark, c l a r k. Well, I was around when they started with that solar fight that we had almost seven years ago. And at that time, we all got together and supported each other, especially the south end of the town because that's where it was gonna be affecting us. Well, it's still affecting us or going to or trying to. And we said then and we're gonna say now and we're gonna keep saying it. No. And that's my favorite word. As far as BLM, you know how much I hate them? I hate them more than I hate everything else. They're a worthless government. I I can't even say the word. Piece of, you know what. They don't do anything. It's all about them. And I've said that before about a lot of you. So what I wanna say is we don't need any of this crap in this community. God didn't give us this land to destroy it. He put our animals here, our wildlife, everything here for a purpose. And the purpose was not to destroy it. And it gave us the water as the link of life for everything. And we can't keep just destroying it and letting people destroy it. Because who's gonna end up being the one that's gone? Us. And that's not right. We don't deserve that. And so I I agree with, you know, making things better for a lot of people. But these people don't care about us. It's not in their backyards. And I've said that a lot. A lot of stuff we do is not in anybody else's backyard except for ours. And we don't want it. We just need to keep saying no. No. No. And maybe one of these days it might get through their skulls. If it doesn't, then we need to go back to our Calvary Justice. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 2:56:24
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 2:56:29
Bruce Johnson, j o h n s o n. Good wisdom there, mister Garcia. And we hope that all you board members absorb things that are being said. Jurisdiction is changing from history from what we all know it. And all this administrative law stuff, administrative decisions, the home rule, all that stuff is gonna go bye bye. We're going back to the fundamentals. And if you don't believe me, just Google that up, you know, whatever search engine you use, president Trump's words and supreme court words. Right? We're going back to the fundamentals. A lot of statutory stuff has gotten way out of hand. So along with that, there is no benefit in any of the solar stuff. And, you know, the caller that mentioned earlier about these big habibs, you know, when we were set up for the fourth of July on Saturday, I videotaped about four or five different ones that came straight across the field where the fireworks were at. And a couple two or three of those were, like, 200 foot wide. So and, well, that might be exaggerated, but they're they're at least a 100 foot wide. They're pretty huge. These solar fields play a big part in that because of the updraft that is being created from them from the heat that is being dissipated off of the solar panels, and it's causing thermals. Those thermals, along with the geoengineering and the components that are on all these five g, six g towers, which I actually, I'd like to go on the record and ask if any of you commissioners have ever been explained what each one of them components on each one of them towers does. And and I will provide that in an email because I would like for you to answer that on the record. Because if you don't know, then you should know so that we are well informed as well.
Voice Ihear it at 2:58:35
And I thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 2:58:36
Thank you for that. Go ahead, Dwight.
Voice Lhear it at 2:58:38
Dwight Lully, l I l l y. I think we need to change the name of the Highway 160 from the Mountain Pass up to 95 to the Rodney Dangerfield Highway because we get absolutely no respect from the state, the legislature, or Clark County. There was a proposal years ago by Clark County to actually pump the water out of Basin 162 over to Clark County for use by the Southern Water Water Authority. Although they tried to pump water out of the Northern part of Nevada and got shut down by the federal government. So with this infringement here by projects coming out of Clark County over here is really troubling because we don't have any respect. We don't that's why all these data centers are being proposed for here, solar project, metal waste, you name it. We don't have any respect. We don't have any power. So I believe the only way some of this is gonna get stopped is by environmental protests, endangered species, or other items to get the federal government involved to shut these projects down because we're gonna get mowed over by Clark County with their projects coming here. We got hella what do we got? Space ports, solar panels, data centers, waste. We don't even know what the next waste project is come I'm sure there's one proposed, another waste project coming to Perump that we'll have to fight off. But I appreciate the letter, and I do agree with the comment that that letter doesn't have the water listed that's gonna be used, and it's sort of not getting to the point. Because the real point is that based on what security is protected and the amount of water should open some eyes. In fact, I'm surprised this state engineer hasn't even stepped. Maybe he has, but he's been bought off or something. I don't know. Anyway, well, the last state engineer got fired because he didn't wanna go along with it. Governor Lombard, if you're listening, you have lost my vote completely.
Voice Bhear it at 3:00:43
Thank you, Dwight. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Come on up, Leah.
Voice Mhear it at 3:00:55
Leah Aldridge, a l d r I d g e. So let me get this straight. Okay. Beatty wants a solar farm. You guys all listen to what everybody had to say here and nobody wanted it. Still voted to go ahead and prove the development. Anyway okay. And commissioner Jabbour made a point of saying that doesn't tie into the grid, but he didn't say where that power is gonna go to. Where's it going to? The data center they're gonna build over there. Okay? So sorry, but the town of Beatty is dead. They just you know, they just voted for their own demise. See you. Can't get it back. So but, we're all for write writing a nasty gram to the BLM. Somebody told me that stood for Bureau of Lunatics and Morons. So make sure you address it correctly.
Voice Bhear it at 3:01:54
Thank you. Thank you. Come on up, Tammy.
Voice Nhear it at 3:02:01
Tammy Pittman, p I t m a n. I wanna echo mister Fender's statement. I appreciate the letter. I would like to also see it include the water usage being stolen. What anyway, we need to add water usage. But, anyway, other than that, it's a very good letter, and I appreciate it immensely. Thank you. Thank you, Serena. Anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Bhear it at 3:02:29
No, chair. Closing public comment. Commissioners, I just closed public comment. I'm sorry. Come on up. Let's reopen public comment for her only. I got you. I got you. You gotta push the the button.
