August 18, 2026

Voice Ahear it at 0:06:08

And we are gonna open number two, please. And decorum. I'll mention decorum, but the way that's gonna work is if anything's off topic, you're cut off. And if you're out of line, you're rejected. Go ahead, please.

Voice Bhear it at 0:06:23

My name is Betsy, b e t s y, Lilly, l I l l y. I want to donate the rest of my time to Bruce Johnson. Thank you. It doesn't work that way. I'm sorry. Thank you. Are

Voice Ahear it at 0:06:36

Are you timing? We okay over there? Oh, you're fine. Come on down in front, please. Two minutes, sir.

Voice Chear it at 0:06:52

Hello today. How are you? Good. Thanks. I wanted to start by saying thanking mister Boscovich. Every time I've always had to deal with you, you've always been cordial and polite. Thank you for that. You're welcome. Okay. So to start out is that, you know, I'm always here to help, and I don't have much time today. Obviously, I have one minute less, I gotta say it a little bit faster. It's what's going on right now is not right. You know? I mean, the way that the we have a 78% higher crime rate than the national average. I'm sorry. We'll stop your timer, but can you spell your last name, please? B u t l e r, Extra Service. So we have a national, the the national average is 78% higher just in Pahrump alone than the, and it's because of how we're prosecuting people. And we're prosecuting people the wrong way because the we're not actually reading the laws. And then the the also, with the problems with the justice court is is they're finding people guilty without proof that you guys just found somebody two days ago guilty of running a business just because he owned a tow truck. You know? And then you guys are prosecuting a woman who has, for coding compliance stuff, who has brain, she has brain tumors. She had a legal note saying that she can't stand in court. She can't find a lawyer right now. I don't know what to do. You know? I mean, we've there's a lot of people that can't defend themselves in court. There's many people out here that can't defend themselves. They they don't know the law. They can't read it. They can't understand it. And from what I'm understanding is is that, you know, when I'm reading the motions and I'm reading the everything, that that they're saying that, well, there is no supremacy between local and state. Local can do whatever they want. And then and they'll and they're only reading the parts of the laws that actually that actually benefit them. But if it benefits me and I tell them, hey. This law says this and it benefits me, oh, shut up. You're a sovereign citizen. You know? I mean, we have to start reading the laws better because all we're doing is bringing up the crime rate. Pahrump is not getting any better. Knott County is not getting any better, and it's not right. Because I even talked to the justice I mean, some of the public defenders, and they can't even get public defenders to do their jobs right because they say they have to plea because they have 400, claims on their desk. It's not right what we're doing. It needs to be looked at. Mean Thank Jerry. Thank you very much, sir. Please feel free to text me or email me those names of those two people, and I'll look into it.

Voice Ahear it at 0:09:08

You just text me. Okay. Anybody on the phone, please, Sam.

Voice Dhear it at 0:09:12

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Fhear it at 0:09:24

Good morning, commissioners. Lorraine, g I l b e r t. Once again, I'm sorry I'm not there with you in person. I just wanna give a shout out to Ken Koenig for the update at the region Toronto Regional Planning Commission meeting that he and congressman Hertzberg are working or in the process of working with the, US Army Corps of Engineers on behalf of the utility challenge block. Thank you so much, and I hope you will continue, John. We're counting on you to do that. Today, I know you've got a full full full house. I just would hope that you would listen to the people, not roll your eyes, but listen to them and and take into consideration their wishes. And, again, please don't stop working on behalf of the utility challenged lot owners. It means so much to them, and it means so much to our account. And one of these days, I'll get back in front of you. But for now, that's what I wanted to say is, please, with everything else that you've got going on, this is the time to leave a legacy for some of you and the time to correct the path for some of you. So please don't give up on the, utility challenged glass owners. Thanks so much.

Voice Ahear it at 0:10:52

Thank you. Come on down up front, please.

Voice Ghear it at 0:10:57

John O'Brien, o apostrophe, capital b, r I e n. I wear many hats in this community, one I'm most proud of, labels integrity, honesty, trustworthiness. We represented the people. You as commissioners have the same duty. None of you are looking up at me. Why? I'm talking to you right now. You are literally representing this community. Solidarity, Union people back there? Yeah. You have a right to be here, but you're a little before the game. Taking seats up of Trump citizens who had a right to come in here and speak. You'll probably sit here all day.

Voice Ahear it at 0:11:47

Stop right now. You do it again. We're stopping this meeting until you Throw me out, Ron. Bye, John. Have a nice day. Peace. Peace, John. I'll see you on Facebook. Bye, John. You're out. We're not doing this today.

Voice Hhear it at 0:12:07

If it'd be okay I know you guys have read your agendas, excuse me, chair. But on the face of your agenda, the first thing it talks about is decorum. I've gotten some great emails from people that say, you know, if they feel threatened, they don't wanna come here and they don't wanna voice their opinion. They don't wanna appear that they're being they're acting like we don't have the right to all speak. We all have the right to speak. Can you please allow everybody to speak and let them say what they need to say and stop making it about an issue and let us do the process of representing you? I'm sorry, chair. I tried.

Voice Ahear it at 0:12:48

Go ahead. Go ahead, sheriff. I don't it's no. We'll wait. One more one more try. Come on down, sir.

Voice Ihear it at 0:13:01

Hi there. My name is Ramsey Devereux, d e v e r e u x. And as usual, I only come up here to remind everyone about that, what it says behind you. In God, we trust. And I'm trusting that y'all doesn't do the righteous thing. That and let you know that, you know, the world's going to pot. Everyone can see that now. It's no secret anymore. He's coming. The king is coming. And the only way to get into his family truly is to obey the 10 commandments. But there is no church that does so. You three and four are the hang ups, and I've got a card about that right here. You can get a list of the 10 commandments on the in the lobby and about his name. Yeah's name is it is Yeah. Hallelujah. Yeah. And in the in the pictograph language that it was, it's spelled out that he's behold the creator because it's the you create with your arm. It's a holy name that if you don't say it, you don't mean it. You trash it like that's what the third commandment says. Don't trash his name. Has nothing to do with cussing. Then you got a chance. Then maybe I'll see you again because I doubt I'm coming back anymore. We're we're that close. So God bless you all.

Voice Ahear it at 0:14:21

Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:14:25

Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ehear it at 0:14:33

Morning. My name is Heather Marquez, m a r q u e z. And, first and foremost, I'd like to thank you commissioners for, hearing our petition recently to delay the opening of the Simpkins Splash Pad, and thank you for ensuring that our children are safe in that regard. I'd like to speak a little about that and the larger issue of the oversight of our parks and recreation project. As you know, before the scheduled grand opening and ribbon cutting, members of our group raised serious concerns about the facility, including safety issues and the complete lack of shade. We asked that the opening be postponed, and thankfully, you did postpone it. At that time, buildings and grounds mana Martinez stated that the shade was on order. Our group has since reviewed the expenditures, and we've been able to obtain for this project. Those receipts total approximately $310,000, as you're aware. After nearly three years and more than $300,000, we had a splash pad with no shade that wasn't ready for its own grand opening. And now before ever officially opening to the public, it's encountered serious issues with state health regulators. So residents deserve to know what happens now, what deficiencies were identified, who is responsible for correcting them, how much will that cost, and will my county taxpayers be expected to pay again? But I believe this situation points to a much larger problem. I recently learned that Nye County previously had a parks and recreation advisory board, which was dissolved. Today, we no longer have that additional layer of citizen oversight and accountability. This splash pad is exactly why we need one. Had a parks and recreation board been reviewing this project throughout the process, asking questions about design, safety, shade, expenditures, timelines, and regulatory compliance, these issues would have been identified long before a ribbon cutting was ever scheduled. This is not about attacking one county employee. It's about the fact that no single employee Thank you very much, miss Marquez.

Voice Ahear it at 0:16:40

Come on down, sir.

Voice Ihear it at 0:16:44

Hi. My name is William Grubel, g r u b e l, and I'd like to address the elephant in the room. When

Voice Ahear it at 0:16:53

it comes to data center Hopefully, sir. We got to wait till the next item. Till seven. Sorry. That's okay. I apologize. Come on down, Diane.

Voice Bhear it at 0:17:07

Diane Southworth, s o u t h w o r t h. This is community outreach time. Just wanted to let you know that I was so pleased to see that we had school counselors zoom into our meeting on this last meeting, wanting to do things to help the community and help our kids. And, I'm very, very pleased, and we're trying to get some things going so that we can keep these kids busy and away from drugs. So, with that, let me go into Overdose Awareness Day is August 31. It's great. There's an event being held at the Methodist Church. It's, free lunch for the first 50 attendants, and, it's being held August 31 between two and five. We have a now a group in town called Dementia Friendly Nevada, and their meetings are on the fourth Thursday from 10:00 to 11:30. You know about the how to dispose of drugs. We have Narcon training, Good Samaritan Act. We've got fundraising assistance for health exams. I've got a list of food pantries, the need a ride list, and alternatives for pain management. I'm really hoping that with this, we can get a group together that really wants to do something for our community and make this a better place to live. And anybody who wants to attend can zoom into our meetings

Voice Ahear it at 0:18:38

and hear what is actually going on. Thank you. Thank you, Diane, for the good work. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:18:45

Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Jhear it at 0:18:53

Hey. My name is Scott Conrad, c o n r a d, but I'm waiting for item number seven. Thank you, sir. Come on down, Marion. I mean, Linda. Sorry.

