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July 21, 2026
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2. Presentation of certificates and/or plaques to seven (7) employees honored for their years of service.
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Voice Ahear it at 0:07:50
Item two, presentation of certificates and or plaques to seven employees honored for their years of service. Thank you for that. Oh, here we go.
Voice Ahear it at 0:08:32
If I turn it on, can hear me. There you go. Thank you. Thank you and welcome today. I appreciate everybody being here. So we have some plaques to recognize some people. Ten years, ten years with the Nye County Sheriff's Office, Richard Scherer. Richard, are you here today? Sheriff, did you put him on special assignment? Okay. For your service. But thank you, Richard. Yeah. Thank you. And fifteen years with Nye County Sheriff's Office, Jose Parra. Is Jose here? He's on that special assignment with Richard. Oh, my gosh. Look at this. Twenty years with the town of Pahrump buildings and grounds. Tough job, Carlos Campa. Carlos. See? He wanted you to think he was Carlos. Come on up, Carlos.
Voice Ahear it at 0:10:01
Show all your colleagues. Twenty years, twenty five years. Yeah. Thank you, sir. No. We have a few more. Twenty year, recipients. Can you believe this? Well, we all know this gentleman. Twenty years with Nye County, Sheriff's Office. I'm surprised he's not on special assignment. Gregory Curtin.
Voice Ahear it at 0:10:55
Get a good look at all these people here. Know, he's on the motorcycle and if you're speeding, you know. Okay. So, wow, twenty years. I thought he was here longer. But twenty years with natural resources. John Klinke. John Klinke, are you here? You hiding in the audience here somewhere? No. So John over the years has helped us with our resources, with everything imaginable throughout the county. Especially water. Especially water. Go, John. Yep. Thank you, John. Okay. We have another twenty years. Amy Krueger. Amy, come on up. Dye County Sheriff's Office. Wow. Awesomeness.
Voice Ahear it at 0:12:03
I I heard some whining in the background, but That's it. Must have been her phone. Are are you sure? I'm sure. That's all I have. No. What do you have? I have one more. What? I have one more. You messing with us? No. According to this twenty five year recipient with public works, Joseph Manas. Joseph, are you here today? Joseph? I don't know what that is. We're gonna get him a plaque. You're Joseph? Yes. Thank you. And thank you very much.
Voice Ahear it at 0:13:06
Okay. Alright. Thank you, Commissioner Jabbour. And thank all the recipients. Alright, manager. Let's hit number three, please.
3. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT (Up to three-minute time limit per person) Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item (FIRST).
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Item three, general public comment, up to three minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.
Voice Chear it at 0:13:42
On. Anthony Greco, GRECO. I hold in my hand a federal subpoena, which was just served to Brett and Brian, and the deliberations will start questioning a lot of people in the community that work here on August 7. Okay? So this is not a joke, but I do wanna say that I'm gonna mention three people that have nothing to do with this case, and that would be commissioner one, two, and three. They will not be deliberated. They have nothing to do with the case. I wanna stop the rumors right now because rumors hurt people, and there shouldn't be rumors. You have to have facts when you're talking about important stuff. So there's about 10 people that are in the county that will be getting subpoenas for deliberation, and this case will go forward. The federal judge, the lawyers for the county said that they wanted the case dismissed. The federal judge says the case has too much merit, and it will go forward.
Voice Bhear it at 0:14:59
Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 0:15:03
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 0:15:09
Good morning, everybody. This is Beth Borysiewicz, b o r y s e w I c h. I'm calling about what almost the entire community that is on any kind of social media will call the yard, which is now supposed to be our splash pad. The splash pad that was constructed is nothing like the flyer that was sent around. It has three cinder block walls that are they say two feet, but it looks more like three feet that children could potentially slip, slide into, fall, or hit and crack a head, crack tooth, break a bone, get a heck of a scratch. Anything could be happening in there. On top of that, they put a chain link sense with filtering in the link for what? This is the most atrocious looking thing I've ever seen. I would not allow my grandchild to go in there. It's like they'll get in there, and there could be somebody bullying the younger kids. An 18 old could be in there just, you know, toddling around, and whamo hits the ground. That place is unsafe. I have not seen a safety record. I've not seen a report of any kind of inspection, and I've already served you guys with a formal complaint that I hope that you take and you actually follow through with what should happen, which is an investigation. Let us know what's going on. And I would like you to stop the grand opening on Friday until we have the answers for safety for the children. That's all I'm I care about. I want those walls taken down. I want this thing to be built properly. And the person, I think there was somebody named Honey as well as the buildings and ground department. Buildings and grounds should not be involved, in my opinion, in building anything. They're supposed to maintain stuff, not build it. Where's the architectural plans, engineering plans, the water plans? There's nothing. You guys went and took 289,000 plus an additional amount of money for the wall and build something. And I don't think any of you commissioners have been out there and looked at it. I know John has, but the other commissioners and you allowed this. I cannot believe it. I'm like, you guys have no taste first. Second of all, we need the safety information. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 0:17:48
Thanks. Go ahead, Tina. Alright. We can't have clapping and stuff like that. We gotta keep it chill so we can get through everybody.
Voice Fhear it at 0:17:57
Tina Dixon, representing the SASE trainer. And in 2022, I applied for a grant through the commission and, was awarded a grant and have spent the last two years trying to submit the proper documentation. And I'm doing it here because I haven't gotten any response back that anything that the last bit that I sent was received. So I wanted to deliver it and, know, if it needs to get put in the record or whatever, but I need to close this grant so I can move on. I've worked really hard, with the teams that and I guess I'll back up. What I got the grants for for was to train service dogs for veterans in Nye County, which I have done, and I have submitted paperwork in various forms to close that grant. And so that's what I'm doing today is submitting that paperwork. So I don't know who to give it to. Thank you. I have copies for
Voice Bhear it at 0:19:05
Thanks. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 0:19:09
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ghear it at 0:19:15
Hello, chair, commissioners. Good morning. I'm Bruce Johnson, j o h n s o n. As we honor the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the declaration of independence, I ask this board to remember the foundation upon which every public office in Nevada rests. The declaration begins with the laws of nature and of nature's god. It declares that all men are endowed by their creator with unalienable rights and that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. Nevada carried that same principle into its constitution. In 1861, Nevada adopted common law as its source of jurisprudence that was carried into our article one section two where it declares all political power is inherent in people. Government is instituted for the protection, security, and the benefit. Maximal law, the main object of government is protection and preservation of personal rights, private property, public liberties, and upholding the law of God, American Maxim. That means authority does not begin in Carson City or in Washington or in this room. It begins with the people. Our common law heritage teaches the same lesson. Nevada adopted common law bear with me one second here. Nevada adopted common law. Upon entering the union, including the historical institution of the grand jury, a body designed to stand between the people and abuses of public power. The United States Supreme Court has recently affirmed constitutional limits on modern surveillance through cases such as Katz, Jones, Carpenter, and Chatterton, reminding us that advancing technology does not diminish protections guaranteed by the fourth amendment. And just this year, justice Neil Gorsuch, writing in Trump versus Slaughter, issued a reminder that reads far beyond Washington. We have tolerated adventurous theories long enough. It is time to return all the way to the constitution. And this is just not only for federal agency, but it's for you guys as well. It is a principle for every level of government, every ordinance, budget, code, enforcement action, policy, and should be measured against the constitution. And the authority actually delegated the government. One of the oldest maxims of law teaches the welfare of the people is supreme law. And another reminds us where there is a right, there must be a remedy. Finally, scripture tells us in Micah six eight, he has shoot thee, old man, what is good and what does the Lord require of thee, but to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with thy God. My hope is simple that Nye County will lead by returning in both word and deed to the constitution honoring the common law, respecting the rights Thank you, sir. I appreciate that AI speech. Come on down,
Voice Hhear it at 0:22:26
Good morning. Joe Opatic, o p a t I k. Bringing ingredients from, Lakeview Golf Course. Pleased to provide a brief update of projects, fundraisers, community events held at Lakeview Golf Course during the past six months. In addition to our weekly golf leagues, our monthly tournaments, Lakeview has expanded the schedule of community programs and special events. We have Blood Drive on the twenty fifth of this month from 8AM till noon. This spring, we hosted another successful car show that brought residents and visitors together for increasing activity at the golf course and clubhouse. We've also supported several community fundraisers benefiting fraternal and religious organizations. These events have allowed Lakeview to serve not only the golf facility, but also a gathering place for the wider community. Our tribute nights continue every other Friday evenings and has become a popular and dependable clubhouse activity. This month, we're beginning an indoor battle golf tournament. Contestants can chip a lightweight golf balls into a six by six golf scoring mat. These points and awards are presented to the top participants. This provides a safe and entertaining activity for golfers and non golfers. A monthly golf tournament will begin August 1. For our cornhole tournaments, they will continue in the fall as the weather temperatures become more comfortable. With continued warm weather, we are actively looking for additional indoor activities that will attract residents, increase clubhouse use, and provide affordable entertainment for the community. I want to thank also Arnold Knightley for posting to the town website on a weekly basis and Janie Reeves for posting to the tourism site. With the continued warm weather, we keep read that part already. Sorry. Anyway, thank you for your continued support.
Voice Bhear it at 0:24:42
Thank you, Joe. And I just wanna I wanna say that that golf course is actually making money now. That's the plan. Because of you. Come on down, sir.
Voice Ihear it at 0:24:54
Right. John Pangenejo, j u n e j o. Good morning, commissioners. So when we think about the concept of what a data center is and how it affects us, we have to weigh the pros and cons like we would with any other major life decision. We have to weigh what is claimed to be gained with what has the potential to be lost. If you played a sport, let's say football, and one of your offensive guards was injured, there would be no one to protect your quarterback. In this analogy, the guard is the guardrail against bringing a data center to Nye County. The quarterback is the citizens of our community. They're all the quarterback. Speaking of this analogy, there's been a lot of rhetoric regarding data centers. You have individuals that convey strong emotion for and against. On the floor, you hear key buzzwords designed to rouse rapid response like jobs and the economy and technology and state of the art closed loop systems. And that lends itself to speculation, not only about things like how many jobs and how does the technology add any value to Perum's resins, but also what about waste? And don't closed loop systems have the capability to leak? Let's avoid speculation, and let's focus on what we know from previous data centers that have been built in our country. In Fayette County, Georgia, residents were promised modern infrastructure with minimal disruption. Instead, investigators found that a QTS data center had used more than 29,000,000 gallons of water without proper billing because of utility oversight resulting in a massive retroactive bill. In Cheyenne, Wyoming, a a metadata center promised a closed loop cooling system. Yet during construction, wastewater from that cooling system enters the city's entered the city's sewage system causing bacterial contamination and disrupting treatment operations. Reclaimed water had already been distributed to parks, golf courses, and other public spaces before the problem was discovered. And even if the developers disclosed peak water demand, source of water, wastewater chemistry, discharge destination, how can we take anything they promised but with a grain of salt? What incentive training or ability do they have to protect the citizens of Nye County from illness, and can they reverse that if it occurs? Looking at two recent proposals, one from Mance, which claims to use less than 300 acre feet of water, which is 98,000,000 gallons of water per year, and the other from Austria, which according to a VEA presentation would use 1,600 megawatts of peak electric load increasing by 400 megawatts for each of the next four years. That's literally 1.6 gigawatts and exceeds the 1.21 gigawatts Doc Brown's DeLorean needed to power the flux capacitor to travel through time and back to the future. Water supply, the cost of electricity, and waste contamination does not only affect the people on this side of the room, it also affects your side as well. And I thank you for your time. Thank you.
Voice Dhear it at 0:27:29
You, sir. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 0:27:48
Come on down and prompt, please. Sorry about that.
Voice Jhear it at 0:27:56
Good morning. My name is Laura Stewart, s t e w a r t. And I'm here to talk a little bit about the data centers also. I have many relatives in North Dakota who are being who own small farms who are being affected with this. And in Racine, Wisconsin I think it's Racine. In Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, they are actually filing a lawsuit against Microsoft and their $7,300,000,000 fair water at the data center in Mount Pleasant. And it's the most the world's most power powerful data center is now at the center of the class action lawsuit filed by the nearby residents over alleged excessive noise, construction disruption, and extreme light poll pollution. The lawsuit filed in the district court for the Eastern District Of Wisconsin on July 1 alleges that people living within a proximity of 1.5 miles of the facility have been subjected to continuous industrial noise from cooling systems, HVAC equipment, generators, and construction activity. The proposed class lawsuit would include more than 1,000 households in the Sturtevant and nearby Mount Pleasant. Plaintiffs also claim bright nighttime lighting has disrupted their quality of life. At at least 48 lawsuits have been filed against the AI data centers. Microsoft has acknowledged that its high speed cooling fans produced a humming sound that traveled further than expected. The company says it implemented mitigation measures and announced on June 18 that the measure had been resolved with additional sound with additional sound reduction. However, residents argued that the disturbances continue and are seeking legal action. At least 48 lawsuits have been filed. Currently, least 75 to 142 major AI dent and data centers are projected to have blocked or delayed canceled due to local disputes, community protests, and government moratoriums. Data centers reportedly cost $25,000,000,000 in environmental damages last year. It's like sexual predators. Mega corporations seek to prey on the most vulnerable cities.
Voice Bhear it at 0:30:07
Thank you for that. We don't have anything on the agenda for the data center, do we? No. Come on down, please.
Voice Khear it at 0:30:13
Good morning, commissioners. My name is Heather Marquez, m a r q u e z. I am a mother of six and one of three administrators for Pahrump Mother's Corner. Three years ago, our group stood before this board petitioning for a splash pad for the children and families of Pahrump. When we were later told that the community would need to raise half the cost for the proposed shade structure, we accepted that challenge and organized a bake sale completely funded and staffed by local mothers. And thanks to the overwhelming support from this community, we raised the required $5,000 in a single day. This is proof that our community welcomes this project. Today, as we approach the ribbon cutting and grand opening of this project, we're left asking, what happened? And more importantly, where did the money go? As there is no shade to be seen anywhere near the splash pad or the park. The plans presented to the public showed a welcoming community space where families could gather and children could play safely. The project that is scheduled for its ribbon cutting this Friday looks dramatically different from what the public was shown, and many families feel blindsided by those changes. Beyond the appearance, many parents have legitimate questions about safety. The splash pad appears to utilize a painted concrete surface. While there may be coatings designed to improve slip resistance, parents are concerned about the lack of impact absorbing surfacing in an area designed specifically for young children as falls are inevitable in any play environment, especially one involving water. In a rural community served solely by a critical access hospital with no dedicated pediatric unit and no dedicated trauma unit, I believe those concerns deserve careful consideration and a clear explanation from the county. I'd also like to know whether this facility has been independently reviewed for full ADA compliance, including accessible play opportunities, routes, seating, shade, and other amenities that ensure every child has the opportunity to enjoy this space. But perhaps the greatest disappointment isn't the design itself. It's the lack of communication. If budget constraints, engineering requirements, or circumstances required major major changes to the original plans, the families who helped make this project possible deserved to be informed and have the ability to offer feedback. This community has repeatedly shown that it's willing to volunteer, donate, and work alongside the county. We deserve transparency when the vision presented to the public changes so significantly. So today, I respectfully ask this board to place this project on a future agenda for a public review of the design changes, an explanation of how those decisions were made, and a discussion of improvements that can still be implemented, and to please consider postponing the ribbon cutting and grand opening of the splash pad until its safety can be verified and its construction completed the specifications shown in the original plans. This isn't about assigning blame. It's about rebuilding trust and ensuring that the children of Pahrump receive the community space they were promised.
Voice Dhear it at 0:33:12
Thank you for your time. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 0:33:20
Yeah. I know it's off.
Voice Bhear it at 0:33:32
Come on down, sir.
Voice Mhear it at 0:33:37
Tim Doyle, t I m d o y l e. Good morning, chairman, commissioners, and members of the public. My name is Tim Doyle. Thank you for allowing me to speak. Several months ago, I became aware of what I understood to be a recreational lake at Spring Mountain Raceway. As part of my research, I submit a public record request seeking information about the lake. I was surprised to discover that the county approved an RV site an RV park site plan, which does not identify it as a recreational lake at all. It identifies it as a drainage basin. There's the drainage basin. A drainage basin is generally an engineered area designed to collect, temporarily store, and safely convey storm water runoff to help reduce flooding and to protect surrounding properties. What made this discovery even more surprising is that I also located a 2014 development agreement recorded in 2021 discussing the construction of a six acre recreational lake for public recreation and drainage control. The original lake was later removed, and the replacement water feature now appears on the approved site plan only as a drainage basin. Unlike the original lake described in the development agreement, the replacement water feature appears to be a private amenity within the RV park inside the raceway rather than a public recreational lake. However, the feature remains continuously filled, includes recreation improvements, and has been publicly depicted with a person paddle boarding. Based on the information available to me, I have not identified drainage entering or leaving it. I submitted three public record requests seeking permits, engineering, and drainage studies, construction plans, inspections, reviews, water use records, records, and documentation explaining the basin's approval and classification. I included photographs identifying the feature and its recreational use. I have not received any of those records. I then submitted a county complaint concerning the apparent absence of responsive records. After receiving no response, I contacted town manager Brett Wagoneer. I did not receive a response a response from the town manager. A water comparison is important. Using a published Southern Nevada evaporation estimate, a six acre open water surface can lose approximately 34,800 gallons daily or 12,000,000 gallons annually. By comparison, the proposed Blackjack data center has been estimated, assuming dry cooling, to consume 15,000 to 55,000 gallons daily or roughly five to 20,000,000 gallons annually. So they are equal in water usage, the data center and the lake. These are estimates, but they illustrate why consistent public discussion of water use is appropriate. I also researched Nevada contractor licensing. For those unfamiliar with these classifications, a drainage basin is commonly associated with excavation and grading work, which may fall under A7 excavation and grading license. However, if a project is constructed as a recreational lake that impounds or stores water, Nevada also has a specific Thank sir. E three classification for dams and reservoirs. Thank you, sir. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Lhear it at 0:36:52
Morning, commissioners. Gregory McMahon, m c capital m a h o n. On June 5, all of you, all five of you voted for a moratorium on data centers. And during this moratorium, you were gonna come up with ordinances in the event that they would move forward, laws that would have to be in place. I'd like to know what you guys have come up with. You know? What have you what are you ready to present us? What I'm hoping is that we don't show up on August 4, and you have a bill to present that says, yeah, data centers can go forward if they do these rules. I'd like to have a two way conversation or something, all of us would, with you guys to hear your thoughts and to be able to respond to your thoughts. Some of the ordinance I think are important would be before changing any heavy industrial zoning or approving another data center. Nye County should formally adopt these following protections and then strengthen them. There should be no evaporative cooling. There should be a 100% no chance of waste leaking. There should be full public disclosure of direct and power related water consumption. There should be mandatory water use efficiency reporting independently verified every year. No no potable water should be used. No infrastructure, power, or water costs could be shifted to existing residents. Authority for county utilities to deny service when supplies are inadequate should be in place. Full cumulative impact analysis across every proposed project should be in place. Meaning, full separation from homes, schools, wells, and agricultural operations should be in place? What are the emission restrictions? What are the noise restrictions? There should be no grandfathering of pending projects into weaker standards, and there should be no permit until the developer identifies the end user and proves the water power and public benefit. The the burden of proof really needs to be with the developers, not with us property owners whose wells, rates, and homes, and future are being placed at risk. Now I would also urge all five of commissioners attend this next informal meeting on July 25 so that we can hear each of your thoughts on the ordinances and hear why you wanna ban data centers or hear why you don't wanna ban them and and and what the reasons are. Don't just spring it on us on August 4. This this is supposed to be full transparency. You're supposed to be representing us. So let's let's be open about this. Let's talk about it. Thank you, commissioners.
Voice Bhear it at 0:39:44
Thank you. And I will remind everybody on this coming Saturday, 10AM, Commissioner Bain and Commissioner Jabbour have got a meeting to discuss this 10AM Forum. Forum. Forum. 10AM in this location. So you'll be able to talk about that however you like. Come on down, please.
Voice Nhear it at 0:40:07
Hi. Good morning, commissioners and public officials. My name is Katarina Sapulveda, k a t a r I n a s e p u l v e d a. I'm a member of Nevada Maternal Health Coalition, Prevent Child Abuse Nevada, and also a health care provider here in Princeton. I'm a champion for maternal and child rights. I do see that the recent splash pad is a huge health, detriment to families and children. There are many, problems with the splash pad. I am concerned that families may be injured, and may cause some unnecessary, hindrance to families through injuries. I do believe that we want to, also have more information about the funding for the shade. I was able to participate in that fundraiser, and, we were able to raise $5,000, as a community because as moms and families of Pahrump, we believe in community. So I ask your help in this to reevaluate the splash pad, and please reschedule the grand opening until safety measures are met. And, hopefully, we can all enjoy a nice safe splash pad in the future. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 0:41:23
Thank you. Come on down, ma'am.
Voice Ohear it at 0:41:31
Good morning. My name is Carol Jones, c a r o l j o n e s. I have been reading quite a bit online and on the Internet about data centers, the burning of medical waste. And I believe the community is very concerned about the lack of information, the misinformation, and the lack of communication from sources that be. I would believe it would serve the commissioners and the community very well if there could be some facts given. Hopefully, that will happen on Saturday. Hopefully, that will happen on the fourth. But I believe the community is extremely concerned and upset with the lack of communication. And I don't know the answer to this other than I believe, personally, it would serve our community very well if all the commissioners would put together some facts for the community's understanding. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Voice Dhear it at 0:43:01
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Phear it at 0:43:10
Yeah. My name is Matt Sadler, s a d l e r. Good morning, commissioners. Hopefully, it's gonna be a nice productive meeting. I just wanted to point out something to the to the commissioners and to the the people in the gallery there. Make no mistake about it. The commissioners in in different ways of over time mentioned that, well, we need to hear more input. We didn't really know there's not enough people in here to voice opposition to data centers and this and that. But but make no mistake. They know they know exactly how we feel. You commissioners know exactly how how we feel about a litany of these issues, and I won't get into specifics. But just know that your your legacy and I know I'm I'm beating a dead horse here talking about legacy. But but, seriously, I I think the buck's gotta stop here with you guys. You guys have to start making better decisions. Be more transparent with us. Don't play games. Don't act like you don't know the temperature of the room, you know, darn well. Keep that in mind. Have a great meeting. Thanks. Come on down, Lorraine.
Voice Qhear it at 0:44:10
Good morning. Lorraine, g I l b e r t. Today, I am gonna start with something my sweet grandma taught me. We must take care of our own home before we can help anyone else with their home. The town of Pahrump, and we are a town, a desert, d e s e r t, desert, desert community. Unlike other areas, we don't have dams, rivers, streams to reinvent our water until each and every single owner owner in this town has infrastructure, roads, streets, water, sewer, electric. We cannot give away what you all don't own because you don't own it. The people own it. They are, in essence, your boss. They are the ones that elected you that you are the voice for. Data centers, meta waste, not until each and every taxpayer has those same things that these people want. That's all I'm gonna say.
Voice Dhear it at 0:45:19
Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 0:45:29
Jody Redington, r e d d I n g t o n. And I just received my tax bill for the property that I own up in Calvada Meadows. It is one of the utility challenged lots. And listening to everyone who has spoken before me regarding the issues with these data centers and the potential for the impact it will have on our town, yet having sustainable and responsible solutions for those of us that have land we can't use, this is a huge inequity. And I'm really hoping that there is more progress on the horizon for changing and updating the current zoning to allow all of us that are paying taxes on land we can't use for us to be able to be able to build and live on that land before you start paving a way for these data centers. It's it's just mind boggling to me that that that lack of logic going on here. So you've heard me speak before. I'm still standing my ground on responsible, sustainable solutions that are real and available today, and it just requires updating that zoning, allowing us to live and contribute to the town before you start destroying it with allowing a data center in. That's all I have to say.
Voice Bhear it at 0:47:12
Thank you. Come on down, sir.
Voice Rhear it at 0:47:21
I'm Joe Hughes, j o e h u g h e s. As you know, the existing water rights in Basin 162 exceed the recharge rate, more so probably with increasing drought. The only reason we have been doing okay so far is that not all the water rights have been used. Now there is a surge of new development demanding considerable water use, probably a lot more than they're stating actually, but gonna have thousands of new homes, solar field construction and operation, a space port, whatever that is, big secret apparently, it seems likely that the existing water rights will soon be fully utilized and our aquifer starting to deplete, which means that the water table will continuously drop. And it's not like there is a big lake beneath us. The aquifer is more like wet sand and gravel. There is only a little water per cubic foot. This means that supply excess demand of a foot of water, the water table will have to drop by dozens of feet. So I believe that Trump is already facing a near future crisis of wells drying up, and it will happen very quickly and irreversibly. Then there is the plans for the data centers. In addition to all the other problems of data centers, and there is plenty, they are well known to be massive users of water, all of which is taken from the valuable aquifer and evaporated into the sky. Given that we are already facing a future water crisis, allowing data centers here is outrageous. The nearest other water source is Lake Mead. It's far away, and it's over the High Potosi Pass. And, of course, Pahrump has no water rights there, so we'd have to buy the water from Arizona ranchers and farmers. Yeah. Can we shut down the data centers when the crisis becomes more obvious? Probably not. Will data centers pay for a pipeline after they have sucked the aquifer dry? Probably not. Pretend your well dries up. Either you drill deeper, that's gonna cost a lot, and it might only last a few years because the water table is going to keep dropping. So what's the alternative? Well, bottled water at the store for drinking, cooking, and toothbrushing.
Voice Bhear it at 0:50:22
No baths. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Okay.
Voice Dhear it at 0:50:25
Sam, anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Shear it at 0:50:35
Morning, chair and commissioners. My name is Nathan Whittaker, w h I t t a c r e. I'm the CEO of Stabilis Technologies. And I'm here today, talking about our $76,000,000 broadband grant project. This is an opportunity to bring reliable high speed fiber optic Internet service to unserved or underserved residents and businesses throughout Nye County. And we're prepared to make this investment along with the state of Nevada and the federal government and to start construction soon, but we can't move forward without two critical pieces in place. First, we need a memorandum of understanding and a franchise agreement. This has been in with the district attorney's office since May 22, and we do not have a date or a time when this framework will be put in place. We can't according to the Public Works Office, cannot start and receive permits or construction for the project without this MOU and franchise agreement. Second, we need a clear and timely permitting process through public works. This is a large multi phase construction project involving fiber placement, road crossings, restoration, inspections and coordination with county staff. We understand that the Public Works Department is extremely busy and must also protect county infrastructure and ensure that construction meets applicable standards. We are not asking the county to waive those requirements, but we are asking for predictable process, appropriate points of contact in a timely fashion in response to our permitting applications. We are ready to start construction on this project, and all construction has to be completed by 12/31/2026, or the money is revoked from the state and goes back to the federal government unspent. Again, this is a $76,000,000 project and investment in Nye County, and we are excited to be able to deploy this fiber optic infrastructure to bring high speed Internet to residents that have not had this, and this is an investment from the state of Nevada into Nye County. We respectfully ask the commission and direct the or to direct the county staff to accomplish these things, get the MOU in place quickly and effectively, and then help expedite our permitting applications with public works. And if we do this, we can get this project done and completed to bring high speed Internet to, approximately 12,000 residents in Nye County by the end of the year. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 0:53:08
Thank you, Nathan. Come on down, sir.
Voice Thear it at 0:53:14
Good morning. My name is Damian Coughlin, c o u g h l I n. I'm here about the splash pad. My wife was a part of the group that raised the money. They were told to raise that money for the awning, for the structure before they would even consider starting it, and they jumped on it right away. I agree that we need the safety information because that's not a splash pad. It literally there's no pad there. So we have many splash pads in Vegas, so there's no excuse as to why it couldn't be done. It's our neighbor. We have the budgeting in Vegas. They could have sent that over, told us how to do it, how much it would cost so that we would get the information right away. We would know, as a community, the community who wanted it, what it would cost, what it would take, and the time that it would take to do it. I agree with the design changes. I agree that, it should stop the grand opening. And we're, we're excited to live here. We moved here from Vegas. We love it here. The people here are awesome. The community is great. It's growing. My wife has found great friends, great families here. And the fact that everybody came together for the splash pad just shows how much this community wants to give to the children. And I believe it's great that we're all a part of it, that we're hearing about it today. I look forward to seeing a great splash pad better than any other in Vegas. I think we can do that here. We can have something to brag about for the kids, and, we felt so welcome. And we're blessed to to live here, and I look forward to seeing great things in the future. Thank you. Thank you, sir, and welcome.
Voice Bhear it at 0:55:09
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 0:55:13
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Uhear it at 0:55:20
Commissioners, my name is Matthew Winterhawk, w I n t e r h a w k. I'm speaking general public comment today because this matter is not listed as an action item today, is precisely what item three permits. I'm asking one commissioner to place an emergency data center moratorium, full forensic review of proposed blackjack development on the next available agenda, Nye County residents are not ignorant and they're beginning to understand what is actually happening. These interests are not simply betting on artificial intelligence they are monetizing the entire build outs. A person does not have to own a data center to profit from its arrival, the surrounding opportunities include land, water right sales, real estate options, excavation, grading, roads, draining, concrete, steel, electrical transmission, gas pipelines, substations, battery facilities, environmental permitting, storm water pollution prevention plants, field inspection, engineering, equipment procurement, utility expansion, legal work, lobbying, consulting, political contributions and nonprofit donations used to manufacture community legitimacy. That's why construction overlap matters, that is why every financial relationship contract client option contribution and beneficial interest connected to these projects must be disclosed before any approval moves forward, Hundreds of acres associated with failed residential development visions are now being positioned for conversion to light industrial use for a massive data center project, yet the public still does not know the actual developer, operator, beneficial owners, power demand, water source, water right numbers, cooling system, generator fleet, construction phases or complete supporting infrastructure. This is Basin 162 by the way. Residents already live with the pressure on their wells and water supply. They should not be forced to prove an undisclosed industrial demand is safe while the applicants withhold the information required to evaluate it properly. I'm requesting that an agenda item directing Nye County to suspend every unfinished discretionary approval connected to this project and its supporting infrastructure, require any claim of vested rights to be proven by the applicant a noticed public hearing not decided privately by staff, order a parcel by parcel audit of every claimed water right including priority date, beneficial use, point of diversion, place of use and annual duty and utility commitment, prohibit the segmentation, the land conversion, wells, roads, easements, substations, transmission batteries, solar generation and development agreements must be reviewed as one integrated project not separate And conduct a forensic review of every vote, permit waiver, extension and staff approval that allowed data center development and its infrastructure to proceed under warehouse, industrial, solar, utility or temporary use or conditional use permitting. Residents who are working, raising children, elderly, unable to travel or simply unaware of this meeting have not consented their through their absence of being there. Them not being there is not consent. Let me just say it clear like that. Silence created by inadequate notice is also not public support. Place this on the next agenda. Preserve every record now. Nye County does not owe this project momentum. The developer and every person that's positioned to profit from it owes Nye County a Thank you. Disclosure and answer for three reasons. Serena,
Voice Bhear it at 0:58:25
come on down, sir.
Voice Ehear it at 0:58:27
Serena, hit the button. Yeah.