Voice Ohear it at 3:02:53
Gwen Doyle, d o y l e. Trust me. Has anybody, for god's sake, looked at Lake Mead? The whole state should not be having any data, anything that takes up our water. I've lived in Vegas. I went to desert friendly landscaping to save water. But now look at Vegas and look at here, all the houses that you're coming in. More money, tax money for everybody or for whoever's getting a kickback. And not only that, you get the metal waste. You're gonna wake up some morning and you're gonna have some ailment that you never had before. All this poison is going in our system, poisoning our water. I say no to all this. Lake Mead is going dry. The whole state should be saying no to all of this. And you know what? I can cry. It breaks my heart. And is the is money all that important? Yep. Is all that you're gonna wake up someday, you're gonna die. You're gonna wake up and die. Get all this money that you're getting from these companies, they're paying that you to have them come in. Is it worth it? Is it worth our animals are coming in from the desert. Let's say no. Let's say no. Let's I know what? The money that is being spent on some of the projects here. You could take that money and put spend it on our children and give them things that keep them here for their entertainment. It's money well spent. It's not being wasted. It takes a lot for me to get angry. It take mean, a lot more to get up here. I wish you all well
Voice Bhear it at 3:05:19
and good health. Thank you very much for that. Okay. Commissioners, I'd like a motion if you don't have anything else.
Voice Ghear it at 3:05:34
Mister chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve the letter to the Bureau of Land Management protesting final environmental impact statement for Purple Sage.
Voice Bhear it at 3:05:45
Two board seconds. Motion, second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Or Zay? Oskovich, aye. That carries four with one absent. Thank you. 16, please.
25. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation to: a. Approve, amend and approve, or reject Amendment No. 1 to Task Order No. 9 between AtkinsRealis USA, Inc and Nye County to provide construction support and management services for the reconstruction of the apron at the Tonopah Airport in a not to exceed amount of $153,134.00; b. Execute the amendment; and c. Fund from 10340 (Grants/LATCF).
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'25. For possible action, discussion, deliberation to a, approve, amended, approve, or reject amendment number one to task order number nine between Atkins Realist USA Inc. And Nye County to provide construction support and management services for the reconstruction of the apron at the Tonopah Airport and not to exceed amount of $153,134 b, execute the amendment, and c, fund from one zero three four zero grants. Thank you very much. Hello.
Voice Bhear it at 4:09:38
Thank you, commissioners. Cody McKee for the record, m c k e e. And as county manager Wagner had stated, this is for construction management, inspections, and materials testing for the Tonopah apron reconstruction project. This is grant funded, and we will be reimbursed 95%. So we are responsible for about $7,600
Voice Chear it at 4:09:59
of this cost. It's a nice reimbursement. Okay. Standby, sir. Let's open public comment. Serena, do we have anyone on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 4:10:10
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 4:10:14
Yes. I actually was on hold for the previous one, but I never got called. But I will speak on this one. After looking at the chart from the last one, we have a lot of projects for the airport projects in Total Paw. As a matter of fact, there was 1,000,000 assigned, and then they used a 176,000, and they still had 823,000 left over. So are all these projects gonna be individual with a surplus, or are we gonna use surplus to help furnish all of them? They need it. But I just wanna know where are we gonna get all this money and and what's gonna happen to the surplus on the other ones. Thank you.
Voice Fhear it at 4:11:04
Thank you. Go ahead, Dwight. Dwight Lilly, l I l l y. I don't live in Tonopah, but that airport is essential for people being flown out for medical needs or other emergency type services. And I think it's the only airport that we have in that part of the state. So although I'm not for spending a lot of money right now, I support spending money wisely. And I think there's a very wise investment if that apron needs fixed. And it's also being covered by a large grant, then I'm all for supporting this. Because I believe the people up there need to have access to, again, air travel in the case of emergency or if we ever have any other type of emergency up there. So thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Linda.
Voice Ghear it at 4:11:59
Linda Clark, CLARK. I don't understand all these funding, but I have a question. Maybe Zena can answer it. Do we ever run out of money in these funds, this grant fund LTCHDF, the latch, whatever you call it? Do we ever run out? It seems like you guys just keep taking money and putting it in someplace else. But when does that little barrel go dry? Kinda like our water. Thank you.
Voice Chear it at 4:12:29
Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Closing public comment?
Voice Dhear it at 4:12:38
Aye, Stephanie. Good afternoon, commissioner. Stephanie Elliott, ELLIOTT. Just wanted to clarify that the matching funds, this initially is all going to be paid for the allocated amount that was already approved by this board on May 22. We're not asking for additional LA TCF funding. Once the grant has been accepted by the board, then the 5% match will go back in or be charged from LATCF, but we'll get reimbursed for that. We're gonna continue to utilize that $1,000,000 allocation to pay for other types of airport projects, but mostly to fund the FAA match.
Voice Chear it at 4:13:17
Cool. Thank you. Commissioners?
Voice Ehear it at 4:13:23
Sure. I'll make a motion. Yes. Sure. Go ahead, commissioner. We're in Tonopah. Go ahead. It's your district.