Voice Khear it at 0:19:06

Good morning. This is Linda Clark, c l a r k. I just wanna thank all the wonderful people for showing up today. We sure need you. Okay. All I'm gonna do right now, if it's okay with you, Linda Clark, c l a r k, is read something real quick like this is from the Ronald Reagan Library. And it says, the care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only object of good government. And guess who wrote that and how long ago? Thomas Jefferson. Boy, did he have insight. That goes along with government for the people by the people. Remember that, please. Thank you. And I have a gift for all of you later. I will leave them later on the desk. Thank you.

Voice Dhear it at 0:19:58

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ehear it at 0:20:07

Renee Wallace, w a l l a c e. I'm calling because a widow and a disabled veteran, and I've suffered financial loss due to the purchase of a utility challenged lot. I'm unable to sell the land to an unsuspecting buyer by conscience, yet required to pay taxes for unusable property. And my opinion is that when the county treasurer auctions these lots that they are creating victims, I submit it is unethical for the county treasurer to sell these lots at the auction. And I ask the board of county commissioners or is the board of county commissioners or any other governing body or agency working to prevent those sales in the future? Thank you. Thank you. Come on down in front, please.

Voice Lhear it at 0:21:07

Good morning, fellow residents. Before my time starts, can I ask a quick question? Oh, I'm sorry. Angelina Jackson, j a c k s o n. Yes, please. In regarding if I have bringing, a matter of ethics to to somebody's attention, whose attention would I bring it to, and is this a proper time? Well, this is your time. You can talk about whatever you want. Well, I just wanna make make sure because it was announced earlier that, you know, if you guys felt that something is improper that will be, you know, stopped. So I just wanna make sure that before I begin. Ma'am?

Voice Ahear it at 0:21:43

Please go ahead.

Voice Lhear it at 0:21:46

Well, let's we'll we'll begin here with you, miss Strickland missus Strickland. I have already you you guys will all receive one. I'm sorry. But due to technical difficulties, I don't have the the hard copy. As you all have received a email from me regarding the the zoning and the committee it was under. And, mister DeBoer, I apologize that I didn't address you in that. Take it as a compliment that, you know, out of that your name wasn't in there because I I don't hear nothing bad about you. And I almost forgot Ian as well. So you you will also be receiving an email requesting that miss missus Strickland recuse herself due to conflict of interest, due to having a water well drilling business, and also being a water rights broker. And, also, you'll be receiving an email requesting a change in the departure from here from from this from the board that you will be asked to sign a contract stating that you cannot work for any data center or anything like that for two years. Okay? Because we're not gonna have a chance of a mister Tim Sutton happening. You guys don't respect anybody that's speaking unless it's something that you wanna hear. I guess it's your way of trying to, you know, ignore us and maybe we'll go away. That might work on some people. And as I mentioned before, mister Boscovich,

Voice Ahear it at 0:23:19

my facial expressions Thank you. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:23:24

Yes. Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 0:23:33

Yes. I'm on phone. P

Voice Ehear it at 0:23:36

e p e l p l e. I come in the peace and love of Jesus Christ as one of the people's third years who hold all political power. The fundamental principles of American law begin with the proposition that the constitution is the supreme law of the land and that the people retain their god given rights. The people's rights opens with the first amendment protections of speech, assembly, extend the petition, and closes with the ninth and tenth amendments, affirming that the people retain enumerated rights, that the powers not delegated remain with them in the safe, and those rights cannot be abrogated. Nevada's constitution, article one, section one, recognizes the inalienable rights. Section nine protects liberty of speech. Section 10 secures the assembly and petition. Section 20 confirms the rights retained by the people. The maxim of the law comes to states gathers centuries of accepted principles. The law the rule the law is the rule of right. Higher authority controls the lower. Rights exist under independent statute and none are not extinguished by any ordinary legislative regulation. That means your ordinance is no good. These maxims align with the constitutional structure. When the Nevada law creates public comment period, it does not create an underlying right to to speak. It opens a form in which which preexisting constitutional right may be exercised. Reasonable viewpoints, mutual limits on on time, place, and manner are permitted so that meetings may proceed orderly. They may not be used to abridge the liberty of speech itself. Please be clear, when you don't follow that, you are committing an unofficial act if you have no immunity. That's under Trump versus United States. Those statutes can compel the people to relinquish the protections of the First Amendment or now Nevada's declaration of rights. The demand for the name or when mutually applied, serves order. It does not convert the constitution of liberty into a mere privilege subject to the discretionary withdrawal. Ma'am. Thank you. Come

Voice Ahear it at 0:25:37

on up, please.

Voice Nhear it at 0:25:44

Okay. My name is Nancy Yanda, y a n d a. And I know we're here about the data centers, but we also need to be concerned about the medical waste. They're trying to build one right across the street from the DMV. We don't need a medical waste in Pahrump. We need to ban it along with the data centers. And the other thing is, why is it that the data people are getting people's talk We about the data right yet, please. No. But why are people getting phone numbers from people and texting them? That's not right.

Voice Ahear it at 0:26:33

Thank you. Sam, anybody, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:26:38

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Oh, they hung up. No chair. Come on down, sir.

Voice Ohear it at 0:26:46

Good morning. Mark Mulhall, M U L H A L L. Here on behalf of the applicant for DA two fifty five, Item nine.

Voice Ahear it at 0:26:57

We can't till that item, sir. Okay. Sorry. Okay. We just wanted to request if that could be opened earlier for the hold of that item. Well, you see, that's how we end up with these problems because people have to go somewhere, people have to do something. So I try to accommodate, and then we get in trouble. Come on down, please. So there's no winning. Yep. No winning.

Voice Phear it at 0:27:22

Hi. My name is Diane Sauter, s a u t e r. And, you know, I've been here twelve years and I cannot believe what's going on right now. My biggest disappointment and concern is the the corruption that has been allowed to continue on and on and on. And the other thing is I'm concerned about is, Deborah, in one hand, you tell people that you are for the data center. In the other hand, you tell people that you're not. So to me, you're not believable in anything. I know, Ron. I know. This this I don't believe that this should go to a special election because of

Voice Hhear it at 0:28:08

the mic, please. Thank you, chair. We're gonna tell you twice now. You're not supposed to be I gotta cut you here. Can't say I'm talking about the special election agenda that item.

Voice Ahear it at 0:28:19

Jesus. Sam, you got anybody, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:28:23

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Fhear it at 0:28:30

Hi. My name is Andrea Coughlin. I'm calling on behalf of Grump Mother's Corner. Please spell it. I recently learned that. Okay. C o u g h l I n. Thank you. K. Sorry. We recently learned that Nye County previously had a Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, which was dissolved. And today, we no longer have that additional layer of citizen oversight and accountability. We really have a problem with so many decisions that Jimmy made just and, again, not an attack on him, but it just is a lot of projects for one person to oversee. And the splash pad specifically is exactly why we need a parking rec board. Had we had a parking rec board, reviewing this project through the whole process, asking questions about design, safety, shade, expenditures, timeline, and regulatory compliance. These issues could have been identified long before the ribbon cutting was ever scheduled. So today, on behalf of Crown Mother's Corner, we're formally asking this board to place the reinstatement of the Parks and Rec Advisory Board on a future agenda for discussion and possible action. We really need answers about what happened with those flashbacks, and more importantly, we need to be able to make sure that it cannot happen this way again. Projects involving hundreds of thousands of dollars deserve deserve multiple sets of eyes, public participation, and meaningful oversight.

Voice Ahear it at 0:30:04

Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Qhear it at 0:30:10

Dara Lackey, l a c k e y. You see my shirt? It says, Us versus them. The only one of me, so the one Us, it's just me. But I'm hoping there's some Uss behind me that I got an idea. Remember I told you I was gonna keep coming up with ideas? Because I came up with that I'm talking, sir. Oh, I guess it don't matter you. But remember I came up with the idea how to end homelessness and poverty, which would end crime in our community. But you guys don't wanna do it because, you know, you're you're working for the New World Order. You know, you do whatever they want. So as far as data goes, why don't we have a newsletter that has data on you five? Like, whether your state of your secretary of state information is true with what you really have. It would be great if we had a newsletter on the five of you, like addresses you own, businesses you own. I'm inviting people to do this because me, I'm just one us. It's just me. But out there, there's some us's. And lots of people are tired y'all. I like to talk south sometimes because sometimes y'all is is the way people understand it. You know, years ago, this used to be on TV on a local channel. And my friend, he says he says, oh, they took the meetings off of TV because of you. I'm what are you talking about because of me? Oh, because you're going in there and, you know, chewing them out and stuff. You know? I said, wow. Is it could that be true? Could I be that powerful? No. Is it? I don't know. But I tell you what, I'm getting younger every day. I stopped eating dead animal and cow mucus and chicken embryos. You guys are all filled with with parasites, and you're making decisions over our lives. You either got a sick pack or you got parasites, my friends. That's the reality of it. And we got people they don't care about. You don't even care about yourselves making decisions on other people. Tick. Tick. Tick. Tick. How how close do I got? Do I have another whole minute? Let's see. There's so many things to talk about. You're done. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? No, chair. Come on down in front, please.