Voice Vhear it at 0:58:30
Thank you for allowing me to speak with you this morning. I'm doctor Ray Kelly, r a e k e l l y. In addressing the issue of data centers in our valley, there are five areas of concern which you are already aware. Air air pollution, light pollution, water depletion, noise pollution, and the drain on our power grid with increased costs. There are a number of governmental and private studies done that review issues in each of these areas of concern. Last week, I dropped off just three of those articles, at the commission office here. I have them today if you'd like me to submit them for the record. From studies in the Library of Congress, Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, the Lincoln Institute of National Land Policy, and many others, they document that these data centers put severe, quote unquote, drain on local and regional resources such as air pollution. Fossil fuels consumption generates nitrogen oxide, methane volatile organic compounds, fine particulate matter which will greatly increase the high levels of particulate matter that we already have in the valley. This leads to increased severity and increased incidence of asthma, heart conditions, and cancer risks according to these studies. If they are not going to be using fossil fuels to generate electricity, then they're utilizing one or a combination of two of these following resources, a Valley Valley Electric power grid and that increased power demands from Valley Electric will require them to purchase more power from other sources and create infrastructure that will handle the extra load demands. These studies show that those increased costs are passed on to residential consumers. I don't have the time to go into the solar generating fields and their negative impact on the environment and their tremendous water consumption demands. I don't have time to go into the light pollution issues either. Water depletion. Our current aquifer is being depleted at approximately two feet per year. A typical small center of 100 megawatts consumes approximately 500,000 gallons of water a day. That's equivalent to approximately 300 households. A mid sized center consumes about 5,000,000 gallons a day, equivalent to the whole town of Pahrump. Our valley aquifer cannot tolerate this kind of demand. The noise pollution issue. There are a number of studies and video news reports that document the audible and subsonic pollution generated by these facilities. They produce loud hums, buzzing, and at times screeching, piercing sounds, and a pressure pulsing that is transmitted through the air and in the ground that can be felt miles away. People describe it as feeling it deep in their bones. These subsonic pulses produce physical symptoms similar to Havana syndrome. These data centers pose significant health risks that cannot be ignored. These studies go on to say that they cause symptoms
Voice Bhear it at 1:01:31
such as hearing loss, stress Thank you, sir. Insomnia. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 1:01:37
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 1:01:43
Hi. This is Tim Bohannon, l h a n n o n.
Voice Ghear it at 1:01:47
I wanted to talk to us a little bit about,
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the master plan. NRS two seventy eight dot zero two eight four gives us that any action of the local government related to development, zoning, and subdivisions of land or capital improvements must conform to master plan of the local government, period. In adopting any ordinance or regulation related to development, zoning and subdivision of land or capital improvements, the local government shall make a specific finding that the ordinance conforms to the master plan. Here's the point. The master plan is a very important tool. That plan does not include anything about data centers. It does surprisingly have content about solar. But it also enables the public and us to really discuss about what's going on with the development as a whole, the land use, transportation, and water conservation. The water conservation component did come up in the regional planning, and it does often. And, you know, one of the things that we know that the public should be allowed to speak, especially in general comment and also all the way through when they're permitted to. So making sure that we listen to the people is important thing. Where we're at with the with the master plan ordinances, part of the big picture of getting the data centers right, if it's a, if it's going to be there, which I'm not necessarily proponent of. B, if it's not gonna be there, that we have things that say, hey. Here's why it's not. That it's all the way through, not just from a surface, but also throughout the documentation in ordinances and master plans and the like. You know, this is a big topic. Solar was a big big topic as well. This is probably bigger right now. But these are the kind of things that need attention throughout the organizations within the government, the components, including water district and things of that nature. BOCC, that's up to you. People, it's up to us to say, hey, here's what our feelings are, here's what we believe. But then it's also up to us to listen to what the facts are. We may have the facts. We may have part of the facts. You know, if there's an internal cooling system and that is factual, that's something we need to take into account. But if we refuse it, meaning having no data centers, that we have a fully informed
Voice Bhear it at 1:04:33
intelligent decision that we can make. Thank you. Thanks, Tim. Come on down, mister Deborah.
Voice Xhear it at 1:04:44
Deborah Thomas, t h o m a s. You know that, though. I want to remind each of the commissioners that they work for their constituents. That means you treat us, your constituents, with respect and vote the way the majority of us tells you to vote. You can also call us and share your ideas why you're not gonna vote the way we want you to vote. Maybe we have it wrong. It is very much the way an employee does things the way his very much the way an employee does things the way his or her boss tells them. If you don't do that, you are not likely to get reelected. Some of you are better employees than the others, and I'm not going to name names. On each and every issue, you need to decide whether to vote the way you would like to vote or the way your boss would tells you to vote. Just like put stuff away when you take it out to do something with it, you have to put it away just right. My dad taught me that. He was an electrical contractor. If you don't treat your constituents with the respect we deserve, we are not likely to elect you again at any time. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 1:06:19
Good morning, honorable Mai County Board of Commissioners. My name is Emma Belador, v e l a v o r. Can you hear me?
Voice Ehear it at 1:06:32
Hi. I'm Julie Walvis twenty twenty six. While imparting my knowledge to the Amargosa Valley Town Board town hall audience, my First Amendment rights were violated along with several interim officers by our Amargosa Town chairman, Carolyn Allen, and member and clerk, Mike Cottageck. Commissioner DeBoer and commissioner Koenig were present and witnessed it. Commissioner DeBoer, what was the disciplinary action protocol for such poor behaviors? The moment chairman Allen heard the title of the article, which is Department of Justice documents confirm Center for Biological Diversity received millions in taxpayer funds from ESA related lawsuits. It was very odd that she did not approve of it. She interrupted me and had the deputy escort me away from the podium while I was speaking. Then Mike Cotton Jones, the clerk, the member, slammed his fist and rebuttled what I had said. This is totally, totally inappropriate, uncalled for. Our town should not be associated with the Amargosa Conservancy who claimed to be completely against solar, but yet took a $120,000 donation from Gemini Solar Company. This is beyond hypocritical. They say they're totally against all of your solar, and therefore, all these little animals and all these plants, but yet they're taking money from solar. The Amazon of the Conservancy vice president is Patrick Donnelly and is also the director of the Center for Biological Diversity. Again, the Department of Justice documents confirmed Center for Biological Diversity received millions of dollars. How much? $2,000,286,686.91. Most of it going to attorney attorney fees, and all of that is our taxpayer money. And they obviously got all of the lands, all the BLM lands that they were demanding to get because, supposedly, they were out to save some some creature and believe I believe in all life. Okay? Also, I believe that our board has been severely compromised. There are members on our board who have stated that our town board
Voice Bhear it at 1:09:20
chairman Thank you. Earl West. Thank you for that. Thank you, ma'am. Come on down, ma'am, please.
Voice Yhear it at 1:09:29
Good morning. My name is Tamilyn Taylor, t a y l o r. And I've been a resident of Pahrump for past ten years or so. And I work at Nye Communities Coalition, and I'm here today just to share a little bit about what I do there, and that's related to food security. As you well know, Nye County has one of the highest food insecurity rates in the state of Nevada. According to a study completed in 2024 by Feeding America, Nye County insecurity rates lie at 17.3%, or this is, also could be one in six residents have an uncertainty as to when their next meal will come. And, unfortunately, children, it's even higher. One in five children live in food insecure homes. So address to address some of these issues, Nye Communities Coalition has a monthly food security meeting where we meet with, area food pantry managers and other stakeholders. And in there, we, brainstorm and strategize on how we can increase, food, access to many of our very vulnerable residents in the community. And I would also like to, mention that we have some good news here is over the past year, through donations and grant funds, Nye Communities Coalition has been able to donate or, distribute, see, 64,719 pounds of food in, pantries in Nye, Esmeralda, and Lincoln Counties. So we couldn't have done that without a lot of our, wonderful partners. And one of the, area I wanna point out is that, the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, they have done substantial food donations for this community. And then also there's a local farm, Green Life Produce, who donates produce on a weekly basis to the food pantry, so we're grateful for them. I don't know if everybody knows that most of our food pantries here in Pahrump, there's nine of them, that the food pantry managers work for free. They're volunteers, and there's so many other residents too that help them out with this. But I'm I'm really impressed about what they do here, their commitment and their dedication to the community. I wanted to point out that one way they go above and beyond is that several of these food pantries are also making home deliveries to folks that do not have transportation or or any way to get to the food pantry. And everybody involved is doing it for free. Nobody's
Voice Bhear it at 1:12:28
getting money for gas or anything like that. Thank thank you for that update. I appreciate it, and I'm sorry. Alright. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Come on down, Frank.
Voice Zhear it at 1:12:45
Frank Carbone, c a r b o n e. A little bit of a change here. I'm gonna talk about Purple Heart Day. Usually, colonel Waters comes up here and talks about Purple Heart Day, But he kinda told me it's time for me to start standing up here and talk about it. So Purple Heart Day, August 7, hope to see all you, not only you, the folks that are elected, but anybody in the town, anybody that's welcome or camera friendly.
Voice A2hear it at 1:13:16
So if you wanna come record and see what's going on, it's a great, great great time to look at our citizens that actually have received the award of Purple Heart. We also talk about some of the folks that have not are not around any longer to talk about Purple Hearts. We're also gonna have two Purple Heart recipients actually as speakers. So I think you're gonna under you're gonna get some good feedback from how they feel about how they got this award. So, again, August 7, 06:00 to Copa Cemetery. Hope to see you all there. Thank you, Frank.
Voice B2hear it at 1:13:54
Come on down, Diane.
Voice C2hear it at 1:14:03
Diane Southworth, s o u t h w o r t h. I'll start out by saying I'm just as upset about the data centers as everybody else, and I don't want them. But that's not why I'm down here. I want to speak again about the safety or Safe America Act that is trying to get through Congress, how it will affect this county. To start off with, that act is unconstitutional. The founders wanted states to handle the elections. They did not want a centralized federal government handling those things because they did not want it to be able to be disrupted very easily and that's why they did that. Number two, as far as the county is concerned was the some of the regulations that they wanna put in if someone makes a mistake and and register somebody who is not eligible to void vote. They're saying they can give up to a ten year sentence in jail for that, You know? And as far as that goes, there's so little fraud when it comes to noncitizens trying to vote. The Heritage Foundation did a report from 1999 to 2024 where they checked all the states, all the problems. You know how how many they came up with? 77, all of whom were prosecuted. So that isn't an issue. It's one that they want to tell you is an issue, but it's not available. Two, I'm sick and tired of women having to give out more information to do things than than men. And I think it's ridiculous. There's an easy solution. I got my social security card when I was 17. They've seen me through my marriages and divorces, etcetera. I don't wanna spend a $165 for a passport that I'll never use. And the the Social Security department has all that information. It could be easily verified. I have my birth certificate. I don't care. I'll sign. I'll give them a copy of my birth certificate, my my Social Security card, and my driver's license. But that's all. I'm sorry. My family's been here since the seventeen hundreds. I don't think I should have to prove anything else. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice D2hear it at 1:16:39
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice E2hear it at 1:16:45
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. I wanna start off with the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this country. You know, maybe it's time that, the powers that be in Nye County create a time capsule and create a source open in fifty years so we know what's been going on, and we can look back on all this progress. The other thing I wanna talk about that a lot of people can't relate to are the frequencies that are generated from any data center. Doesn't matter what size it is. The power that it has going further is the difference. Well, you know, when you put a cat in your lap and it purrs, that makes you very relaxed. Some people might even fall asleep, and everybody agrees with that. Even children are soothed by the purring of a cat. That megahertz sound that they generate is between 25 and a 150 hertz, and that could also promote healing. The megahertz with a data center is below 20 hertz, and that's where you have distress. You have diseases. You have illnesses. The science as it is right now won't relate to those megahertz sounds to failing health to people that live within a 50 mile radius of even one of these substations, for the power companies. Back in the nineties, you had a whole, street of doctors move when they had a substation put in their backyards. Maybe you can remember all that. I don't know how old some of you are. The other thing is the splash pad. I went online because there were some details given on the cost. I went online and priced everything, and there is absolutely no way that this cost $300,000. That is completely ludicrous. Somebody should have had more oversight to what was going on with this and had a better plan of what they were going to produce. Side by side with a prison shower, it looks identical. It looks completely identical. I don't know about the safety, and there's a lot of people that know more than me. And another thing, the power company came by or sent some people to upgrade my meter. And I'd heard for the last year people talking about a Thanks, Amy.
Voice B2hear it at 1:19:50
Come on down and prompt, please.
Voice F2hear it at 1:19:55
Thank you. My name is Ann Underdahl, u n d e r d a h l. And I have no idea what a prison shower looks like. Me neither. But I am here with a public service announcement. The Nye County Democrats have arranged for a speed dating event happening on August 4, 6PM at the senior center. People in Pahrump, this is open to the public, will have a chance to come meet, chat, maybe fall in love with a candidate, maybe not. All of the candidates for up for election for District 4 and District 5 commissioner will be there. Tables will rotate. You get a chance to sweet talk all of them. Tell them what you want, what you don't want, and, they can't get away from you. But, you'll be moving on, understanding what they're really for, as opposed to what other people tell you they're saying. So it's open to the public. I would recommend if you live in District 4 or District 5, you come by, have a good time. We'll probably have cookies and coffee as well. That's the, senior center here in Pahrump, 06:00 on August 4.
Voice B2hear it at 1:21:14
Thank you. Thank you, Anne. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Okay. Come on down, Daryl.
Voice G2hear it at 1:21:25
Daryl Lackey, l a c k e y. I was handed this visual aid, and it's so cool. I'm I'm sure you'll be seeing it one way. But, you know, it's pretty I it's a it's a pair of polar bar polar bear in a snowstorm, I think. Right? Or it's on. They see that I'm on now since I went vegan. I'm on. I'm on. I love it. You'll be seeing it a different way, I'm sure. But I wanna I I was my friend was telling me about it because he reads the paper, and he says, oh, you know, $700,000 for for the for the well at the at the fairgrounds. I'm like, wow. Is that gonna have an elevator to the bottom? What's that gonna have? I have $700,000 well. What does that have that other wells don't have? It's gotta have oh, ouch. Hands. Well, I say hands in it, I guess. I don't know if it's going through the Mormon church, like, you know, in the old days with Tim. I don't know. I don't know. I I wish that people behind me would go ahead and dig in. Sometimes I say stuff and it gets other people riled too. You know? Like, about the, about the about the the gut, either you got a six pack or you got parasites. Guess which one I got? We were taught how to do everything wrong, and you follow the new world order direction no matter what. People are almost on. People are waking up. People are waking up, and they see that you ain't loyal to them. You know I got a program to end homelessness and poverty for the whole country, and I wanna start it here as an example in this place of of badness or whatever you wanna call it. Whatever you wanna call it. It's just lies and corruption. You know? It's I'm usually on. But here we are, and we're at the decision at the point of bringing in these electronic centers. You know, y'all got 2.5 gigahertz routers in your houses. You know how dangerous 2.5 gigahertz is? And you leave them on all the time. You got five g phones in your pockets. So do I. We're we're stuck to it. That's all they provide is danger and sickness. They don't want us getting our Social Security. You know, I shut off. They they were gonna take they took $202.90 out for their serpent medication, the serpents, the AMA, the two serpents. I cut I I went down. I no. They gave me that money back. I'm not having them take money out. I'm not getting to ever use the hospitals and the medical system here. They have serpents that represent them. The serpents represent the ever populating, parasites that you have from being on the wrong diet. Humans are herbivores. There's no such thing as omnivore. It's a word that was made up. And you are making decisions over other people's lives, and you're filled with parasites and parasite excrement. Thank you. So how's that gonna make you feel good? Thanks, Daryl. Thanks, Darryl. Always a pleasure and a joy. Sam,
Voice B2hear it at 1:24:35
you got anybody for us? No, chair. Come on up.
Voice H2hear it at 1:24:40
How do you follow that? You don't. I'm not lying. I'm sorry. He's giving me snobber. We're not we're not sure what he's on. Okay. My name is Jean Alexander Booth, a l e x a n d e r hyphen b o o t h. Good morning. I had no intentions of speaking today, but I couldn't after that wonderful prayer we had this morning. The prayer that asked God to protect our precious Pahrump. I'm gonna extend it to our precious Nye County as well. Data centers and medical waste
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is the is a threat
Voice H2hear it at 1:25:21
to our precious town. Ash metal is at risk. Our homes are at risk. The people are at risk. And I asked the commission to fight with the people of our precious town to ban data centers and to take whatever steps necessary to stop medical waste. As I stated before at the hearing, I'm a Marine Corps veteran. My MOS was power plants. I worked on fighter jets, engines, and I tested them in test cells. There was tons and tons of manuals on protocols on how to keep people safe, how to make these machines work, but every single one of them failed. And that was my job was to help fix them. But I knew what to do when they did fail. I don't think the medic waste people have a clue what they're getting into. They've never built this thing before. They are not even building as somebody else's. And even the people who designed it said it is highly untested, yet everything is put at risk. So I'm asking our commissioners to stand with the people of our precious town, our precious county, and fight with us to ban these threats and to protect us. If you don't, god help us.
Voice B2hear it at 1:26:52
Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Come on down in Perum, please.
Voice J2hear it at 1:27:03
Peggy Miller, p e g g y m I l l e r. I am a Nye County resident. I live in Crystal. They have already come out, your data centers. We've watched them dig a hole to see how much water Crystal has. There are rumors around Crystal that they wanna buy the whole Bloomin' Town and close us out. I've been there three years. We moved out of Las Vegas after forty years. Couldn't stand the nonsense. Love the quiet. My dogs are happy. My family's happy. We look outside and see gorgeous sunsets. We don't need our water gone, and that's what they're gonna do. I've got all kinds of things. I was a librarian, so I did a whole lot of research on this stuff. In 2023, which is a long time ago, John Clank or Clanky did some NCWD meeting where they talked about water levels in Southern Nye County. And I looked at their website also, and they haven't done any updates since that 2023, at least anything published. Maybe they're still looking at it. But according to them, water levels are falling. And every time and I have another one that I have that talks about let me get to it. Oh, it's on the bottom. This one is from 2015. It's Pahrump Valley Times. The author of it is Lillian Brown, and the heading says test site contaminate contamination creeping toward area drinking groundwater. Now it says in here that it isn't heading really all that much toward Pahrump, but it also says that if it continues to fall, it will. And that was 2015. So who knows if anybody's still keeping up with that? All I can say is please, please, please, please don't let these data centers go in here. We are the lowest rainfall in The United States. America has the lowest rainfall in the the state of Nevada. We get less than across the state, less than 10 inches a year. And that includes all of your rain that happens in the North and all of your snow and everything. So we're we don't need it. This is not a place to come in to get millions and millions and millions of gallons of water. This is not it. Thank you.
Voice B2hear it at 1:30:04
Thank you. Perfect timing. Don't we only get, like, four inches right? Come on up, Linda.
Voice I2hear it at 1:30:12
Linda Clark, CLARK. First of all, I want to welcome everybody here. It's so wonderful to see all of you here. Please keep coming. It's so important. Second thing, I hear a lot of stuff here. Hard to know what to believe anymore. But one thing I wanna ask real quick, like, if Bruce and Ian are gonna get together to talk about all this stuff, why aren't the other three of you? Is it not interesting to you? Do we not matter? I don't understand. Oh my god.
Voice K2hear it at 1:30:45
Yes, Deborah. You too. We are going to be there. Okay. It's a forum.
Voice I2hear it at 1:30:50
Okay. That's not what we heard. I don't know. Only joking. Go ahead. I rattled the cage. Me, chair. Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. My question Okay. After we went through all of that is we've been listening to this stuff for several years now, and you know that I've been coming. A lot of other wonderful people here, and we really do care. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that our boards care. We sat in a board last week for their RPC, and what a joke. We ended up walking out. It was disgusting. I don't know why the community is invited to come to these things when you guys don't even listen to us. Oh, yeah. You listen, but I think you have your ear plugs in. So we get all this stuff back from you, but we don't get any positive answers that you even heard what we said. And I know there are a lot of people here that go to these meetings and they come away looking at why did we come. The other thing that's interesting is all our complaint about that is you have all the important things at the end of the meeting. A lot of people wanna talk, but they have to go home. And I've said this before, the mom with the child, the someone has to go pick someone from school. They can't stay till five or six or 07:00 at night hoping that you guys are gonna cover something that they wanted to hear at ten because maybe it was on the agenda, but you kept postponing it. Isn't that what happened? Yeah. Okay. Why does that happen? Why can't we listen to something that's put on the board on the meeting that we wanna listen to? At the time you say it's possibly gonna be on there, and that I don't have to make other arrangements and stay till ten or 11:00 at night to listen to something that probably isn't going to pass and you don't listen to us anyway. So just to keep little things to stir in your eardrums, take your ear plugs out and listen to us, please.
Voice B2hear it at 1:32:54
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No chair. Come on up, Mary Anne.
Voice L2hear it at 1:33:03
Mary Anne Hollis, h o l l I s, the splash pad. I was at the groundbreaking, and the moms and their babes were standing in the blistering sun, and all the dignitaries were under a tent. And I thought, wow. I hope there'll be some sort of shade structure for the moms and their kids. So I ended up going under a tree because it was too much for me. And I was sort of talking out loud to myself, and I said, where's the shade? Where's the shade? And the a gentleman who was standing next to me said, well, if they get hot, they can just go in the water and get cooled off. And I said to myself, thank god he's not in charge of this. Lo and behold, he is. And I said, what's gonna keep the kids from excited kids running around from running in the street and or a car coming down the street, maybe jumping the curb, losing their
Voice L2hear it at 1:34:19
of line of sight and jumping the curb and hitting a few kids. Well, we're gonna put up ballads. I said, well, a kid will still run through a ballad. Well, then we'll put up a fence behind the ballads. I'm like, oh my god. Ka ching, ka ching. What I see now is there are ballots, but they extend way further down and there's no protective gate that I could see. The moms did raise $5,000 and repeatedly, I asked mister Martinez, what's happening with that? And at a meeting that he had with myself and a few other citizens, he said, there's just not money to put in one that's worthwhile. Well, is nothing worthwhile? I don't know. And I said to myself, why would you wait to put a to sink a shade structure when you've already poured the cement floor? And a mom who wants to bring their child to the bathroom, there's no you have to come out, go all the way down, and then take a left, and then go into the bathroom. Your line of sight, should you have more than one child, is gone. There's no line of sight. And I do know what a prison shower looks like. And I think it's this is an insult to a prison shower, to tell you the truth. I asked for the scope of work that would be followed because the scope of work that was in the bid opportunity might have changed. And I was told it's the same scope of work,
Voice B2hear it at 1:36:07
and it has not been Mary Anne, you're done. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Come on up, Dwight. Good
Voice M2hear it at 1:36:20
morning, commissioners. Dwight Lilly, l I l l y. Well, every now and then in your life, you see an item come up that unifies almost a 100% of a population. You can have young, old, educated, uneducated, people on the left, people on the right, people that are rich, people that are poor. But every now and then there's something that comes up that unifies. Well, we've had several of them. We've had meta waste. We've had 5,160 new homes in a water starved area. Now we got data centers, and we're gonna have a meeting coming up to discuss data centers. How about a poll? Just raise your hands if you got against data center. Wow. There's your poll right there. There's your poll right there. I've never seen an issue come up in all the time I've come to meeting that has unified people, and Ian Bain is right about having an item to just say no. How would you like to buy a house in Mountain Falls or a new development? And as you come out the gate and enter Highway 160, in front of you is this monstrous building, but that's not even the data center. That's the administration center of this massive data center in a town that prides itself of being the gateway to Death Valley and a world of out of town. I I've been negative about this, you commissioners, because I thought, you know what? I figured it's probably gonna be a three to two vote in favor of data centers here. But if I've ever seen a unifying situation that has brought all the people of prompt together, it's this one. So let's see how this goes. But if I was you, I would reach way down for my my my good angels when you think about this. That what is best for prompt? Is it best to change the entire nature of prompt over data centers, or is it best to try to get back to where we are, rural Nevada town? Thank you. Thanks. Come on down in prompt, please.
Voice N2hear it at 1:38:45
Greg Dankowski, d a n k o w s k I. In 1984, I moved to Nye County at Mercury, Nevada. I established a PO box and a bank account in Mercury and moved into an old army barracks left over from the early days of the Camp Desert Rock. A year later in 1985, I moved to Pahrump and got another PO box because US mail service did not exist to my location because I had no address, just a legal description. I lived in an old 12 foot travel trailer with no utilities until I could save enough money for utilities. As my as I lived my life in Pahrump, I began to notice that the quality of my life and others was diminishing. My first observation was that the government was becoming tyrannical, specifically the sheriff's judicial and planning departments. My second observation was that the BOCC was not listening to the people. My third observation was the roads were becoming worse. In many cases, the bar ditch is smoother than the asphalt. My fourth observation is that the mantra of Knight County is retaliation. And my last observation is that common sense is not common. I am disgusted that the civility and peace are equated with the toleration of evil. The toleration of evil does not define good. There are 40 churches here and not one leader comes forth and speaks up for morality. The only exception was when Victor from the patch of heaven spoke about his church, church's water being confiscated years ago. And specific to planning and code compliance, there needs to be cognitive testing by a neurologist and visual testing by an ophthalmologist before employment. We live in the most contaminated county in The US, maybe even the world. There have been 828 underground nuclear bombs detonated in Nye County. There have been a 100 above ground nuclear bombs detonated in Nye County. We have US Ecology burying waste near Beatty. We have the Nevada test site burying waste in Area 5 in Nye County. And most of all, here we have active infiltration basins draining treated non potable water into our sole source aquifer, which, by the way, is illegal in our neighboring state to the east called Utah. Thank you, Mormons. You got it right. Now the leadership of Nye County wants to bring more waste to Nye County. Haven't we done enough to contaminate Nye County? Nye County must be HQ for toxicity. Yes. We have mental midgets and misfits and morons that live here, but not everyone fits that definition. Some are listening, watching, and waking up. Here in the land of Lucifer, there is a revival going on.
Voice B2hear it at 1:41:51
Lastly, development is not our friend. Thank you, sir. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Come on up. Annette.
Voice O2hear it at 1:42:06
Annette Fuentes, f u e n t e s. I have some little pamphlets here that I put together for you guys on this subject. Commissioners, I would like to go on record and have this information entered in the minutes. I would like to bring to your attention a problem in Ash Meadows that will affect private in holders and surrounding small towns such as Amargosa and Crystal. Are you aware of two reservoirs in Ash Meadows being drained? Enclosed are the before and after pictures of Peterson Reservoir and Crystal. Those reservoirs have been there since the refuge since before the refuge was established, and now fish and wildlife has drained them. Tell me what fire suppression are they going to use if this refuge catches on fire? I had a church camp in the refuge, and I have to supply fire suppression at my camp because I'm open to the public. One of the issues no one is addressing is with these solar farms is is is fire issues. People are concentrating on water and noise. What about fires? This will bring fires, believe it or not. Amargosa has a small volunteer fire department who do their very absolute best with what they have to deal with fighting fires. But having these solar firms out here will bring a bigger risk to the fires. Do you all remember the Palisades fires in California? All the reservoirs were drained, and there was nowhere to get water. I haven't closed a copy of an agreement about fire support provided by Ash Meadows between Department of Interior, Fish and Wildlife, and the town of Amargosa Valley, which was done in June 1988. I've sent emails to Department of Interior, EPA Department of Agriculture to have this matter Fish and wildlife are responsible for protecting Ash Meadows. I wanna know how they intend on protecting the refuge and the stakeholders inside, which I am one of them. The ref the reservoirs are drained. Where do they expect to get the water? What will happen to all the endangered plants and animals found nowhere else in the world? By the way, show me the person who walked the whole world and knows this. This is why I will never agree to handing over more of the public lands to Fish and Wildlife and BLM. They are not good stewards of our land. Ash Meadows is a disaster. No one is watching over Fish and Wildlife. They have destroyed established wetlands, illegally diverted water, and draining the West Reservoirs. BLM has sold off leased land to solar and data. Unfortunately, the good people of Amargosa are believing that the National Conservation Area will save their water. I definitely understand their concerns, but they don't understand there's a bigger problem. All the water right holders, the big ones have sold off or leased their water rights to solar and a private data center coming in. They have the legal right to do that, unfortunately, and we just like it or not. Thanks, Annette. Come
Voice B2hear it at 1:45:10
on down to Perum, please.
Voice M2hear it at 1:45:13
Right now? Oh, shit. Hold on. Excuse me, chair. Yes. Go ahead. And excuse me, folks.
Voice P2hear it at 1:45:19
All the water talk, very important.
Voice B2hear it at 1:45:22
I really have to take a comfort break. Comfort break. And this is why this is why things drag on and take long because we spend two hours on Thank you. Which we want everybody to speak, but my god, takes a long time. Comfort break, ten minutes.
Voice Q2hear it at 1:45:36
You wanna let Nancy go ahead and speak and then My name is Nancy Yanda, y a n d a. And I'm just saying, we don't want this here. And whoever lives in that area, if Deborah Stick lives near the data center and that comes in, is she planning up and getting paid enough money from those Absolutely. Lawyers for her to just high hell out of here? She don't wanna live in this town anymore because it'll become a ghost town if those data centers get in here.
Voice B2hear it at 1:46:12
Jeez. Brian, do we have to sit here and listen to being accused of committing crimes? Brian? Come on down. No. I'm gonna drag this on as long as I want. Go, Bruce.
Voice P2hear it at 1:46:27
Please go. No. No. I listen to everybody that comes in, and and I write notes. So go ahead go ahead. My my, my clothing attire may change color. Don't try to make it quick.
Voice R2hear it at 1:46:40
Try to make it quick. It's
Voice E2hear it at 1:46:41
okay. Good morning, Nye County. Oh my god.
Voice R2hear it at 1:46:48
So I bet you wish you were still in Africa. Anyway, I went to a very interesting meeting on Saturday. Facts, getting more facts. I've been studying the data centers for months now. And and there was a gentleman there. He was a a navy man. Was in the navy for thirty years, and he worked in a nuclear program. Thirty years. He's worked with the closed loop systems. And he says, don't fall for it. He says, this closed loop system is it's it's a lie. He says, the only thing that the the closed loop treats is the GPU and CPUs only. And these facilities, this hyperscale data center, they wanna put the the Mance hyperscale. The humidity has to be maintained at 30% for static electricity not to occur. And if it does, kaboom. Also, the temperature inside these places need to be 67, 68 degrees max, and and it needs constant clean water. These closed loop systems, the water has to be drained, has to be new water put in, and the water that they drain out of there will have forever chemicals. Once it goes into our water supply, we're dead. We're done. Can't get it out. So and he says the fact that that that anybody want to put a data center in in the desert is retarded. So just wanna make that point. The other thing is I stood here back in May and brought up the the topic of data center. And at that time, I don't know if anybody ever had. And I did make a point that a lot of municipalities were officials were assigning NDAs to not speak about this subject to the citizens. And I asked if any of you had been approached. You know? And it would be nice if you all could go on record if you were approached by Ativan or Greenleak or any of these people, corporations, not to, you know, say anything to the public. That would be nice. I think to put rumors to rest, we would all like to hear that. And let me see. Oh, yeah. And at that time, I think mister Strickland said she didn't hadn't even heard anything about a data center at that point yet. So I I help me out here. I'm having a hard time. How did we get from not knowing about data centers to too much later when we got plans for possibly two of them? When it's your time to speak, you can respond to that. And it's just you know, I'm confused. So, anyway, other than that, welcome back from Africa. I hope you hope you had a good time. So have a good meeting, everybody.
Voice B2hear it at 1:49:33
Freaking. Oh, Jesus. What? We're starting her target time. Let's close public meeting. No. Her time is running.