Voice Hhear it at 4:13:32
You. I appreciate the support. Chair, I move to approve the amendment number one to task order number nine between Atkins, Realis USA, Inc. And Nye County to provide construction support management services for the reconstruction of the apron at the Tonopah Airport not to exceed an amount of $153,134 b, to execute the amendment and c, to fund from 10,340 grants, LATCF.
Voice Chear it at 4:14:09
Second. Motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you. Chuburzai. Oskovichai. That carries four with one absent. Thank you, Cody. 23, Brad. Please, manager.
26. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation to consider a letter of support for The Vine Church's MLS GO youth soccer initiative and related grant applications. The letter would support efforts to expand affordable youth recreation opportunities, increase access to organized soccer programming, and pursue grant funding for youth soccer equipment, participant scholarships, and future soccer field development within the Pahrump community.
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Item 26 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to consider a letter of support for the Vines Church MLS GO youth soccer initiative and related grant applications. The letter would support efforts to expand affordable youth recreation opportunities, increase access to organized soccer programming, and pursue grant funding for youth soccer equipment, participant scholarships, and future soccer field development within the Parham community.
Voice Bhear it at 3:55:10
Thank thank you for that. Who is handling this for our petitioner? Is he on the phone or
Voice Chear it at 3:55:18
you're Yes, sir. He's on the phone. Can he please press 9 to raise his hand? The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Dhear it at 3:55:33
Hi. Good afternoon, commissioners. My name is, pastor Julio Diaz. Last name is d I a z, and I serve as pastor of the Vine Church here in Toronto. And, I wanna thank you for allowing me to speak today. So we're requesting a letter of support for our MLS GO youth soccer initiative, which is being launched to provide affordable recreational soccer opportunities for children and families in front. We are an approved MLS goal operator and are preparing to launch our first season this fall. And as a part of this effort, we're pursuing outside grant opportunities that can help provide youth soccer equipment, player scholarship, and future field development. Some of these grants require letters of support from local community leaders or our local government. One of the larger opportunities we're looking at is connected with the MLS Co field development, and then being an approved MLS Co operator is one of the requirements. And since we're already an approved operator, we would just need a county letter of support to strengthen our ability to pursue those funds. Our long term goal is to develop approximately two acres of our church owned land in in phases for youth soccer and recreational space. And we're actually have a couple businesses that are in support of this. They've provided written commitments for discounted thoughts through value thought and irrigation support through Star Nursery. And if we're able to secure these outside grant funding, those discounts would help stretch the granddaughters allowed through MFGO and to be able to create a soccer field and a youth youth area for the community. So we're we're not asking for any county funding. This letter would just allow us to simply be able to receive the support from Nye County and be able to submit that to MLS so that they can see that you guys are in support of our effort.
Voice Bhear it at 3:57:48
Okay. Thank you for that, and I appreciate your patience. I know you called in a long time ago also. But No. No. No. It's a bit yes. Yeah. Okay. So if you stand by, sir, then I'm gonna go ahead and open public comment to see if we have anybody that wishes to speak on this item, and then we will come right back to you. Serena, do you have anybody for us, please? The
Voice Chear it at 3:58:12
caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 3:58:16
Yes. Tim Bohannon, b o h a n n o n. It's been my history and and experience that these kind of programs can be a very good thing. We did upward basketball and also upward soccer back east and had a tremendous amount of turnout, a lot of youth involvement, and it was very impactful in a positive way for the community. Doing a letter seems reasonable, but you have to make that call. But and I don't know the history of this this group on the performance on these kind of things, but, you know, programs like this can be very beneficial for the committee. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, anybody else, please?
Voice Chear it at 3:59:07
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 3:59:11
Yes, Amy Nelson, N E L S O N. I think it's really a wonderful program. I was thinking about a soccer field when they were talking about all the all the improvements they did up in Tonopah for the kids, and and that's really remarkable. So, yeah, I definitely am for writing a letter to support this group, and hopefully, they can get more support from the community. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 3:59:40
Thank you, Amy. Go ahead, Tammy.
Voice Ghear it at 3:59:43
Tammy Pittman, p I t m a n. Well, it's a no brainer, isn't it? I would just hope they, invite people other than their church to play on the law on the, fields. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Dwight.
Voice Hhear it at 4:00:01
Thank goodness his church has come forward. Oh, Dwight Lilly, l I l l y. Thank you. Thank goodness they've come forward with an opportunity to help the youth here. I don't know why you wouldn't support them with a letter. So, yeah, let's go ahead and do that.
Voice Bhear it at 4:00:16
Thank you, Dwight. Alright. Serena, do you have I'll check one more time. Do you got anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ihear it at 4:00:21
No, chair. Opposing public comment, and I'm looking for a motion. Through the chair. Yes. Go ahead. Through the chair. Thank you. I have some questions, please. Pastor Julio, are you still on the line with us? Yes, sir. Thank you. Yes, sir. Pastor, with all due respect, sir, I have the utmost respect for all churches and faiths. And this is a great program. And before I put my name to an endorsement in support, as I have no information and so I have a question for you, sir. Is this church affiliated with Divine Church of Las Vegas?
Voice Dhear it at 4:01:13
No, it is not.
Voice Ihear it at 4:01:15
Okay. And so the reason I ask is in going to the Secretary of State's site to do some research. The wine church of Las Vegas shows inactive, and I find nothing under the Secretary of State's office. And please correct me and others if I'm wrong Yes. Of course. Because I need to know what the status is of your parish, please.