Voice Rhear it at 0:32:21

Good morning, commissioners. Stacy Edwards, EDW ARDS. I come from a big union political fraternal organization, and military families. I personally was in local twenty two in Boston, laborers, and eight seventy two Las Vegas. I've attended a lot of these meetings where I had no business attending because I was told by the union and family to attend these meetings and to support or oppose whatever they wanted. Today, I stand before you. I don't hold my book anymore. Today, I stand before you unbound by anyone. My soul is mine. Doesn't belong to anyone. So anything that I speak on today is my of my own accord. Miss Strickland, you mentioned earlier that you'd like us to follow the agenda and, obtain to the decorum. I'd like to point something out on the agenda. Public comment during the commissioner's meeting on 08/18/2026 will be for all matters off the agenda and limited to up to three minutes per person. Just wanted to point that out up to three minutes. So if we're gonna follow the agenda, maybe we should follow the agenda.

Voice Shear it at 0:34:14

Thank you for that. Mr. Chairman, may I address this Go ahead. Clarify. And I just want to clarify because I I don't I want to avoid any potential problems. We have modified the rules to accommodate the number of people here. So they that is within the rules. We, we are governed by the rules that we vote for at the beginning of the session. The reason why we don't, if you have a question, really the better thing to do is to ask one of the staff if you have a question. We, we, if we start engaging in kind of back and forth, then we're, we're creating legal problems where we're answering to some people and not others, and then there's sort of, you know, an issue there. So I I just wanted to sort of not defend anything, but just explain that there it's a very complicated thing. It's written down, And I'm I we are able to modify those. So I'm sorry that you I know Tony Peaney over there at the Laborers, by the way, I organized with him back in Boston. But I I just wanted you to know that this is not done to frustrate anyone. I I I don't believe that at all. I think it's just done so that we can get everybody's opinion in. Thank you, mister chairman.

Voice Ahear it at 0:35:15

Thanks. Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Thear it at 0:35:20

Good morning, everyone. And I'd like to welcome all the union guys back here. Can you spell your last? Bruce Johnson, g o h n s o n. And I'd also like to declare, I believe, two minutes and fifty five seconds of reserved time, left for me. Right? So we're gonna be speaking here for five minutes and fifty five seconds. Correct? You have two minutes, whatever's left of that, sir. This is a notice to you guys, all of you. Alright? Notice the agent knows principal, and knows principal is no station. And this notice is actually titled, demand to cease and desist violating the people's property rights. And I, Bruce Johnson, has seen it in the 50 state constitution has come to you as a jury jurist, one of the, one of the people do present you this notice as my right to petition for redressing grievous that you provide immediate due care by necessity to those with all political power, the people back here. Okay? Please take notice that the people have assembled and realized the Nevada constitution is supreme law of the state superior to all legislations, statutes, regulations, and codes. All political power is inherent in the people who are endowed by the creator with inalienable rights that they exercise in the private, which cannot be violated. The government possesses no authority except that which is specifically delegated by the people through the United States and Nevada constitutions. Any power not delegated is reserved to the people back here, all these people here. K? Where in the Nevada or US constitution does the people grant our servants the authority to deprive us of our inherent constitutional right to property? You can see evidence below. And by the way, you'll all have this in the inbox before you know it here. This is an update from the one I sent you emailed you guys earlier a few days ago, and I want you to to just disregard that one there because I simplified the whole thing so that you guys don't break your brains. So the Nevada constitution

Voice Ahear it at 0:37:23

Sam, do we have anybody else on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:37:29

Call. Chair. What?

Voice Ahear it at 0:37:31

You have none. Come on down, ma'am. Come on down, ma'am. And sheriff, anybody that you see needing to be removed, please feel free. Good

Voice Uhear it at 0:37:46

morning, board. JoLynn Howard, HOWARD, District 4 resident for over twenty five years. I just wanna remind the board that you represent the people here. You do not re represent interest special interests, not unions, not companies, not financial gain, but we the people. The people of Perrupp, do not let people intimidate you. The silent majority is standing up now. For years, you've had people not a lot of people in your meetings, and now you're seeing the repercussions of what is going on in this town. People are tired of it. I encourage every single person who lives in here in Pahrump who's going to stand and talk today to make sure that they notify what district you're in. And if you want to, how many years you've been here, although that is irrelevant because everybody who lives here has just as much right to speak.

Voice Ahear it at 0:38:44

Thank you. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? Now, chair. Come on down in Pahrump, please.

Voice Vhear it at 0:38:55

Good morning, chair and commissioners. My name is Allison Pharr, p h a r r. I'm a community organizer with Solar United Neighbors, Sun of Nevada. Sun is a nonprofit organization that provides unbiased education and technical assistance regarding solar energy. We're non nonpartisan. This is not about large scale. This is not Thank you. About We're about, we're nonpartisan and installer neutral. Our goal is to simply help people understand their solar options and make informed decisions about their family, their wallet, and how to avoid solar scams. So the reason, so we believe that everyone has the right to energy independence and freedom. And here in Southern Nevada, with our abundant sunshine, our lack of gas and coal resources, solar just makes sense. So I want to make a public service announcement. We'd like to let the residents of Pahrump and the board know that we are running a program that's called Switch Together. Switch Together is a solar buying program that helps homeowners save 15 to 20% on home solar and or battery systems. A trusted third party screens and selects and highly bets the installer. The installer this year is Sola, and there's no cost to apply. Homeowners can simply fill out an online application and receive an estimate within minutes. There's lots of financing options. The program is open and running until October. So if anyone is interested in exploring their home solar and battery storage option options make sense for their family, I have information about that. I have flyers here. And unfortunately, the program is only open to Pahrump residents right now, but we really hope to be able to run this program again throughout Nye County in the coming years. So thank you so much for your time and service to Nye County. Thank you. Come on down, Mr. Pittman.

Voice Whear it at 0:40:47

Good morning, commissioner. Steven Pittman, p I t m a n. Two items. Number one, would you consider getting a two faced clock that you could see and that we could see that would count down our time? And number two, would you reconsider having town based trash pickup curbside that everybody pays for, everybody gets trash pickup? That would decrease the amount of garbage on the side of the road. I know I know that was discussed a dozen or so years ago, but, apparently, it was not considered. I think it's time to reconsider that.

Voice Ahear it at 0:41:23

Thank you. Thank you. I think that's a good idea. Come on down, Dwight.

Voice Xhear it at 0:41:28

Dwight Lilly, l I l I l I. Wanna speak on a couple items. One was the the park situation. Commissioner Bain has been posting videos of Patrick Park, and it's an absolute disaster down there. As a senior citizen, I can't use the park because it's full of drug addicts, alcoholics, criminals, homeless people wandering around the park, there doesn't seem to be anything do done about it. I brought this up maybe a year and a half ago, and it seems like it's a continuing problem. So I wish the commissioner would do something. On another park, I went out and checked out the splice pad after I went to a meeting on Thursday. Frankly, I didn't see anything wrong that much with the splice pad other than somebody was grinding all the paint off of the bottom of it. I didn't see where it appeared to be an unsafe situation. And, then I found out that the health department has shut it down for why I have no clue. It didn't look like it was infringing about the street. It didn't look like there was any problem out there. What it looks like is we again don't have a splice pad for the public here. So parks need to be addressed by the county commissioner. The second thing is it is a nightmare driving in Perham. We were nearly t boned by a guy that cut through the park Bank of America parking lot from McDonald's and pulled right out in front of me. If I hadn't slammed the brakes on, I came this close to getting t boned by the guy. The sheriff department has asked for motorcycles, for motorcycle cops. We can spend $300,000 on a splash pad that doesn't work, but we can't protect the public from the idiots that are driving out here. I wish you would fund those motorcycles for the motorcycle cops so I and my wife could drive safely through PrEP without fear of getting murdered out here by people that do not know how to drive and do not obey the laws. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:43:27

Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Jhear it at 0:43:34

Morning. This is Tim Bohannon, b o h a n n o n, coming to you live from District 5. I am the secretary of Nye County Park and Recreation Advisory Board. So Nye County Park and Recreation Advisory Board is not associated with the town of Prump Park And Rec. So I just wanna make sure everyone in the room has that distinction. We are a functioning board, and the site that we oversee up in Carver's handles radio and drop shooting primarily. And we also have a community development block grant for over $250,000. So, you know, functioning boards can be a good thing. So, you know, I'd kinda speak to a little bit of the prompt parking rec. It was a good thing when I was there. Still gonna be a good thing now. Net oversight's helpful. On a separate note, just making everyone aware, high school is back in in service. If you are a sports fanatic, which I am, the football season has kicked up already here in Perham and elsewhere. And it's don't forget to go take a look at that. They generally pay Friday nights, check their schedule on max preps, and, you know, their starting times are generally seven, sometimes 06:00 based on based on travel. So I just wanna make people aware, a little bit of community service announcement, and have a great meeting. It's gonna be fun. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 0:45:17

Thanks, Tim. Come on down in front, please.