Voice K2hear it at 1:49:44
Oh my gosh.
Voice S2hear it at 1:49:45
Oh, I see. She's getting She's got props. Okay. Good.
Voice K2hear it at 1:49:51
We have a name. This other lady. No.
Voice B2hear it at 1:49:54
You're up. You're on time right now. You're using up your time. Running out of time. Can you spell your last name for us or write it down somewhere or something?
Voice K2hear it at 1:50:05
I'm gonna I'm gonna make it really easy for you guys. Tony, t o n I h o v e r m a n. Come on, people. No. No. Come on, Sean. No. Stand up for pahrump. I don't want my town ruined. I don't care about any of your personal things that you have going on, your own personal agendas. I don't want I don't want it in my town. I moved here six years ago for a better life. I got out of that cesspool called California and I moved here. I moved here. I bought a piece of land. I bought a trailer. Had a well drilled, Deborah. And I don't want my town ruined. You guys will be gone. All of you will be gone. And I'll be here. A lot of us will be here, and we're gonna reap the consequences of your decisions. And it's not fair to us. You guys will all be gone. You all have moved on. There's over 500 properties in this town right now that are for sale. Jeez. Someone here knows something. I don't want this in my town. These people don't want this in the in our town. And I don't think my fate and my future and my health should be in the hands of the five of you. And there's some there was a commissioner that did show up at the rally on Saturday and I thank him. There are some people in this town that are in government that are for the fight for no data centers. There are some people on this panel right now that don't give a damn, that won't be around much longer, that have their own agendas of the legacy they're gonna leave on us, poor people out here. They really don't give a damn about us. Well, I just wanna say that I'm gonna use the last breath of air I have in my body to fight this because this is not what I signed up for six years ago. This is not what I agreed to buy into, and this is not the cancer I'm gonna end up with later down the road because you guys all have, you know, on your own agendas to get whatever you're gonna get from these companies that are gonna back and finance these shell companies and these investors that wanna put the status center out here. This is Thank you. Your land. This is my land and you're not
Voice B2hear it at 1:52:44
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice D2hear it at 1:52:46
Guest chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice T2hear it at 1:52:52
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, GARCIA. Can you hear me? My volume okay? Perfectly good, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just wanted to, you know, thank everybody in the audience that showed up today. Your voice matters. I wanna thank everybody that spoke. Wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful. And thank you for everybody for holding up those signs. Everything came across loud and clear. Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a, for the record. And once again, chair, I'd like to address some of your
Voice B2hear it at 1:53:30
etiquette issues when it comes to serving the people. If you don't like it, file a complaint. Move on with your time, please.
Voice T2hear it at 1:53:37
I'm sorry. Are you engaging me? Is that a open meeting violation with you? Whatever whatever you like, sir, just keep going. You're wasting your time. I did not yield my time. Are you addressing a challenge, or are you just communicating with me unconstitutionally? Are you interrupting my time? Once again, I come to you for natural rights to all these, the speaker that had their First Amendment right violated. You see how the sheriff stood up? You see how the DA stood up for you? See how these commissioners wanna ask questions about protecting God's trust? God's trust. I remind you about Luke seventeen two, better a millstone when it comes to our children. Every county, every state, they are participating in fraud, extortion, and official oppression. They will all pay the price. Executive order one three eight one eight in 2017 said it clearly by Trump. This is treasonous wagers. It qualifies as a state of war when you put your rules, policies, and discretionary opinions above an inalienable right. Article one, section one of Nevada constitution. Have you all read the contract? Do you really think you can supersede that? In the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. Amen. Okay? Let's bring the spiritual torch up. Who's holding the light? Why don't you start, chair, with Ezekiel thirty seven thirty eight? You might be able to find your research when it comes to laying down with sins of the flesh. Yeah. Don't you dare preach to me. Who's the servant? Who's the master? I I represent the king of kings, the lord of lords. What are you standing for? I stand for the children. Let me ask you something, DA and sheriff. If captain Berkowitz was on the Brady list and also was unbonded, how does his arrest of me in the violation of my first and fourteenth amendment at the school board is lawful? Y'all conspired Subsection two forty one and two forty two. May y'all
Voice B2hear it at 1:55:51
Go ahead, sir. We're extending your time because I interrupted you.
Voice T2hear it at 1:55:55
Oh, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate your courtesy reach around. Mister Jabbour, v o seven BOCC 7.52, written after Chevron, the administrative
Voice B2hear it at 1:56:06
rule of law that hijacked common law, that hijacked Now you're done. Thank you. Law is up. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone? Actually, let's do Tonopah. That'll be fun. Go ahead, Tonopah. I need you. This Thank you. Trying to Yep. Sorry. Go ahead. Sorry.
Voice S2hear it at 1:56:23
No. It's okay. Good morning. I I'm Misha Allen, a l l e n. I'm with UNR Extension. I'm an Extension educator up here in Northern Nye County. And and my job is to develop educational programs based off of the needs of our Nye County communities and what they identify. And so my work is very much community driven. And our Nye County public has been very clear in their opposition to large scale land use projects like solar and data centers. And I've learned to categorize their opposition in two ways, one which is due to a lack of land stewardship, and I include natural resources and environmental issues in that. And then two, also due to lack of community host or host community benefits. And so in response, I developed two educational programs to specifically address these. So I provide education on, one, alternatives to conventional solar. And these are things like agrivoltaics, which is farming and ranching under solar and ecovoltaics, which is conservation and ecosystem benefits under solar, and both of which, by the way, they're ideally sited in semiarid and arid regions like ours because of their water savings characteristics And then two, community benefit agreements, which are incredibly important, I think, to counties like ours, where 97% of our county is public lands that are not captured within the traditional tax generating mechanisms, mechanisms that are necessary to fund local government operations and services. And without these revenue sources, industry development can unintentionally become a burden rather than a benefit to host communities. And so my current work includes supporting Nye County Solar Consortium in partnership with the Nye County Natural Resources Director, Megan Labady, where we have an interdisciplinary group of local community leaders and NGOs working to identify a pathway for industry development that aligns with our community values and needs, and they are really clear in wanting industry to develop community benefit agreements with host communities prior to county permitting. And since I'm funded by a mixture of county, state and federal funding, you might be hearing about some of my statewide work, particularly with the Nevada Association of Counties where energy, data centers and community benefit agreements are issues that they're working on. And I've provided education and technical assistance to NACO and multiple counties on how to address data center impacts on natural resources, water, energy, emergency management and jurisdictional capacity. And I'm really proud to have cultivated a network of in state and out of state experts that have offered to support and inform our work here in Nye County. So we actually have people willing to rally around us and to help, which I hope is county commissioners and administrators is really great news because it means that we're not alone in this. You're not alone in this. And that you're welcome to leverage me and my network. You, Misha. Absolutely. Thank you for that. Good work, Misha. Thank you.
Voice B2hear it at 1:59:34
Come on down, Susie. Actually,
Voice S2hear it at 1:59:39
Ruth. We're gonna die here. This is two hours in. Yep.
Voice B2hear it at 1:59:43
Break time. Sorry. Sorry. Bruce is gonna pee himself. We don't go. Sorry.
Voice I2hear it at 1:59:48
Sorry. We got my Ten minutes.
Voice B2hear it at 2:06:09
Alright, Serena. We ready up north?
Voice L2hear it at 2:06:18
Thank you for that. I need it.
Voice B2hear it at 2:06:22
Well, I thought it would end. For a lot of reasons.
Voice B2hear it at 2:07:37
Okay. Thank you for your patience, Susie. Everybody was about to
Voice L2hear it at 2:07:42
have a have a problem. It'll be way easier to pay attention now. Right ahead.
Voice U2hear it at 2:08:01
again, good morning, commissioners. Susie Hertz, h e r t z. I attended the most recent RPC meeting, last week, I guess it was. And I just wanted to report to you what I observed and what I experienced. It was a I I understand some other people have made comments already, but I wasn't here. The then chairperson of the RPC, mistakenly, seriously mistakenly, cut off the public from their comments. Like Cut a speaker off mid within their three minutes and then proceeded to just short of shouting at the rest of the audience and any other public speakers that the board was not going to hear any more of those such comments. And, it was a blatant attack against, speaking rights of the attendees, the public, and I think that you need to know that. I don't know. I think that the behavior of the board was really inappropriate, very unprofessional. And across the board, many of the people who sit and are now seated, recently on that board are not appropriate for what they're doing, for the the brevity and the depth and the gravity of what is being discussed in the RPC. Those people should be educated and informed, and many of them are not. And I am bringing this to you because you appoint them. And I would really request that you look and observe and evaluate who's been recently appointed to those boards because they're just not the right people. And our town is at stake. They're making bad decisions on what the zoning's, the ordinances are, and how to apply those to people who apply for the ability to do business or or have homes or whatever, and they're totally inappropriate. They took an enormous amount of time with one particular applicant, and they could not give that person a synced answer to how to fix the problems so that that person and that business could go forward. And it was shameful. And it was very solvable, but the people who were there were incompetent
Voice B2hear it at 2:11:05
to deal with it. Thanks, Susie. But what do you mind me asking what item caused the big
Voice U2hear it at 2:11:12
The what? It was a gentleman who had a tow truck business right in the center of town, and they just could not deal with what he was doing to make his application work. And there was a major or minor component missing, and nobody would answer him as to how to fix it. Jesus. And it was just shambles
Voice B2hear it at 2:11:38
and Thank you. Shame on them. Thank you. And and this yeah. Thank you. Come on up, please.
Voice V2hear it at 2:11:46
Hello. My name is Mary Rose Parkman. Last name is spelled p a r k m a n, and I'm here as a resident. I'm asking you, when it comes to data centers, are you asking yourselves at what cost? With the with the Mans Data Center facility, the developers are planning 15 to 16, data center blocks. Each of those are requiring 100 megawatts. That actually again, you should ask yourself at what cost because the electricity demand and the grid reliability will be greatly in impacted. The amount of energy that this facility is proposing to use is enough to power over 80,000 homes, nearly four times the homes that we have here in Pahrump. Water usage and aquifer sustainability, I'm glad you had your your break to bring up more water. But, ask yourself, at what cost is this data center? The fact that the plans are advancing before the release of the crucial Basin 162 groundwater study that highlights the lack of precaution that is being taken in this approval process. That report will not be available until 2027 is what I've been told. Yet this
Voice W2hear it at 2:13:17
data center will be voted on August 4. Again, a very big concern. The number three, air quality and noise pollution. They claim that this facility will be a a thousand plus feet away from any homes. That's less than three football fields, but the noise pollution that has been reported from other data centers has been staggering. And this distance is not going to cover up the decibels that are likely to be created by a facility of this size. I can go on. There's heat efficiency, environmental burden. The the risks of my biggest concern is risks of public cost and insufficient oversight. I think it's perhaps the most concerning prospect that the environmental and infrastructural costs of the Mance data center could be passed on to the public. Local tax rate payers will be facing facing increasing utility costs, diminished water security, degraded air quality, and all of this is without adequate transparency or individual feasibility studies. No amount of progress or tax dollars, which, by the way, will not be realized until up to five years after this is built. None of that is worth the literal lives that were people
Voice X2hear it at 2:14:44
of the people that live here. And lastly, I'd like to make very much for that. Thank you. I'm sorry to cut you. Come on in, miss Fender. Hi there. Mike Fender, f e n d e r. I sat here till the end and you wanted to extend this because I wanted to hear what everybody had to say, and I agree with a good portion of it. And I think you all understand why why I'm saying that because you actually believe a lot of things that I I do and report back to you because I do a lot of research. Bottom line is we're at a point, a juncture where the county is gonna have to set up a restriction and then literally put us set aside an area for this type of project, not necessarily here in the valley either. This is there we are now gonna have more land available up by Tonopah because the I'm gonna use this as a suggestion because that solar farm up there just went belly up. It's now owned by the Sons of Liberty. They're located out of Texas, and they spent $7,000,000 on it. So are they gonna tear it down? What are they gonna do? So now we've got us we've got an area up there they can actually put they're really since it's already been irradiated so to speak, you could put a data center there. Another reason is and every time there's also a new substation going in outside of Tonopah and these data centers need substations. How many are they gonna have around here? Probably four. Four transformers came in. So you don't need to have this data center at the entrance to our town which somebody stated recently this is the entrance to Death Valley. You just don't need that. You're putting a junkyard so to speak now at the at the entrance gateway right into our town. It just doesn't make any sense. Now the water issue is another thing. I mean nobody knows how much water we have. Now I listened to mister Meads recently and he has a he's got a good hold on what the water issue here is in this valley. He's lived here a long time. I have also been reading there was a report put out by a group of individuals and corporations this past February. They had a giant meeting on these data issues. Now a report was put out and I forwarded it to Dan Weeks here about four months ago. But anyway, you may have heard about it, you might not have, but I'm pretty sure you could have. Bottom line is these data centers do not belong here. They have more people now are pissed off about this than solar farms and solar farms are another big issue we're going to be dealing with because we get I don't even want to go there right now. But you understand what I'm getting at. But I would recommend that the county look at the idea of literally set aside an area not close by residents, not in in a large area or a semi area outside of town where you can actually build things if you have to. I'm not saying you have to. It's just Thank you, Mike. Improving solar farms. You, Okay. Thanks. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No chair. Come on down, Patricia. Good
Voice Y2hear it at 2:18:19
afternoon. Patricia Rubb, ROBB. You know why I'm here. And everyone did a good job behind me talking about the data center, so I will move on with the mission I'm on. And that is the utility challenged lots. I know that the planning department is working on an overlay ordinance, which is good. I'm looking forward to that actually being ready soon because these owners have not been able to use their land for almost five decades. They pay taxes on it. The tax bills just went out. And of course, they're paying just for a piece of paper right now. They're not paying to use their land. So I just kind of wanna reiterate some of the benefits. Although I've mentioned these before, I wanna go a little bit more further into some details. Besides them being able to actually use their land that they pay taxes on, they're also going to be less likely to walk away from paying those taxes. Land values will rise once they can start using them. It does stop squatters from using those lot lots as well as complaints against code violations out there. There's no infrastructure needed. These owners are taking everything on themselves. This is just a reminder of everything. It encourages conservation minded living. So I like what Misha and Tonopah had to say about UNR's extension. We need education on alternative utilities, not just solar. People are not familiar with how alternative utilities work. But when it's going to be your responsibility, you're gonna learn how to do it. But everybody should know that. And as far as permitting tiny homes, container homes, it does give people the opportunity to enter into the market and actually enjoy their land. Sustainable housing creates pride of ownership. It also creates real neighborhoods instead of rows of unused tax draining parcels. It reduces the homelessness risk. We all know that sewer, water, and power will never be extended to most of these VR zoned lots. So alternative utilities are a realistic solution. This does avoid potential lawsuits also over regulatory takings and property rights violations once the ordinance is accepted. It also aligns with state and national trends such as SB one fifty. Now legal dwellings with permitted off grid setups can be registered, mapped, and planned for emergency response as well. So I know you've heard all this before. I know you've got a lot on your plate you're dealing with, but this is probably one of the easiest fixes of all. So I thank you for your time. Thank you, Sam. Anybody else on the phone, please?
Voice X2hear it at 2:21:16
No, chair. Closing public comment. Manager number four, please.
4. Commissioner/Manager Comments (This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings. Lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law).
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Item four, CommissionerManager comments. This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings, lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law. Thank you for that. Commissioner Bain.
Voice Bhear it at 2:21:44
Thank you. I'll be very brief. I just wanted to touch on sort of frame the debate that's going to happen here with the obvious pulled up here in both in the community. And, you know, an interesting thing that you watch to explain how Donald Trump won this election, it's because of a disagreement and a protest over things that government has purported to be facts. We've accumulated all these facts and these in this information. This is safe. This isn't safe. This is right. This isn't right. You're wrong. They're right. And over years and years, it kind of came to this big rejection that happened, I believe, in 2024 and probably in 2016. I think it happened in 1972 with McGovern with some socialist ideas that are now embraced pretty openly. I think it happened in 1980 with the election of Ronald Reagan. Probably happened in history that I I didn't trace or watch. But the reality is that in the future, in the very near future, there's gonna be accumulation of what the administration's going to call facts. And these facts are going to be contrary to what a lot of people believe. This is not a debate over facts. Data centers are not a debate over facts. They're a debate over whether or not people believe what they're being told. And that's something that I think that Hillary Clinton didn't understand when she was running against Donald Trump. And and not to to frame it any other way, but just that this is what's going to happen. And I've quoted I don't know if I've done it up here, but there's a commissioner that was with the Obama administration in Cook County in Chicago, in Forrest Claypool. He used to say, when you're explaining, you're losing. And it's because when people don't believe and there's no trust in what they're being told, it doesn't matter what you say. And I've said it up here before. You had a a doctor with 50 and I'm 52 years old. And we had a doctor with fifty two years experience, Fauci, and he had a specific set belief on what was dangerous and how to take care of that danger and that harm. And within one year, that changed. Now was he a bad doctor for fifty two years and the government was right, or was the government wrong and that's why he changed his position so that he could accommodate the government? So the debate is not gonna be over how many facts that are in air quotes or information that is designed to get you to believe something that's been going on since the beginning of time, probably beginning of the definitely beginning of this country. I was born into Dan District in Chicago, and I was raised into O'Neill's. So I know a little bit about manipulation of what you'd call fats, which is why I'm a Republican growing up in Democrat places. So I'll leave with that, but I just wanna remind the public that you're going to be inundated, or if you want, indoctrinated with what I would call information that's designed to get you to believe something that goes contrary to what you believe in your heart. And thank God for this system of government where we we don't need to engage it and debate if we don't believe in something. We just don't know.
Voice Chear it at 2:24:58
Thank you, mister chairman. Thank you. Commissioner Jabbour.
Voice Dhear it at 2:25:03
Thank you, chair. Good afternoon, everybody. So I just wanna touch base on a couple of things. Data center is at the top of our minds, our brains, our tongues. And, yes, commissioner Bain and I and county manager helped to schedule to facilitate a forum, not a meeting. It's not a dialogue. It will be a monologue this Saturday at 10:00 here in Chambers. K? And we will do and and have the format much like we did with the wild horse and burrow issue at the time where we had where we had all sides all sides to come and speak and have have some time to educate all of us all of us. We're all in on this. And so, again, this Saturday, the twenty fifth, 10:00 here in Chambers, please, because a lot of you came forward today. Many of you came forward and had some pertinent information. Whether pro or con, you had pertinent information regarding this these data centers. Right? They're not all the same. Yes. I was at a meeting in Amargosa. I was asked and summoned to come down. I'm the liaison for the Amargosa town board. And I want you to know that Carolyn Allen, who was mentioned earlier, she's the chair of the Amargosa town board. She works very, very hard, very hard. Day well, day and night, sometimes she sends me messages at 03:00 in the morning, and I'm like, oh, her alarm clock must be broken. She works very hard for the people of Amargosa and the community and also and and that includes Crystal. Crystal doesn't have an advisory board or a town board. So it it does encompass Crystal because of the Basin 230 that flows into Basin 162, by the way. And so I would like to speak on splash pads because I was here when when the original proposal came before us. And I know that it's going to be addressed during manager comments, and I'd like to jump back in at that time, because I don't wanna misspeak, but I do wanna hear I do wanna hear the information from the, director as to why certain things have happened and why certain things have not happened. And then I'd like to, jump back in, chair, if, you don't mind. Sure. So thank you, and I'll I'll yield at this time. Thank you. Commissioner Strickland. Thank you for your comments. Commissioner Jabbour, I have nothing to add. Thank you. Commissioner Koenig.
Voice Ehear it at 2:28:09
I don't wanna prolong this anymore. We have to, so I have nothing.
Voice Chear it at 2:28:13
Thanks. I have a couple of comments. So there's a bunch of people here that are that are holding up their on signs and are very upset and angry about data centers that we have not approved that we have not approved, that we know none of the facts on yet, that we know none of the information on. But it's like an angry mob carrying their pitchforks, and I just don't understand how you can scream and demand that we be respectful to you when you can be asses to us. Hell no. That's not how that works. Secondly, here's a perfect example. There was a screenshot on the data center forum where somebody responds and says, aptly named Karen, I don't want to know about them. I don't want to learn anything about them. I just don't want them. What the hell is that? Where where do you learn? How do you? If there was a shoe store that wanted to come here, I would need to know the positives and the negatives of that shoe store before I voted for it. That is what we're supposed to do here. So I apologize to the normal people in this audience and on the phone listening to have to watch that BS and listen to that garbage from the angry mob. And if that mob thinks they're gonna change my mind in one way or another, good luck on that one. Any managers, please?
Voice Fhear it at 2:29:43
Thank you, chair. Thank you very much.
Voice Ghear it at 2:29:47
If I could, sir. Go ahead. Just quickly. I wanted to comment first about the public comment that was made regarding the laying of the fiber. Oh, yeah. Okay. He's completely mis misinformed, lying, shall I say? No. He actually met with my office yesterday. So we had a meeting with him. And this is much more complicated because they they want to put this fiber into our right of way. And then we have issues of making sure that there's not any risks to anything else. And obviously, some issues to work out with regards to that. So this is not as easy and simple as he wants it to be. And understand that we're not this isn't we're not getting anything out of his grant. This is his grant that he received. And so we we just have to be careful with that. But again, we did we did meet yesterday in my office. I did want to comment also on the the question that came up with regards to what was happening in Amargosa. I just want the board to understand that I'm actually in the process of completing a response to an open meeting law complaint that was filed by this individual. My investigation is is pretty clear that what happened was they were given a certain amount of time and don't remember exactly. I think it was, like, six minutes that they were allowed to talk during this open forum. She refused to give up the mic, kept being belligerent and angry, and ultimately had to be escorted out of there. So, again, that's this matter that I am dealing with, and we'll have a response back to the attorney general's office on that open meeting while complaint.
Voice Fhear it at 2:31:28
Jeremiah, add one thing to DA. On August 6 at 6PM, that fiber Internet groundbreaking
Voice Chear it at 2:31:36
will be at the Ruth Center if you wanna learn more about that too. Thank you, chair. Thank you. I also wanna add one quick thing. The 30 people or 20 people or 10 people who show up to these things or go all over Nextdoor and the social media apps and things like that, griping and complaining about everything under the sun. They don't represent the 50,000 people here. Most of us are normal thinking forward folks who have spent three decades here, raised a kid here, centered through college here. Those of you who show up from California ten minutes ago and tell us what we're doing wrong, screw that. Come on up.
Voice Hhear it at 2:32:26
Christy Sigman, SIEGMUND, manager animal services. I just wanna start by actually saying thank you, a public thank you to two, groups of people. First, our volunteers at the shelter. Their work does not go unnoticed. It changes the lives of these animals in the shelter every single day. They've helped make these dogs socialized, adoptable. It really, really matters and makes a difference. So I just want to thank them publicly. I also wanna thank the community publicly. Our return to owner rate in this first twenty one days of this month has increased almost 20%. So thank you guys so much for coming to the shelter, picking up your dogs when they get out. It makes a huge difference to our space in the shelter as well as to the life of that animal. We're also seeing an increase of donations. Those donations, words can't even quite describe the impact that those donations of food, litter, beds, blankets, sheets, towels, it really truly changes the lives of those animals in the shelter. So I wanted to start by saying thank you to to those people. This month, we are still in the BISSELL Empty the Shelter event. We have seen 35 adoptions, which is wonderful so far in the first twenty one days. We still have over 80% of our shelter is available for adoption. Kittens, cats, adults, seniors, you name it. We even have a rooster and a pig and a bunny. And and fun fact, so the rooster and the pig came in together, and so, they are very appropriately named Heihei and Pua from Moana because they are together. Just we we like to have fun. But they are available for adoption. So someone who says, oh, we only have the same kinds of animals in the shelter, I say come and see our shelter because we have all different kinds, breed, sizes, ages, you name it. $20 adoption fee for the whole rest of the month. And then on this Saturday, the twenty fifth, I believe, of July, we are having our adopt and shop event, which we have every single year, but this one is special. This is our Christmas in July where fees will be waived for the entire day. So if that $20 still poses a financial strain on you, come down this Saturday. Fees will be waived. We literally have over a 100 animals in that shelter available for adoption. So come and check them out. And then we are gonna roll into August, and continue the fun because we have been accepted and will be participating in the NBC clear the shelter event all through the month of August. So you will continue to see those $20 adoption fees, all the way through September 1. So pretty exciting stuff. Come and see us. Thank you. Chair? Yeah.
Voice Fhear it at 2:35:21
Koenig, you guys wanna say anything about the donkeys and the case on the donkeys? Yes.
Voice Ehear it at 2:35:28
I can do a quick little thing on the donkeys. We had donkeys, didn't we? We had donkeys, a couple 100 donkeys. Couple 100 donkeys. And
Voice Dhear it at 2:35:40
Must be an echo in here. A 160. 160.
Voice Ehear it at 2:35:43
Okay. And they were farmed out to various people who took them, and we had to pay the fee, and it came to a $140,000, something like that. 132,548. Close enough.
Voice Hhear it at 2:35:56
Asking how I know that exactly.
Voice Ehear it at 2:35:58
Court was finally the other day, and I had to testify briefly because I I kept telling them. All I did was go up there to look at 160 donkeys, see what they look like. They didn't believe me, but that was alright. And then their lawyer asked me, while you were there, did they did the donkeys look healthy? And I told them that I am not a veterinarian. So, anyways, we won. They owe us a 130 some odd thousand dollars in change. So it was a good thing that happened. And the donkeys that have been farmed out, I guess the people that have them can keep them if they want. And if the ones that they don't keep will be up for adoption.
Voice Hhear it at 2:36:44
Yes. So most of the fosters are keeping the animals that they have. We will have some that will be available for adoption. This win was a huge win, not only for the animal or for the county, but for the animals as well. They they have changed so dramatic dramatically and drastically in the last year that they've been with these fosters. So I am I'm very, very happy with the outcome.
Voice Ehear it at 2:37:09
Those those 100 and some odd donkeys were on, what, one acre of land. So They're a hoarder. It's kind of squishy. Let's put it that way. Yeah. They weren't happy.
Voice Ghear it at 2:37:21
Thank you for the Fosters. Thank you. Could I add to that too? Thank you. We are initiating collection actions, because we actually got a judgment against her for that amount. So we are initiating collection actions to collect that amount so that we can reimburse ourselves, for the cost that went went. And, and so, again, we're we're moving forward now with the next stage of making sure that we get everything collected. Good job, DA. Yeah. Because all that money came out of the, shelters budget,
Voice Ehear it at 2:37:48
so she essentially has no budget left. So
Voice Ahear it at 2:37:52
we'll fix it. And to your senior deputy, Brad Richardson, well done.
Voice Fhear it at 2:38:01
You go, Brad. Good job, Brad.
Voice Chear it at 2:38:04
Thank you, Christie. Thank you, Christie. Alright, Jimmy. Are you ready?
Voice Dhear it at 2:38:14
Jimmy. Hello. Jimmy. Yes. You're on. Thank you.
Voice Ihear it at 2:38:19
Jimmy Martinez, m a r t n e z. Trying to address as much as I can with the splash pad. It's not as beautiful as Las Vegas, of course, but we don't have their money. So we try to make as best as we can with the money that we have. It is secure. It is safe. They we blocked it off so we don't have kids running all over the place. We did look into Las Vegas. Las Vegas has issues with kids running around all over, and I've seen parents chase their kids. So to help this out, so they're not running, we close it off. And also second benefit of having what we have as a brick structure is to prevent our investment. Of course, when during construction, we had a dust storm, and we had to go clean everything. The dust out of the lines and out of everything, if that would happen and we didn't have that brick structure as of now, we would have been spending a large amount of money to replace all the stuff. We have once we started, everybody wanted a they want the splash pad because it was fresh water. We went to a reclaimed water like everybody wanted. That is a big cost because we're recirculating the water, chemically treating it, everything like that. So that is lot, pumps, power, all that stuff that needs to be done. It is slip resistant. It's not paint. Well, I mean, it is paint, but it has slip resistant texture on there. So if you go on there, it is slip resistant. It is ADA compliant at all level. It only drains to the drains, and there is a ramp where people with wheelchair access can walk, come up from the street to the curb and walk on or, sorry, roll on if they need to. There is benches. Yes. And there is no shade as of right now. It is on order. I just got told a few minutes ago the PO is in my emails and I'll be moving forward with the company. The town is installing them to save cost because the we only had 5 thousands for the shade and it's more money than 5,000. We're the rest of the money is coming out of my budget as in parks departments to, cover the difference to get shade. So that is coming in town. Buildings and grounds is installing it. It's all engineered. We will put that through permitting and everything. For the splash pad, the company does it all day long. They come out. They just did one in North Northern Nevada before they did ours. It came out great. I think this came out great. Yep. It's not as beautiful, like I said, as Las Vegas, but it's our first one. We know we need a lot more money for the next one. So, what else do I got here? It's not just one feature. There's multiple features. They're just in the ground. You only see one. It's not a prison shower. Actually, ours is nicer than a prison shower. I don't know if you've been to prison. It's unless you're with Martha Stewart. I mean, go on. So we are we do everything we can with the money we have. Reason why it takes so long is because we got to do a lot of bidding process. Once we go through the bidding process, it tricks prevailing wage. So that's where a lot of our money comes from. Prevailing wage to provide a service that did a contractor come out here and do the work. So you didn't steal the money. You didn't do any of the stuff that these
Voice Chear it at 2:41:34
some of these people Oh, I didn't know I stopped doing. Mean, they can You see my spent what you were supposed to spend, and you did what you were Every penny went into that splash pad, if not more. Exactly my point.
Voice Dhear it at 2:41:48
Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you, chair. Thank you, Jimmy, for for coming and and giving us some clarification and explanation. As I mentioned, I was seated commissioner when this, first was proposed. And most recently, I've been to, the Simpkins Park to review and monitor. And one of the commenters mentioned that, commissioner, Koenig has been there, and I'm not sure how they know if we're there or not there. They asked us to take cameras down, and we did. There's no camera over there. None. No. So I have some concerns. And I understand that there is a budget budget issues, and you had to make some modifications due to the water issue, the reclamation, and the pump. That's not that's not inexpensive. I get it. But I just wanna bring a few things to your attention to see if we can find some money because it has to be done right before we even move on to think of another splash pad. Let me talk about the benches for a moment. There's two benches that can fit probably four people comfortably. There were a couple of families here earlier today that said, I'm a mother of six. My mother had five. And taking us to the to the beach, to the ocean, to the pool, to the lake, etcetera, with the big beach bag, okay, that's not even adequate for one family, the bench. You have two benches. Okay? So we're only going to welcome and accommodate two families in in reality, or they have to bring their own beach chairs and umbrellas, etcetera. And then if they bring their own umbrellas because there's no shade, which is very important. Right? Yeah. The answer is not go into the water and get cooled off. There's no refuge from the sun when you're in the water. It makes it worse, and it's magnified to get a sunburn. And these are children that we're talking about. Right? And so umbrellas, personal umbrellas, not safe. We're talking about safety. We're always talking about safety because the wind will pick up and take the umbrella and maybe maybe impale somebody or poke somebody in the eye, what have you, worst case scenario. Right? And so my main issue that I'm going to address are the ballots.
Voice Ghear it at 2:44:46
Commissioner, I I'm sorry. This is this is getting into lengthy
Voice Dhear it at 2:44:51
discussions. Yes. Yes. It is. To put this on an agenda item. I don't think it's appropriate to do this during We can we can put it on an agenda. But if you don't mind, mister DA, let me finish with this. This is my last I'm advising you not to.