Voice Dhear it at 4:01:46
Yes, sir. So we're an organization church organization under the Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ Jesus. We're not a apostolic church. Our DBA is the divine church. We are we do have an active status with the Nevada Secretary of State. We do have an active license and DBA with Town Of Pahrump, and everything is in good standing as far as I am aware. We do have a sam.gov profile. Everything, as far as I know, is current and in good standing.
Voice Ihear it at 4:02:26
Okay. Thank you, pastor. And if you don't mind, could you give me could you give me the the mother the mother church's name again, please?
Voice Dhear it at 4:02:36
Yes. It's Apostolic, a p o s t o l I c, Assembly, a s s e m b l y, of the faith in Christ Jesus.
Voice Ihear it at 4:02:57
Yes? Yes. Pastor, I want to thank you very much for the information and the clarification. I wish that that was on the backup, and I certainly hope that you can appreciate why I'm asking the question because as the commission and support letter, and I will be the first to help carry the torch to support this program, you and your parish under these circumstances. And thank you and and the public for your patience on this.
Voice Dhear it at 4:03:35
Thank you, commissioner.
Voice Bhear it at 4:03:39
Thank you, chair. Thank you, sir. I'm, ready if anybody's interested. Mister
Voice Jhear it at 4:03:44
chair, I'd like to make a motion to consider and draft a letter of support for Divine Church's MLS Go Youth Talk of initiative and related grant applications.
Voice Bhear it at 4:03:56
Mr. Borr seconds. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposite. Boscovichai, that carries four with one absent. Thank you. 23, is Brad here? Brad Adams? No? How about let's do 22, please.
27. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT (Up to three-minute time limit per person) Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item (SECOND).
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Item 27, general public comment up to three minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.
Voice Bhear it at 6:09:43
Thank you for that. In Pahrump, come on down. Susie.
Voice Chear it at 6:09:48
Susie Hertz, h e r t z. Given the conversation that was just had amongst commissioners, I find a fatal flaw with the concept of a town hall that's going to bring a proponent of the data centers to give us an informational seminar on what they're all about. There's something fundamentally different from that and that diff missing from that. Talk about them. Hold on. That is I'm talking about
Voice Bhear it at 6:10:19
I'm sorry. No. It's okay. I was just wondering, d a, are we allowed to talk about items that were on the agenda? No. No. I'm
Voice Chear it at 6:10:26
talking about the format of what you were suggesting. Okay. So I'm suggesting that a town hall Excuse me. Sir sir. Go ahead. Town hall should contain both sides of the story, whatever the topic is. Right. So it should not be a presentation by x company who has x type of an interest and the audience sits and listens, and then we come back here and somebody maybe drafts an ordinance or or changes some zoning. Please allow us to have a 100% information when we do these things. Both sides of the coin completely. Bruce, for example, talking about wanting to go to a data center and explore all of the people who are are involved with it and get some true life stories. That's the other side of the coin in that situation. We're entitled to that. We deserve that. All of us do. So please, whatever you do, whatever the topic,
Voice Bhear it at 6:11:40
please do that from now on. Thank you. Thank you. Serena, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 6:11:45
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 6:11:49
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. Earlier in the meeting, there seemed to be some confusion about my enunciation. I said slum, s l u m. Oh. That was on one of the presentations, but that's what I was referring to. I think that there should be something done with code compliance and senior centers senior citizens rather. There's a couple of people that are very sick, very ill, extreme low income. One in particular is the one that I contacted my commissioner about. Never heard back from him. But there should be something where they contact or use some money that's left over, money that's not being used on that LATCF proceeds account, for example, and help these people get their lots cleaned up. I mean, it was horrible this year. All these foxtails, everybody calls grass, they were everywhere. The weeds were horrible. And I had to look around and find somebody, and thank god I can afford to pay a couple $100, but there's some seniors that can't afford that. And so maybe we can work with code compliance to get some funds to help those seniors get rid of the weeds and and become code compliant so they don't lose their homes to the government. And we had a good meeting today. We went over a lot of things. I've got a list of things here to talk about, but it's way too many. It was good to see how many people turned out. They say for each person that speaks in public comment, there's they they have 500 people that agree with them. So all the people that were here, that tells you there's a pretty large amount of people out there that agreed with some of the items that they were talking about. But I look forward to the next meeting and each meeting that I can be here. Thank you very much. Have a good night. Thank you, Amy.
Voice Bhear it at 6:14:21
Come on up, Ski.
Voice Fhear it at 6:14:26
Shit. Ski Senske, c e n s k e. Can you hear me? Thank you. Thank you. You know, I'm sorry. But at this point, it's been a long day. I can't imagine what y'all are going through. On the good news part, how many people made it to the fireworks show or the parade? I should have got here earlier. The parade was phenomenal. It was the largest I've ever, and I got to witness the ultimate test of patience and discipline. Spring Mountain Racetrack sent a red, white, and blue half $1,000,000 Corvette. They had three Corvettes. Those Corvettes have 1,250 horsepower. And to drive them at five mile an hour? Anyway, so we left there, then we went and the kids had a great time. One of the popular things was throwing water balloons at the sheriff's seventies. Then we went down to the park. You know, I'll tell you what. With all the things that maybe aren't done quite right in prom, sometimes this community comes together and kicks some serious ass and puts everything in a perfect package. The fireworks display, Eddie and his, dad, John, it was incredible. The layout was amazing. We had no incidents. We actually had the sheriff's department post the the undersheriff at our stage. Zero problems. We had one missing child missing parent, actually, that was in the bathroom. But the other incredible part was the auxiliary. You know, though Pahrump Valley was fluid traffic in about thirty minutes Yeah. Which is unheard of coming out of Petrick Park. Mhmm. You know, the amount of work that gets involved in something like that, you have no idea, and majority of us volunteers. You know? Not volunteers, but Jimmy and the people and his staff. I can't believe all the work they put into it. So if anybody tells you they didn't have a good time, then they got a problem, and it's not anything we can solve. So real quick on a side note, Margaret Street, I've had a project on Margaret Street for about fifteen years, and I accomplished the goal yesterday.