Voice Yhear it at 0:45:27

Meta waste, the solar fields, and and the data center. Those three things go up. It's on the Tony Hoverman, t o n I h o v e r m a n, District Number 5. Those things those three things go up, the perimeter of this valley. You people are gonna cook all of us. Now I don't need two two minutes to say this, but I'm just gonna let you all know. This data center goes in, there's gonna be an automatic 30,000 people pissed, and I don't know how many of them carry.

Voice Ahear it at 0:46:09

I'm just letting you all know that. Is that a threat, ma'am? You can leave now. Goodbye. Another threat. Sheriff, please keep track of these folks that are make making threats.

Voice Ahear it at 0:46:25

Miss Hoverman, you need to leave. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:46:31

Yes, chair. The caller is only mute. Please earring hold for the record. What the hell is wrong with you people?

Voice Ehear it at 0:46:43

me. My name is Beth Murphy. Excuse me. M u r p Excuse me, ma'am.

Voice Zhear it at 0:46:48

Ma'am, can you can you hold on, please, ma'am? Hold your time, please, commissioner.

Voice Zhear it at 0:46:54

Yes. Cheer through the chair. Oh, please. Chair, we had one commenter, one commenter who made a comment, okay, and it's not all of the people that are here in chambers that are saying those things publicly to us or to the crowd. So please, if it's one individual, you've asked her to to excuse herself, the sheriff to excuse herself, The people here are being respect and the decorum is here. And I would ask that we're not going to to reverse it and attack the the public that's here, sitting here for one person that's saying something. Commissioner?

Voice Zhear it at 0:47:40

Commissioner? We're we're not supposed to applaud folks. Now you're gonna get me in trouble.

Voice Ahear it at 0:47:44

Commissioner? I appreciate that, and I agree with you on that. Last meeting, there was a gentleman who also made a threat to take me outside. Online, there are threats all over the place telling people to arm themselves. And if we don't do what they want, that's what they say they're gonna do. Really?

Voice Zhear it at 0:48:08

I I I understand, chair. I'm just asking. Let's let's please keep the agreement. They're they're being respectful and

Voice Ahear it at 0:48:17

perfect. Go ahead, sir. Thank you. Imperium. I'm sorry. I gotta do the caller first. You can come up, though. Can you hear me? Yes. I'm sorry. Go right ahead, ma'am.

Voice Ehear it at 0:48:30

Hi. My name is Beth Murphy. That's m u r t h y, District 2. I've been in Nevada since 1988. I bought my house over in Pahrump in thirty two years ago in 1994. I have been doing extensive research on the data centers that are going on going on all over the country. I can't talk about data centers yet, ma'am.

Voice Ehear it at 0:49:01

Just just I just needed to get my 2¢ in.

Voice Ahear it at 0:49:06

Okay. Thank you. Down, please.

Voice A2hear it at 0:49:13

Hello. My name is Terry Johook, h o o k. I have a couple things, I wanted to address, which was one, that we, the people, are demanding a recusal of the chairman, Yu Ron, and the county manager, Brett. Corporate filings link chairman Boscovich and county manager Wagner directly to shared commercial operations via Pacific Tread LLC because they maintain shared residential infrastructure and commingled finances. They hold a shared financial interest. While their daughter, who is the assistant district attorney, Ronnie Boscovich,

Voice Ahear it at 0:50:01

should also be Excuse me. DA? Are we going with this? Recusal

Voice A2hear it at 0:50:07

for all for the votes today. And

Voice Ahear it at 0:50:11

I and I don't wanna lose my time because Your time is paused. Okay. So I'm asking the DA for an opinion on whether or not my family has anything to do with this meeting. She's she's registered on your business, sir. No. She isn't, ma'am. I have it right here. It's not there, ma'am.

Voice Shear it at 0:50:32

Mister chairman, people have come across accusing me of having tax liens that I don't have, numerous ones including staff. So I don't know how this is any different. Thank you, sir.

Voice B2hear it at 0:50:41

I don't wanna check it. Let let me just state this. No. They were. This has nothing to do with any matter that comes before this board. This is a matter that needs to be addressed within the ethics commission Yes, please. If you have those concerns. So the only thing that's appropriate are things within the jurisdiction of this board, and they have no this board has no jurisdiction over those issues. So we're not allowed to request recusal when Please

Voice Ahear it at 0:51:02

file a complaint.

Voice A2hear it at 0:51:04

Please. Okay. Another one. Well, I hope you don't vote today. Oh, I will be. Oh, of course, you will be. Yes. Thank you. Your time is up. Sam? No. I didn't. Please. I didn't finish. You used my time, and I wanna finish. Oh, okay. As long as you can keep it on track. Well, recusal for Deborah Strickland. Same

Voice B2hear it at 0:51:23

thing. Again, this is not germane to any item that comes within the jurisdiction of the board. It's not appropriate public comment.

Voice Ahear it at 0:51:29

It's conflict of interest big time. We are moving on to the next commenter, please. And anybody on the phone? You're responsible to Cut it.

Voice Dhear it at 0:51:40

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ahear it at 0:51:55

I don't think you're on.

Voice C2hear it at 0:51:59

The button the green button? Thank you. My surname is Noyes, n o y e s. Everybody calls me Michael by my given name. So let's lighten up things a little bit. Wow. Some tension here. Not a problem. Well, we're we made up some t shirts here. We are not course selling them. Apparently, someone tell them, yeah, I couldn't sell, but that's okay. The First Amendment said I can ask for donations and give these out. This of course, so some of you are already wearing them. And so again, their donation suggested $10 If you want to give more, that's good. This goes to a church, not a, or a prophet. And again, this is going to be an interesting day. And also, for Mr. Brian Kunze, I'd love to donate one to you. Thank you very much. Please wear it with pride. Thank you very much. I yield back the rest of my time. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone please? Mr. DEA, what size is that please?

Voice Ahear it at 0:53:02

And you better make a financial disclosure

Voice Hhear it at 0:53:07

Could sew into another show.

Voice Ahear it at 0:53:09

Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:53:12

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ehear it at 0:53:19

Morning, everybody. Beth Borisovich. I intended to be there, but, my car radiator blew up. Hey,

Voice Ahear it at 0:53:31

Can you spell it? Last

Voice Ehear it at 0:53:33

name, b o last name, b o r y s e w I c h. Thank you. Everyone, please listen because you need to hear this stuff. You're welcome. When residents stand before the board and speak, we expect you to actively listen, not look through us, not read your phone, not ignore what's being said. Local voices matter. Your your decisions affect our property, safety, development, and tax dollars. Transparency and open dialogue build trust. Ignoring residents destroys it. Mary Anne Hollis and I have repeatedly tried to get answers on the splash pad and other items. I called and got the health inspector to come down and inspect the splash pad. I could not see any child in that area and get hurt, scratched, or broken anything. When I asked for information, I kept getting a runaround. I even went to public records asking for credentials of mister Martinez, and they said there are none. He has no experience, long term experience in project management. So when the health department came down here, they closed the FlashPad because there was no health permits, no inspection reports, no drawings, no applications to the health department or safety department, and we still wanna know where the heck the $19,000 came for the fencing that we didn't even talk about that Martinez threw up because he didn't want desert dirt in there. We wanna make our position clear. We want all work to stop at the splash pad, period. Thanks, ma'am. We spoke to the Thank you.

Voice D2hear it at 0:55:31

Hello. My name is Jade Vanderbeek, v a n d e r b e e k. I'm a resident of Pahrump for twenty five years, and I just wanted to come up here and say, encourage everyone to state how long they've been in Pahrump because as the last caller said, local voices matter, and those are the only voices that matter on this on these issues. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:55:58

Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 0:56:04

Yes. Amy Nelson, n e l s o n, District 2. I have to remind people that some of the things that they're thinking about, talking about really should not be county manner matters. They should be town manager manners. They should go on a town board meeting, not a county county meeting. Decorum is important on both sides. I've never seen such animosity toward the public as I have been witnessing the last couple of months. And it's purely animosity, and it seems to be retaliatory. I could be wrong, but that's what it appears to be. I don't like what people say about me, but I'm not in a position that you're in where you have to listen to what people think about you. They don't always have to talk about splash pads or what's going on. They can't tell you that they're not happy with what you're doing. They they absolutely are the public that is what you are supposed to be listening to. I hope it goes better, but whittling down to two minutes is is a bit extreme just because you don't wanna sit and listen to it. But I'll be listening to the rest of the meeting. Thank you. Come on down in front, please.

Voice E2hear it at 0:57:53

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Bond, Will Bond, b o n d. I just wanted to mention a article I saw on Facebook this morning. The Supreme Court of Ohio unanimously ruled in favor of residents in the village of Asheville allowing a citizenship referendum to challenge a local agreement for a controversial edge connex data center.

Voice Ahear it at 0:58:26

Oh. Well I'm sorry, Will. You've gotta wait till the next item. Or or don't talk about data yet. Yeah. Don't talk about data yet, please. It's nice to see you here. Oh, my pleasure.

Voice E2hear it at 0:58:37

Thank you. Thanks.