Voice Ghear it at 2:45:04
I I'm I have to this is getting off of what is appropriate for manager's comments. This should be put on an agenda item publicly.
Voice Dhear it at 2:45:13
Okay. Manager, if we could put this on the next agenda item. Okay? And mister Dier, one of the issues that was mentioned was to postpone the the, ribbon cutting, which which really is going to be humorous if we allow that to go on. Would you mind me addressing that to postpone that, be able to postpone that
Voice Ghear it at 2:45:41
before the agenda? All I can do is give you advice. I've given you my advice. I again, this is getting into lengthy discussions of an item that's not on the agenda for the public to understand this is what's going to be discussed. Again, there's nothing that says that you can't discuss things with the county manager outside the meeting. And if you have concerns, my suggestion is that you deal with him with you know, outside the meeting.
Voice Dhear it at 2:46:13
Uh-huh. I understand. Manager, if we can get this on the next agenda, please splash pad. And and, Jimmy, I hope you'll be available for that too, and we'll we'll I'll resume at that time. Okay. Thank you, sir. Think I know your answer to what you're talking about? No. We have to stop it. Okay. We have to stop it.
Voice Dhear it at 2:46:42
k. Thank you, mister Dier. Thank you, chair, and and thank you, folks. We'll we'll get this on the next agenda.
Voice Chear it at 2:46:49
Thank you, Jimmy. Thank you, Jimmy. Sam, do we have any
Voice Jhear it at 2:46:54
managers or director on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 2:47:01
Good, good afternoon, commissioners. Braylen Powers, POWERS, treasurer for Nye County. I just wanted to share that the real property tax bills have been mailed. My department processed these in house. This is our third year now. The last batch was taken to the post office yesterday. I would be amiss if I did not give a shout out to our IT department and to our assessors. We had mechanical failure with our Xerox. Our IT department came to our rescue and orchestrated the same day fix, and our assessors provided a temporary printing solution for our tax bills as well allowed us to utilize their mail folding inserting machine here in Pahrump. I also wanna give a huge shout out to the deputies in my department. This is a huge project for us, and they knocked it out of the ballpark once again. And to the deputies up north, thank you so much for taking care of our daily operations while we administered mailing 60,000 tax bills. So thank you everybody for a great job, and definitely thank you IT and assessors. The first due date is August 17. It does fall on the third Monday in August every year. That is by NRS standards. The NRS also allows for an automatic ten day grace period, pushing that official due date out to August 27. And that is all I wanted to share on that note, commissioners.
Voice Chear it at 2:48:41
Thank you, Raelyn. Sam, anybody, come on up, chief.
Voice Lhear it at 2:48:49
Good afternoon, commissioner Scott Lewis, director of emergency management. On a Friday evening, not too long ago, there was a serious fire that occurred in Beatty that ultimately took down three structures. Our volunteers did an outstanding job protecting the nearby exposures and worked tirelessly throughout the evening and overnight hours. Unfortunately, a person lost their life in that fire. The fire is under investigation by the deputy state fire marshal, and emergency management responded to support the command staff that had been established. And one firefighter was transported to our local hospital for evaluation overnight.
Voice Chear it at 2:49:30
Sad news, but I thought you should know. Thank you. Thank you for that. That was a bad one. Sam, do we have any other managers?
Voice Jhear it at 2:49:37
There's a hand raised, but I'm not sure. Let's check it out. It's We're adventurous today. Caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ihear it at 2:49:48
I apologize. We are we on item eight? No. No. No.
Voice Chear it at 2:49:53
No. That would be lovely if we were. Oh, after lunch.
Voice Fhear it at 2:49:57
Count on after lunch.
Voice Chear it at 2:50:02
Alright. So that's it then. Right? That's it. Okay. Closing that out. Number whatever the next one is.
6. For Possible Action - Emergency Items
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Item six for possible action, emergency items. I just wanted to bring back to you guys, last meeting. On the seventh, we had a bunch of the liquor licensing, that was on the agenda. There were a couple of licenses that didn't get renewed. One of them particularly was Breakthrough Beverage. Since then, we have kinda learned Excuse me, chair.
Voice Bhear it at 2:50:56
Yes, sir. Excuse me, manager. Mr. DA. This is in regards to an emergency item, and we're going to be discussing liquor licensing. I think it would be appropriate that we call the sheriff, the chair of the liquor licensing board at this time. Thank you. Handing it to you, Joe.
Voice Ahear it at 2:51:31
So, to continue, we learned some information that kinda gave some explanation as to why the we had not received the renewal fees and stuff from the applicant that we just learned here recently. So I had asked the DA about doing this emergency item to, if nothing else, temporarily reinstate the license until we can conduct the show cause, which is how the code actually requires a full on reinstatement. Just because I have heard from several of the businesses in town that this is hurting their business because they have not been able to get restocked. Breakthrough Beverage is the if not the only distributor that is being used in town, they are definitely the main distributor being used in town. And there is a representative in the audience if you guys have any questions. But our intentions are to bring back an item on August 4 to the Liquor and Licensing Board for a show cause, and they can provide a more detailed explanation. Breakthrough beverage. So how would chair handle this item specifically? Mean, Yeah. Yeah, like any other mean, believe you could have discussion on it. You can do public comment on it. We're looking for a motion? Well well, I think you'd have to do public comment. Well, I know that. But Oh, yeah. Ultimately, you're looking for a motion. Looking for a motion to temporarily reinstate.
Voice Chear it at 2:53:17
Temporary reinstate. Show cause on August 4. August 4? Yes. So do we need to formally open the meeting of the licensing and liquor board? Okay. So done.
Voice Chear it at 2:53:35
So is there any comments from the board before we go to public comment?
Voice Ahear it at 2:53:41
I have none, chair. I have none.
Voice Bhear it at 2:53:45
Do we want to hear from the applicant?
Voice Chear it at 2:53:48
Oh, yes. Yeah. You said somebody was here? Okay. Yes. So so that you're aware, we can't take any testimony as far as reasoning behind the nonpayment. If I'm not mistaken, it would be the right way to go with it. Yeah. That would be for the stroke cost. Yeah. This would just be a general statement.
Voice Ahear it at 2:54:14
If you have if if any of us had questions for him. Mhmm. That's fine. Item. Good
Voice Ehear it at 2:54:24
afternoon, commissioners and city management. My name is Kevin Wilkerson. I am employee of Breakthrough Beverage Nevada, VP of Trade Development, and I wanted to come down. I want to apologize for what you're referring to. There was some administrative errors that happened. There was three sets of checks sent out. We were certainly were not trying sorry. Oh, save that for the show. Yeah. So anyways, this we wouldn't just come down in person, state our apology. Payment has been made, and now we're just trying to find a resolution so we don't have to wait through August 4. It's impacting our customers. It's impacting our citizens. So we're looking for a resolution. Ask any questions you would like. Chair, I'd like to request that you, that you spell your name for the record. Kevin Wilkerson, w I l k e r s o n. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 2:55:17
Wanna do public?
Voice Chear it at 2:55:20
Yeah. Public comment? Thank you. Any public comment?
Voice Dhear it at 2:55:27
Don't see anybody. Nobody in tonal pod. Do we have anybody on the phone? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 2:55:36
Hello, commissioners. Hello, sheriff Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. I didn't hear anybody define that this qualifies for an emergency item. You're basically bypassing original process, due process and protocol, you know, unless you're willing to admit on the record that you did, in fact, caused these folks harm and loss. An emergency item. Sheriff, what's it called when you borrow without a state an emergency? Thank you. Let's stick to the constitutionality of this. Come on now. Thank you all.
Voice Chear it at 2:56:19
Thank you. Anybody else? No, chair.
Voice Chear it at 2:56:23
With that, we'll close public comment. I'd like to make a motion. K.
Voice Dhear it at 2:56:28
Motion is to issue a temporary license until August 4 for breakthrough beverages.
Voice Ahear it at 2:56:35
Second. May I ask for one correction? A reinstatement. A temporary reinstatement.
Voice Dhear it at 2:56:41
A temporary their reinstatement license good until a August 4. So amended second.
Voice Chear it at 2:56:48
K. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? If not, take the Or show cause. Or show cause. Or show cause. Thank you. Yeah. So we need to, get that on the agenda for a show cause for August 4. Aye.
Voice Chear it at 2:57:03
That is six. Thank you, chair. Thank you. And we'll close the liquor licensing. Thank you, sheriff.
Voice Bhear it at 2:57:09
Okay. Yeah. No shit. Seven,
7. 10:00 a.m. - For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation regarding the monthly statement of county treasurer pursuant to NRS 354.280 including receipts, balances in funds, money on deposit, outstanding checks, and cash on hand.
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Item 07:10AM timed item for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the monthly statement of county treasurer pursuant to NRS 354.28, including receipts, balances and funds, money on deposit, outstanding checks and cash on hand.
Voice Bhear it at 2:57:34
Thanks for that. Hey, Ray, do we have Ray Lynn on the phone please, Sam?
Voice Chear it at 2:57:39
Yes, sir. Hello? Good afternoon again, commissioners. Hello. Raylan Powers, POWERS, treasurer for Nye County. Today's presentation is our bank reconciliation and treasurer's report for the month of May. Everything looks to be in order and moving along just fine with our bank reconciliation and treasurer's report. We are gearing up for the close of fiscal year '26. We are working hand in hand with our finance department. Nothing really outstanding to report this month, commissioners. Do we have any questions?
Voice Bhear it at 2:58:18
Thank you. Any questions for Raelynn before I open public comment? No, sir. Nada. Okay, Sam. Let's open public comment, please.
Voice Dhear it at 2:58:27
Thank you, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 2:58:33
Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. I'd like to ask the treasurer if this reconciliation includes the late fees or fines from the businesses in District 1 that didn't pay their taxes on time. Has that all been reconciled around $89,000
Voice Bhear it at 2:59:01
Thank you, Sam. Do you have anybody else?
Voice Bhear it at 2:59:06
let's yeah. Let's do public, Raelyn, please. Sam, do we have anybody else? Understand.
Voice Dhear it at 2:59:14
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Chear it at 2:59:20
That's Borisiewicz, b o r y s e w I c h. I was wondering why we took $920,000 out of an interest bearing account in Wells Fargo, and where did that money go? And would it have been better just to leave it back in that account to get some interest? And then I have, like, three or four other questions. I don't know if you want me to just read them or not, but why was the Flint scholarship account reduced to zero? Is it because we went and gave all of the scholarship money out? What caused the 1,130,000 increase in deposits in transit in May? Are there any outstanding vendor checks older than one hundred and eighty days? Which capital project funds are significantly behind schedule? And how much of the general fund balance is unrestricted versus legally committed? And those are my questions.
Voice Bhear it at 3:00:18
Thanks, Beth. Sam, do we have anybody else, please?
Voice Dhear it at 3:00:22
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 3:00:28
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, GARCIA. And once again, I thank you all to consider preserving these records for state and federal violations. Thank you all.
Voice Bhear it at 3:00:42
How about now, Sam? No, chair. We're gonna close public comment. And, Raelyn, if anybody has questions for you, they can email you. You don't have to go through it here. Thank you though. If there's nothing else, we're going close that item. Thank you. Eight, please. Uh-uh. Nope. Nope. Sorry. Hold, please. Hey, we're taking lunch. Let's do yeah. Let's do some easy ones. Which one would those be first? Please tell me if you want. Let's do fifteen. Let's do consent.
8. 10:00 a.m. - For Possible Action - Public Hearing, discussion and deliberation regarding a request to adopt, amend and adopt, or reject Nye County Bill No. 2026-01: A Bill proposing to Amend Nye County Code Title 17, titled Comprehensive Land Use Planning and Zoning, Chapter 17.10 titled Special Use Permits; Section 17.10.010 titled Definitions by adding the definition of Approved Assignee”, “Commence or Commencement”, “Permit Holder”, and “Person”; Section 17.10.050 titled Requirement To Obtain A Special Use Permit by providing for an extension of time and for obtaining a written letter from a Town Board; Deleting Section 17.10.080 titled Designation Of Use In Districts In The Pahrump Regional Planning District; Section 17.10.090 titled Approval Process by amending the process for an application for special use permit and waiver applications; Section 17.10.100 titled Preliminary Development Plan Approval by removing the requirement for the applicant’s signature, adding entering into a development agreement, and amending the documents needed to submit for preliminary development plan approval and final development plan approval; Section 17.10.120 titled Building Permits And Commencement Of Construction by requiring applicant to attend a pre-development meeting; Section 17.10.140 titled Development Standards by requiring applicant conduct an audible A-weighted sound pressure level test; and Section 17.10.150 titled Setbacks And Height Restrictions by removing height restrictions of SECS 2 solar panel and allowed variances, and amending the allowed waivers for setback and distance restrictions; and providing for the severability, constitutionality, and effective date thereof; and other matters properly relating thereto.
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Item 08:10AM timed item for possible action, public hearing discussion and deliberation regarding a request to adopt, amend and adopt or reject Nye County bill number twenty twenty six dash zero one, a bill proposing to amend Nye County code title 17, titled comprehensive land use planning and zoning chapter 17.1 titled special use permits. Section seventeen-ten-ten titled definitions by adding the definition of approved assignee commence or commencement permit holder in person. Section seventeen ten zero fifty, titled requirement to obtain special use permit by providing for an extension of time and for obtaining a written letter from a town board, deleting section seventeen-ten-eight-zero titled Designation of Use in Districts in the Pahrump Regional Planning District, section seventeen-ten-ninety titled Approval Process by Amending the Process for an Application for a Special Use Permit in Waiver Applications, Section seventeen-ten-one 100 titled Preliminary Development Plan Approval by Removing the Requirement for the Applicant Signature, adding, entering into a development agreement, and amending the documents needed to submit for a preliminary development plan approval and final development plan approval, section seventeen ten one two zero, title building permits and commencement of construction by requiring applicant to attend a predevelopment meeting. Section seventeen ten one four zero, titled development standards by requiring applicant conduct an audible A weighted sound pressure level test in Section seventeen-ten-one 150 titled Setbacks and Height Restrictions by removing height restrictions of SECS to solar panel and allowed variances and amending the allowed waivers for setback and distance restrictions and providing for the severability, constitutionality, and effective date thereof
Voice Bhear it at 4:54:01
and other matters properly relating thereto. Thank you for that. Hello, Celeste. Hello. Celeste Sandoval, s a n d o v a l, assistant director of planning. Before we get into the meat and bones, in the backup, there is some comments from the Beatty Town Advisory Board that I'd like to go over with you all since they weren't incorporated because we'd already received DA sign off. Mhmm. Under seven section seventeen ten o seven o, the town has asked to add that all SEC s one projects enter into a binding town developer community agreement prior to the county adopting a development agreement. If amenable, the verbiage for the first sentence under seventeen ten o seven o would read, standby.
Voice Chear it at 4:54:46
Can you please direct us to where, what page number you're on so that we can read along? You are on.
Voice Dhear it at 4:55:15
Just a comment, but that normally, I don't know who did this, but, you know, normally, it's red like it says it's gonna be, and it's not red this time. It's really hard to find make sure we got all the changes.
Voice Bhear it at 4:55:29
Either copy that was uploaded because everything we sent over was Yeah.
Voice Dhear it at 4:55:35
More red there. More
Voice Ahear it at 4:55:36
red here. There there's a clean version,
Voice Chear it at 4:55:39
John, and a marked up version. Yeah. We know, but we didn't receive any color on anything, and I wasn't gonna bring it up with staff later. Oh, oh, oh. Several
Voice Dhear it at 4:55:48
the ones that got distributed don't have it. Gotcha. And don't so I don't use that. I write on it. So
Voice Bhear it at 4:56:00
page eight of 25.
Voice Ahear it at 4:56:06
On the bottom of the
Voice Chear it at 4:56:08
bottom of the page. Seventeen point ten point o seven 0. Correct? Yes. Please take us to where within that? It's right here. 8Of 25, 71010.
Voice Dhear it at 4:56:25
Eight of 20 I got eight 21. 821.
Voice Chear it at 4:56:29
Well, I'm in the marked up for Oh, the marked up one. Yeah. It should still be
Voice Bhear it at 4:56:35
page eight, I hope.
Voice Chear it at 4:56:36
No. They you know, they take more pages when you mark them up.
Voice Dhear it at 4:56:41
Yeah. Give us a moment.
Voice Chear it at 4:56:48
Yeah. It did. It's still eight. No? Nope.
Voice Ehear it at 4:56:52
Sorry. Energy conversion?
Voice Chear it at 4:56:56
Energy conversion systems.
Voice Bhear it at 4:56:59
Yes. And it's I mean, it's almost kind of like they in their in their backup, they have the wrong section.
Voice Chear it at 4:57:08
Yes. I'm not reading what you had. Yeah. So if you go to
Voice Bhear it at 4:57:13
it would be page 14 of 25. So what it would be seventeen ten one hundred. 15 of 25. It's probably the best place to Now start
Voice Chear it at 4:57:22
that's on the unmarked version then. Is that what you're saying? No. What was the number again, please? 10100. 17101Hundreds. Thank you. I'll just find that. 17101Hundreds.
Voice Ehear it at 4:57:41
Quite large. What letter?
Voice Bhear it at 4:57:45
It's in the chart, actually. Got it. And it's down to where it says, Nevada Division of Water Resources and Nye County Water District governing board. Yes. Okay. So they would like there to actually include Concert? Yes. The the, Beatty water and sanitation district. K. And we are we're we're fine with that if if they want to be added to that because, anyway, they have to be presented to the town boards anyway. So adding in at the same time the town board and the Beatty, sanitation district,
Voice Chear it at 4:58:28
it it's fine with us. They can do them both at the same time.
Voice Fhear it at 4:58:33
Is that something that would have to be in the motion? It'd an
Voice Bhear it at 4:58:41
And they do have the wrong section noted for the binding agreement.
Voice Chear it at 4:58:49
Do we have a section on that we've discovered yet? Is it development standards?
Voice Bhear it at 4:59:07
We could it it actually could go under, under the seventeen ten one hundred for the preliminary development plan approval under e.
Voice Chear it at 4:59:18
And under e, there's a very small it says development agreement application shall file applicant shall file an application is all it says? Yes. And we can add in there,
Voice Bhear it at 4:59:28
if you guys are amenable. Age 10 of 21? Yes. A binding community agreement between the applicant, developer, and all applicable towns outside the PRPD.
Voice Chear it at 4:59:42
You can give that to us in writing so we can make a motion Absolutely. Stated. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:59:47
They also are requesting to be included in our predevelopment meetings. However, predevelopment meetings are for when the project has already obtained all county and town approvals, their special use permit final plan, like, it's ready to go. Right. At that point, any concerns would have already been addressed. So Agreed. That doesn't I don't think that needs to be part of it. Under seventeen ten, one fifty, setbacks and height restrictions. Do you have a question number? 20 of 25. Indeed. Yes.
Voice Chear it at 5:00:24
Sorry. I should have have the clean copy for you. That's alright.
Voice Bhear it at 5:00:35
It is number c. Sorry. Letter c. The PRPD statement? What do you want it Yes. Would like it to state, no solar panel shall be located less than one mile from a private property line in Nye County without the written consent of the private property owner. Oh, we can't go there. Right now, it's it's strictly
Voice Chear it at 5:01:06
related to the PRPD, and they would like some they would like some leverage for their outside. But right now, we have one mile. Yeah. Because they don't really have zoning. They don't really have zoning. So So do they so, again, state what it was they wanted?
Voice Bhear it at 5:01:21
They would like it to state no solar panel shall be located less than one mile from a private property line in Nye County without the written consent of the private property owner. So in fact, this statement that's here says if an applicant blah blah blah, that should say just PRPD
Voice Bhear it at 5:01:41
Well, you could have them out anywhere outside of,
Voice Ahear it at 5:01:46
Beatty as well. I would I would not recommend that because I know that's not the opinion of every other town in that county. Right. So it's only Beatty that's bringing this. So
Voice Dhear it at 5:01:58
Does the one who say in the town of Beatty? They can't stand the way it is because it says PRPD here, and that's not Beatty or Amargosa. Yeah. I think adding the word Beatty is EOB?
Voice Fhear it at 5:02:10
Would be Beatty? Yeah.
Voice Ahear it at 5:02:12
Town limits are town boundary Yes. Of Beatty. Well Yeah. Just because it's,
Voice Chear it at 5:02:19
you know, close to Beatty doesn't mean it's And we're not doing written we're not going there with written residential
Voice Ahear it at 5:02:24
because they've had comments on, for instance, the the one that was out at Sacrobatas Flats, and it's not in our town limits. It's not. Or town It's not close to the residence. Point
Voice Dhear it at 5:02:36
is, the what the way it's written right now has to stay also.
Voice Fhear it at 5:02:41
True. That's a yeah. Adding or
Voice Dhear it at 5:02:45
the town of Beatty. As long as we understand Town boundary. The word. This has got a stake. That gives me the mile here that we want. Mhmm. I'm not gonna lose that.
Voice Chear it at 5:02:56
So it could be stated within the town of Beatty boundaries. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 5:03:04
They are also suggesting the same for seventeen ten one fifty that they no solar panel shall be located less than one half mile from any federal or state highway located in Nye County.
Voice Chear it at 5:03:19
Federal or state? What's that supposed to mean? They're all state highways.
Voice Ghear it at 5:03:27
No. 95 is a U. S. Highway.
Voice Fhear it at 5:03:30
Yeah. That's gonna be I 11 someday.
Voice Chear it at 5:03:36
So are we saying that we jurisdiction. Did
Voice Fhear it at 5:03:39
But, again, it should be specific to the town boundaries of Beatty Yes. Because there's a lot of
Voice Ahear it at 5:03:46
Nye County that isn't in a town boundary. Right. And So right now why would we care? Currently, it's it's,
Voice Bhear it at 5:03:53
Letter D. Yes. It is. Strictly just State State Highway 160.
Voice Chear it at 5:03:58
On the PRTD? Correct. Half mile of so how would we restate that to make it work within a t TOB boundary highway? Would that even work?
Voice Fhear it at 5:04:18
RTC people? Just the state highway within the town boundary of
Voice Chear it at 5:04:25
Beatty. So it really we could drop the 160 from state highway. Not really.
Voice Ahear it at 5:04:34
Good. It's the only well, I mean, you got a three seventy two, but
Voice Chear it at 5:04:41
Now we got Federal Highway. They're asking a lot. Trying to figure out how to do it. Okay. So in the on item d, it could be and within the town of Beatty boundaries on federal highways Adjacent to Adjacent to federal highways? They're killing me here. Federal highways. Okay. Should I should I read this again? If an applicant proposes a project in PRPD, blah blah blah, from State Highway 160 and within the town of Beatty boundaries adjacent to federal highways.
Voice Ahear it at 5:05:42
Or state highways.
Voice Chear it at 5:05:43
Or stair just leave the state. Okay. So we could dry drop that. Then one half mile from a state highway and within town of Beatty boundaries adjacent to federal highways.
Voice Hhear it at 5:06:02
Uh-huh. If any.
Voice Chear it at 5:06:05
If any. I know. Oh, we just won't go to any road. Is that too convoluted? Are you are you able to pull this together? Are you feeling confident with that Yes. That comes directly from the board? Yes. You could get that stated? Yes. That's all that matters. Thank you, chair.
Voice Bhear it at 5:06:25
Your last request, actually, it's a maybe a a comment, under seventeen ten one sixty a for a dish decommissioning security. So that is the the next page. Letter a. So they're suggesting switching over to the solid waste management CPI and not the consumer price index? They're stating using the wrong CPI would expose the county to unanticipated expenses should, accessing the decommissioning security be necessary.
Voice Ahear it at 5:07:06
We we are not allowing any of this into a landfill in Knight County, so I don't think that's appropriate. It's not relevant.
Voice Chear it at 5:07:15
And I'm beginning to wonder accepting it anywhere. I'm beginning to wonder if we're not getting very convoluted with these additional amendments that could come forward should we have interest in Beatty come forward. Yeah.
Voice Bhear it at 5:07:30
I understand. I I thinking, commissioner.
Voice Chear it at 5:07:35
Same. Same. So, right now, I'd I would like to say that I cannot entertain their changes, and I would prefer that they come to us with, amendments when we actually hear a project that's in Beatty. Okay? Thank you. Thank you, Chair. Thank you.
Voice Chear it at 5:07:54
Let's thank you for that, Celeste. Let's open Thank a lot. Thank you. To us. Let's open. Can you keep those notes for our future for Beatty? Absolutely. Thank you.
Voice Fhear it at 5:08:04
Let's, open public comment. Come on up, ma'am.
Voice Jhear it at 5:08:11
This is Stacy Edwards, EDW ARDS. I have no issue with routine housekeeping housekeeping amendments. It's to be expected. However, I'm concerned with the bundling of major policy changes with minor technical administrative updates into a single package. I know every one of you worked hard on the original bill and accepted it unanimously, so I won't bore you with everything. But for the record, this proposal changes the approval process for special use permits and waiver applications. It requires development agreements as part of the approval process. It changes setback waivers and height restrictions. And most concerning, it deletes the entire zoning section, which definitively and without question, governs where large scale solar may and may not be located in Pahrump. Those are not minor edits. Each one has real impact on our community and deserves its own public discussion to answer questions like why, what problems are these changes solving, and how does it benefit us. When the zoning section is deleted with nothing replacing it when the zoning section is deleted with nothing replacing it, Who then decides where the large scale solar can and cannot be in prompt and who benefits from it?
Voice Fhear it at 5:09:50
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Oh,
Voice Jhear it at 5:09:53
never mind. There's about three or four people in here that would benefit from it, and I think it's safe to say none of them live here.
Voice Fhear it at 5:10:01
Okay. Sam, do we have anybody on the who?
Voice Jhear it at 5:10:04
I'd like to remind everyone that transparency isn't just about giving notice. If these proposals are truly in the public's best interest, why not present each one separately? Why make the public sweat through 40 plus pages of unrelated policy changes to understand what's really being proposed? I mean, you guys were all confused up here with what she was proposing. She also added there was something that she mentioned that's not written in this in this item. So with that, if you're not already planning on rejecting this, I respectfully ask it to be tabled and each substantive policy change be presented to the public separately so that people have a real chance to understand what this is about. Because if people did understand all the data sent to people, they'd still be here.
Voice Khear it at 5:10:58
Thank you very much. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Lhear it at 5:11:07
Matthew Winterhawk for the record. I'm gonna request that item eight should not be adopted today. Chair Boscovich, you know, he asked earlier. He said, hey. Our data center is on the agenda. The words data center might not be on there, but the infrastructure absolutely is. Chapter governs commercial power generation, battery storage, substations, transmission lines, and gentile connections. The infrastructure capable of powering enormous industrial campus like the one now being proposed in prompt like Mance Technology Campus. Residents have learned not to wait for the final project name. Are following the land, the infrastructure, the permit, and money before you tell us it's too late. Your own bill recognizes that these projects can damage roads, bridges, drainage, threaten neighboring property, create environmental and public safety risk, and leave Nye County exposed when projects fail and or are abandoned. Yet this bill defines commencement so weakly that a developer may preserve a permit by merely obtaining a building permit, grading the land, beginning demolition, and or placing some construction materials. That is not substantial construction. That is a sand and or paper trigger capable of turning a permit, a bulldozer, or one scraped acre into an argument for festive rights. The permit may then remain alive for five years with annual renewals handled administratively until that minimal definition of commencement is satisfied. The bill also creates an approved assignee category covering affiliates, lenders, secured parties, foreclosure, purchasers, and collateral assignees. It says transfers may not be unreasonably withheld with excluding approved assignees from what accounts as a transfer. Nye County could approve one applicant while financing ownership or control later moves through entities or the public never evaluated. We just had a name change for Mance that came through as Ativan and something else. So that's in reference to that. While notice remains only 300 feet right now, town board presentation requirements specifically also excludes Pahrump. The section governing use designations within Pahrump Regional Planning District is being deleted. Height setback and waiver provisions are being changed. This is not a minor cleanup. You are defining how easily a developer can establish momentum, how long entitlement can survive, and how quietly control can change hands. I am requesting that the motion continue. I'dimate with written direction, honestly. Commencement requires substantial, lawful construction, even discretionary approval, not paperwork, demolition, or grading. Every extension assignment, affiliate transfer, or change, or control require beneficial ownership disclosure, updated studies, public notice with a public hearing. Pahrump received the same town board review required elsewhere. Notice reached affected communities, domestic well owners, not stopped at 300 feet, and no energy project be segmented from the data center or industrial customer that it is principally designed to serve. Publish a clean red line and a plain English impact statement. Return through planning, the water district, emergency management, fire officials, public review. Nye County must not manufacture vested rights faster than residents can discover what exactly is being built. Continue item eight. Do not approve it. Close the loopholes before you create the next one that is not gonna be able to stop the next project, please. Thank you.
Voice Fhear it at 5:13:55
Thank you. Come on down to Perham, please.
Voice Mhear it at 5:14:04
Hello. My name is Faith Boskett, f a I t h b o s k e t. Good evening, commissioners and Prump Valley family. Let everyone understand, data centers are not the big danger on the agenda today. Large solar is. There are several major policy changes regarding solar that completely reshape the land use in Trump. Deleting the solar citing rules entirely, it's easier for staff but devastating for residents. Rewriting the approval process for special use permits and waivers equals fewer steps, less transparency, fewer chances for the public to notice what's happening, things streamlined in a detrimental way. Removal of height limits for large scale solar taller, more visible industrial solar structures. This would be more than just an unpleasant eyesore. Loosening setbacks and distance waivers will allow solar to be built closer to homes, wells, roads. This benefits the developer, but residents lose tremendously. This 47 page item has extra major changes. These changes need to be clearly understood and clearly discussed so that people can fully understand the dangers. If the county wants to make major policy changes, they should present each change separately, simply worded so to be understood. I request that this be tabled and then changes can be presented separately in separate meetings for discussion or completely rejected today. Thank you, commissioners, in advance for upholding the protections, and thank you, Prime Valley family, for being diligent to protect your town.
Voice Fhear it at 5:15:52
Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 5:16:07
Come on up in Pahrump. It almost rained. It did.
Voice Nhear it at 5:16:14
Good evening, commissioners. Sharon, last name is Cruz, c r u I s e. Unfortunately, I did not have my time to do the due diligence as a lot of the people in the audience did. So there were only two items that I saw that I wanted to touch base on. And the first one was under section seventeen ten one hundred, and it says that you wanna remove the requirement of the applicant's signature. And I found that extremely disturbing because usually when a person signs their name to an application, they are stating that the information is true. And then the second item was under seventeen ten one fifty that talked about removing the height restrictions as well as setbacks and distanced restrictions. And that seemed extremely concerning to me as mentioned in the young lady before me of what could happen. And those are my comments, and I hope you take them seriously and just hold off on this. Thank you very much. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ohear it at 5:17:26
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. Pardon me. I was at the planning and zoning meeting last Wednesday, and the room was packed. Every single person in that room was against changing the master plan and adopting the things you're looking at today. Absolutely against it. It hasn't been that long since this has been put in as part of the master plan so the people in those areas know what they're buying into. It's not a good thing right now. The public is against any of this, especially something that will pave the way and open the doors for any data centers or any solar projects. I, for one, am absolutely against this. I hope you, deny this a complete item. Thank you.
Voice Fhear it at 5:18:29
Thank you. Come on up, sir.