Voice Fhear it at 6:16:56
We finally give the keys to the last two tenants out of the nine buildings all over Margaret Street in that sort section. We have all nine of them full now. CES, a big electronic supply company, is moving in as we speak. We have a big ammo supply company moving in. And right now, the total employees, are all local on that little quarter mile section of Margaret Street is a 101 employees, all local, and being paid far above minimum wage.
Voice Bhear it at 6:17:28
And that's all I have to say. You. Perfect timing. Come on down, Linda.
Voice Ghear it at 6:17:36
Realize we're all gonna be late. I know. Linda Clark, c l a r k. I know. I know. Well Okay. First of all, I like you, Brett.
Voice Ghear it at 6:17:58
Second of all, there were so many people who came today. Many of them did wanna speak, but you changed the agenda all around. Yes. You did. And how many items did you count out? Okay. People want to speak on some of those things. And I know you do it all the time. So and they were disappointed and they left. Parents have to go and get their kids, or maybe they had to go back to work, or babysitters going home, all kinds of excuses why they couldn't stay. But there were a lot of people that came today to specifically talk about this data center. And you put it to the last item, the last of the day. What is there? Half a dozen of us dozen of us or more here? I didn't say it. Somebody said something. Who's upset? Behind you. Behind.
Voice Hhear it at 6:18:55
I said it was done on purpose. Oh, of course.
Voice Ghear it at 6:18:58
We know that. Because they do it all the time. Yes. You do. You don't sit there and act like you don't. We know that. You take things off the agenda, you move them around, people go home, and they don't get to speak, and they get very disappointed. And the bottom line on all of this stuff today, you just don't get it. We don't want this crap in our community. It doesn't matter how much they're gonna spend, how much they're gonna promise us, and what they're gonna do to make our community better. If the community doesn't want it, we don't want it. And when are you going to get it through your noggins that are empty that your community should have a say? And we don't. You sit up here. Okay. We'll have a and thank you, Bruce, for suggesting that maybe we have a community get together. It would be nice to do that, But the bottom line is you still have the decision and you don't listen to us. So we'll just keep moving on and hope it gets better maybe after the first of year when we have a new board. Maybe they will listen. I don't know. I don't know. But all I can remember is that I gave you t shirts. And what did the t shirts say? You didn't listen. Your constituents did and we're we are enjoying some of the results of that. I'd like to continue to re pay the results of that because we do need a new change. We need a change in underwear and everything to get this town cleaned up. And, if we say no, it's what we mean. Thank you and have a good evening, and I hope we see you with the Medway soon.
Voice Bhear it at 6:20:43
Serena, anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 6:20:45
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ihear it at 6:20:50
Yeah. Hello, commissioners. Commissioners. Hello, all you fine folks sitting there in the audience still. You
Voice Bhear it at 6:20:57
know, Linda Linda Clark, is that who Can you please spell your last name, sir?
Voice Ihear it at 6:21:02
Yeah. J j o h n s o n. Thank You're welcome for that town hall suggestion. A couple weeks ago when I got chastised by mister commissioner Jabbour that, you know, these guys work, you know, these long hours, and I was asking for something that was just, like, way out there. Right? So, anyway, you know, a lot of things got to talk about today, so I'm happy about that. I'm gonna close with this. The people's liberty is not negotiable. Declaration of independence declares governments are instituted to secure our unalienable rights deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. The Nevada constitution 1864 adopted the common law as the rule of decision. Within that common law tradition, grand jury stands as a historic protection of the people, the body of citizens, not officials, serving as a shield between the individual and the power of government. So, you know, we talked about SCOTUS earlier. We got four SCOTUS cases I want everybody to take note here. First one is Katz, k e t z. Second one is Jones, j o n e s. Third one is Carpenter. The fourth one is Chatree. All four of those, when you put those together, you get a clear trajectory from privacy to tracking, to data, to safeguards, to protecting your rights and liberties, right, as a constitutional right with limits on government. I want you all to think about that. Requirement of judicial oversight. It also who set up where there is more oversight that's required in order to be able to tap into any of your data. So no more of those easy street that we've been experiencing. Yeah. Accountability and transparency. Agencies must operate within the constitution, not behind technology or secrecy. Right? And and that's been proven, and those are written words from the Supreme Court. Everybody make a note. It's up to us, the people now. Rights without action are only words. People must stay informed, assert their rights, document violations, use lawful remedies, and demand that every level of government obey the constitution. An informed and engaged people are the ultimate safeguard of liberty. And I'll close with this. Micah six eight. He has shewed thee, oh man, what is good and what doth the Lord require of thee but to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with thy God. Thank you. God bless you all. Sir?