Voice Ahear it at 0:58:39

All right, Sam. Do you have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 0:58:43

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice F2hear it at 0:58:50

Yeah. My name is Matt Sadler, s a d l e r. First of all, wanna congratulate commissioner Jabbour for, being a voice of reason up there and then pointing to the fact that the decorum on this board has been going off the rails. Everybody in the crowd, see it. Please don't clap. Please don't show anything other than your robotic demeanor. Otherwise, you're gonna get yelled at by the sitting commissioner here. I just wanted to let everybody know, and I think you all know, you can see this, that the tempo has been set by the board from the beginning. There's been animosity. There's been agitation. But just know that they're setting the table for this, so don't walk into the trap. Clap quietly. Have a good meeting today. Otherwise, you're gonna be here and be penalized off and on by this chairman the entire day. So please behave yourselves in there so you can get through the meeting and then and keep your comments pointed and let them know today. Okay? Let them know what we're about. Thank you. Sam, do you have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ahear it at 0:59:47

I'm sorry. Right here in front of us. See how you are. Sorry.

Voice G2hear it at 0:59:52

James McCoy, MCCLY. I'm here to talk about the future of this wonderful community. I'd like for it to be a family friendly community all around. And one thing that I think that this place is missing that would make that happen would be all pedestrian and bike path network connecting north, south, east to west. And I actually have some information on it, you know, like what roads would be the best ones to come down, you know, north, south, east, west. It's pretty simple. Most of our roads already do it. How this works versus a line on the side of the road? I mean, really? Look at one sixty. We got a frontage road, and we put a line on the side of the road for bikes to be there in the middle of five lanes of car traffic. And 60 feet off to the side, there's all kinds of dirt and etcetera. So, anyway, that's what I wanted to talk about. Let's see what we can do about in the future, and I would love to work with anybody that would be interested. And the state has a commission for this also, and I can bring them in. And we can work on designing a all purpose, utilitarian, non dangerous way for people to commute through here. Ebikes, people now, the senior citizens are all ebike and all over the place or would be if they felt safe doing it. And once they leave Mountain Falls, it's good luck. Right? I would've rode my bike here today except I'm not that stupid. Other than that, if we can if we can think about something like that, right, kids getting to the parks, to the schools, people going to the stores, this is a a real nice friendly community idea. Hopefully, this happens. And one thing that would destroy it Thank thank you, Madison. Please

Voice Ahear it at 1:01:56

feel free to share your contact info with Serena or somebody so we know how to reach you. Come on down, please.

Voice D2hear it at 1:02:11

Hello. My name is Ruth Mathew, m a t t h e w. I just wanted to bring up, thought of of the problems of abandoned cars, trailers, and RVs, and other trunk vehicles get that gets dumped in our deserts or people don't have the means to get rid of them because they don't have a title. I've lived in other counties and towns where they had amnesty days where the sheriff would come down, check the VIN, and you'd get a pink slip to present to a junkyard or tow yard, and they would take off the take away the vehicles. I think this town would really, benefit from a program like that. Thank you. Thank you, and I agree with you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice H2hear it at 1:02:55

Hello, Bourne. I come to you as a child of God, serious as a child of God Can you please spell your serious last name

Voice Ahear it at 1:03:04

for the record?

Voice H2hear it at 1:03:06

Stephens, s t e v e n s. Thank you. You're welcome. Sorry about that. That's okay. I come to you as a child of God with the with the love of Jesus Christ, Sarah Jiras, as one of the people who hold all political power. The United States constitution is supreme law of the land. Article three declares that that this constitution and the laws of The United States made in perseverance thereof shall be the supreme law of the land, and the judges in every state shall be bound there thereby in anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary is notwithstanding. The First Amendment of the Bill of Rights protects the freedom of speech, the right of the people to peacefully assemble, and the right to petition the government for redress the grievance. These rights are fundamental. Nevada's constitution article one section nine affirms the same principle. Every citizen may speak freely, write, and publish his sentiments on all subjects being responsible for the the abuse of that right, and no law shall be passed to restrain or abridge the liberty of speeches or the press. Article one section 10 further secures the right of the people to assemble and petition for redress agreement. When Nevada legislators create the statutory right to public comment under an open meeting law, the full force of these constitutional protections attached. The attorney general's own manual recognizes that once the right to speak is granted, the full panoply of the First Amendment rights and the matter constitutional rights apply, statutes exist to implement, not override the constitution's fundamental principles of law, long recognized as collected in works such as Charles a Weisman complicate

Voice Ahear it at 1:05:01

Thank you very much. Come on down, of maximum of law.

Voice H2hear it at 1:05:06

Wow. You're rude.

Voice I2hear it at 1:05:09

Go ahead, ma'am. Good morning. Lisa Hemby, h e m b y. I'm in District 5, miss Strickland's district. We, the people, want responsible, desirable growth in our town and our county. We live in this wonderful rural town. We don't want Pahrump to become a industrial wasteland. Bruce, you claim to represent all of us. Ian actually does represent us. Please listen to your constituents and honor our wishes. And also, I might add, please protect Ash Meadows. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Dhear it at 1:05:51

Yes, sir. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Jhear it at 1:05:58

Hey. This is David Vanderbeek, v a n d e r b e e k.

Voice J2hear it at 1:06:08

I think we lost you, sir. Come on up in Pahrump.

Voice K2hear it at 1:06:15

Hello there. Oops. I have to stand on my tiptoes.

Voice J2hear it at 1:06:18

You can you can move it. Oh, sorry.

Voice K2hear it at 1:06:21

That's okay. Hi there. Hi, Ron. Thank you for the dog thing that you helped me with. I'm sure we talked on the phone. Thank you. My

Voice J2hear it at 1:06:30

wondering Can you please can you please spell your last name for the Sunny

Voice K2hear it at 1:06:34

Sinjem, s I n j e m.

Voice K2hear it at 1:06:43

want to know why we don't have a comprehensive recycling program in town here. I've tried to ask people. I went to the coalition four years ago, and they said there's not enough interest. Why is that? We need that. I mean, I don't know what else to say about it except we really need that. We need something where we can separate the glass from the aluminum from the paper. Mhmm. We had that in Oregon. We had that in Washington. I realize this is not the Northwest, and they run things differently there, but we can do that too. And why don't we? Anybody know? No?

Voice J2hear it at 1:07:19

That's I'll find out. Thank you. I'll find out on that. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice M2hear it at 1:07:26

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice J2hear it at 1:07:37

Come on down, Mary Anne.

Voice N2hear it at 1:07:42

Mary Anne Hollis, h o l l I s. Not to be confused with Linda. Linda. When the state inspectors reported that the splash pad was not authorized to remain in use For any reason, I expected that all further construction and possible changes in installments would cease until that report is produced. However, when I saw that work was being done on the pad surface since last week by an unrecognized vendor, I thought when does this end? In my opinion, a freeze on the 6,000 extra dollars for funding for fencing and,

Voice O2hear it at 1:08:18

don't unwrap those $12,000 umbrellas, no further work changes such as on the surface should ever have been considered. Was there a work order, approval by a vendor, a contract, a cost, funding sources? Nothing.

Voice N2hear it at 1:08:35

Why would manager Martinez approve this before receiving the final report for the issues and major changes? Who knows that that work on the pad will be useless because there is no five foot, apron around it. So just stop everything until that report comes in. And if there was a discussion between mister Martinez and the inspectors, that's hearsay at this point. The facts will be on the report. And I am not the only one to question the the credentials of this manager. The public records response to there are no documents responsive for his training, certification, licenses, job descriptions, qualifications, oversight supervision, you name it. And no documents is different from being exempt to disclosure. There's no paper trail, not written, not done. Excuse me, Mary Anne.

Voice M2hear it at 1:09:32

Hi. I'm so sorry. We've lost our phone system in chambers. So we'll have to just pause your time Oh, yay. I get this again. Do we

Voice J2hear it at 1:09:40

have to pause or no?

Voice M2hear it at 1:09:47

It's our phone system. We lost connection in chambers, so Serena just has to call back in. Oh. That just makes all that noise. Oh. Can we take them

Voice J2hear it at 1:09:57

Yeah. Morning, Maria. Go ahead. Commissioner has requested a break, so let's take ten minutes. Thank you.

Voice J2hear it at 1:15:34

That's what that's the problem.

Voice J2hear it at 1:16:04

Okay. Hopefully I didn't just run that speech all off. Right. Let's figure out where we were and start back up.

Voice J2hear it at 1:16:31

Alright. Let's go with public comment. I don't remember where we were or who was Mary Ann Hollis. Alright, Mary Ann. Come on up.

Voice P2hear it at 1:16:43

Two. Go ahead. Give her two.

Voice J2hear it at 1:16:46

Alright, Mary Anne. We interrupted you, so you got two minutes. Go ahead.

Voice N2hear it at 1:16:50

Mary Anne Hollis, h o l l I s. I don't remember where I was, so I'll keep it brief. No work should be continuing on that

Voice J2hear it at 1:17:00

what? No. I remembered now what you were talking about. Okay.