Voice Hhear it at 5:18:33
Thank you. Bob Adams, ADAMS, and here is the secretary of Pearl Public Land Advisory Committee, commonly known as BLAC, that the text of the original legislation was run through plaque by then planning director, Gwydner. And something that was a big deal was the zoning. And I noticed that the table the zoning table on 17 Dot 10 Dot 080 has been deleted. Please do not delete that item. Put it back in. And, also the same thing on the height height restrictions on 17 Dot 10 Dot 150. Keep those height restrictions in place. No variances on them, but, unless you can in other words, it's something that have to be justified, but not just arbitrarily removed.
Voice Fhear it at 5:19:34
Thank you. Thank you.
Voice Khear it at 5:19:36
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Phear it at 5:19:45
Paul Greenewalt, p a u l g r e e n a w a l t. Just wanted to express a concern that I see here, section 17 dot 10 dot one forty that talks about requiring an applicant to conduct an audible a weighted sound pressure level test. I can't tell from this what all this might apply to, but I think that one of the things that's come up with the the data center is that it's become clear that a weighted testing may not account for all of the possible noise impacts or physiological effects. So I personally am not an expert in this. I would hope that the BSC would consult with somebody who who is an expert in the topic. And before this is passed, figure out whether or not they need to look at a much broader range of testing. Thanks.
Voice Fhear it at 5:20:39
Thank you. Come on up, Susie.
Voice Qhear it at 5:20:44
Hi. Susie Hertz, h e r t z. I'm not an expert in zoning and ordinances, but I can read and I have an education and I can understand things. And I read through all of the backup and the all of the changes that are proposed here. And I agree with the people who preceded me wholeheartedly. This is a major overhaul, and it is abundantly clear to me that this is a favoring of large scale solar. And large scale solar is the power to drive data centers. We have been against large scale solar in this town since it began to be an issue a few years ago. I don't think that has changed in any way, shape, or form. If anything, now that it's a marker for potential data centers, it's even a hotter negative issue. I think that the changes that were made, the setback forgiveness, the noise level increases that are not a problem through this new ordinance material, These are all issues that are harmful to this community and are topics that the people here don't agree with and I don't agree with. And I feel that it's really important for you to revisit this with a much broader public forum review so that the people in this community can see what you intend to do. I mean, at at the very minimum that somebody's allowed to to make an application and doesn't have to sign for it. It's the most basic of things. I mean, the constitution, the declaration of independence was done by signatures, and now we're just going to throw them away and allow people to electronically or politically or whatever way they want to move forward with these projects. And the people in this town and this county have no control over them if this new ordinance and this new proposal goes through. It is not a good fit for us. And it is not something that preserves this community and this county. And you have only to look at some of the other communities around this state already who have fallen into these kinds of loopholes and had problems. Boulder City is a shining example and people have finally stood up, paid attention, and started to be a little bit more straightforward about our needs. Thank you.
Voice Ihear it at 5:23:58
Linda Clark, c l a r k. Well, we're exactly where I thought we would be today. We are being told again that this is what we need. And guess what? You held it to the last item again. So the people that were here earlier can't make comments on it. Go figure. What's that up to? It's not fair to this community. I don't know what you think we are. Yeah. I think you are. You think we're just a bunch of dumbasses. But we're not. We live here. We pay our rent. We pay our property taxes. We try to come and listen to you people. It's worthless. We don't get anywhere. You don't care. You show that you don't care. And it's it's it's beyond belief that this is happening in a modern day community. And I don't know where we go from here. I know where I would wanna go. I would vote all of you out and start fresh. But we can't do that based on the laws. So you take your chances and we'll get to you eventually like I said on my t shirt. We're not done yet. So think about it. And you still need to explain to me why you have to wait till the last minute of the day to bring this up when you know people aren't here to talk about it. Yeah. Smile. It's pretty sneaky, isn't it? Thank you.
Voice Khear it at 5:25:31
Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. This is the same caller every time. Okay. Come on up, mister Fender.
Voice Ehear it at 5:25:53
Hi there. Mike Fender, f e n d e r. And I did find a few things here within this, within title 17. And I've read it over a few times, and there's a few errors that I could see, but I'm not an engineer. But here here's take pass this on. This is what the this is some of the items that I thought were were important enough and they deal with, spacing and deal with miles and it's
Voice Fhear it at 5:26:18
very quite simple. And I don't wanna get into detail right now as you can read it.
Voice Ehear it at 5:26:22
This it took this two and a half years to get to this and I know it's protection for the for the town and probably for the county as well. There are some agencies out there that will override the our county, period. First of all, we do not have any congressional people in this state that wanna back us up. We don't have any senators that wanna back us up. They stand there and they laugh and they think this is alright. They don't seem to realize what we have here. It's a rural community that's faced with not necessarily a water crisis, but we don't have the ability to main certain solar projects of any great magnitude in this valley. The valley is only 35 miles long, 16 to eight sixteen to eight miles wide. So if we're gonna get anywhere in this town, we cannot turn over any of our land for data centers, solar farms, etcetera, because this is a community now. This is not by any means an industrial park for some some of these outfits out there. Now I'm not saying it's all wrong. I do know we have another 17 solar farms that want to be built out here in the Amargosa Valley area. Is it possible those are gonna happen? You're damn right. It's possible. There's some big bucks out there and I don't think they're gonna throw away $82,000,000 on one lease and another company is gonna throw away another $22,000,000. At some point, we have to have protection for us and this is what this is for and I can see why we need this. Did I just read the first draft? Yes. Did I read the second draft? Yes. Did I add some stuff to it? Yes. I was privy to some of this information so I know what's needed to go and save this part of of Southern Nevada and part of this county. The county's 11,000,000 acres. The only part of this county that this we own is about 3,500 acres. The rest of it is government owned. So we have to protect what little we have here. Not much more than that, but that's about it. When they established this and that these programs in 2007 to 2012, they weren't thinking about people, what the population was gonna be here because there wasn't many people here. Now there is. There's 50,000, not 10,000, not 7,000 when they first did the first PEIS in 2007. So we have to be careful just by doing this is a safeguard for our community and people gotta understand that.
Voice Fhear it at 5:28:58
That's why I'm here arguing for Thank you, miss Fender. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Deborah.
Voice Rhear it at 5:29:13
Based on the discussion oh,
Voice Fhear it at 5:29:15
yes. Thank you.
Voice Rhear it at 5:29:17
Deborah Thomas, t h o m a s. Based on the discussion that I've been listening to, looking at the backup, it appeared to me that it was Beggie. But the people that are coming up here and talking are talking as though it is in Pahrump as well. If it is truly in Beggie, why don't you guys meet with the residents of Beggie, your constituents, and find out what they want to have happen in their community. If it's here, we've been having quite a few town halls. So I think that it would be a good idea to for for you guys to attend those town halls. We'd we'd welcome you. Thank you.
Voice Khear it at 5:30:20
Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Shear it at 5:30:30
Paul Lemus, l e m u s. I was just calling in because we've been following this and some discussion came up in regards to Amargosa and the solar development, which we are aware of. And we've had several different parties, attorneys and other conservationists, looking at possible ways to avoid the national conservancy portion of this. Now there may be a way that with this national conservancy, we can work with them together in the community, and there may be a way that they can help to protect us. But, unfortunately, at this point, some of us kinda feel that mister Jabbour out of our area should have done a little more due diligence prior to, approving what you guys had previously approved, which I believe now has been temporarily held or put on hold. And I just like to say that when the first Ash Meadows agreement was written, there was an agreement. The most important thing in that agreement to us community members was the fire suppression. Those that Peterson Reservoir was a fire retardant
Voice Chear it at 5:31:41
reservoir where they could take Chair, I'm sorry, mister mister Lemus. We'll stop your time, if I may, miss Yeah. Chair. Mister Lemus, we are talking about the Nye County ordinance in regards to solar, and I think you're talking about Yes. The Amagosa item. No.
Voice Shear it at 5:31:57
Okay. Well, I'm sorry. I'm I may rebut that. Okay. Thank you, sir. Go ahead. Go ahead. But that's why that's the reason and the purpose that they put in the application was to avoid the Tonopah, the Tidewater, excuse me, solar project. That's what started the whole thing. That's why they were supposedly submitting. So therefore, it's directly affecting us because when they did that, they encompass several properties, including the Fuentes family, who's had their water stolen from them. When they encompass that area, I don't think family residents like that who have already had their water stolen, and they have never honored that agreement, have returned their water. They've never tried to do anything to say, let's make it better. Let's compromise. My whole point is the Ash Meadows agreement was very important. It included Nye County. It included the fire department. It included the original conservancy. The origin this conservancy is not following that agreement. They refused to follow it and say that they don't wanna follow it. So now us as a community, we are being forced into well, now let's bring this application. Let's encompass our properties, which you know, miss Strickland, that that would cloud every title within that area, especially deals that are already in escrow, which we have several of them now. How are we gonna do that to a community? In other words, we can't just say solar's the big bad wolf. Let's hand over a 10 times expansion to this other company who's already not good stewards of the land and not considering the other community members involved. And let's hand them over an expansion. In other words, they're Thank you, Paul. Thank you, buddy. Your
Voice Fhear it at 5:33:39
time ran out though. Come on down in front, please.
Voice Thear it at 5:33:45
Good afternoon. My name is Allison Pharr, p h a r r. I am with Solar United Neighbors. I'm a community organizer, and, that is also called Sun Nevada. We are a nonprofit. We provide unbiased education regarding solar energy. We're developer neutral, project neutral, nonpartisan, committed to helping Nevada communities develop thoughtful solar policies that balance economic up e economic opportunity and local priorities. I live in Las Vegas. I'm regularly here in meeting with people locally, and I have enormous respect for the people and the land of Nye County. As you consider these updates to the solar ordinance, I'd like to encourage you to include a process that incentivizes developers of solar farms to negotiate community benefit agreements or a similar legal mechanism with the town closest to that project, something similar to what Misha Allen said earlier today. You likely are aware that beginning this next year, Nye County will be receiving a new source of annual revenue from solar projects located on BLM land through the federal new federal solar revenue sharing program. That is a significant benefit for the county. I also ask you to think about the towns that host these projects. They experience the greatest day to day impacts during during construction. They're and they're the best position to identify investments that would leave a lasting positive legacy. Community benefit agreements give these communities a seat at the table. Rather than prescribing a one size fits all solution, they allow developers and local leaders to work together on investments that reflect local priorities, whether that's infrastructure and services improvements, workforce training, or annual community funding. These agreements also are good for are good for business. Projects that are good neighbors build trust trust, face less local opposition, and are more likely to succeed over the long term. My request today is simple. As you revisit this ordinance, please consider creating a pathway that encourages meaningful agreements between the developers and the communities that host these projects. Sun Nevada is happy to serve as a resource to provide unbiased research, sharing examples from other jurisdictions, and helping identify best practices and resources for negotiating and enforcing CBAs. I emailed more details about both CBAs and the federal solar revenue sharing. I also have a hard copy here with me today if you'd like that. And I want to thank you for listening and for your service to Nye County. Thank you very much. If you want, you can leave it with Zena.
Voice Fhear it at 5:36:44
She'll give it to us. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Khear it at 5:36:50
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Uhear it at 5:36:57
Yeah. This is Mark Dalton, m a r k d a l t o n. I just want to thank you for taking my call, and I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you today, commissioners. I hope that you're listening to everybody that's come out and raise their concerns about this your Item 10 on this or excuse me, Item eight on this agenda. I think that you've listened to everyone's major concerns about this in the negative that this is the proverbial camel's nose under the tent. This is this is how it starts, and I think this is where where we are now. And I think this is what this community is fearing is where this will lead if we start making these changes to our laws and these county bills and these just without making making them known. And we've had enough public comment on these things. I think that you've heard plenty from everybody. We can tell by everybody sitting here on the on the board that you guys are pretty tired of hearing about this. And I hope that you will listen to the public comment that has come your way and do the will of the people. Thank you for your for your time. Thank you, sir. Come on down, please.
Voice Vhear it at 5:38:48
Carolyn Allen, c a r o l y n a l l e n. I'm the town board chair for Tamar Ghost Valley. Thank you, commissioners, for hearing everybody out. First of all, as far as this the amendments go, I think it would be extremely dangerous to not if we if we table it, it would work out better because for the PRPD, it's a dangerous thing. But speaking for District 1 and Amargosa Valley, I support the recommendation the the the recommended changes to the ordinance to that provide clarity to questions that have come up through negotiations and working with these projects. About three and a half years ago, commissioner Jabbour and Carbone drafted legislation that, passed record requiring any projects in towns affected to come before the town boards and discuss and deliberate the projects before going to the county. We engaged with these developers, BLM, local citizens, and often speaking one on one with neighbors impacted even before the county would had been seen. This was also during the moratorium. Amargosa recognized with 15 solar project at that time, now 17, on BLM land, I want to make sure we learned what exactly was coming at us as we sat at the table because if you don't if you know you're on the menu, you're definitely dinner, so you wanna be sitting at the table. It has worked out for us keeping open communications and open between the parties, the county, all of us. And sometimes the towns know before the county does. And so the negotiations have been good, engaged, for example, the Silver Star project, which is a good pilot program for this, what we were talking about. It started out at 6,300 acres. This was before the auction. This was before anybody was interested in it, and we said this isn't gonna work. We negotiated it down to 3,000 acres. I met with all the people that would be impacted directly, and they signed off on it, and then we moved forward. And it was so much it was with the BLM. They ring with renegotiation, they had to re advertise the, auction. And so so we made progress progress. And so we've got a lot of, relationships with these people, and it's open, and we call them out when we see the need. But I think for the PRPD, these are very dangerous changes. It is the camel snows under the tent. And with the the rest of District 1, we're all we're almost all BLM land. And when with the average administration making the changes that they did, when they stopped everything, they came after our private property. And now all of our agricultural land is gonna be ate up with solar. So we're ground zero. There's not a lot we can do, but you can make some changes to this ordinance for the rest of the county. Thank you.
Voice Fhear it at 5:42:10
Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Khear it at 5:42:13
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ghear it at 5:42:21
Hello, commissioners. Bruce Shots. Thank you for taking my call. You guys dropped me three times, and I I don't know why You get that figured out. So Starting item eight.
Voice Fhear it at 5:42:36
Hello? We're having a real hard time hearing you, Bruce. Hello? Can you hear me? Could you we're we can't hear you. Can hear me? Barely. Come on down, Tony. We'll come back to Bruce.
Voice Whear it at 5:42:54
Tony Hoverman, h o v e r m a n. So that young lady that was just up here, Allison, is that your name? Do you want a solar field in your backyard? How would you like to have a an extra extremely hot heat sort heat source in your backyard? How would you like Share. Your water. Why are we letting Why are you talking? Comment or attack an audio or a group or make I know. I just asked her if she'd like it in her backyard. I don't want it in my backyard. I don't want the water being used to keep those solar panels clean. I don't want the solar panels that need to be replaced after a while. Where are they gonna end up? In our landfill? We don't have the water. So I just wanted to ask her if she'd like if this was going in her backyard, how she would like it. We don't have the water. The water's the basin is not filling up because we haven't had the rain. And everybody seems to be forgetting that because if everybody recognized that, we wouldn't be talking about many waste. We wouldn't talk be talking about solar farms, and we wouldn't be talking about a data center. I moved out here because I liked it out here. It was nice. There were spaces. There was land. The sky was blue.
Voice Ihear it at 5:44:15
And where I came from, the sky was rarely ever blue,
Voice Whear it at 5:44:18
and we have water. So now if these things things three things come into this town, Pahrump is gonna turn into a ghost town and just a big valley dump. And I don't think that's fair to the people that live here. I don't think that's fair to the people that retired here. I don't think that's fair to the people that can't can't just sell in and and get up and leave. And these these guys back here, they've been watching with smirks on their faces because I've been watching the looks that these these gentlemen in the back have been making. I just don't think it's fair. We don't have the water. It hasn't rained that much the last three years. But everybody in this room seems to be be forgetting that. And and and and this this number eight, why don't you just open up the door to the henhouse and let the let the wolves in? Because once it's gone, no amount of no amount of money can put Humpty Dumpty back together again. It's real simple. You pass this, the whole town's gone. And I don't want my town to be gone. I don't want my part of ruined. And so there's nothing that miss Allison can say or anybody can say that. Oh, it's gonna be good for us. Because I'm betting a million bucks. She wouldn't want this in her backyard. Thank you.
Voice Fhear it at 5:45:51
Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody else, please?
Voice Khear it at 5:45:55
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ghear it at 5:46:02
Oh, can you hear me okay?
Voice Fhear it at 5:46:05
Barely again, Bruce.
Voice Chear it at 5:46:08
We can't something's wrong. Something's wrong with your phone.
Voice Khear it at 5:46:14
Alright. Sam, do we have anybody else, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Xhear it at 5:46:23
Good afternoon, commissioners. This is Amber Bellador. I spoke with you earlier. Can you regards to the Amargosa Spell your last name, please. Oh, it's fine. That's okay. Yes, sir. V e l a d o r, Amargosa. Thank you. So I called and spoke with you thank you, sir. I called and I spoke with you earlier in regards to the Amargosa Conservancy, but, unfortunately, I wasn't able to provide any documents over, you know, my computer here. But I went ahead and I texted them to you as proof that the Amagosa Conservancy did accept a $120,000 donation from a solar company. The solar company has granted the documents I texted you. Miss Strickland, thank you so very much for responding to my text and saying thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm sorry. Can you hear me? Yes,
Voice Xhear it at 5:47:20
Okay. And I just wanted to clarify that because apparently, someone there, in the panel, some officials said something about, there not being such a donation. Miss Annette Annette Quintus was right there. She was able to hear it, and she told the individual who knows to do it. Told me. I think it was I think it was mister Coonsy who said it wasn't true, and then she said yesterday, A $120,000 was accepted by the Amargosa Conservancy via solar project. And it just concerns me that that I was rebuttled like that, which is very similar to how I was rebuttal at the the Amagosa Town Hall where they didn't wanna hear what I had to say. Thank you. Thank you so very much. Have a beautiful afternoon.
Voice Fhear it at 5:48:16
Thank you. The afternoon is gone. Sam, do we have anything else or anyone else?
Voice Khear it at 5:48:23
Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ghear it at 5:48:28
Okay. Commissioners, can you hear me okay now? Much better. Very good. Awesome. Alright. I'm seeing an opposition item made. The people in Nye County have spoken. They're not asking for fewer protections over their land and their water or their communities. They're asking for more transparency, more accountability, more cost of government. These amendments do not exist in a vacuum. They come as this county faces growing proposals for utility scale solar, transmission corridors, and data center infrastructure. Projects that will affect our water, our property, our rural character, and the future of our children that our children will inherit. Before changing development standards, ask a simple question, who benefits? Is it the families who live here or the corporations who seek to build here? Government was instituted for the protection, security, and benefit of the people, not to remove safeguards of protected people from government or from powerful private interests. Speaking of private interests, I want all of you to ask all these people, all these developers with these data centers and everything, do they have anything to do with collecting information on the people? And I expect that to be a question that gets asked on every single one. The declaration of independence reminds us that government derives their just powers from the consent of the governed, and we do not consent to surveil technology.
Voice Chear it at 5:50:02
What does that happen to be? Solar.
Voice Ghear it at 5:50:05
Solar. Power that inherit the people. If people are telling you these changes move too fast, reduce accountability, or make it easier to approve projects that permanently alter our county, then your duty is to listen. Authority proceeds action. Show the constitutional statutory authority for every reduction in public protection. Explain why applicant safeguards are being removed. Explain why high restriction setback standards and approval procedures should change when the public is asking for greater, not lesser oversight. Do not trade the future of Nye County for administrative convenience. Do not make it easier for massive energy or data projects to move forward unless people clearly understand the consequences that have given informed consent. Land, the water, and the liberties of the people are not commodities. They are public trust. I urge you to reject these amendments in return with proposals that place the rights and welfare of the people first for the will of the people and the whole of the good.
Voice Fhear it at 5:51:07
Thank you. J o h n s o n. Sam, anybody else, please? Serena, anything for us? Feel free to say no.
Voice Bhear it at 5:51:20
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Hhear it at 5:51:26
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. Yes. Am I free to speak?
Voice Uhear it at 5:51:34
Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that clicking.
Voice Hhear it at 5:51:38
But once again, I wanna reflect on your constitutional oath because I don't understand how why it's so hard.
Voice Yhear it at 5:51:47
to go over subject matter jurisdiction that can never be waived? You know? It's all Bad lands when you're rezoning with undelegated authority. I don't know if y'all have ever been in Vegas and hit that free wood in a blind spot back in the Badlands Golf Course was going on, but that was a pretty penny when you rezoned it like that. And I just don't understand. You know, you ignore the people. You've been ignoring me for the last six years when it comes to due process. All of this has been happening in secret. Most of our problem is one or two commissioners getting together with a county manager and a DA, and they do this without anybody. They don't do it in the public. You know, this is just the tip of the iceberg. We're seeing the shavings. You know? We're looking for accountability and responsibility. How hard is it? You got paid to do a job. That's to protect protect defense. No. It's not about decorating an uncontested draw. It's about restraining it. Restrain it. Did any of y'all restrain Captain Berkowitz, the DA, the judges, the l a the l ALJ's number one catalog. These children. Y'all are weak. This is so much This is not Jermaine to item. This is not Jermaine to the item. Jermaine. Jermaine. Jermaine. You are not You cut him off. Make your point of order through the chair. I Thank
Voice Zhear it at 5:53:20
you. Is there anyone else?
Voice Zhear it at 5:53:25
Cherry. Closing that out. Commissioners, where the hell are we?
Voice B2hear it at 5:53:33
Can I can I address a couple of things real quick? So a lot of the comments I heard, this is acting like we don't already have an ordinance and a permanent process and and that you could go through right now. We've had a couple applicants come through starting that process, which did identify some challenges in the draft that was adopted, the ordinance that was adopted. So that is what a lot of this does. The zoning categories were kind of irrelevant because it requires an SUP. That's your approval process. That's your dictation. Having zoning categories within the ordinance kind of gives a little bit of a buy right, you know, approval to it even though it still requires the SUP. The SUP is what approves its location. The SUP is where you put the safeguards that have to do with its geographical location. There's different circumstances throughout the whole entire county, which some of the stuff that was within this ordinance created a challenge for. Everything that that what what works here in Pahrump doesn't work everywhere else. What works out in the middle of BFE won't work in Burrup. I mean, that's what a lot of this is trying to address. But, again, you know, it's not that you're now approving solar to go in here. That's already happened. But there's an approval process. There's safeguards. That's what this ordinance does. And I just wanted to remind everybody of that. And I thank you for that. However,
Voice C2hear it at 5:55:20
I I love that word because it changes the whole world. But I would like to see this thing with the changes that Celeste had to made with the red proper red in here so I'm sure that I've caught all the changes because I don't know if I have or not. And I don't know if I agree with them until I see them all.
Voice B2hear it at 5:55:41
And that's that's where I'm confused because I'm looking at a copy right now that's got blue and red all over the place in it. It's further down in the backup. So I don't know across the house. That's just the copy red. The the paper copies didn't get copied with the color. Is that what you're saying? Sure. Oh, okay.
Voice C2hear it at 5:56:02
I don't look at the screen because I can't write on the screen. I write on this and make my notes here so I can bring them here. You know that. Well, I We don't have it. Deborah doesn't have it. I don't have it. And the ones that's less brought in here, I got lost in the discussion. Sorry. But you can't bring stuff like that to the meeting and expect me me especially to like it. Done with my rant. Thanks,
Voice Zhear it at 5:56:27
John. Go ahead, commissioner.
Voice A2hear it at 5:56:31
Well, I'm I had a problem with the the Beatty some of the Beatty stuff, and I turned to commissioner from the district and said, well, what do you think? And he was in agreeance that there the insert, I think, would that would work is the Beatty water and sanitation insert for, $17.10 100. That's definitely all the other safeguards are already in place. They have to go in front of the boards. There is a letter has to be provided. So they were basically re reiterating whatever in what is already in the body of this document, commissioner Koning. That's the one thing that I heard. I don't know what the rest of you heard, but that's where I was at with the Beatty inserts.
Voice D2hear it at 5:57:15
Especially within everybody's boundaries
Voice D2hear it at 5:57:19
Of their jurisdiction.
Voice C2hear it at 5:57:25
There you go. I personally would rather see it come back with all the changes instead of having to vote no. Is is that your motion, commissioner? I can make it into a motion. Yes. Make a motion that we bring that we bring this back at the next meeting with all of the changes highlighted in red and the changes that been specified for a town of Beatty and any others that were brought up today incorporated in the one I will see.
Voice B2hear it at 5:57:55
So would you rather just continue the item then? Yeah. That what you're saying? And get the proper printed Yes. Back up in your binder. Right. Gotcha.
Voice D2hear it at 5:58:11
So are you okay with the second on the motion, manager, rather than the continuation? Yeah. I misunderstood.
Voice B2hear it at 5:58:19
I didn't realize I didn't understand why we kept saying the changes identified, but I didn't realize it's on the paper copies. So I apologize for that. So I I think They are identified here, but it's
Voice C2hear it at 5:58:32
underlined. And if just just a few words, I mean, you can't find them. It's very difficult. What was the motion? And maybe I'm just too old. The
Voice B2hear it at 5:58:42
motion would just be to continue the item to whenever pick a date With cleanup. With the added Beatty recommendations in in the text and then the you know, put into the draft and represent.
Voice Zhear it at 5:59:07
Motion, second. All those in favor? Aye. Did we say a date?
Voice A2hear it at 5:59:12
Would have a date continue in states.
Voice B2hear it at 5:59:15
I say I we can just continue at the next meeting. The next meeting. You sure?
Voice A2hear it at 5:59:26
Okay. Because the effective date was supposed to be August 10, so that changed that to what?
Voice B2hear it at 5:59:33
It's twenty, twenty one days out from that, I think. But we'll have to We can not recommend the new effective date Gotcha. When it comes back.
Voice D2hear it at 5:59:50
Okay. It's been amended. Did you call for the vote? I don't know.
Voice Zhear it at 5:59:56
Vote. Let's call for the vote. Aye. Aye. Aye. Resign. 50. I don't know why we went through all of that if we were just gonna because now we're gonna go through it again. That's right.
Voice D2hear it at 6:00:13
With with a clean version.
Voice B2hear it at 6:00:15
Okay. I'll just take a three hour break next time. 24, please. What? Oh, it's not we're not done?
9. 10:00 a.m. - For Possible Action - Public Hearing, discussion and deliberation on AP-26-7: An Appeal of the Pahrump Regional Planning Commission's decision to deny ETSU-26-1 a 12 month Extension of Time for ZCMP-25-1 a Conforming Zone Change to change 3.77 acres from Village Residential (VR-10) to Neighborhood Commercial (NC), to allow for a New Public Storage Facility to be built at 4061 E. Dandelion St., Assessor's Parcel Number 027-651-15. MM holdings LLC, Konstantin Kuyumdzhiev, and Valentin Zafirov - Property Owners; Top Rank Builders Inc. -Agent/Applicant.
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Item nine, 10AM timed item for possible action, public hearing, discussion and deliberation on AP-twenty six-seven, an appeal of the Pahrump Regional Planning Commission's decision to deny ETSU-twenty six-one, a twelve month extension of time for ZCMP-twenty five-one, a conforming zone change to change 3.77 acres from village residential VR-ten to neighborhood commercial to allow for a new public storage facility to be built at 4061 East Dandelion Street, assessors parcel number 027Dash651Dash15, Holdings LLC, Constantine whatever that is, and Valentin Zafarov, property owners, Top Break Builders Inc agent applicant. Chair?
Voice Bhear it at 3:50:46
Yes. I'm gonna need to recuse myself as I am a public storage facility owner. I did the same thing on 06/17/2025 when it was item number seven. Thank you. I will leave the room.
Voice Chear it at 3:50:58
I don't even think you have to unless you want to, though. Okay. May
Voice Dhear it at 3:51:03
I address No. Meant leave the room. May I address very quickly? I'm just I have a question procedural question. So it's a it's a to affirm the decision. So if nobody votes like, will give nobody votes or everyone walks out like she did. What exactly happens here? I guess I'm just confused. But should it be the other way around to overturn the decision? I'm just confused why we'd write it that way. Does anybody is that typical? Does anybody know? Did anybody write this? I believe Ms. Sandoval's coming down to address this. Oh, okay. Thank you. I'm sorry.
Voice Ehear it at 3:51:36
Celeste Sandoval, s a n d o v a l, assistant planning director. So our recommendation is to affirm the denial of the RPC's decision. So it's denied.
Voice Dhear it at 3:51:46
And so if we do nothing, then what happens? Like, let's say we don't vote. What happens? This passes? It would I'm just confused with the wording. It just is odd. I'm not trying to start something. I just don't understand. It's odd to me.
Voice Fhear it at 3:52:01
No. The way the code is set up is that the Planning Commission decision can be appealed. Right. If this board does not overturn the appeal, then the decision of the Planning Commission would stand.
Voice Dhear it at 3:52:13
So recommendation so it's not to oh, you're recommending to affirm the decision, not to okay. So it's so the the motion will be whatever the motion is. It's just you understand what I'm saying. It's just weird for an appellate board to be doing it that way. Thank you very much, mister chairman. I appreciate it.
Voice Chear it at 3:52:29
Thank you for that. Go ahead.
Voice Ghear it at 3:52:33
Thank you, chair. The Trump Regional Planning Commission at its 06/10/2026 meeting heard an application for an extension of time, ETSU twenty six one, requesting additional time to satisfy the conditions of approval associated with ZCMP 25 dash one. The original zone change was approved by the Board of County Commissioners on 06/17/2025, subject to conditions including the requirement that the applicant submit and receive approval of a category one site development plan within twelve months of approval by 06/17/2026. The applicant requested an extension due to unforeseen circumstances affecting the original project timeline, including changes in property ownership, changes to the design team, and needed additional time to complete the review and approval process. The Trump Regional Planning Commission, after considering all testimony facts and evidence submitted pertaining to this matter, voted four to one to deny the application. The applicant has appealed the decision to this board. We recommend to affirm the decision of the RPC and deny AP 26 dash one. In your backup, you'll also see the draft minutes to that meeting as well.
Voice Chear it at 3:53:47
Thank you for that. Let's open public comment and see where we are on that. Sam, do you have anybody on the phone for us, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Hhear it at 3:54:02
That's Borissewich, b o r y s e w I c h. I spoke about this a while ago. If you have an agreement with an individual, then they sell it, their property, and then they sell the designer of the property and everything else. How can you say, oh, okay. Let's use the old information because we have new people. You can't do that in my opinion. I suggest you guys re you reaffirm RPC's decision to deny this. These people are coming out of the blue, and they may have a whole different idea of what's gonna go in there or what's going to be built. So they need to start over from the very beginning, in my opinion. Thank you.
Voice Chear it at 3:54:55
Thank you, Beth. Come on down in front, please. Oh, you'll be fine. Trust me.