Voice Jhear it at 6:23:58
Ron Mortenson, m o r t I n s o n. I just got a suggestion probably for the sheriff's department, I think. They have a lot of old cars behind the building out there that I've suggested to people they should sell the cars, put some money in the bank. And one person I talked to about that said, oh, well, we can't afford to remove the radios from the car. Therefore, we can't sell the cars. I mean, it can't cost that much money to remove radios from the cars, and you can put money in the bank. And, you know, if you're gonna continue with the current trajectory of you can't sell the cars because you can't remove the radios, probably gonna have to buy another piece of land for start storing cars on because you'll never never sell them. That's all I got. Thanks, Ron. Wow.
Voice Bhear it at 6:24:42
Come on up, Dwight. Oh,
Voice Hhear it at 6:24:45
gosh. Dwight, Lilly, l I l l y. I forgot to mention at the beginning of the meeting. I'd I'd like again for the commissioner to have a forensic audit of the finances of the county, and I've not heard any response on that or seen an agenda item. I do think we need a forensic audit to get to the bottom of thing. Kind of tying into that, Zena's backup material for the agenda item that I saw is the best backup presentation I've ever seen. And I think it should be standard going forward. If you guys wanna have an item on the agenda for spending money that you provide all of the backup just like Zena did explaining letting it back and forth. And I didn't see that. I saw one item with no backup material all on it today. That was the district attorney's request for funding. And there needs to be backup material. I also saw a correction made by Stephanie mentioning a 2025, what is it, YIACA or whatever it is funding. That should have been in the backup material that by the way, back in 2025, this was in a that wasn't in it, the backup material for the item. So specifics and backup material, think, good. My friend Bruce Shibar wants some facts and proof. Well, there's a lot of scientists who can prove what was brought up at this meeting. But I would suggest another item that would solve this. Take the item to the people for a vote. Put an item at the next vote that we can vote here in Nye County in prompt. In prompt, but prompt specific item, do you want data centers in prompt or don't you want data center in prompt? Let the people speak. Bring it to a vote. What's wrong with the people deciding what they want? Bring it to a vote. Thank you. You guys have a great week. I know you've worked real hard. And I hope we have five commissioners, but I doubt it at the next meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Serena,
Voice Bhear it at 6:26:50
do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 6:26:53
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 6:26:57
Hello. My name is William Lovedgren, l o v e g r n, from Trump. I'm placing the following into the public record regarding the Artesia right of way, drainage, and twenty fourteen MOU matter. On April 6, the county manager's office stated in writing that the staff prepared an item for Artesia was being developed for the June 16 BOCC meeting. That item did not appear on the June 16 agenda, and no written explanation has been provided identifying which office is responsible or whether the item is still being prepared. On June 15, I requested written confirmation of the status. No response was received. On June 16, I spoke during public comment to stop the missing agenda item and the absence of communication from district five, public works, or the district attorney civil division. Yesterday, the public works office contacted me asking you whether I had already received all requested documentation for the record. I have received no records from any department. By April 6, public work records request remains open and unfilled under NRS two thirty nine. Today's agenda again contains no item related to Artesia despite the April 6 commitment and despite multiple attempts to obtain clarification. For the record, I'm requesting written confirmation of the current status of the Artesia Rowe MOU matter, whether a staff item is still being prepared, which office or offices are assigned, whether any portion of the April 6 commitment has been withdrawn or modified, and whether the county intends to place this matter on a future agenda. Given that this commitment originated from the county manager's office, I respectfully request that the county manager provide clarification during item 28 so the record actually reflects the current status. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 6:28:44
Thank you. Go ahead and probe.
Voice Lhear it at 6:28:48
Kenyon Salzer, s a l z e r. This is more for John and Bruce. You guys said that you wanted to know more about data centers around everybody else, what the community is talking about. If you Google this, which only took me about a minute to Google, generally, no. Many residents are not glad to have massive data centers built near their homes. Nationwide polling from Gallup and Redfine reveals that majority Americans actively oppose having these facilities in their communities. The primary grievance driving the local pushback include noise pollution, reduced con consumption, and another word I can't speak out. But if you Google it, you will find out why these people do not want the data centers there. And us in Pahrump, we don't want them either. You guys work for us. We're the people. You do what we want you to do, not what you wanna do. I'm done. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 6:29:46
Thank you. Come on down, Tim.
Voice Mhear it at 6:29:50
Hi. Tim Bohannon, d o h a n n o n. Wasn't that a fantastic fireworks? Pretty good traffic flow. A couple couple opportunities for a better traffic flow at, Mount Charleston and Dandelion and Dandelion at Homestead. Those are two opportunities. Just pay a little attention to that, but, man, it was awesome. And the ability of getting around close enough to get a really good view with a lot of people, with a lot of turnout, fantastic. I'm supposed to do a shameless plug for, ski. Ninety five point one tomorrow night, he will be on, and he will be the world according to ski. So this should be very interesting. Hope you like that plug. Now let me do another plug. Nye County Park and Recreation is meeting next Tuesday night up at Carver's Arena And Recreation Area. I'm sorry. We're meeting at the Smokey Smokey Road Boulevard. We're meeting at town hall. But we're doing a lot of stuff up there. We have we have shoots that are going on continuously through the summer. We are also getting involved with the a b five of zero one, which allows youth to be able to get, mainly high school, to be able to get, high school credit for doing trap shooting. So it's a pretty pretty amazing thing. They have a good team. They finished fourth, in their division last year. They look to do the same, and they've been putting on a lot of shoots with, five five man or five stand trap and different shoots of that nature. And, it's awesome time. Last year in September, we did a we did a grand opening, if you will. So we're less than a year and it's really, solid. Those funds came from our grants from through a nori grant that enabled that to happen. We now have a CDBG grant, and we're hoping to make additional things happen really good for that area. Thank you. Thanks. Serena, anybody, please?