Voice N2hear it at 1:17:03

No work should be continuing on the splash pad until that report is out. The work that they're doing now may not even be appropriate to what the state wants. So it's wasted money, more wasted money. So put a freeze on the $6,000 for more fencing until what we know what the state says. Keep the umbrellas wrapped up because who knows if if anything else will change in that area. And my final comment was in response to a public records request for the credentials of the manager. There really are none. There are no documents for credentials, for oversight management, licenses, training, nothing. And keep in mind that this gentleman will be managing all of the facilities on the fairgrounds. You've been forearmed, forewarned that this cannot continue. This style of management is is unacceptable. And I'm happy to share the public records request with you. It there are no documents to support any of the requests, and that is far different from being protected on an on our an NRS code for disclosure. It's far different. So in my opinion, the moms are being too generous with their angst. I'd be furious. I'd be furious. And, you know, I've been at this since the groundbreaking since the groundbreaking. So I'm glad it's closed. There should be no further expenses or construction

Voice M2hear it at 1:18:55

going forward. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice L2hear it at 1:19:07

Hi. This is Shanita Kelly. I was just wondering what we what we are doing today.

Voice J2hear it at 1:19:13

I missed a lot of it. Can you spell your last name, please? I'm so sorry.

Voice J2hear it at 1:19:17

k e l l y. Okay. Go ahead. What's your question?

Voice L2hear it at 1:19:22

I was wondering where we are on the agenda. It cut out. I'm not sure where we are on the agenda. We're still in public comment,

Voice J2hear it at 1:19:28

but we're I've Oh. Yeah.

Voice J2hear it at 1:19:34

I'll wait. Thank you. Thank thank you very much. Come on down, ma'am.

Voice Q2hear it at 1:19:40

Carla Ely, e l y, district four, twenty two years. I'm sure that most of you or many of you, heard about the untimely death of a local citizen by side by side this past week in her own yard. Her fence was mowed down, and she was killed in her own yard. I would like to ask the board if there's some more local regulations that you can propose to try to keep these vehicles in check. I know there's an NRS code, and it says that they're only able to traverse public streets to go from private property to the open desert, which is constantly violated. I live off of Game Bird just just west of where this accident took place. I walk in that desert area twice a day, and I continually have to jump out of the way of these things blasting through the desert. And I know you can't control what goes on the desert, but these things roll down the edge of of GameBird off the pavement but on the dirt. And there's a couple times where I'm coming out of the tree line to cross Game Bird to go home, and I have to jump backwards because one of these things is flying down the side of the road. So I don't know what can be done about it, but something needs to be done about it. Thank you. Thank you very much. That was a horrible accident. Come on down, sir. My

Voice R2hear it at 1:21:13

name is Hart Fleischauer, f l e I s c h h a u e r. I'd simply like to point out that on the agenda, both items seven and eight mention the data center, but it's not clear which one is for the ban on the data center, which one is rezoning their property for the data center. I'd ask that before we have a discussion on that that we make clear which one is which so we know what we're talking about. And I'd also like to repeat that I will be announcing, how long I've lived in Pahrump and what, district I live in when I speak on this matter. And I ask everybody else to do the same. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice M2hear it at 1:21:56

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice O2hear it at 1:22:03

Yeah. It's David Vanderbeek, v a n d e r b e e k. Cut out. Say as far as can you hear me? Yeah. Go ahead, sir. I'm sorry. I can okay. Okay. David Vanderbeek, v a n d e r v e e k. I just wanted to say I have lived in Trump since 2006, and and I re respect whatever people's positions are on whatever issues we discuss. I just hope that we'll follow science today, not marketing, not tax revenue, not promises. If we could just follow scientific reports that are peer reviewed, published, I would really appreciate that. I my family helped on my on my mother's side, they helped settle Lincoln County, and they were there when they did the testing there. They had lots of weird diseases, blood diseases, digestive diseases. And the government and the corporations will just delay, deny until you die. So I just like us to follow the science. It'll it'll it'll be much better for our community long term. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. That's all. Thank you. Come on down, Tammy.

Voice P2hear it at 1:23:16

Tammy Pittman, p I t m a n. So recycling. We used to all be able to go to Walmart's parking lot and bring our our recycling, and it's gone. And I was told it was gonna go to the tourism area. Well, we've been driving all the way up to the landfill, and they said that they've not been able to get any joy with the county to come up with a plan and and come up with an agreement so that we can have a place to do our recycling. So I'm wondering if, we can make that sort of back on the on the agenda because it seems to have died.

Voice J2hear it at 1:23:51

Thanks, Samuel. Ask Mike. Come on down, sir. I thought I saw him.

Voice S2hear it at 1:24:01

Good morning. Thomas Santanastasio, s a n t a n a s t a s I o. I live in District 1. I'm here five years, but I purchased my home six years ago. I think we have a failure to communicate. I mean, I called the office and, like, the recycling center. Does anyone know where the temporary recycling center is? I was told it would be at Pet Rock, then I found out it's at the count right across from the county dump where that recycling center is. And the other question I have is, by the way, when will Pet Rock Park be sold? I heard that it's up for sale. I don't know if that's true or not. I also see work being done at 160 in the Ermance for the roundabout. I heard that when they did the 372 roundabout, it was estimated at 175,000. Final cost was over $2,000,000 Now this project is estimated at 3,000,000, and a traffic light would cost less than 500,000. So there goes 2 and a half million dollars. Also, this week, I paid my zombie lot taxes, and I was told by the clerk in your office because I wrote zombie lots in the memo section. She said it should be utility challenged lots. In either case, the land is still worthless. Now months ago, we had conducted a survey with the water district. I understand that the BOCC got a copy of the report. I don't know what the results as far as I could see, nothing's been done. Nothing been done. As a concerned Pahrumpian, I have open done my best to make potential purchases known to potential purchases. I called phase one. I went on social media. I even put up a stupid sign on 160.

Voice J2hear it at 1:26:03

Thank you, sir. Thank you. Three minutes. Two.

Voice M2hear it at 1:26:08

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice T2hear it at 1:26:17

I'm Birmingham, b I r m I n g h a m. As a father here in Prominent, my children and I were looking forward to the splash pad being built at the local park where we could play. We were excited to see the construction. However, that excited quickly ended, sorry, ended much quicker than it can begin. What was built was an insult to the community. There were dozens of splash pads in Las Vegas that could have been used as an example, but, apparently, that was too much work for good old Jimmy. These decisions cannot be left up to one person. This country was founded on the basis of checks and balances with three branches, not two. What we're left with right now is the BOCC and Jimmy, and that's not really working out for our parks and rec, apparently. What we need is the reinstatement of the advisory board so the people of Cabrat can have a say or at least be fully aware of where our time and money is being spent and accountability for our local government so they don't waste it. So what I'm asking for is this matter to be brought up on a future agenda so we can reinstate the Parks and Rec Board so our kids can have a safe and a functional place to play instead of the prison showers that we got. Thank you.

Voice J2hear it at 1:27:30

Thank you, sir. Come on down.

Voice U2hear it at 1:27:35

My name is Ron Mortinson, m o r t I n s o n, and I am also a a crime victim of this community. I never got a restitution hearing from the DA in my case, and Marcy's law says I should be able to get a restitution hearing. This last week, the sheriff arrested Eric Gentry. Eric Gentry is one of the two people that broke into my house and stole all my stuff. So I emailed the DA, telling him you've got Eric Gentry in custody. Get me a restitution hearing. And that's not gonna happen. He doesn't do his job. He doesn't get people restitution hearings. He needs to do his job.

Voice M2hear it at 1:28:15

Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice V2hear it at 1:28:24

Good morning, commissioners. Herman Lewis, l e w I s. I love the saying democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. I wanna thank all the commissioners over the years of taking time to talk to me. And recently, I've had a lot of good great communication with commissioner Bain, also Deborah Strickland. But I wanna put a special thank you to commissioner John Koenig who took my call. It was very short. But, John, I'm completely reassured in your position on protecting the people of Peru, and I wanna personally thank you for being the, you know, probably the guy with the spotlight on him today and going through until the end of the year. Looks like you're the swing vote and a lot of people are relying on you. I think you're gonna surprise all the people that have not been supportive. I'm one of them that supports you. So thank you for taking my call, John.

Voice J2hear it at 1:29:18

Come on down in front, please.

Voice W2hear it at 1:29:23

Good morning. My name is Julia Musall, m u s a l l. I've lived here twenty six years. First of all, I want to remind the commissioners that your primary oath is to the health, safety, and the welfare of the residents of Nye County, not the profit margins of outside developers. Courts across Nevada have routinely upheld that a county's police powers allow it to enact emergency measures to protect critical infrastructure and dwindling water resources. The most critical document Sutton signed before quitting was an official land and transmission authorization letter. This was done administratively. This allowed, him to continue without the knowledge and approval of BOCC. The master agreement contained clauses that allowed standard administrative adjustments to be processed directly by staff without returning to the BOCC for a vote every time a minor detail shifted. These infrastructures changes are massive. They go beyond minor details. He created the market for his future firm. Sutton actively built the very market he now profits from as a private attorney and consultant for Spring Mountain and Double m Construction. Sutton's signature effectively silenced the community by keeping it administrative. Our rights were taken away and legally sidestepped. Nevada has a cooling off period and mister Sutton was supposed to not be allowed to have anything to do with what's going on, for at least one year. And what miss Jackson had said, there is a two year

Voice J2hear it at 1:31:25

Thank you, Julie. Okay.