Voice Ihear it at 3:55:05
My name is Carmen Nassif, c a r m e n n a s s I f f. This is the third time I'm coming in front of you guys. This is right next to my property, about 50 yards. And what Beth had to say is the thing that concerns me. They're gonna get this. They've never disclosed what they wanna store there. I see them getting this, and then what if they wanna put meta waste there? What if they wanna store the the trucks for the meta waste on that property? It's four acres. They can do it. This is like it's things are being done on this property. I had a petition with over with over forty, fifty homeowners who are against this that is up against their property. So I was so excited last month when you guys denied it for their extension. I'd like to see the denial again. Let them reapply and tell us what they're actually gonna put in there. To me, waiting a year is they're waiting to see if MetaOase is getting possibly or
Voice Jhear it at 3:56:00
data center they could slam in there. So please uphold the planning department. Thank you very much. Sam, do you have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 3:56:16
Well, this is Ron Richardson, r o n r I c h a r d s o n. My property is right to the back of this one. I was against this zoning change in the first place, and I'm in support of denying an extension. The current property owner, I guess it's changed hands since then, is not maintaining the property already without doing any development on it. Some vehicle drove through his perimeter wall at the intersection of Malibu and Dandelion. It's been a hole in the wall and an eyesore for over a year. Inside the property, it's covered in tumbleweeds creating a fire a fire hazard. The the way they're dealing with the current property does not give me much confidence that they're gonna do any better with whatever it is they plan to do. So I would like to see that the board uphold the the denial request or They uphold the the denial that's been issued for an extension.
Voice Chear it at 3:57:15
Thank you, sir. Come on up, Susie.
Voice Lhear it at 3:57:20
Susie Hertz, h e r t z. I was at the RPC meeting where this took place. So as witness to that, the pre reason behind it and the reason behind any of us who were at that meeting were exactly what Beth said, which is why would you give a permit to somebody you don't know, who hasn't submitted any plan, who's just bought the property. You have no idea what is to come. So those people needed to apply again as a new owner with their plans of what they expect to do with their property in a proper way, and, they shouldn't be floating on the prior owners. So that is my opinion, and it was the opinion of the RPC as well. Just want you to know. Thank you. Thank you, Susie. Please don't turn over the denial.
Voice Jhear it at 3:58:14
Thank you. Thank you, Susie. Sam, do you have anybody else for us, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Mhear it at 3:58:23
Matthew Winterhawk for the record. I just like to echo every person that just came up there and said they do not want that facility. Listen to the Nevadans who are gonna derail directly with the consequences. It's pretty simple. You are there to execute on behalf of them. Do exactly as they say. They're the ones right next to the property. Deny it. Make them go through the hoops. Protect your people. Thank you.
Voice Jhear it at 3:58:48
Sam, do you have anybody else for us, please? Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 3:58:57
Hi. Yes. Hello, Hannon, b o h a n n o n. Yeah. In June, that was a very easy call. And I asked that you uphold the decision that we made in June. Thank you.
Voice Jhear it at 3:59:11
Thanks, Tim. Sam, anybody else for us? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Nhear it at 3:59:20
Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. I was at this meeting, and, they didn't come with enough information. They were very vague, and that's why it was denied. So I I would hope that you support the planning commission and deny this. Thank you.
Voice Jhear it at 3:59:41
Thank you, Sam. Anybody else? Mister chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ohear it at 3:59:49
Yeah. My name is Matt Sadler, s a b l e r. Yeah. I think the temperature in the room is pretty obvious. I think you should reaffirm the RPC's decision on this. This is kind of in in my district, some of my neighbors, some some people I know personally who do not want this. And just like most zoning changes on balance, I'm inclined to to deny. This is a no brainer. So please go ahead and and reaffirm that decision. I'm sure you will. Thank you very much.
Voice Jhear it at 4:00:19
Anybody else, Sam? Yes. Sure. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 4:00:26
Yes. Bruce Johnson, j o h n s o n. And under the circumstances of the way things are structured in this particular situation, I'm gonna urge you unite.
Voice Chear it at 4:00:38
Thank you. Thank you, Sam. Anybody else, please? No, chair. Closing public comment, Bruce Jibor. Thank you. Thank you, chair. Miss Sandoval, please.
Voice Phear it at 4:00:50
It's my understand I've heard I've heard, but, it's my understanding that the applicant, was not present at the RPC meeting. That is correct. Is that correct? Okay. So my next question is and thank you for the for reaffirming that. My next question is, if this is denied, will this be a reflection on the applicant for them to start over start the process over? Yes. Excuse me. Excuse me. Please, I'm having dialogue with the assistant planning director to get factual information on this situation before a motion is made and then the vote is taken. I have to go through the process. So, please, I understand it's a different owner. Of course, it's a different owner. So, miss Sandoval, please.
Voice Ehear it at 4:01:53
So if you do affirm our decision, they do have the option under code to appeal your decision to the courts.
Voice Phear it at 4:02:01
Yes. That's on this They can reapply or That's under this process. Right. If we deny and reaffirm plannings planning the Planning Commission's decision to deny, then they have the right to appeal through the fifth judicial court. I understand that. But if they choose as the new owner to start all over again, go through the process from day one as the new owner, new applicant, will this reflect on that application?
Voice Ehear it at 4:02:36
As far as reflect as Will it be a negative on them? No. No. And we want to clarify too that one of the owners is the original owner. He now has two additional owners on the property, but,
Voice Phear it at 4:02:52
this will not reflect negative at all. Okay. Thank you very much, miss Sandoval. Thank you, chair. Thank you. Just one more clarification.
Voice Ahear it at 4:02:59
There would be no waiting period. Correct. Technically, they could go home today, reapply Yes. After.
Voice Phear it at 4:03:08
Thank you. Mister chair. Commissioner Carney. I'd make a motion to affirm the RPC's denial.
Voice Chear it at 4:03:14
Jabbour seconds. We have a motion on the floor and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Or aye. Moskovichai, that carries 40. One. Oh, I'm sorry. 4 with one absent or recused. Abstention. That's it. 11, please.
10. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation regarding the Debt Management Policy Statement and Capital Improvement Plan for the Town of Pahrump for Fiscal Year 2026-2027 pursuant to NRS 350.013.
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Item 10 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the debt management policy statement and capital improvement plan for the Town of Pahrump for fiscal year 2026 and 2027 pursuant to NRS 350.013. Thank you for that. Hello.
Voice Bhear it at 4:05:35
Ms. Fanning. We're ready.
Voice Chear it at 4:05:38
Hello, commissioners. Jennifer Fanning, f a n n I n g. Today, we just have the debt debt management policy statement and the capital improvement plan. You guys have already seen and approved our capital improvement plan. Nothing has changed, and the town of Pahrump has no debt.
Voice Bhear it at 4:05:53
You go. Love that for us. Let's open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Come on up, Mary Anne.
Voice Dhear it at 4:06:11
Did you just whistle? I did.
Voice Ehear it at 4:06:13
I I'm sorry. I laughed. I was like, what are you doing? You can't whistle at her. I think that was his fault. Gone off the rails today. I gotta tell you. Yes. You you're off the rails. Yes. You mean and blush. Yes.
Voice Dhear it at 4:06:26
You threw me. Could we is there any chance that you can combine ten and twenty one?
Voice Bhear it at 4:06:34
DA, can we do that?
Voice Bhear it at 4:06:53
I'm for the I'm waiting for the oh,
Voice Dhear it at 4:06:57
yeah. Sorry. We can, but I well, we'll
Voice Bhear it at 4:07:02
just keep them separate. Make it easy. Alright, Mary Anne. Go ahead. Sorry. Oh, okay.
Voice Dhear it at 4:07:08
The reason that I had stopped for a second was because I wanted to confirm that I heard that Pahrump has no debt, but we have bond debt. Well. Well, that's debt. Correct? 24,000,000? Count And I wanna what? Count I'm having a hard time staying in control here. I want to, recognize the controller for including that, bond information that I had, asked about a couple of meetings back and, clearly says here total general obligation debt, 23,000,000. So that's a debt in my book. I don't know. Debt free? But, anyway, I looked at this capital improvement plan probably closer than ever before after watching the the budget hearings this year. And the format's very easy to follow. I appreciated that. Although I did need a magnifying glass by the time I hit the last column. But I counted up 36 new capital improvement projects. 10 are 10 existing, 11 that are out of cycle, and one newly created room tax line. I'm not I don't know if that's historical in the number. I know the control is new, that might be something she needs to look at and report on later, and I'd appreciate that. But 36 new lines, you know, and only a third are the ex and plus one third are existing. It's ambitious when we're starting off the fiscal year having to pay back a loan to meet the, budget requirement. And I I Chair, I'm sorry. We don't have item number 21 open and you're speaking to that. See, that's why I'm so sorry.
Voice Bhear it at 4:09:14
I was trying to figure
Voice Dhear it at 4:09:16
it out. It's so close. That's why
Voice Ehear it at 4:09:18
we're not Alright. I'll see you. Number 10. So we're talking to miss Fanning. She's in charge of town of prom. They don't have any debt. And nobody wants us done quicker than I do. And that's why the 23,000,000
Voice Dhear it at 4:09:29
Okay. Pat is messing And I'll go back to number 10. The this. Okay? And where am I? On the last page, almost the last capital improvement project is about the fairgrounds. And one of the lines here, the last one says portable restrooms delivered. Are those the ones that we purchased previously? Are those more portable restrooms for a $144,000 and 58,000 cost to install them? Is that new?
Voice Bhear it at 4:10:11
You can go a little longer. I interrupted you. Alright. We have no rules today.
Voice Dhear it at 4:10:19
I'm sorry. Rules for No. I'm just rules for us, not for you. That's how the rules are going today. Alright then. I don't wanna get into '21, but those are the things I noticed. And unless there's an orchard of money trees being planted someplace in Pahrump, this is ambitious in capital improvement projects. That's all I wanna say. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Bhear it at 4:10:52
Trees are in a splash pad. Oh, chair. We're gonna close public comment. Commissioners.
Voice Ehear it at 4:10:58
Chair, I guess we're gonna approve this. Yeah.
Voice Bhear it at 4:11:01
Yeah. Let's see. Hi, Jennifer. Miss Fanning. Miss Fanning. Do you wanna say something else? Just to answer
Voice Chear it at 4:11:08
missus Hollis' questions, there was a lot so last year was my first year with the budget. I didn't know to put things in for out of cycle. I was advised to put those items in there for this year just it's a place saver, kind of just in case. So that's why there is a lot of new on there. Speaking with Jimmy, obviously, he's not here right now, but he did say that a lot of these projects, some of them are ongoing. But as far as the larger expenditures, this is probably gonna be the last year for it. They're gonna kinda try to tighten things up, let the funds build a little bit before we continue on with more. Okay. Thank you.
Voice Ehear it at 4:11:42
Chair, I'd to make a motion to approve the town of prompt debt management policy statement and capital improvement plan. Second.
Voice Bhear it at 4:11:49
We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. That carries five zero. Thank you. 12, please.
11. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation regarding the Debt Management Policy Statement and Capital Improvement Plan for the Town of Beatty for Fiscal Year 2026-2027 pursuant to NRS 350.013.
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Item 11, for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the debt management policy statement and capital improvement plan for the Town of Beatty for fiscal year twenty twenty six-twenty twenty seven pursuant to NRS three five zero point zero one three. Thank you for that. Who's speaking on this? Hello, Zena. Good afternoon, commissioners. So the town of Beatty has no debt, and they have no capital no, capital for the next five years. We are required per NRS to file, this information with DTACS. Thank you for that. Let's open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone for eleven, please? No, chair. Let's close public comment. Commissioners.
Voice Bhear it at 4:04:32
Mister chair. Thank you, Boris. Okay. Oh, ahead. Ahead, commissioner. No. It's your bill. No. Go ahead. I didn't hear Go for it. I wanna I wanna hear you. You guys quit. I wanna hear you support Beatty. I'd like to make Thank you. Make a motion to approve the town of Beatty's fiscal policy statement and capital improvement plan for fiscal year twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven. And congratulate them on not having any debt to more seconds. Thank I wish I was in that sec. We have a motion on the second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Or aye. I'll ask you to try. That's 550.
Voice Ahear it at 4:05:07
Thank you. 10, please.
12. For Possible Action – Discussion and deliberation regarding the Debt Management Policy Statement and Capital Improvement Plan for the Town of Gabbs for Fiscal Year 2026-2027 pursuant to NRS 350.013.
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Item 12 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the debt management policy statement and capital improvement plan for the town of Gaffes for fiscal year 2026 through 2027 pursuant to NRS three five zero point zero one three. Brett, you sound different. Oh, sorry.
Voice Bhear it at 4:12:16
Thank you for that. Alright. Who's go ahead.
Voice Ahear it at 4:12:20
Thank you, commissioner. This is Zina Teich. So we have debt. We have revenue bonds for the town of Gabs that is gonna be paid off by fiscal year twenty nine. And we do have capital expenditures, ongoing capital expenditures for fiscal, this coming fiscal year for $36,000
Voice Bhear it at 4:12:43
Okay. Let's see if we have any public comment on this item, please.
Voice Ahear it at 4:12:51
There's no comment on the phone. Closing public comment. Commissioners.
Voice Bhear it at 4:12:55
Maybe it's your board. Sure. Motion to approve debt management policy statement. Second. Motion, second. All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Oskovichai, thank you. 13, please.
13. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation regarding the Debt Management Policy Statement and Capital Improvement Plan for the Town of Manhattan for Fiscal Year 2026-2027 pursuant to NRS 350.013.
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Item 13 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the debt management policy statement and capital improvement plan for the town of Manhattan for fiscal year twenty twenty six through 2027 pursuant to NRS three five zero point zero one three. Thank you for that. Hello, Zena. Hello.
Voice Bhear it at 4:13:27
So, again, this is a requirement. The town of Manhattan does have revenue bonds that are gonna that need to be paid off all the way through fiscal year fifty three. The capital schedule is also attached, and I have a correction to make on the d tax form pay it's the d tax form page three of seven. We are providing the five year capital plan, which is the question for question four. The answer should be yes.
Voice Chear it at 4:14:05
Got it. Okay.
Voice Ahear it at 4:14:07
Let's see if we have any public comment on this item, please, Sam. Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 4:14:17
My comment was for the previous or Gabs. Never mind. Okay.
Voice Chear it at 4:14:24
Sam, do we have anybody else, please? No, chair. Closed. Thank you. Chair, motion to approve Second. Account of debt management policies as amended. As amended. As amended. Page four of seven. Thank you. Second amended as stated. Amended motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Jubur's aye. That carries 50. Thank you. 14, please, Sam.
14. For Possible Action – Discussion and deliberation regarding the Debt Management Policy Statement and Capital Improvement Plan for the Pahrump Pool District for Fiscal Year 2026-2027 pursuant to NRS 350.013.
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Item 14 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the debt management policy statement and capital improvement plan for the Pahrump Pool District for fiscal year 2026 through 2027 pursuant to NRS three five zero point zero one three.
Voice Bhear it at 4:15:06
Thank you for that. Hello again, commissioners. Hello. Jennifer Fanning, town of finance manager. Again, it's the same CIP that you guys already have approved for the swimming pool. Debt management policy and the and the town pool has no debt. Thank you for that. Let's open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. Matthew Weirhoch for the record. I just like to say that I would be happy when someone calls in and would like to speak on behalf of something and give a comment and or guidance that lives in that direct area. But, you know, that's all. Thank you. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Okay. We're gonna close public comment. And commissioners? Motion to approve as written. Two more seconds. Motion second. All votes in favor. Aye. Aye. Oscar, that carries 50. Thank you. Let's stick with the zena. 21, please.
15. 1 For Possible Action - Approval of the Elected Official Collection Report regarding fees collected from elected county departments for services rendered by or provided to county citizens. 15.2 For Possible Action - Approval to renew cannabis licenses for Fiscal Year 2027 pursuant to Nye County Code 5.32.080(A). 15.3 For Possible Action - Final progress report provided by Kat Galli with Tonopah Development Corporation DBA Tonopah Main Street, regarding program results pursuant to the Nye County ARPA Recovery Plan and Policy: Economic Impacts for Tourism. 15.4 For Possible Action - Approval to: a. Accept the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Award #26/PCB/07 from the State of Nevada Governor's Office of Economic Development (GOED) in the amount of $75,000.00 for the purpose of procuring engineering services to connect the two wells at the Pahrump Fairgrounds and hire an environmental consultant to update the existing environmental assessment to be used for all future projects at the Fairgrounds. There is no required county match; b. Authorize Nye County staff to expense project related wages to 25414 Pahrump Fairgrounds Room Tax; c. Execute the grant agreement; and d. Fund $75,000.00 from 10340 Grants. 15.5 For Possible Action - Approval to: a. Accept the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Rural and Tribal Assistance (RTA) Pilot Program grant in the amount of $1,589,737.00 to support final design and pre-construction activities for the Wilson Road and East Street Improvements Design Project. There is no county match; b. Execute the Agreement via DocuSign; and c. Fund $1,589,737.00 from 10340 Grants. 15.6 For Possible Action - Approval to: a. Accept the Nevada Governor's Office of Economic Development (GOED) Amendment #3 to extend grant #23/PF/06 expiration date to September 30, 2026, for the Tonopah Airport Fueling Station funded through the Fiscal Year 2023 Community Development Block Grant (CDBG). There is no change to the funding; and b. Execute the amendment.
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Item 15, consent agenda items. These are items that staff recommends for approval. The board reserves the right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda should issues arise that need to be addressed. Discussion of any item from the consent agenda items that needs review before a decision is made. This is item 15.1, 15.2, 15.3, 15.4, 15.5, 15.6.
Voice Bhear it at 3:01:58
Thank you on that. Let's open public comment on any of these items, please, Sam.
Voice Chear it at 3:02:13
Hi, Mary Anne. Go ahead, please. Thank you. Mary Anne Hollis, h o l l I s. You caught me off guard. You didn't get me give me enough time to pull all my backup comments. However, let me talk about 15.2 and 15.4. Should I do one at obviously, one at a time? I'll do that one. Okay. 15.2. I'm looking at the number of cannabis licenses, 22. The last time that I knew that there was a number to be acceptable was 14. And then someone came forward, I think it was Green Life Productions that wanted up to four of them. So I thought, what else do we have 22 of here in this town? Gas stations, fast food, whatever. And then I thought I looked at some of the license types and its medical production, and I thought, what do we have for medical here besides this? Barely anything. 22 licenses, we have 24 beds in our hospital. That's all I'm comparing that on. So I don't know what the actual number is allowed now. Is it up to 22? And as far as the 15.4, I'm not gonna have enough time. The Lombardo's office, GoEd, set aside $75,000 to assist with an update to the environmental review for the Pahrump Fairgrounds, which will include tying in the two wells. Now the last time that I was able to track down an environments environmental study was 2012. So and that would came in at a lot of money, like $700,000 in 2012. So I don't know the extent of this study. Is it just in that area? Or is it from where that first study ended and it will continue all the way over? And I I I just think that 75,000, of course, is needed, but we'll soon be hearing about the additional cost for this. I'm sure.
Voice Bhear it at 3:04:38
Thank you. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 3:04:42
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 3:04:49
That's Boris Savitch, b o r y s c w I c h. This is regarding 15.4. First of all, I would like Nye County to ensure that any kind of documentation or anything that's written up about the fairgrounds indicate Pahrump Fairgrounds because this land does not belong to Nye County. It belongs to the town of Parum. And I just wanna make sure that it's perfectly clear because there's documentation saying that Nye County is requesting funds for the fairgrounds. Mhmm. I wouldn't know why Nye County would do that. It would be Parum. Why are the Nye County staff authorized to expense project related wages to Pahrump Fairgrounds room tax? What explicit project related wages go to $2.05 $4.01 4? How much will be billed and where does these billing show up on the town of Pahrump's financial statement? Nye County was issued 75,000 for the purpose of procuring engineering services to connect the two wells at the Perron's Fairgrounds. I just heard something weird is that there was going to be one well at one end and one well at the other, include a long ass pipe out there to connect the two of them. And I just don't understand that. And the prompt there and hire environmental consultants to date to update the existing environmental assessment to be used for all future projects at the fairground. Is 75,000 gonna be enough for that? Because those environmental studies, you know, are really expensive. Engineers, you know, I worked with a bunch of engineers, and they say that their stuff don't stink, and that's why they charge so much. But, anyway, had there been a hearing from the town for Nye County to provide funds at the fairground? Is it even authorized in any of the documentation? The town of Prump should be requesting funds for its own project at the fairground belonging to the town and not the county. So it's just kinda weird that, you know, some of the money from Nye County is is flowing over to the fairgrounds, and it doesn't make sense why that's happening. I mean, all the funds should be requested from the town of Perump. All core expenditure could go back to the town of Perump. And then I'd like to know who's handling in that other than you commissioners. I mean, if there's some manager that we don't know about that's in the background that's handling that, Is Brett doing that? That could be because he's our town manager. So anyway, those are just some of my questions and hopefully I can get an answer somehow. Thanks.
Voice Dhear it at 3:07:37
Thank you, Beth. Sam, do we have anybody else, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 3:07:48
Hi. My name is Ron Richardson, r I c h a r d s o n. I don't have an agenda, so I don't know the agenda item, but I'm calling in with respect to ETSUDash26Dash1. It's an appeal to
Voice Bhear it at 3:08:06
I I'm sorry, sir. It's not this one. I'm trying to figure out which one it is for you. Anybody is it 8? It's it's the next item, sir. Anybody else, Sam?
Voice Dhear it at 3:08:20
No, chair. But we did get a request from the treasurer to hear her item while we have her before people start calling in about their tax bills.
Voice Bhear it at 3:08:27
Okay. I thought we just heard I thought we just did that. Item 20. Oh, fuck god. Okay. Let's well, first of all, closing closing public comment.
Voice Ghear it at 3:08:38
May I comment to something? Yes. So, as far as fifteen point two and your concerns, there are nine businesses with several licenses. So that may help this question of why we have so many licenses. Yep. They are doing business with nine businesses, and maybe they have cultivation and they have Production. Production. So just to clarify that. As far as the CBDG and the question from Beth, Nye County has been putting in for CBDG this whole entire time. Go ahead is always given the money directly from the governor to Nye County through our different townships. So I don't understand that question from Beth either. So thank you very much, chair. Thank you. I'm ready for a motion. Motion to approve. Second.
Voice Bhear it at 3:09:25
Motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Oscar Chai, that carries five zero. Thank you. 20, please. And then we're doing eight. Okay. Item 20, and we're going to lunch. I did
Voice Ahear it at 3:09:42
I had to make the solar item.
16. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation to: a. Approve, amend and approve, or reject an Interlocal Contract between Nye County and the Nevada Secretary of State in the amount of $25,000 to provide KNOWink services for a Voter Registration Database, Elections Management System, and associated equipment; b. Fund from 10101 General; and c. Execute the agreement.
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Item 16, for possible action, discussion and deliberation to a, approve, amend, and approve, or reject an interlocal contract between Nye County and the Nevada Secretary of State in the amount of $25,000 to provide no ink services for a voter registration database, elections management system, and associated equipment, b, fund from one zero one zero one general, and c, execute the agreement.
Voice Bhear it at 4:39:48
Thank you for that. Hello, Corey.
Voice Chear it at 4:39:51
Hello, commissioner. How are you? Yeah. I'm just here if you have any questions. This is the same exact contract that we had signed by Bruce a while ago. We were not charged because the state did not do their part of it. It was supposed to be $49,000.49 and change. This is mandated that we go to the top down. We weren't charged, but then Clark County came in, which then brought our charge, our portion of the whole thing to 25,000 instead of 49,000 a year. So I'm just asking that we get this contract. I did wanna let you know I the DA did get back to me and he has no problems with it either. So if you have any questions.
Voice Bhear it at 4:40:32
Well, he's sitting right next to you. If he had an issue, he would have told you.
Voice Chear it at 4:40:36
Well, maybe. I don't know. Depends
Voice Bhear it at 4:40:40
on his mood. Right. All right. Let's see if we have any public comment on this item, Sam, please. Now, Closing it up. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve to fund from 10/2001
Voice Chear it at 4:40:53
to execute the agreement.
Voice Bhear it at 4:40:55
Four seconds. Motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you very much, aye. That carries five-zero. 18, please. Oh, sorry. Comfort break. Ten minutes, 437.
Voice Bhear it at 4:41:45
That's born ready. Alright. Where are we at? I'm gonna figure it out. 18. 18 it is. Man has spoken. And be careful because, we're built about to be recorded by the recorder.
17. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation regarding the quarterly report from the Public Administrator on deceased person cases that are open, closed, pending, NCPA Creditor Claims, non-cases or cases that have been turned over to family.
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All right. 17 for possible action. Discussion and deliberation regarding the quarterly report from the public administrator on deceased person cases that are open, closed, pending NCPA creditor claims, non cases or cases that have been turned over to family.
Voice Bhear it at 4:47:02
Thank you for that. Do we have Ginger or anybody on the phone, or do we need anybody, or what do you guys wanna do? We have Ginger on the phone. Okay. Hello, Ginger, and welcome. Ginger Simpson.
Voice Chear it at 4:47:15
You enjoying the heat? Loving it. Does anybody have any questions?
Voice Bhear it at 4:47:22
S I m p s o n for the record. Do you guys got anything for Ginger?
Voice Dhear it at 4:47:27
I just noticed that Bill Stremel is on this list as deceased. He's been, yeah, he's been very active in our community. How do I know him? And you know he's come and spoke to us many, many times. He's emailed me, you, all of us, and I just happened to flip over to that. And so, my condolences to all the families that have lost loved ones and and, what they are faced with to try to get through to the system. Thank you, chair. Thank you. Commissioner Jabbour, you got anything?
Voice Bhear it at 4:47:59
That sucks. Commissioners, anybody got anything for Ginger? No? Okay. Let's if you'll do if you'll stand by, Ginger, we're to see if we have any public comment. Yes. Thank you. Sam, do we got anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ehear it at 4:48:28
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Fhear it at 4:48:35
Hi. Tim Bohannon, d o h a n n n n n. And definite condolences for those families and and impacted on the list here. I did have a couple of general questions for deliberation discussion, what I would be curious of knowing where there's a situation where there's cold cases. What's the action on cold cases? Does it sit there? Does it delay? What happens? You know, that that's something of of concern or interest. And then no case or turnedovers seem very simple. You know, it's over the family, they have it. But whenever it's cold, you know, it almost sounds like in in CIS or one of the drama shows, if you will. What happens with that?
Voice Bhear it at 4:49:27
And where can I find that information? Thank you. Thank you, Tim. You can email Ginger, and I'm sure she would be happy to help you out. Come on up,
Voice Chear it at 4:49:36
Susie. I can't answer that question very quickly. Typically, we don't. Going into specifics on a case. A lot of those that are you'll notice there's one from 2013. That is because nothing had been done by his administrator until she passed away in 2025, and I inherited the case from her through her not doing anything for thirteen years.
Voice Bhear it at 4:50:01
Gotcha. Cool. Thank you for that explanation. Susie.
Voice Ghear it at 4:50:07
Susie Hertz, h e r t z. Just a comment, it would be nice for a courtesy for those in the audience who don't have backup to maybe get when this report is happening right now, some general information, some general data numbers of people, whatever it is that's relevant that's talking about open cases, troubled cases, etcetera. Just saying, it would be nice to say, at least get a a number count on what's been handled during this period of time. Otherwise, everybody's sitting in the audience saying, what are you talking about? Okay.
Voice Bhear it at 4:50:46
Thank you. Thank you. I didn't realize that. Sam, anybody else, please? No, chair. Alright. We're closing public comment. Thank you, Ginger. If commissioners have nothing we have to vote on this? No. Okay. Thank you very much, Ginger.
Voice Ahear it at 4:51:01
Just real quick on that backup Yeah. Question. There is binders over here that have all the backup for every item on the agenda that are free for anybody to browse through. So is the backup not online? That It's also online, but I'm saying if they're here in the audience, like Oh, I gotcha. Okay. They can't take it. Gotcha. They can't take it home, but Right. They can go over there and look at it. I think miss Susie is asking us to have a report that says how many cases got closed,
Voice Bhear it at 4:51:30
what's still open, and I don't know about that. Alright. Thank you on that. Let's move on to number eight, please. Then you know what happens after that, right? Moment, we're out.
18. For Possible Action - Presentation of projected expenditures of money in the Recorder's Technology Fund to be used in the 2026-2027 fiscal year. (5-minute time limit)
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Item 18 for possible action, presentation of projected expenditures of money in the Recorder's Technology Fund to be used in the twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven fiscal year.
Voice Bhear it at 4:42:22
Shouldn't it I think we should con continue this. And the quicker you are, the more I'll like you. I'll do as soon My
Voice Chear it at 4:42:29
name is Dawn Sliger, s l I g a r. I'm chief deputy recorder. I'm here on behalf of Deborah Beatty, the Nye County recorder. We are required by NRS two forty seven dot 3 zero six to report annually how we are utilizing our technology fund. And so the two items that we need to report on is revenue and expenditures. We have an approximate revenue of 115,000 based on prior years, and our expenditures for this year is approximately 150,000. We plan on using it for restoration projects, office equipment, and other things to be determined.
Voice Bhear it at 4:43:06
That's my complete report. That is super fast. I love that. Side question for Sam. When these are just presentations, why do they say do they say for possible action?
Voice Dhear it at 4:43:22
I think it's just habit to edit to every item, but you don't need to take action on this. Thank you for your report.
Voice Bhear it at 4:43:28
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, Dawn. I'm glad we were able to push you, forward quickly today. We we we got you right up there, didn't we? Yep. I'm obligated to try to it about you. I'm gonna wait for Brian because I don't I wanna be sure before we move on. Brian. Brian, do we need to do No motion, no discussion No. But they say four possible action. Do I have to do public comment or no?
Voice Bhear it at 4:44:04
18. We didn't do action. You came up to have a super quick report. It it is on the agenda. So I'm gonna open public comment just to be careful. But from now on, if there are presentations, feel free to call them presentation only.
Voice Dhear it at 4:44:18
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Mister chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. Mhmm.
Voice Fhear it at 4:44:27
Matthew Winterhawk for the record. And I honestly, it it wouldn't be if it didn't say technology fund that I would have something to say, but it it's kind of a hurdle for citizens to be able to get documentation quickly without having an online website. So I would love that the direction inside that office just, you know, as a citizen outside, that it becomes digitized, we can get to these records without having to go through a bunch of requests and payments and lost paperwork and and then the request not being approved and getting lost in translation. It'd be a lot better be a lot better if we get to the pop the actual paperwork. So thank you. Hey.
Voice Bhear it at 4:45:03
Winter Winterhawk for the record, w I n t e r h a w k. Thank you so much for spelling for him. What now?
Voice Dhear it at 4:45:13
Sam, do we have anybody, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Dhear it at 4:45:29
I'll move to the next one. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ghear it at 4:45:37
Oh, hello. This is Paul Lemus, l e m u s. Usually, when it's an agenda item like that for other boards that I happen to sit on, you don't necessarily have to approve, but you can accept the report. And that's usually what they mean when it has an approval on there. Just to either accept or deny that report that the recorder's office had made there. That was just a suggestion to throw in, but thank you. Thank you, sir. Yes,
Voice Dhear it at 4:46:07
sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Bhear it at 4:46:11
I swear to God.
Voice Ehear it at 4:46:13
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. Is my volume on Yes. I just wanted to point out the obvious. It's kinda hard to have a quickie when we have to wait for Brian to watch it. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:46:28
What? Else? Sam, do you have anyone else, please? No chair. Closing. That's it. That's it. Alright. We're done with that. We're done. Seventeen, please.
Voice Ahear it at 4:46:41
Well, how do I follow that one?
19. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation to: a. Determine Nye County Sheriff's Office K9 Charlie, a patrol and narcotics detection dog, is no longer required for public use; b. Surplus K9 Charlie due to medical issues; c. Determine it is in the best interest of Nye County to transfer ownership and medical responsibility of K9 Charlie to Deputy Richard Rumker pursuant to NRS 332.185; and d. Delegate one-time authority to Sheriff Joe McGill to execute the agreement between the Nye County Sheriff's Office and Deputy Richard Rumker for the transfer of ownership of K9 Charlie.
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Item 19 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to a, determine Nye County Sheriff's Office K-nine Charlie, a patrol and narcotics detection dog, is no longer required for public use B, surplus K9 Charlie due to medical issues. C, determined it is in the best interest of Nye County to transfer ownership and medical responsibility of K9 Charlie to Deputy Richard Rumker pursuant to NRS three three two point one eight five, and de delegate one time authority to sheriff Joe McGill to execute the agreement between the Nye County Sheriff's Office and deputy Richard Brumker for the transfer of ownership of k nine Charlie. Thank you for that, sheriff. What was the dog's name again? Charlie. Briefly
Voice Bhear it at 3:47:52
before I Charlie. Oh, it's Charlie. Before I open up your comment.
Voice Chear it at 3:47:57
I'll I'll be quick. So Charlie's getting old, aren't we all? And, he's having some poor health. He's got some joint issues. It's time for him to retire. He has served this county proudly for the last, I believe, seven years. Wow. And so he has been living with deputy Rumker since he came to our department. So obviously, deputy Rumker would like to keep him and cuddle him and treat him like a dog instead of treating him like an employee. So that's our our hope. Cool. Alright. Let's open public real quick. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 3:48:35
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. My nephew was a canine handler here in and a good friend of mine also was a canine handler in Perum, and they get very attached to one another. And so the I think the only person that should have this great animal, this great hero It is is the deputy. It was I don't wanna mispronounce his name. Let me look at the item again. Sorry. The deputy, Richard Rumker. So I'm in favor of the deputy having this animal as his own.
Voice Bhear it at 3:49:29
Thank you for that. Sam, do we have anybody else, please? No, chair. Alright. We're closing that out. Commissioners,
Voice Dhear it at 3:49:35
let's do it. Motion to approve all
Voice Bhear it at 3:49:38
a, b, c, d as written. Jabbour seconds. Motion, two seconds. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Boscovichai, that carries 50. Thank you. 9, please.
20. For Possible Action - Discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt, or reject Nye County Resolution No. 2027-16: A Resolution Directing the Levy of the Tax Rate Required for Fiscal Year 2026-2027.
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Item 20 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt or reject Nye County resolution number twenty twenty seven dash 16, resolution directing the levy of the tax rate required for fiscal year 2026 and 2027. Thank you for that.
Voice Bhear it at 3:10:08
Chair, I do need to state on the record and request the commission, if they make a motion to adopt this. The resolution number is actually twenty twenty six
Voice Chear it at 3:10:21
Dash six. Dash 12. Oh, 12.
Voice Bhear it at 3:10:25
I see it on the I see it on the next page. Yes. Yeah. Just the just the agenda item. It reached 20. Yes. So the backup is correct. It's just an administrative error. It's 2026Dash12. And we do have the treasurer on the line.
Voice Chear it at 3:10:41
Thank you, Sam. Go ahead, Raelyn.
Voice Dhear it at 3:10:46
Raelyn Powers, POWERS, treasurer for Nye County. Thank you, commissioners, for squeezing me in. The item before you today is the current tax rate for all of the districts throughout Nye County. The overall tax rate has not changed. However, at the direction of our comptroller and the approval of the board of county commissioners, we have removed the prompt museum tax rate of point zero zero three nine, and that has been moved into the Nye County general fund, which is our taxing in entity as c o g e n. There is a tax rate comparison report included in the backup that provides a very clear and concise identification, what the current rate is, what the year before us was at, and where that rate has been moved from. This is also based off of our budget, the approval of department of detoxation, as well as the red book that detox publishes. There's no question. We simply ask that the Board of County Commissioners approve and certify these tax rates, and we're good to go.
Voice Chear it at 3:12:01
Thank you, Raelyn. Let's see if we have any public comment. Let's open up
Voice Bhear it at 3:12:06
public. Do we have anybody? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Dhear it at 3:12:14
Chorus has had to be me, Beth Borysiewicz, b o r y s e w I c h. I just want clear and concise language. There is no tax hike. Right? That's all I wanna know if I'm right or wrong. That's all I want. Thanks.
Voice Ehear it at 3:12:30
Thanks, Beth. Sam, do you have anybody else for us? There's a comparison between last year and this year. They're both exactly the same if you look at the backup.
Voice Bhear it at 3:12:39
There's no further comment on the phone. Closing public comment. Commissioners. Thank you for that comment, Koenig. I'd like to make a motion to adopt Nye County resolution twenty twenty seven dash twelve. Nope. Second. Twenty twenty six dash twelve. Second.
Voice Chear it at 3:12:56
Motion on the second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.
Voice Bhear it at 3:13:13
We need a break.
Voice Chear it at 3:13:14
We need a a
Voice Chear it at 3:13:25
I didn't stutter.
Voice Bhear it at 3:13:42
Thank you, sir. You're fine. Do want me flush? Yeah.
Voice Ahear it at 3:13:50
Me too. I'm ready to get the heck out of here.
22. For Possible Action - Presentation, discussion and deliberation to review and approve, or amend and approve the Nye County Fiscal Year 2026-2027 capital outlay budget amounts for Nye County Capital Projects 10401, Special Capital Projects 10402, and Local Assistance and Tribal Consistency Fund 10340.
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22 for possible action, presentation, discussion, deliberation to review and approve or amend and approve the nine county fiscal year 2026 through 2027 capital outlay budget amounts Fortnite County capital projects, one zero zero four zero one, special capital projects, one zero four zero two, and local assistance in tribal consistency fund, one zero three four zero.
Voice Bhear it at 4:17:15
Thank you for that. Hello? So the first thing I'll talk about is the debt. We have a revenue bond for the jail, which is, the current balance is 14,000,007
Voice Chear it at 4:17:27
on the same page as you, please?
Voice Bhear it at 4:17:30
I have my notes. I'm sorry. Sorry. It's 21 or 20? Page one of the debt policy. It is the third page. Third p
Voice Chear it at 4:17:50
Excuse me, chair. Which '21 or 22? Oh, I'm sorry. 21. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:18:01
Okay. So we have the revenue bond for the jail, $14,000,760. Then we have general obligation, 2,127,000 for the animal shelter. And then we have, general regular debt for Siemens Energy Project for 6,212,000. The Siemens Project is the are the solar panels for the justice court.
Voice Chear it at 4:18:36
And a lot of other stuff Yes. Like new air conditioners. Yes. There's a lot, a lot of stuff we've done throughout the county. Thank you, chair. Thank you.
Voice Dhear it at 4:18:45
Right. Let's go ahead and open public comment
Voice Bhear it at 4:18:48
after Should I talk about capital, what the changes that I'd like to Yes. Ask the board to consider? So when we approved the debt, the capital back in May, it was before we had done a loan from the capital fund of $4,000,000. With the loan, now that we have the loan, we don't have enough money for all of the capital projects. It would create a hardship on the fund. So we need to reevaluate some of the projects that were approved in May.
Voice Chear it at 4:19:28
May we instead, chair, if I might, talk to the comptroller? We will never get all these projects done. So in I mean, not even close. So can we just approve it as written knowing perfectly well that we will not spend this money by the end of the year?
Voice Bhear it at 4:19:45
So the the the real issue are the items for fiscal twenty seven. '27? Thank you, chair.
Voice Dhear it at 4:19:52
Pardon me. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 4:19:55
So now I'd like to go to item 22, the backup page one of two and page two of two. And then we're gonna show on the screen the item. So back in May, these are the items that were presented. And the items that we have in highlighted in gray are the items that we're giving a recommendation to fund through another fund instead of capital. So the first item that's great in is the 2026 Chevy silver Silverado work truck for the planning. Instead of having it coming out of capital, we're suggesting to be funded on 1025450%, and 50% for 02/1968.
Voice Chear it at 4:20:53
Can you express what those funds are? What are those? You've got it memorized.
Voice Bhear it at 4:20:59
Building permits and Pahrump permits. The 25268 is, Pahrump building per Pahrump, business permits, and the 10254 is building permits.
Voice Dhear it at 4:21:15
That makes sense. That makes sense.
Voice Ehear it at 4:21:17
So we're putting permits in a county fund?
Voice Bhear it at 4:21:21
It is a county. Yes. So buildings the planning department, a good portion of the planning department, their salaries are charged to the town of Pahrump buildings.
Voice Ehear it at 4:21:35
Explain it that way. It makes sense.
Voice Dhear it at 4:21:40
I I just said it's hot. It's hot. Ask. All he goes to do is ask Corey.
Voice Bhear it at 4:21:51
Okay. So the next item are the three motorcycles for Nye County Sheriff Office. We're suggesting to put them to PSST. The same goes for the key box system, PSST, four drones, stationary LPRs, the ring rescue, and the vehicles we're suggesting to not fund it this year because they are they already have a purchase order in the system or a requisition for about 400 and something thousand dollars, for vehicles. So we're suggesting to take 500,000 and put it towards, $1.00 $4.00 5, which is extraordinary maintenance for our buildings. And then from fund, originally, we had, approved in fund 10402, the Pahrump Justice Building soft water system. We're suggesting to put to 10402. Was that it was one. Next item is a 150,000 for the Justice Building emergency generator. We're suggesting to put it towards the 10402. And then on page two of two, The district court, rolling folding, folding shelves, putting that towards the district court improve, district court improvement fund, 104 10247. The purchase of a vehicle for HHS, put that to fund one zero two eight three Indigen Medical or Indigen. I'm sorry. Juvenile probation has a truck and a roll forward from the prior year that we did not bring forward in the May, capital. So we're asking for approval for that. And the truck, we're asking to put towards juvenile probation as opposed to the 10401. And those are the changes.
Voice Fhear it at 4:24:31
Okay. But, Chair, I have an issue, though. Yes, sir. We can't do PSST funds without amending the PSST plan. Holy crap.
Voice Dhear it at 4:24:40
Which you could
Voice Fhear it at 4:24:41
you could do. Well, but I also have some concerns about whether or not there's been a check on where it's supplanting funds or things of that nature.
Voice Dhear it at 4:24:50
We really have to look at that. So what would you recommend? How would we
Voice Fhear it at 4:24:54
I think we're gonna have to bring that element of it back.
Voice Bhear it at 4:24:59
So not do some of the sheriff stuff and then reevaluate?
Voice Fhear it at 4:25:04
Anything that's anything involving PSSE funds needs to be looked at because we're have to do amend the the
Voice Dhear it at 4:25:10
plan for that. So that would be part of somebody's motion.
Voice Ehear it at 4:25:15
Correct? What's that? We've been through this before, recently.
Voice Dhear it at 4:25:23
Okay. Let's do public comment and see if we have, anybody on the phone, please, Sam. That's gonna have to be part of the question.
Voice Ahear it at 4:25:33
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ghear it at 4:25:40
Chair and commissioner, it's Matthew Winterhawk for the record. I wanna make sure the public receives actual financial facts contained in today's packet, not an election season headline. You know, there's been discussion going on that, you know, earlier prop and then now possibly Nye County, more broadly, debt free, but, obviously, agenda 21 item says on page three, counties on debt management policy says that as of 06/30/2026, the county carries a general obligation bond debt in the amount of $23,099,000. The packet also identifies an approximately 14,760,000 remaining on jail bond, 2,127,000 on the animal shelter, and 6,212,000 on the Siemens Energy. That is not zero debt. And also for the statement on agenda 22, the financial picture is even more important because the staff report states that after capital requests were approved, finance brought forward a resolution to borrow borrow $4,000,000 from the capital fund for up to a year in order to maintain sufficient cash flow to even make their payroll or accounts payable payments. So on that same agenda, the public may hear language about being debt free, but the county is now acknowledging more than 23,000,000 in outstanding debt and a temporarily need to borrow $4,000,000 from capital fund to support basic operating cash flow. Those facts cannot be hidden or buried beneath political wording. And if someone intends to claim that it is Town Of Prompt itself is no separately issued bonded debt, well, then say, you know, here we go. The Town Of Prompt may have no separately listed outstanding bond instruments, but that does not the same as saying that the residents live under a debt free county government. Prump is an unincorporated town, and its residents are in Nye County. Taxpayers, they receive county services and remain affected by county debt, county liabilities, county capital decisions, and county cash flow problems. So zero debt service property tax rate also does not mean zero debt. The package explains the county is paying debt through other available funds and transferring rather than levying a separate debt service tax rate. So I'm therefore asking the board to answer clearly, is the proposed zero debt statement limited to only corump and the bonded debt, or will the county publicly acknowledge its own 23,000,000 outstanding debt? What are the exact terms approval date, repayment source and current balance on the $4,000,000 capital fund loan? And why does money intended for capital projects needed to maintain payroll and accounts payable cash flow? The public deserves the full explain not a campaign slogan. Nye County's own records do not support your headline of debt free. The documents outstanding debt, continuing debt service payments, and serious enough cash flow concern the finance proposed borrowing $4,000,000 to cover payroll bills. That's extremely alarming.
Voice Ehear it at 4:28:17
Debt That'll be it. Thank you. The debts that he mentioned are the same ones you mentioned. He read the same page that you read except he didn't hear you, I guess.
Voice Ahear it at 4:28:26
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Hhear it at 4:28:34
Hi. Tim O'Hannon, b o h a n n I n. Yeah. I'm I'm, I'm actually a fan of, taking part of this back and making sure the PSOC is adequately worked on and bring that that portion back. If it needs to be done, it needs to be done. But, you know, we're we're barring Peter and paying Paul. So let's make sure that we get it get it right. Thank you. Thanks, Tim. Come on up, Mary Anne.
Voice Ihear it at 4:29:06
Mary Anne Hollis, h o l l I s. Mister Mohanan made a good point just there. I have a question. Who sets the debt limit that we can incur? That's an NRS requirement that we You probably shouldn't be answering those questions, chair. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Gotta wait. Okay. I'd like to know who sets the debt limit, what is the amount, and what is our debt capacity now at? Because the number that I had, if you add in the $23.00 $9.09, it meets the debt limit. Maybe my math is off, maybe I'm not calling things the proper word, but I'd like that explained. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, anybody else for us, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Jhear it at 4:29:59
Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. We are at our debt limit as far as I know. And the only thing that I would like to see really looked into and changed is the the kennels. They need to have epoxy coating, and they need a heater for the wintertime. That is true. That's the that's how I feel about it. Thank you. Thank you. And I agree with her. Go ahead, Linda.
Voice Khear it at 4:30:29
Speaker Linda Clark, CLARK. Well, it's a long day, long week.
Voice Lhear it at 4:30:34
Yeah, do you. Speaker Okay.
Voice Khear it at 4:30:37
I would like to really have guarantee that you guys aren't gonna put your hands in the pot and mess this all up. The second thing I wanna say is a suggestion. We need to hire Beth Dutton. Bring her in here and let her get things straightened out. Do you know who Beth Dutton is from? Mhmm. Oh. Okay. I can't, I can't answer. Yellowstone. Yellowstone
Voice Dhear it at 4:31:06
and now she's on. Who has time for TV?
Voice Khear it at 4:31:09
Go ahead. I know she's not from here. But you know what? She's got a good mind and she would have never let you guys get into this mess. Thank you.
Voice Dhear it at 4:31:21
Thank you. Sam?
Voice Ahear it at 4:31:24
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. Hello,
Voice Mhear it at 4:31:31
commissioners. Michael David Garcia, g a r c I a. Can you hear me? Is my frequency in channel okay?
Voice Mhear it at 4:31:44
Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Well, the good thing about TV is at least you see better actors. But anyhow, once again, I I remember when I was my first amendment was itself for specifically outlining USC 15. That's United States code 15, and y'all have still failed to correct the record. Y'all officially logged it as UFC. More conspiracy stuff. I know it. But, anyhow, United States code 15. And once again, this is a perfect opportunity to show that qualified immunity and fraud should never dwell in the same place. And I hope our state and federal partners are paying attention because the people don't trust them. Y'all shouldn't trust them. The spreadsheet, they can't hold the water. Thank y'all. Oh, and thank you, Matthew Winter. And right on point every time, and I can't imagine a commissioner not wanting to hear what you have to say. And Bruce Jabbour Okay. Again, great. Great. Great. Great. Great talk about the constitutionality of things. A right to practice and a right to travel, foundational Law, eighteen sixty seven Nevada. Wake up, people. This administrative, rule of law is dead without God's trust. Look above you. The sign's black. I want you to try shining it. Bring the spirit. Thank you.
Voice Dhear it at 4:33:13
Sam, come on down, Tony.
Voice Nhear it at 4:33:19
Tony Hoverman, h o v e r m a n. I just wanna know when this lady was reading this really nice lady named Zena was reading off stuff, and she said, water softening system. Who's entitled in this town to have a water softening system at the cost of my property taxes? I don't have a water softening system at my house. I don't know if it's the court system that was supposed to get one or the jail system, but a water softening system? I have nitrates in my well water. A water softening system. My property taxes are paying for that now too. That's outrageous. I don't know who thinks they're entitled to have a water softening system in this town. I just would I really would like to know the answer to that question.
Voice Ahear it at 4:34:32
Sam, do you have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Lhear it at 4:34:40
Hello, chairman and commissioners. Bruce Johnson, DOHNS, speaking on items twenty one and twenty two because of the concern of financial stewardship of Nye County. The declaration of independence from life says that governments derive their just powers from the government. That's constitution carries that principle forward article one section two declares all political powers inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their protection, security, and benefit. That means treasury does not government money. It's people's money and public servants for the benefit of the whole of the community. Every debt incurred today becomes an obligation carried into tomorrow. Every capital project should therefore be measured not only by its cost, but by its necessity, its long term benefit, and its impact on generations. One of the oldest maxims of law teaches the welfare of the people is the supreme law. That principle calls for careful stewardship, transparent decision making, and management of quick resources. I encourage the board to continue asking difficult questions before assuming new obligations. Is this project necessary? Is it financially sustainable? Have long term operating and maintenance costs been fully considered? And has the public been given meaningful opportunity to understand and comment before commitments are made? Stewardship is not measured by how much government built. It is measured by how faithfully government protects both public treasury and the rights of the people who provide it. I'll close with Luke sixteen ten. He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much. Faithfulness in small financial decisions builds confidence in larger. I encourage this court to continue governing with transparency, restraint, fidelity to the constitution, remembering always that all political power is inherent in the people, including all that people sitting in them chairs out in front of you. And every dollar and trust of the government should be managed for their protection, security, and benefit. Thank you.
Voice Dhear it at 4:37:01
Thank you. Sam, do you have a water softening system? Just kidding. Is everybody on the phone?
Voice Ahear it at 4:37:08
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. The end of the call. Okay. No. I don't. Done.
Voice Dhear it at 4:37:23
Closed. Commissioners, I don't know what you wanna do. But there has to be amendment.
Voice Chear it at 4:37:31
So whatever you're doing Well, we can approve it less the PSST.
Voice Chear it at 4:37:38
So I would like to make a motion to approve, the debt management policy statement capital improvement plan for Nye County fiscal year twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, which is item 21 and item number 22. I would like to amend and further hear more on the Nye County fiscal year twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven as stated, less the PSST to be heard at a different time. You've got something. Second.
Voice Dhear it at 4:38:10
May I ask a question prior to vote? We have a staff that yeah. Great. What is
Voice Ohear it at 4:38:17
when it's excluded, it just is not addressed. Is that correct? So there's nothing that's being done with the PSST stuff in there. Not at all. So it's just staying where it was this morning. Yes. So sometimes when I talk, I'm not necessarily asking questions. It's because the legislative record is important. So in the event that someone does something that is contrary to what is intended, which you can imagine happens around here every once in a while, they'll go back to legislative record, which is the reason for the record. So I'm just kind of restating here that that all of the things that are marked PSST and or sheriff, and correct me if I'm wrong, they will remain in the same situation as they were twenty four hours ago even after this motion is carried and voted in the affirmative. Is that correct? Somebody, please. Thank you very much.
Voice Dhear it at 4:39:07
Thank you. Did you make a motion? Yes. I got a second. Oh, motion and a second. All those in favor. Aye. Reserving. Vascovichai, that carries five zero. Thank you. 16, please.
23. For Possible Action - Presentation by Mike Jackson with Southern Nevada Transit Coalition regarding public transportation updates; and discussion and deliberation to approve to fund an estimated $140,000.00 for Fiscal Year 2027 for a local match requirement needed to continue public transportation services in Pahrump under the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) Section 5311 Rural Public Transportation Program.(5-minute time limit)
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Voice Ahear it at 3:13:54
For possible action presented by Mike Jackson with Southern Nevada Transit Coalition regarding public transportation updates and discussion and deliberation to approve the fund an estimated 140,000 for fiscal year 2027 for a local match required needed to contribute public continue public transportation services in public under the Federal Transit Administration section five thousand three and eleven rural public transportation program.
Voice Bhear it at 3:14:25
Thank you for that. Good afternoon, sir. They promised me you only needed three minutes. Yeah.
Voice Chear it at 3:14:30
Well, I'll cut to I love that. That's for sure. My name is Mike Jackson or Michael Jackson, and I know how to moonwalk. I'm the executive director of Southern Nevada Transit Coalition, brand name Silver Rider. We operate all the rural transit in Southern Nevada. We've been running, service in Laughlin, Mesquite, older city since 2002. We've won the rural transit of the year for the nation in 2013. So we do what we do, and we do it well. We were asked by NDOT to come to Pahrump to help with the situation to continue transit operating in which we did. And NDOT was good enough to work it out with FTA to fund it 100% while we try to work through this transition. A 100% funding is running out. We need match. And to understand a little bit how it works if you're not familiar with public transit is the federal funds require a match. At our other sites, Laughlin, Mesquite, and Boulder City, we operate off of separate grants, and we get a commitment from the RTC of Southern Nevada for the matching funds for those federal funds. So I'm here today to ask for Nye County to support this in matching federal funds to continue to operate public transit in Pahrump. Without that, we will have to shut transit down July 31. So I need action now. I need a commitment. Otherwise, we will either have to pause public transit or close it down completely.
Voice Bhear it at 3:16:19
What were the other jurisdictions you knew this?
Voice Chear it at 3:16:22
Where we operate? No. Laughlin, Boulder City, and Mesquite, basically,
Voice Bhear it at 3:16:28
the areas in between. Gotcha. How do their meetings go compared to these?
Voice Bhear it at 3:16:33
pretty lively. Yeah? Yeah. Nice. Do they do
Voice Dhear it at 3:16:37
they give you match?
Voice Chear it at 3:16:39
The city of Mesquite does not. The RTC does. The RTC is the MPO of that area, and all of our match is provided by the RTC of Southern Nevada. Yeah. How did this work here before? How did it work here before? Yeah. I believe that the transit person before received different funds from different areas,
Voice Ehear it at 3:17:02
but I'm not exactly sure. I was not privy to the financials of the I am the president and chairman of the board of Front Valley Public Transportation. It's still as a company where we don't operate because NDOT shut us down because we didn't have enough money in the bank. We didn't have money in the bank because NDOT didn't pay us. So this a lot of this is a bunch of lies and things, but Oh, we got wait. Wait. They fought they funded us a 100%. So I don't know why they can't fund you a 100% when they called you to go take over from what we were doing, and now we don't have it. And you don't do veterans, which we were doing, which takes veterans anywhere they wanna go for free. So we're gonna start that up again in September, but it'd be up to the board on this if we don't have that kind of money. Well, when it comes to Pahrump Valley, I don't know their circumstances.
Voice Chear it at 3:17:53
I wasn't privy to that, and that wasn't my business. But I do know from the beginning of Pahrump Valley Transit and their formation, I assisted them in every way I could. I donated vehicles to them. I provided all of my programs, procedures, and policies to help them be compliant.
Voice Ehear it at 3:18:11
So I was a good neighbor. I'm not I'm not picking on you. I'm just telling you what NDOT did because what they say happened didn't happen. So
Voice Chear it at 3:18:20
Alright. Any other questions?
Voice Fhear it at 3:18:22
Yes. Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Thank you, Mike Jackson, for Michael.
Voice Chear it at 3:18:31
Yeah. One glove. Thank
Voice Fhear it at 3:18:34
you for stepping up at the the sensitive time that, NDOT asked you to. And so I'm not speaking for, commissioner Koenig, when he says that this is all lies. You stepped up. Your organization stepped up and have been, facilitating the transportation for all of the folks in Pahrump for whatever appointments that they need, but only in Pahrump.
Voice Chear it at 3:19:04
Is that right? You know, quite honestly, when we when we when I agreed to come out and help, my thought pattern at that time was to come help, get the transition taken care of, and then hand it off to find somebody else to take it over. Once we came out here and seen what great employees there was there and truly the need of public transit in the Parrampton area, it made us wanna stay. And so we're in it to stay. We're in it to continue. We've been at our other sites for many years, twenty three years. We're here to stay. And it's funny. Pahrump was part of our mission statement when SNTC was formed. We actually had a board member, Pablo, that was out of Pahrump. The lawyer Pablo, he was our board member. So we're kinda going back to where we had originally started, and Pahrump was part of our vision. So we're here. Okay. So
Voice Fhear it at 3:20:05
so you're saying that that any funding that was left over, because you've you've you've taken over all of the assets Right. Here in Pahrump. Well. Most of the other building, the the transport, the vehicles, etcetera. Anything that had FDA, interest in. Yes. So so you answered one of the questions is you're only good until July 31. Exactly. And then what happens? You shut the operation down if we're because if you've done research on Nye County, we're in a deficit. We're trying to get out of the deficit, trying to figure things out. So what are our options to continue to have you and your operation to continue to provide transportation for whether it's the seniors, whether it's get getting, medicine, what whatever the case may be. What we're looking at is
Voice Chear it at 3:20:57
for, our next budget, which starts in October. FTA, I believe, will release more funding to put us through until we start into the next grant, which we need to apply for, and we need to have a commitment for that grant that starts in October. Okay. Without any knowledge or any commitment, FTA will not release any more funding.
Voice Fhear it at 3:21:26
So so with this, request, the estimated the estimated to me is up to $140,000. Up to. And and so would that carry, and and I don't know where we're going to find that money. We need time to find that money. I can ask the question. I'll ask the question. Do we have a $140,000 comptroller to to for this great entity that's doing a great bank service for our folks here in Perot?
Voice Ghear it at 3:21:56
So for the on the county side, no. We are still in a budget situation that we're trying to work our way out of. But we do we do not have a budget for transportation, but we do have, a fund balance that we can draw upon and do a budget augment in the town of Pahrump if it's just to get us through this short time period to give us time to figure out what we can do on is it just the town is the question, or is it gonna be countywide?
Voice Chear it at 3:22:33
Well, currently, the demand response Pahrump. Is within Pahrump, and we do a service to Beatty. And so there is also the service that was canceled before we had taken over that goes to Vegas that does need to come back because there's medical services that the residents of Pahrump need there too. How many times a week are you going to Bevy? It needs to be evaluated.
Voice Fhear it at 3:22:59
I know how many times a week are you going to Bevy? Because you said you have a service for Bevy. Oh, Bevy is just once. One day a week? K. And four days, five days a week for Pahrump? Pahrump's six. Six days a week for Pahrump? You're
Voice Chear it at 3:23:15
not on record, ma'am. Sorry. Thank you. I can hear you, but you're not on record. Six six in Pahrump, one for Beatty. And Vegas needs to be evaluated. K. We basically came in with no changes other than we've stopped the two week in advance reservations and changed it to twenty four. So let me ask you a question, sir.
Voice Fhear it at 3:23:39
We we obviously don't have the money now. If the operation shuts down at on on July 31 and then we are somehow able to find funding for this funding source for this transportation, for the people of Pahrump and once a week to Beatty. Would you be able to resume immediately?
Voice Chear it at 3:24:02
Yes. Well, the longer it goes, the longer it may be for us to lose the great employees that we have here. And that that is a big concern.
Voice Fhear it at 3:24:14
Controller wants to jump in through the chair.
Voice Ghear it at 3:24:17
I have a question for you. You said this, that it expires at the end of July. The end of July? Is that correct? July 31, we're out of money. Okay. So the federal funding that you're talking about, is this the,
Voice Chear it at 3:24:35
can you can you give us a little more information about the federal funding? Federal funding that we're operating off of right now, I believe, is still leftover COVID money, which was a 100%. I'm not exactly sure. That's not my deal. When we were asked to take over, NDOT stated that they had 100% funding to carry us through. When we first started rolling into it and coming up with an agreement, the agreement was about 250,000. And not all the money got approved, and it ended up being only 106 because the 250 wouldn't last until November. And that's why this urgency has come up. It was only 106,000 that the FDA approved.
Voice Ghear it at 3:25:19
So we don't do we know that the FDA would definitely approve it come October?
Voice Chear it at 3:25:23
I have emails that say.
Voice Ghear it at 3:25:26
And what kind of funding from the FTA is this? Left over a 100% funding.
Voice Chear it at 3:25:33
Does that make sense? From now until basically, what I've been told is the FDA does not want to release any more 100 funding unless there is a commitment. And it's not a commitment for now. It's a commitment for 2027.
Voice Ghear it at 3:25:52
A commitment from the transportation
Voice Chear it at 3:25:54
company or backing from From Nye County for matching funds. Just like when we apply for a grant on our other sites, our grant includes a letter of commitment from the RTC for that grant to get approved. Does that make sense? Mhmm. And, mister Jackson, excuse me, controller chair,
Voice Fhear it at 3:26:17
could you tell me approximately how much your monthly operating costs are?
Voice Chear it at 3:26:24
It is costing in anywhere because we had a three three week payroll. So that was three payroll month, but it's ranging between 40 and 60,000 a month. That's with no expansion running what they had. No Vegas. No nothing. I see such potential here too. Such potential. And one of the things important to know, because I know that the way things may have gone in the past, we don't ask for that 140,000 a check at the beginning. We draw off that every month. We get reimbursed for expenses.
Voice Fhear it at 3:27:05
Approximately, it's like four months of operating costs, approximately. Yeah.
Voice Chear it at 3:27:13
So every month, we bill NDOT, and then we bill Nye County for the match. Chair? Or the cost of that.
Voice Dhear it at 3:27:23
Mr. Jackson, you mentioned Laughlin and Mesquite. You said Mesquite doesn't have to come up with any money? For the How much money does Laughlin come up with? Laughlin
Voice Chear it at 3:27:37
none of the others RTC is our match provider for all three sites.
Voice Hhear it at 3:27:42
What's the third site?
Voice Dhear it at 3:27:44
Boulder City and Botlin. Didn't get that. And they're all in Clark County. Clark. Therefore, RTC of Southern Nevada's And we don't have such a thing with our RTC here for Nye County commissioner sitting on that board. Thank
Voice Chear it at 3:27:58
you. Thank you, chair. That's something that you guys do need to think about with the next census when Pahrump goes over 50,000 in MPO.
Voice Dhear it at 3:28:08
We're already there. Yep. Think about what?
Voice Chear it at 3:28:12
M you'll become an MPO. What's an MPO?