Voice Bhear it at 6:32:06
No, chair. Come on down, Leah. Looks like you might be the last.
Voice Nhear it at 6:32:11
Say the last for the best. Probably just Leah Aldridge, a l d r I d g e. When I came before you guys two months ago and first brought up the subject of data centers, this is for Bruce and John, I've done enough research at that time to know I I don't wanna live within 500 miles of these things. You know? There's just so many reasons, the health reasons, the noise reason. There'll be nowhere you can go in this town twenty four seven and not hear that obnoxious. Also, I also come with a public service announcement, and I know you guys will appreciate this. Public comment is just that, public comment. It's not public conversation. So many people come up here and start with a question. Can you hear me? And and wait for an answer. Okay? I know you guys are are are not supposed to respond because this is our time to speak and say, well, we want to you know, want you to know. We can ask questions, but don't don't wait for a response because you waste a lot of your guys' time, waste a lot of the audience's time. So I hope you're listening, Michael, David, Garcia. Stop with the the questions over and over and over again. It really doesn't get you very far. So, anyway, that's it. I hope that helps.
Voice Bhear it at 6:33:23
Thank you, Leah. Alright. We're closing that out. Oh, sugar. Go ahead.
Voice Dhear it at 6:33:30
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ohear it at 6:33:35
Hello, commissioner. Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. And, yes, I like to know that you can hear me and that we do have a proper connection. Kinda like prayer and you know what I mean? Some people just don't know how to pray to God. Some people might see the answer and never respond to it. I just don't get it. You know? And to the last speaker, the reason why I took to this microphone is because there is badges working outside of policies and procedures and the unlawful engagement of our children in closets. We have no First Amendment. We have no Fourteenth Amendment, which is disgusting. That's the way we go for parental rights when the takings clause should be under the Fifth Amendment. It's enshrined in the Bill of Rights. I've been studying under doctor Shiva with MIT for the last five years when it comes to a systems approach. I do understand administrative law, and it is reversed. And I'm telling you as a father, the reversal of Chevron means more to us parents than Roe versus Wade. Let that sink in. I am up here for the children. That's what got me speaking on this microphone. Cash for kids. Folks didn't understand that phrase until Biden pardoned the judge that coined it. We have trafficking of children through judge Lane's courtroom. I've got 52 ex partes of Kurt Vito as a chief DA wired for an ex parte with the Nevada Supreme Court, specifically justice Herndon, who had a three panel. So please don't don't don't don't don't give me advice when it comes to fighting these local, state, and federal funds when it comes to trafficking their children. I am well aware of CPS. I am well aware of child support. It's all unconstitutional. They have no answers. They talk about constitutionality, and they can't back up anything. It's quite obvious. These are nothing but fraudsters. They're in a suit. I've seen better actors on a on a on a b film. None of this is lawful. I'm talking about our children, our future probate rate of our parents. You know how many veterans I've got buried in a hospital gown that some judge and some attorneys thought they wore their state better? Florida reversed the gun laws. It's a constitutional carry. We have no regulations. Administrative law is dead, and they're still practicing. Why do you think they silenced me? Why do you think I went to jail? Why do you think I wore orange? It's to protect these children. So please, unless you understand where I'm coming from, I represent 21,000,000 parents when it comes to Psalms one zero nine who've all had their parental rights usurped and expelled unconstitutionally. So when you talk about bringing it, let's bring it. Let's go. Thank you. 17.
Voice Bhear it at 6:36:39
Anybody else? No, sir. Thank God. Close that out. Okay. Next item. 20 something.
28. Commissioner/Manager Comments (This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings. Lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law).
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Voice Ahear it at 6:36:53
Item 28, commissioner manager comments. This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff for topics proposed for future board meetings, Lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited
Voice Bhear it at 6:37:10
by the Nevada Open Meeting Law. Perfect. Thank you. Any of you boys up there? Got anything for us?
Voice Chear it at 6:37:17
I don't care who goes first. Yes. Thank you, Chair. So one of the commenters, and I don't know who's left in chambers, I know they wanted to get to the other meeting, which is just as important. But it was mentioned to put the question to the people on a ballot, and unfortunately, we're I think we're too late for November, and the next cycle won't be for another two years. And so that was not my intention, was to stall in any way for two years plus to get this on a ballot. So manager, I will get with you and we'll I'll give you some dates. Let's see what can work. And absolutely, I don't know if Ms. Susie Kurtz is still in chambers or not, but she's absolutely correct. And I agree wholeheartedly that it's two sided. We want to hear both sides. We want to hear the scientific side. We want to hear the project side. Actually, three sides. We want to hear the people side, our side of what's going on potentially or what may not go on as other people said because we just don't know. We don't know. And Google and AI and oh, by the way, Wikipedia. Wikipedia is totally flawed where when it was first introduced to us, anybody could go on and change history. They could change facts. I think they might still be able to. This is wrong that that feature is still available to people to be able to. So that's why. And I understand, Mr. Seltzer, I understand your point, okay? But I want facts. I want to see it. I'm visual. I'm also audible and kinetic, all of the above. And I want those facts and not just the feelings. So I appreciate what everybody has to say, and thank you. And by the way, before I close, there are times, Chair, I know that Michael David Garcia will find this shocking, but I don't disagree with him because there have been times where we haven't been able to hear him or other people. It's just that's his staple, calling in, asking if we can hear him. But there are times that we can't hear people and we ask them to hang up, call back. So thank you. Good meeting, long meeting, tough meeting. And I think I want to thank the commission staff and the employees for staying over time and also the people that are very, very concerned about their quality of life in Pahrump and in Nye County.