Voice W2hear it at 1:31:28

I timed it for three minutes last Sam,

Voice M2hear it at 1:31:32

do we have anybody, please? Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice X2hear it at 1:31:44

Can you hear me? Yeah. I'm calling Can you spell your name? Yes. It's f a l l I a n, m e n s a h.

Voice X2hear it at 1:32:01

And I'm calling about our this is an abatement hearing. Is Susan on the call? What? We've been in contact with her. Is an abatement.

Voice J2hear it at 1:32:11

Hello? Can you hear me? I think I think you might be on a different item. I think she called This is public comment at the Board of County Commission meeting?

Voice J2hear it at 1:32:26

Well, 1 885859008? I don't know. Come on down, Patricia. I don't know. She can call back.

Voice Y2hear it at 1:32:42

Good afternoon or morning, whatever. Patricia Robb, ROBB. I really don't have anything prepared, so I'm glad excuse me. Glad for that. I did wanna say that I keep a record of everything that's going on in regards to the utility challenge lots. I actually play back every recording, and anybody that is saying anything in regards to that, I make a note of it, summary, so that that way I know what's going on because this is a huge concern. It's been going on for five decades now. And these people pay property taxes, yet they can't use their lots. It just is total unfairness. And I know that supposedly the planning department is working on an overlay ordinance, which would be done on an individual basis, which is good. I hope they don't stop that. So I want to bring that to your attention so that you can work with them. I also want to remind you of some possible violations if it's not passed, and that's been going on for too long. Constitutionally wise, the fifth amendment could indicate that this is a regulatory taking with no use allowed. The fourteenth amendment is unequal treatment and denial of due process. Property law for the bundle of rights strips them away from every right that they have other than to sell. The state law NRS two seventy eight two five zero zoning no longer supports general welfare. State law NRS two seven eight five eight zero, denial of alternative energy friendly housing. State law SB one fifty, tiny homes not truly allowed in a zoning district. I know there was a district one time assigned,

Voice J2hear it at 1:34:45

but Thanks, mister the VR is still there. Thank you very much. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice M2hear it at 1:34:51

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Z2hear it at 1:34:58

Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, GARCIA. Can you hear me? Go ahead, sir. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Definitely nice to have the engagement, so I'll go ahead and spare you Leviticus 18 through 22 as well as Romans one through 26. I gotta get on topic, sir. Fixing

Voice T2hear it at 1:35:20

on topical. Yes. That's god, sir.

Voice J2hear it at 1:35:25

I didn't do that. Come on down, sir.

Voice A3hear it at 1:35:33

Good morning, commissioners. Ron Richardson, r I c h a r d s o n. Good morning, and I thank you for your service. I know you've got a difficult job. At the last board meeting, a comment was made that how do we know that the constituents here true truly represent the larger population of of of Pahrump. And I want to point something out that for standard industry, we look for 95% confidence with a 5% margin of error when you're doing political polls and surveys, etcetera. For medical research, very important stuff like medical trials, they expect a 9%

Voice M2hear it at 1:36:11

confidence level with a 1% Excuse margin me. I'm I'm sorry. We've dropped our call again. Yeah.

Voice J2hear it at 1:36:18

You can just give us a moment. No problem. I'm so sorry, Ron. It's alright. I don't know what's happening.

Voice M2hear it at 1:36:27

Okay. We're gonna take another break.

Voice J2hear it at 1:36:29

Yeah. Five five minutes. Let's do five.

Voice Y2hear it at 1:36:31

No. We don't need a break? We don't need a break. Okay.

Voice P2hear it at 1:36:37

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Voice J2hear it at 1:37:22

Okay. We're ready. Go back. Go right ahead, sir. No problem.

Voice A3hear it at 1:37:25

For a 99% confidence level with a 1% margin of error, this is used for medical research, medical trials where messing up is severe consequences. That's your range. Okay? So I wanted to point out that, for a sample size at 9595% confidence, 5% margin of error, you need 381 respondents for for a town of 50,000 people. For a 99% confidence level and a 2% margin of error, you need 3,841 respondents. I wanted to point out that mister commissioner, mister Ian Bain published this morning that 3,845 people have responded to his comment, and I'm not gonna say it. But the whole point I'm trying to say is you've got a 99% confidence level with a 2% margin of error. That's a slam dunk that you have all heard this community's thoughts on said agenda item yet to be covered. Thank you.

Voice J2hear it at 1:38:34

That was that was actually good.

Voice B3hear it at 1:38:36

Come on down in front, please. We'll get to set items. We'll We'll we'll get to set items some someday. Renee Jones, j o n e s. Everyone kinda knows me as the drug lady around town. Legal. But I just wanna let you guys know that we are expanding our services again. And, when I see a problem, I try to make a solution. The solution is now we are dealing with, assisting vets and some of the HOA communities. A lot of people don't realize, but a lot of, our elderly and vets have, disorders, painful disorders, debilitating. And, they need Narcan because they started having memory problems and they take their opiates in the morning. Then about noon, they're like, oh, I'm still hurting. Take it again. Now they can't breathe. So now we're going to all the HOA communities voluntarily and, we're teaching all of the vets and, HOA communities about the drugs. And I still have the twenty four hour drug, alcohol, and mental health, awareness number, 7024983700. And I didn't prepare anything, so, of course, I'm nervous. But I'm also gonna send you guys the flyers in your email as to the other services that we're doing. Thank you. Thanks for the time. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice J2hear it at 1:39:53

No, chair. Alright. We're gonna close public comment and move on to actually, yeah, move on to four three, please. Sorry.

Voice Ahear it at 1:40:03

Item three, commissioner manager comments. This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff for topics proposed for future board meetings, lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law.

Voice Bhear it at 1:40:23

Thank you for that. Commissioner Bain, you got anything? I guess, John, very quickly. I appreciate the labor union people here. 1997, I actually got a crash course in retail politics from a labor union when I organized. We went to a vote and lost, and if the vote was successful, I would have been a president of a local. So I appreciate what you're doing here. I do. I was the only person at work who had their own personal security details, so things got a little hairy. So I know what you're going through, and I... I appreciate the struggle for work and what you folks do, and this was in Boston as I mentioned before many, many years ago. The second thing I wanted to to point out uh I just put the District Attorney about this as far as applicability or permissibility of speaking here. The June tenth planning board decision to approve zoning for data centres should have been should be void and I will be moving to make that so it was in direct violation of the language of the June 2 moratorium. The place has a prohibition on anything associated with data centres, and it is associated with data centres. So I'll be working to make that void as it should be, and I just wanted the public to know that. Thank you, Mr Chairman.

Voice Ahear it at 1:41:32

Thank you. Commissioner Jabor.

Voice Chear it at 1:41:36

Thank you, Chair. Good morning everybody again. Just a couple of things I'd like to share with you is throughout the entire county and the county that we're concerned with, Nye County, there have been an extreme amount of fires. whether they're from barbecues, from a cigarette dropping, etc. And I'm just going to ask that we all be attentive and be very careful because with the season that's amongst us, we just need to be cognizant of what can happen and what does happen throughout the year, not just because it's summertime. The other thing I'd like to address is my condolences to the families and friends of the unfortunate incident, the woman that worked for the local television station and she's been here for many years, very, very nice lady, sweet lady. But I will also remind everybody that whether they're listening or here and your family and friends, we all like to ride, whether it's on the street, I do ride on the street, on the dirt, side by sides, etc. DUI is a DUI. And I believe that they did. They did make contact and arrest of the woman that allegedly ran through the fence. I'll say allegedly. We know what happened, right? So please be aware of that as well. And thank you again for being here. Very, very sensitive items today. And I think we're going to have a good meeting. Thank you, Chair.

Voice Ahear it at 1:43:20

Thank you, sir. Commissioner Strickland.

Voice Dhear it at 1:43:22

Thank you for all your comments in regards to that terrible loss, Commissioner Jabor, and thank you all for being here. Thank you, Chair.

Voice Ahear it at 1:43:31

Thank you, Commissioner Connick.

Voice Ehear it at 1:43:35

Thank you, Chairman. I'd like to give direction to staff. I'd like an agenda item on some upcoming meeting. Directed at best in the West and I think we may want to rename them worst in the West after what they did to Crystal after their last race. I think they need to be called to the table for that. We need to relook at whether we allow them to continue doing what they do. They pretty well tore up the town. There's no excuse for that. They do it year after year. This year was worse and we have videos this year of what they were doing. It's not pretty. The clock someone brought up the clock. I have months ago requested that grounds and building and grounds make one that'll go up here. that we can see and you can see and it will count down so all of you will know how much time you have left instead of me being the only one because it's not fair you need to be able to know how much time you so you can hurry up or take your time whatever but I don't know where it is I'll go back in question one more time so recycling yeah me too I'm tired of throwing My papers and my plastic stuff in the regular garbage. It's a waste. It's horrible. So, I saw Mike here. I don't know if he's still here.

Voice Ehear it at 1:45:07

If he is,

Voice Ehear it at 1:45:08

get moving, Mike. Come on. The roundabout, it's a state deal. It's not a county deal. So none of our money is going to that roundabout. It's the state and you can go argue with them. That's all I have. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 1:45:26

Thank you and we don't get a lot of say in what they do.

Voice Ehear it at 1:45:29

Yeah, no sweat.