Voice Dhear it at 3:28:16
Long discussion? Long discussion. What does it stand for? Metropolitan
Voice Dhear it at 3:28:23
Received federal I'd like to see the RTC have an item in regards to that so you guys can inform us. Yes. You need to dig into that. Chair. Chair? Thank you, sir. Chair of our, excuse me. As chair is RTC,
Voice Fhear it at 3:28:37
this is the first I've heard of the MPO. MPO. Thank you, sir. They'll designate the area with a UZA,
Voice Chear it at 3:28:44
and then you have to form an MPO, and then you're able to receive federal funds Now we're talking. Thank you. Straight to you. But that's but that's not until
Voice Fhear it at 3:28:56
the next census, which is another four or five years from now. It'll be here before you do it. Well, we're we're trying to figure out this solution for transportation for our people in Pahrump As if we're broken. Right now. Yeah. So
Voice Chear it at 3:29:12
I need action. I need I need to know something quickly. Otherwise, thirty first, it will happen.
Voice Fhear it at 3:29:25
Basically. Right? Basically. Yeah. So, sir, I've I've said this before, and I'm not speaking for the the rest of the board because I believe in this. I know what you're doing. I know what you've done. I know what you're going to do, and it is for the people and the transportation. But I can't give you what we don't have. And according to the comptroller right now, we don't have it. We'll look for it. And if it's in time, the thirty first is next week. Yep. What happened? But the good thing is is that if we're able to find it, a funding source, we'll be able to resume. And then the risk, yes, and apologies in advance for your staff that that need to survive. They need that paycheck. Again, we can't give you what we don't have. And I'm not speaking for the rest of the board, just for myself at this time. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you, sir. Thank
Voice Bhear it at 3:30:29
you. Let's open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Ihear it at 3:30:35
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Jhear it at 3:30:42
Hello. My name is Ron Richardson, r o n r I t h a r d s o n. I was speaking in respect to, I guess, it's, agenda item number eight, e t s u 26 financial. Well, look, sir, call we're
Voice Bhear it at 3:30:57
on 23 right now.
Voice Bhear it at 3:31:03
you guys keep it down, please? Or we can take another break and stay here all night. Jesus. Anybody
Voice Ihear it at 3:31:11
else, Sam? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Jhear it at 3:31:18
Hi. This is Tim Bohannon, b o h a n n o m. You know, part of part of transportation in this kind of setting is important for those who need to be able to get medical care. So from a safe public safety standpoint, that is a factor that has to be considered. Now let's get down to the real fund. From a finance standpoint, that's you know, we're in we're in tough water. But if I heard correctly that there may be some room in the prompt budget to be able to do something short term, get us through the immediate concern, reevaluate, and then go forward from there. The the the other aspect during the the was it in MPO? I'm not sure how quickly that MPO would be able to turn around and be able to do do something from a federal funding. I'm sure it takes time, and that will have to be evaluated. And the time frame from 07/31 to whatever that date is would have to be calculated in the background of saying it's part of today's docket. So, you know, in the interest of public safety, think about it. In the interest of finance, you gotta do what you can do.
Voice Bhear it at 3:32:46
Thanks, Tim. Sam, anybody else, please?
Voice Ihear it at 3:32:49
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Lhear it at 3:32:57
Commissioners, Herman Lewis, l e w I s. Excellent decision. You can't spend what you don't have. Well, the gentleman seems very nice. He's very short on specifics. I'd recommend that he present paperwork on the other matching grants so you have stuff that you can look at that's in writing. Excellent job. Deny.
Voice Bhear it at 3:33:20
Thank you for that. Come on up, Susie. Susie Hurts, h e r t z. I'm not sure about this money that's in the town of Pahrump. But if I heard correctly, we're talking about from August 1 to October. August, September, two months, maybe three. That's not a long time for a temporary use of town funds for town transportation. Just a thought. Thank you. Thank you. Come on up, sir.
Voice Mhear it at 3:34:03
Anthony Greco, GRECO. It's a real good idea to have public transportation here, but for a short term thing, it's not any good. You get people used to using something, and then the rug gets pulled out from under them. You gotta make sure that there's enough of money for a few years where this could do something for us. You know, anything to make the town better is good, but when you start something you can't finish is good, and just plea please be careful with our money. Fifty years in business. I heard the checks in the mail for a very long time.
Voice Ihear it at 3:34:37
Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone? Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 3:34:46
Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. If I'm not mistaken, I might be confused, but don't we have Vets Trans transportation networks out of the senior center that's available to everybody? If you call them up and make a reservation, they can take you just about anywhere. And they charge gas money just about $20 to go to Vegas one way. So I'm not quite sure where this company comes in. But if we don't have the money, we don't have the money. We we can't afford to help them and not help what we have.
Voice Bhear it at 3:35:32
Thank you. Thank you. Sam oh, come on up, Linda.
Voice Hhear it at 3:35:41
Sorry. Linda Clark, CLARK. Seems like since I've been here, we've had money for transportation for our seniors and our people that need it. Why all of a sudden don't we? Did we cut it out of our original budget? Or did somebody else spend it for something else, which is more likely what happened? I find it very interesting that you guys always have the money for what you want, but where's the money for what we need and we want? Thank you.
Voice Ihear it at 3:36:19
Is there anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Jhear it at 3:36:27
Yeah. Hello, commissioners. Bruce Johnson, JIP, HNSON. I'm trying to wrap my head around this 40 to $60,000 a month. Can anybody, help me out there?
Voice Ihear it at 3:36:42
How about now, Sam? Got anybody? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 3:36:50
That's Borisiewicz, b o r y s e w I c h. I wanna let you know that I have been using this service to get around town since I don't have a vehicle repaired or yet. The people are extremely, extremely nice, and they care for all of the people that they pick up. We have sometimes five, six people, and they know their stories unless it's somebody new, and then they get to know you. And it's an excellent service, and I do not wanna see it go away. I had previously spoken with somebody in government there, and they had mentioned that we probably have the money in the CDBG grant. Some of that money that we've been taken and thrown at these RVs, maybe we can take that money and provide rides for the people that need to get around town. You do have to call in advance. They tell you two days, and then you have to pay $4 each way. I tried to find out what the $4 was since they were already funded, and nobody says anything except that they have to pay it back to the federal government, which is a little a little strange, and I'd like to know what that is. But this is a very good program. It's something that has helped me, and that's not why I say it's a great program. It's a great program because one of the ladies took somebody shopping, and they stopped the the bus, and he helped him put his groceries in, got him home. He had his little cart and helped him get his groceries in because he didn't have a car. And that is a benefit to this town, and everybody that uses this service says that how great it is. So I would like to see us continue. I would like to know if there's any money in the CDBG grant or any other grant that's just floating around out there to fund these guys with our matching fee of a $140,000, I think it is. So that's what I gotta say, and I sure hope the commissioners actually sit there and talk about the CDBG. Do we have the money? Zena let them know. And so I gotta say thanks.
Voice Bhear it at 3:39:12
Thank you. I'm gonna remind everybody, we have a 100 plus donkeys again. Come on up, Frank.
Voice Nhear it at 3:39:19
Frank Carbone, c a r b o n e. I guess the question I have is, from what I understand from the conversation, a 140,000 is not for just that short period of time. I believe that's one year's worth of funding. A match. So just wanna make sure that's clear. If anybody wants to get up and clarify my statement, I just wanna make sure.
Voice Bhear it at 3:39:41
Thanks, Frank. Sir, do you wanna clarify on that or no?
Voice Dhear it at 3:39:47
Like you said, it was a match.
Voice Bhear it at 3:39:49
Just for the public. Yeah. 140
Voice Chear it at 3:39:53
is for a year's time. Our share of a year. You said it's drawn upon
Voice Bhear it at 3:39:57
throughout that year. Thank you, sir. Alright, Sam. We got anybody else, please? Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted.
Voice Ihear it at 3:40:03
Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ohear it at 3:40:08
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, GARCIA. Can y'all hear me? Is it okay? Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the enthusiasm. But once again, I go back to the right to practice and the right to travel, and this is another example of y'all's failures. And I hope you don't take it personal, but your silence is really beyond any argument. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 3:40:38
Okay. Sam, do you have anybody else, please? No, chair. Come on up. You? Tony.
Voice Phear it at 3:40:47
Couldn't remember. Tony Hoverman, h o v e r m a n. So I don't have the money to help out the citizens in this town that pay a lot of us pay property taxes, and I'm glad I don't rely on this transportation you guys say you don't have money for. Well, since you don't have money for this agency that's been helping us out, why don't we take all of your official cars that, Pahrump and Knight County is providing to you when you need to go and conduct official business. And we can hire some drivers, and they can drive your company vehicles. And these poor people that need help with the groceries, they can still get the groceries and be taken to doctor's appointments and dentist appointments and whatever appointments they need. I I mean, you guys have all have really nice personal vehicles. I know Deborah does. She's got a beautiful Jeep. She displays outside so everybody can see it. Why don't we just take your some of the the some of the city and county cars and take these poor people to the grocery store and the dentist office and the doctor's office? We already have the vehicles. You guys would have to, like, maybe use your own for to conduct business, but there's a whole yard out there full of vehicles that are behind a chain link fence out there in the yard. So there is a way around this. It might be a little bit of a convenience to all of you, but I don't think this should be taken away from the people. People that pay you taxes and people who vote you people up here. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. We could raise your taxes. Mhmm.
Voice Bhear it at 3:42:45
Sam, do we have anybody else, please?
Voice Dhear it at 3:42:49
No, chair. We're gonna close public comment. One second here. I just can't let that go. Let me let me just state that brand new county Jeep. I I have a brand new county Jeep, by the way. Yeah. I don't even have a county vehicle. Don't use a county vehicle. And by the way, they just stated they have all the vehicles they need. They have the the building that they need. It has nothing to do with vehicles.
Voice Bhear it at 3:43:08
It has cost of operations. Thank you, chair. But I just want to make sure we don't forget psychiatrist appointments. Appointments. Right? Sure. Because there's all kinds of different appointments. Some of those appointments.
Voice Ehear it at 3:43:18
I heard. Anybody did we close it? Okay. Wait a minute. My turn. Jeez. You're right. Missus Clark had a question. The previous transportation service that we had here was not paid by for by the county. It paid for by NDOT NDOT. Who cut us off. That's why we went away. And now NDOT is paying them, and now NDOT appears to be trying to slip out from them, and they want the money from us. So we didn't have the money before, and we don't have the money now.
Voice Dhear it at 3:43:50
Can we consider, commissioners, LATCF? Can we consider LATCF,
Voice Fhear it at 3:43:58
comptroller? We could.
Voice Ghear it at 3:44:01
Yes. You can. And I wanna remind the commissioners that the service is for the town of Pahrumpet residents and Beatty.
Voice Fhear it at 3:44:13
And Amargosa was part of the original.
Voice Fhear it at 3:44:18
You did that. That never worked. I don't think they had that much activity, but but Beatty certainly could go to, two days a week if if there's a demand for it. Beatty was easy,
Voice Ehear it at 3:44:31
and they loved it. Amargosa is just Wasn't ready for it. Well, they can't go house to house in Amargosa. Oh, that's true. It's a long ways. Anyways I know the comptroller's kinda driving us to towards town of Perham, but How much is it? How much what do we have left in LA TCF?
Voice Hhear it at 3:44:48
Well, we don't know. Available. Available.
Voice Ehear it at 3:44:51
Not left. Available.
Voice Ghear it at 3:44:54
I have to check on that. I would suggest LA TCF for the for Beatty and Amargosa and do a budget augment for the town of Pahrump and have the town of Pahrump pay out of their general fund.
Voice Dhear it at 3:45:10
I so move proposal bill.
Voice Ehear it at 3:45:12
Not just not separate money. It's a 140 for all.
Voice Fhear it at 3:45:16
So not how you break it up. If you can break it up. Yeah. Here's the risk. Okay. Mike Jackson, mentioned that October, what I heard was a little bit of reluctance, sir. It's not guaranteed. And so if we're to find, this money through latch funding, we would be able to at least carry for six months.
Voice Dhear it at 3:45:39
If A year.
Voice Fhear it at 3:45:41
Well, there's no match if if and if he doesn't receive the funding. Right? So that brings us back to the six months risk.
Voice Fhear it at 3:45:55
with a letter from Mike Jackson's organization, letter of intent and and a letter of intent from us to them, that would certainly help secure your your funding. Did you close public? I believe you did chair.
Voice Bhear it at 3:46:15
Go ahead. He's closing public. So
Voice Ghear it at 3:46:20
the balance available in LATCF, 172,000.
Voice Dhear it at 3:46:28
Before we get done with negotiations for
Voice Bhear it at 3:46:32
We're still negotiating buyouts. Buyouts.
Voice Dhear it at 3:46:35
And we don't We're done? We Those are done at this point. Okay. Good. So it sounds like that's our solution. I'm making I'm making a motion to fund this out of LATC.
Voice Bhear it at 3:46:47
I'll second. Four seconds. Motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. That was aye. Thought you Boscovich, aye. I don't know if Bain did. I five 0. Thank you on that. 19, please.
Voice Fhear it at 3:46:59
Thank you again, folks.
24. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT Up to three-minute time limit per person) Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item (SECOND).
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Item 24, general public comment up to three minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners, action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.
Voice Bhear it at 6:00:54
Thank you. Go ahead, Linda.
Voice Chear it at 6:00:59
Your time I have a suggestion. Why don't we just save a lot of time and each of you voice your opinion on what you want and we'll go from there. You're wasting so much time. Yeah. You agree. Right? Yeah. So what's your opinion? What's your opinion? What's your opinion? What's your opinion? What's your opinion? What we do with it, I don't know, but at least we know. Thank you. Thanks. Serena,
Voice Bhear it at 6:01:28
anybody on the phone, please?
Voice Dhear it at 6:01:29
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ehear it at 6:01:36
Hi. Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n. When I had my first comments, I was going to talk about the increase in the power bill. The Valley Electric sent some people out here. They wanted to upgrade my meter, and I hadn't been here for a year. So and somebody said, well, you'll get fined if you don't let them. So I said, well, yeah, you can you can do that. How long is it gonna take? I'm on oxygen. I can't have it off too long. And they said about five minutes. So they they changed it up, and lo and behold, a month went by and my power bill went up exactly $100. Nothing changed. Not from last year to this year, not one thing changed, and my power bill went up $100 in one month. Now I was reading about how expensive it's going to be for data centers and and that are it might increase our power usage, and that would have to be paid for you know, if the the power that they use would have to be paid for somehow. So my guess is this has a lot to do with all the infrastructure that's going forward to allow data centers in Pahrump. And I think it's really something to point out. So if not a year from now, I may not be here, but other people might say, oh, I heard that a year ago. And is it finally coming true? There's a lot of things in the in all of these items that we don't know anything about. There's a lot of things that are being discussed that we don't know anything about. But I'm sure that, there's a dollar sign in front of it since the county and the town needs so much money, But it's not a fix. We can let us, you know, decrease government. That will do a lot to save money. But, hopefully, the next meetings got a little bit easier for you, Ron. I'm sorry that you had such a hard time. But we'll we're hanging in there with you. And What did I do? So we'll see you at the next meeting. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 6:04:02
What did I do? I'm sorry, sir. Come on down. What'd say it is?
Voice Fhear it at 6:04:12
Hi. I'm Roger Wilson. I want to talk about something that hasn't been mentioned today, data centers. No. Roger. Can you spell your last name? W I l s o n. I'll make this brief.
Voice Ghear it at 6:04:28
You. Let me finish
Voice Hhear it at 6:04:30
laughing for a moment.
Voice Fhear it at 6:04:35
I would just like to recommend regarding data centers that we extend the current moratorium for one year. When I'm hearing, I think that we need to grow more in our knowledge in this ever changing industry that will have a major permanent impact on our town.
Voice Chear it at 6:04:55
Thank you. Thank you. Mister Wilson, we'll see you on Saturday here at 10AM. Thank you.
Voice Dhear it at 6:05:05
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Ihear it at 6:05:09
Hello, commissioner. It's Michael David Garcia, G A R C I A. Yes. Is my volume okay for y'all? My tone's okay? Well, I want It's marvel it's marvelous. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Always nice to have a few cheerleaders in the house. But anyhow, the great thing about defense, folks, when it comes to your constitutional oath, we got a chance to run it back. Y'all are obviously weak when it comes to fraud, extortion, and official oppression. So, mister DA, let's run it back. I will run it back and run it back and run it back. Address, redress. And next, we get to get the remonstrance. Okay? First, he didn't make a point of order. I was never ruled out of order. Okay? Jermaine. Let's talk about Jermaine. You ever wonder why the DA has never been prosecuted for processing fraud with captain Berkowitz? What about the judges? What about the children? What about the trafficking of children? Y'all ain't got no levels. Y'all can't stand up. You are so weak with your spiritual altar. You you can't even recognize. What about Matthews 1926? It may seem impossible for me to go against all y'all, but with God, nothing is impossible. I stand before you. Show me. Show me you can stand up for the First Amendment. Show me you know how many unconstitutional county rules, ordinances, and state statutes supersede in an alien vote declaration in Nevada constitution article one section one. Show me you got it. None of y'all have it. Y'all are weak, weak, weak, and you sold out your neighbors. Justice for all. What about that pledge? Where are you at, mister DA? You're well aware Kirk Spittow had 52 ex partes with chief justice Herndon. Where are you at? I can't hear you. Come on, sheriff. Come on, sheriff. You sponsored some of these unconstitutional ordinances. What about practicing from the bench? Why can't we bring a camera into a public courtroom in our own cases? You got judges hanging notes on the door. They're practicing. They're Mhmm. I read legislators. They're practicing from the bench. What's wrong with y'all? You talk about animals. What about the children? Listen. We all have a cross to bear. Where's your cross? It obviously ain't in god's trust. Your oath to office is dead. Chevron proved it. It's called it's called legal realism. Your whole career, mister DEA, has been an illusion with Chevron. Take that to the bank. You're nothing but a fraud. Okay. And I know it. I can stand up to you. Bring that chair, that policy man. A policy is not law. An ordinance is not law. A rule is not law. A statute is not law. Where is your constitutional
Voice Jhear it at 6:08:07
oath you got paid for? Show me. Thank you. Oh, thank you so much. Jesus.
Voice Ihear it at 6:08:15
Why do we have to
Voice Jhear it at 6:08:16
have I don't know. The freedom of speech. Said we had to Speaking of psychiatrists.
Voice Bhear it at 6:08:23
Yes. Go ahead, Susie.
Voice Ghear it at 6:08:25
Not that you need a Susie Hertz, h e r t z. I just wanted to mention and say that I appreciate all of the effort that goes on in the planning department and and the staff's levels of responsibilities. I can't imagine how difficult it is to have to try and rewrite these ordinances and laws to make them helpful and protective. So I I respect that and I thank you for your efforts. As a citizen, I think that we're looking at a situation in our lives right now that has become monstrous. And that is what has happened with the growth of solar and data centers. And it's quickly growing out of control. I don't think that we, as a small town or any small town for that matter, has the expertise and the capacity to try and protect itself and its citizens from this massive big business push. And I also recognize from my own research that a lot of this stuff has been going on for years at the state and federal levels before we ever hear of it. So sometimes you guys don't hear about it either until the very tail end of things. But it takes a group of us. It takes us as a community to recognize that and to take responsibility for it and become educated. We need to know more. The town hall is an example of what will help do that, but we need more of that. People don't understand how the laws work and how the rules work here in this small town or in our state. And I think maybe we need to do a little bit more work on that because you're here to protect us and serve us. And if the public doesn't know what's coming down the pike, that's the means by which they get so irate and so upset and so enraged. And we can avoid that if we worked more constructively and aggressively at being educated and sharing that education. On a personal just a today note, it occurred to me that, you know, maybe, and I've talked about us not reordering the agenda as happens every every time we have a meeting. And what happens quite often is that the very hot topics get left to the end of the day, and it makes people feel as if they're being kind of pushed out the door. And that's not right. And on top of it, I think if those issues that are hot were dealt with in their position Thank you. You would be Thank less burned out Thank you. By the time they Thank come you. Thank you. Serena, anybody on the phone, please? The
Voice Dhear it at 6:11:39
caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Khear it at 6:11:43
Yes. Paul Lemus again, l e m u s. I wanted to take my three minutes real quick and remind everybody of a Time Magazine article. I know it's a little off base, but in our situation in the Amargosa Valley area, this is some stuff that we've been kinda dealing with. So 10/23/1995, I was jumping on a bus and headed to the military to join the United States Navy and fight for my country. And I wanted to go there and be part of the war that was going on, which is kind of back in that area now. And some of the younger generations like my kids that are in JROTC right now are are being kind of a breastfeeding brought up to this situation that we're now dealing with across seed. But back in Nye County in the same month, sitting on a bale of barley destined for his cattle, Dick Carver gets just a little misty eye as he recalls the moment that propelled him in the leadership of a rebellion. Now sweeping the West, usually mild mannered and affable. The Nevada rancher and Nye County commissioner reached a point last year when he had enough. To him, federal intrusion into the daily life of his county had simply grown too far. Great. So on 07/04/1994, Independence Day, he took the law into his own hand. His weapon of choice, a rusting yellow d seven caterpillar bulldozer. I just ask that you guys take a moment to read this article. It goes back to a time when things like what we're dealing with now were going on. And we just wanna say that with district one commissioner mister Jabbar and things that are going on, it's a big area out there. We appreciate the stuff that you did and the motions you made with the international property maintenance code. Thank you for that personally. We really thank you. But we need to take a book, a page from the book of Dick Carver, and that magazine was entitled don't tread on me. And I think it's important that you guys look it up and just read that article because this is what could happen where there's, you know, 250 armed residents ready to protect their land. And this is what we're dealing with in our rural area right now. So I just wanna say, you know, in no way am I going against the government. I I love my country. I fought for my country, and I will continue doing that. But, it's a really good article, and I think if everybody goes back to that time and just does a quick review of it, it'll remind you of a time like what we're dealing with now again. Thank you.
Voice Bhear it at 6:14:32
Thank you. Come on down, Mike.
Voice Hhear it at 6:14:38
Mike Fender, f e n d e r. Earlier this morning, somebody made a comment about the Amargosa Conservancy collecting a $120,000. Well, I kinda disagreed with that kind of an idea, and it wasn't lo and behold, I got a text from Kevin Amarick. He's with Basin and Range Watch. His wife and Susan Soros are really good friends. And I know Susan. She knows me. I know Kevin, I know his wife. And she he had bad he was adamant stating that they did not get the $120,000 like somebody once said they did. So I told Kevin that I'm gonna get up here and to and let you guys know that's what he told me, and I'm passing it on. And I believe him. I really do. Thank you. Thank you. Serena?
Voice Dhear it at 6:15:32
The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Lhear it at 6:15:39
Hi. This is Mark Dalton, m a r k a d a l t o n. Sorry. I know that everybody's tired and just wants to go, but I just felt that I I just needed to get this out. I this is for commissioners Koenig, Bain, Jabbour, and Strickland. This morning, I was a little taken aback at some of Chairman Boscovich's comments. I know nobody likes to talk about the data centers and everything, but his comments really struck a really hard chord with me. And so I'm gonna ask that I'm gonna request that each each one of you gonna ask you a question to see if one of you is willing to place an item agenda item on the next available agenda to review the Chairman's conduct during this meeting today, July 21, to preserve the records and just review it and consider, you know, his conduct and maybe censure or even possibly even up to and including maybe replacing him as the chairman because there's I believe that we should be fair and impartial in our conducts and in our in our manners. But, he's obviously made up his mind on how he's going to deal with data centers. And so I'd like to ask you each each one of you. What did I say?
Voice Bhear it at 6:17:47
Not true. That was absolutely untrue, sir. For sure. You need to read look back and watch the the comments that I made. I said that everybody needs to get the facts. But
Voice Lhear it at 6:17:59
I'm not I sorry for interrupting you. That that that you weren't going that no one was going to change your mind?
Voice Chear it at 6:18:11
Sorry. It's okay. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Well,
Voice Lhear it at 6:18:17
please please review it and and I'll I'll be happy to to come to the next meeting and and apologize to you in person if if if you find that that I am mistaken. You are mistaken.
Voice Bhear it at 6:18:30
Okay. You got anything else? Mister Dalton? Okay. Mary Anne, go ahead.
Voice Jhear it at 6:18:40
Mary Anne Hollis, h o l l I s. Out of sympathy for you guys and you guys and myself. I'm gonna try to get this under a minute. Last year, Ron, you said couple of times you're not gonna recognize pahrump in five years. Mhmm. Remember saying that? Mhmm. I'm not recognizing it in one year since the time you said that. There's a Zen proverb that says, let go or be dragged. And my my daughter gave me that on a shirt and said, when are you, you know, sort of gonna give up on all this? You're like exhausting yourself. And I said to her, because if I feel that if I let go, I've let down many of the people for whom I speak, and I don't wanna do that. And now with all these hot topics coming at us from all angles, this there's just no excuse to not keep on fighting and not let go.
Voice Dhear it at 6:19:49
Thank you. Thank you. Serena, anybody else, please? Caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Mhear it at 6:19:58
Hello, commissioners. Can you hear me okay? Yep. Okay. Good. Bruce Johnson, j o h n s o n. I just wanna quote Supreme Court justice Neil Gorsuch on his concurrent opinion. Trump blames the slaughter. We have tolerated adventurous theories long enough. My god. Time to return all the way to the constitution. And I'd appreciate it if you mute your mic because that is very annoying. Too. So as we conclude today's meeting, I ask you to remember that every vote cast today will one day be come part of Nye County's history, and it might even come back to haunt some of you. The declaration of independence tells us that governments derive their just powers from the extent of the governed. The Nevada constitution declares that all political powers inherent in the people, and that government exists for their protection, security, and benefit in the whole. Those are not aspirations. They are limits on government. Supreme Court had repeatedly reminded us of those limits in The United States versus Lopez. The court returned to the first principles, reminding us that the federal government is one of enumerated powers and that constitutional boundaries exist to preserve liberty. Those same principles should guide every level of government, including county government. Today, we also revisited an important rule of jurisprudence. Court cases for what they actually hold, whether discussing both as cheap dough garner or has it. The lesson is the same. Laws built on the actual holding of the case, not our slogans or secondhand interpretations, and truth requires accuracy. That same commitment should guide this board. Before changing any development standards, before approving debt, before expanding surveillance, before facilitating projects involving solar fields, transmission corridors, or data centers, ask the first question, where is the authority? Authority precedes action. The authority is delegated, identify it. If rights are affected, protect them. If the public rate is concerned, answer them openly. Constitutional government is not measured by how quickly it can hatch. It's meant by whether it acts with the authority entrusted to it. Now I would like to remind mister chair Miguel, a year ago, August 11, during the last Purple Heart Valor, I approached you and Brett Wagner out the street and asked you what it would take to have a roundtable constitutional discussion. And you told me that you were not interested in doing so. Now since that, you've been into to the body politic, meaning the Nevada Republican Party, Nighthound of Republican Party's office looking for votes from people and everything. So I really I I would actually hope you reconsider, and this
Voice Bhear it at 6:23:07
Thanks. What's annoying is the AI speeches constantly,
Voice Dhear it at 6:23:11
but that's just my opinion. Serena, we got anybody else? The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.
Voice Nhear it at 6:23:21
Matthew Winterhawk, for the record, addressing this board as a body regarding the conduct of his presiding officer during today's public comment periods. Mhmm. I heard chair Boscovich repeatedly respond to residents who were opposing data center development with condescension, Specifically, stated early on, do we have data centers on this today? During the comment period, he has expressed tons of dissatisfaction, let's just say that, on a plethora throughout this entire day. I heard of them state also, if any of you think that you are going to change my mind, well, then good luck. And I do have that recording. So it's literally on record. It's recorded. I have it screen recorded right now. Commissioners are permitted to have opinions. They are not permitted to treat the public participation as theater while communicating that residents' evidence, experiences, and concerns are incapable of affecting the decision making process. The purpose of public comment is not to give officials three minutes to tolerate the public, mister Boscovich. It is to allow the public or people whose authority you exercise to inform, question, and petition the government. The chair is not the board. The chair has one vote. The gavel does not transform one commissioner's personal position into county policy, and it does not authorize the presiding officer to belittle residents for using the very process that this county tells them is available for them to use their voice. Today's conduct created the appearance and the opposition that these products will be dismissed before the evidence was ever even heard. That is your laxative attitude towards the constituents in which you are chosen to represent. The damages public confidence in every decision of this board makes concerning data centers, water, land use, and supporting infrastructure a very big concern for anybody moving forward with you as a chair. I'm therefore requesting that the commissioner direct we have one, two, three, four other chairs right there. I'm asking that Jabbour, Strickland, Koenig, and or Bain consider a formal censure and removal and replacement of chair Boscovich and appointment of a neutral presiding officer over all pending data center and related infrastructure matters. The chairmanship is authority delegated by this board. It can't be withdrawn by this board. When the chair uses that authority to discourage the public rather than protect its right to participate, the remaining commissioners have a duty to act on behalf of the public. So I'm asking the commissioners, once again, Koenig, Bain, Jabbour, and Strickland, will you sponsor and vote for an agenda item reviewing censuring and replacing chair Boscovich after his treatment of Nye County residents today? Yes or no? And also remember, silence is also an answer, and Nye County is watching you. Are you finished, sir? I'd also like to re well, I'd also like to request that the record preserve at 01:20 this afternoon when chair Voskovich announced a recess until 3PM. Members of the public audibly expressed, 03:00? And the chair responded, yeah. I didn't stutter or words to that precise effect, but, you know, I have to look at my recording. The recording will establish the exact language and recessed, obviously, procedurally permissible, but speaking to participants and residents as though they're surprised deserves ridicule is not the temperament Nye County should accept. Thank you.
Voice Ahear it at 6:26:24
Anybody else, Serena?
Voice Bhear it at 6:26:27
No, chair. Closing public comment.
25. Commissioners/Managers Comments (This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings. Lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law)
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Voice Ahear it at 6:26:29
Commissioner Bain, anything? No. Jabbour.
Voice Bhear it at 6:26:32
Commissioner Jabbour. Yes. Thank you, chair. I'm I'm disappointed no. That I know what they they they have other things to do. And rightfully so. Well, yeah, we have to we have to finish this. So I'm disappointed that our friend Mary Anne left because I love her quote, let go or drag, but but I don't smoke.
Voice Bhear it at 6:26:59
when I see Mary Anne, I will I don't know. Anyway, thank you everybody for today, for your patience with me and each other. And thank you for all of your input, those of you that are still here.
Voice Chear it at 6:27:13
And I hope you have a great rest of your evening.
Voice Ahear it at 6:27:19
Thank you, sir. Commissioner Strycula. I
Voice Chear it at 6:27:23
just wanna know if mister Winterhawk is actual
Voice Dhear it at 6:27:26
member of this community? No. He is not. I just don't understand. His declaration financial declaration. He has he could declare he's been the last ten years living in Clark County. So why does he want to call in and berate us and judge us on our little small town? Go miss Las your Clark County issue Go to Clark That's
Voice Chear it at 6:27:48
where you live. Thank you, d a. Thank you. Commissioner Koenig.
Voice Ahear it at 6:27:52
I have nothing. Thank you. Thank you. Mine will be really quick. I I will not sit here or anywhere else and be kicked in the head over and over and over, and people expect me not to fight back. That's not happening. I won't do it. And my comments stand. I stand by them from this morning. I use an analogy of if a shoe store is coming here, I want to know the positives and the negatives before I make a decision. Boom. And then I read a text that I was screenshotted showing somebody that said, don't want any facts. I don't want to know anything about a data center. I don't want it. So that to me is ignorance, and the people that want to fight all the time are just ignorant. There's 30 people that have a problem and wanna bitch and complain about everything. The other 50,000 here are normal, and I stand by that too.