Voice Bhear it at 6:40:40
Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Commissioner Bain, you got anything? No? Commissioner Koenig?
Voice Dhear it at 6:40:47
I'll try to make it short and sweet, but I agree on getting both sides of the story out to the people. My problem is all we're hearing basically is the emerging of emergence of data centers, what they were, and they got a really bad name from that. And it still continues because there's still a ton of them out there. But emerging science changes things these days real quick. And from what I'm hearing from the newer people is that most of that stuff has been fixed. Again, like commissioner Jabbour, I want proof. Alright? If they can do what they say they can do, then it may not be a bad thing. But I wanna see it. I've asked if they can take me down to Switch because Switch right now is taking their older data center centers, are cooled by water, and switching them over to the newer way, which supposedly doesn't use water. So I've asked if they can get me to to be able to go down there and talk to those people. Apparently, it's real secret, and no one talks to anybody and armed guards and all thing. But, anyways, that's what I want. I want proof before I commit to something that may be the wrong thing. So other than that, long, long meeting. Zena keeps smiling, so I'm sure she wants to go home too. So thank you, everybody.
Voice Bhear it at 6:42:29
Thank you, commissioner. I will briefly the the audience I wanted to talk to have all left, but hopefully, they'll hear about what I'm gonna say and then pay attention to it. There's a group of I call them the mean 13. They're very, very loud, demanding, assume that they are the only ones on this planet, and what they say, we better damn well do. I'm here to tell you right now, I have been bullied my entire life for various reasons. You wanna try to bully me? You're wasting your damn time. I want jobs here. I want responsible growth and development and the things we need. And by God, that is what I'm gonna do to to help it alone, provided regarding the data centers, provided the facts are are what they need to be. I'm not gonna do anything after being here thirty years to harm this place, but I'm also not going to be bullied by any loud mouth.
Voice Ehear it at 6:43:29
So that's all I have. I know Brian had something. Yeah. I know it's been a late meeting, but I did didn't want one of the comments made to to go un unresponded to. This individual who lives in Artesia who keeps screaming about this stuff, he's flat out a liar. I've had numerous communications with him. I've tried to explain to him what the situation is. He doesn't wanna hear it. And I think it's something that we do have to, I think, address and maybe get something moving because what most people don't know is that the Artesia HOA has withdrawn from the agreement that we had with regards to us maintaining the roads in Artesia. They were supposed to take care of, everything that's basically the side areas. We had the responsibility for the road itself. They have rejected that agreement. They've walked away from it, and that's gonna cause major issues because if we don't get the obstructions that they allowed to go into this area cleaned up, we're have flooding issues. So there's a real problem that we have to address. I've explained this to this individual. He keeps acting like we have a we have to put something on the agenda because he's saying this. The the bottom line is it's, you know, this isn't something that we started, but, you know, I think we we are gonna have to address it. But to sit there and act like he hasn't been told these things is one of those irritating things that I want I wanna wanna make sure there's not this false narrative out there because we have been trying to push and push and push to see what we can do.
Voice Bhear it at 6:45:12
But again have met with that guy three times myself. The last time he was with Laura Larson when I met him, and I know manager has met with him. So If I had a dollar for every time I gave him the same
Voice Ahear it at 6:45:24
answers that DA is talking about, I could buy two family boxes at Yeah. Taco Bell.
Voice Ehear it at 6:45:33
It's not a question. He's not getting the information. He doesn't want to understand or care what the information is. Yeah. But it is something I do think we have to address because it's it's it's not a good situation. And like I said, unfortunately, one of the things that's on the table is the for the county to consider abandoning the right of ways and turn it back over to these to the association. If they're not gonna cooperate with us, do we want that risk of liability for Mhmm. Not being able to keep everything clean and basically water flowing when we have some of the torrential rains we get? So Yeah. I just throw it out there. I think it's something we do have to kind of address.
Voice Bhear it at 6:46:13
Well, thank you. Anybody any other managers or directors or Hell, I don't care. Anybody want to say anything.
Voice Chear it at 6:46:21
No, Okay, chair. We're still stuck on the two Taco Bell boxes. Yeah. Does that does that equate to $16 ish?
Voice Dhear it at 6:46:31
Somewhere somewhere right around that. Yes, sir. I'm thinking manager must be hungry. I was hoping Christy can now a little bunny rabbit that we could look at or something pleasant.
Voice Bhear it at 6:46:42
Sheesh. Think therapy bunnies. Alright. Is that it? Are we done? Can we go? Alright. Let's go.