Voice Bhear it at 1:45:30

It's really bad. I don't have really anything. Thank you all for being here. I'm trying to get us along so we can get to what you're here for. Come on up sir.

Voice Fhear it at 1:45:42

Good morning. Corey Files, FOWLES undersheriff. I wanted to bring two matters to the board's attention. Had some trouble last week. We tried to hire a lateral deputy that's post-certified to fill a spot after position became vacant last week. We were told that we couldn't hire that person, that we had to get board approval. My frustration stems from the fact that I believe two months ago, three months ago, the board said that hiring freezes didn't apply to first responders, and now I'm being told that we cannot fill an open position that's already budgeted for, so. I'm going to need your help, I guess, with that in the future. I'm being told that we have to do an agenda item, which is perplexing to me because, like I said, I thought the board had agreed that hiring freezes didn't apply to first responders. The other issue is that my gas cards, my fuel consumption appears to be being limited. The sheriff and I are working with finance on that. I've had two, three gas cards that were denied over the weekend when we've tried to get fuel at the pumps saying that the limit was reached. As you know, Nye County is 18,162 square miles. It's larger than the nine smallest states. I need gas. I know that we're in hard financial times, but I need fuel. So we're working with finance. They're looking into that. If I could please have my fuel unrestricted very quickly that would be helpful. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 1:47:10

Corey, um you're working with your finance folks, right? Because

Voice Fhear it at 1:47:14

Oh, uh the sheriff

Voice Ahear it at 1:47:15

you guys administer your own fuel card We scheme.

Voice Fhear it at 1:47:18

do, that's why I'm told that we m administer the flyers and that the county administers the the wax, the enterprise cards, but I know he he the sheriff emailed finance today I don't know why they're being declined all of a sudden. He's working with finance.

Voice Ahear it at 1:47:29

Yeah, with with your own finance department.

Voice Ahear it at 1:47:34

Flyers is administered by the Sheriff's Department.

Voice Ahear it at 1:47:38

The WEX is administered by county finance department.

Voice Fhear it at 1:47:42

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 1:47:44

Thanks, Cory. Sam, any managers or directors on

Voice Dhear it at 1:47:47

you, Manager, for the clarity.

Voice Chear it at 1:47:50

Well hopefully your finance manager was on the phone and heard that.

Voice Ahear it at 1:47:56

Have I ever met her?

Voice Ahear it at 1:48:01

Okay. I have just

Voice Ahear it at 1:48:02

very two very quick things, just to answer a couple questions. One of them in regard to um the recycle being started back up, a drop off location that I believe is aimed to start on the first, and again it will be right next to the tourism office. Right on the highway and then second, no, Petrick Park is not for sale.

Voice Bhear it at 1:48:28

All right. Go ahead, Sheriff. Yeah, I just want to clarify that a little bit. I reached out to Zini yesterday on the fuel card issue, and I was informed that we manage the flyers and that.

Voice Ahear it at 1:48:42

Finance managers the Wex and I just finished sending an email to yourself and Stephanie and Stephanie has been working on it and as of we talked yesterday so hopefully we're going to figure out what the issue is and get it resolved it may simply be a matter of increasing the daily limit allowable or something to that effect I don't know we'll find out.

Voice Bhear it at 1:49:05

Oh, thank you,

Voice Chear it at 1:49:06

Excuse me, through the chair. Sheriff, you know, in Las Vegas metro where you used to work, they use bicycles and bottles of water.

Voice Ahear it at 1:49:18

Well, another solution is give me your credit card and we can pass it around.

Voice Chear it at 1:49:27

I just found a wallet outside and we'll see if it's maxed out or not.

Voice Bhear it at 1:49:32

Mr. Chairman, very quickly, if we just I'm just confused to whether we or not we do have the freeze on the first responders. We've been told so many times we have we did not have a freeze on first responders. I'm just confused. I I legitimately do not know. Is there anyone that might know the answer to this?

Voice Ahear it at 1:49:47

Yes, Commissioner, but I don't know how far into discussion we go without a d agenda item. So if you want to get with me on that.

Voice Bhear it at 1:49:55

I'm just like a yes no? Can we do a yes no, freeze or no freeze?

Voice Chear it at 1:49:58

I would get with the manager. There's already been a discussion and an agendized item where both Commissioner Bain and I clarified with HR and finance that it did not include first responders, law enforcement, fire department, EMS, etc. So I'm not sure why they were not able to fill a position, an open position, as the undersheriff stated.

Voice Bhear it at 1:50:28

Mr. DA, do you have a legal opinion on what the standing in the county is? I'm sorry, you may be unprepared.

Voice Ehear it at 1:50:36

I'm not sure what you mean.

Voice Bhear it at 1:50:37

Do we have a freeze on first responders, or do we not have a freeze?

Voice Ehear it at 1:50:41

I have no

Voice Bhear it at 1:50:41

I know this

Voice Bhear it at 1:50:42

is an extremely complicated question. I know yes or we don't do yes or no here out here very well.

Voice Ahear it at 1:50:46

I what I was asking the D.A. is if this is a discussion we should be having during commissioner manager comments, that's

Voice Ehear it at 1:50:52

would be no.

Voice Bhear it at 1:50:53

We can't answer that question during commissioner comments?

Voice Ahear it at 1:50:58

He just said no.

Voice Ahear it at 1:51:01

This is not an open discussion. You have to be very careful

Voice Bhear it at 1:51:04

it says the clarification it says in the meeting rules

Voice Ahear it at 1:51:06

You can ask for clarification, but then you can't get into extended You

Voice Bhear it at 1:51:09

That's what I'm asking now can we get a yes or no I

Voice Ahear it at 1:51:11

can't get into extended discussion.

Voice Bhear it at 1:51:12

Don't want to discuss it. I just want to yes I really don't want to discuss it. Can we get a yes or no or we can't it's too complicated We can't get a yes or no

Voice Ahear it at 1:51:19

You're already discussing it.

Voice Bhear it at 1:51:21

Okay, so let me start over Commissioner management limited to the announcements brief discussions correction of factual inaccuracies I'd like to correct the factual inaccuracy that we have a freeze on first responders can we just correct that on the record here per our rules please

Voice Ahear it at 1:51:39

I'll go ahead and put myself, I guess, on an open meeting law violation and have this discussion. The freeze that was originally done last year till the end of the fiscal year did not include law enforcement. During the budget cycle, when you guys adopted a budget,

Voice Ahear it at 1:51:59

vacant positions were defunded with a criteria that they have to come back to the board and have them funded.

Voice Bhear it at 1:52:06

Thank you. That was it. That was the only question. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Voice Ghear it at 1:52:10

Can I just?

Voice Ahear it at 1:52:10

Go ahead, if you need to.

Voice Hhear it at 1:52:14

The first thing we do is we confirm whether a position is open, and as of right now, all positions are filled. There

Voice Hhear it at 1:52:23

is one position that is being discussed that is on this agenda, and there is other circumstances which I cannot speak about right now.

Voice Ahear it at 1:52:38

There you go. Perfect. Okay.

Voice Ahear it at 1:52:46

No, we can't. We can't. I'm sorry, Joe. All right, we're moving on to uh number four.

Voice Ahear it at 1:52:57

Item four, uh we are going to be pulling item twelve and item thirteen. Hold on.

Voice Bhear it at 1:53:08

Yes, quiet manager?

Voice Ahear it at 1:53:08

Under recommendation by the D_A_

Voice Bhear it at 1:53:11

Uh. Hmm. So twelve and thirteen, is that it?

Voice Ahear it at 1:53:17

Yeah, and then uh I was gonna respectfully ask that we open Item nine and item eleven, because we've got requests to continue those to future dates. Are they just they're only for uh continuation? Yeah. I can do that. When do you when do you want those? After five? Before five? No, not before five. Uh five is, I'm sorry, is being pulled also.

Voice Ahear it at 1:53:50

So it's nine, our item twelve and thirteen, and item five.

Voice Ahear it at 1:53:59

So that's it. We're done with that.

Voice Ahear it at 1:54:01

Let's uh open nine and oh what'd you say? Eleven?

Voice Ahear it at 1:54:06

Yeah, nine and uh item nine and item eleven.

Voice Ahear it at 1:57:32

Hopefully Item you

Voice Bhear it at 1:57:32

six, 10 a.m. for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding the monthly statement of county treasurer pursuant to NRS 354.280, including receipts, balances and funds, money on deposit, outstanding checks and cash on hand. Hi, Raylan.

Voice Chear it at 1:57:55

Commissioner is Raylan Powers, POWERS Treasurer for Nye County. Today we have our June bank reconciliation and Treasurer's report as of July 15th. This is a soft close for the month of June fiscal year 26. As most of you are aware, monies that we receive in July and August in the first week of September is backdated into the prior fiscal year. It is part of our revenue recognition rules, and this one is just as of July 15th, so we will have a couple of more June bank reconciliation and treasurer's report as we progress through the new fiscal year. Nothing a whole lot special on this one either, Commissioners. Everything is still falling in order. We do have a little bit of cleanup for our fiscal judicial. A couple of our deputies have researched. They were successful in reconciling it. I unfortunately have not had a time or chance to dig in and finalize their review, but I am pretty positive that we'll be able to clear those items. Of course, as we move through the next few months, our reconciling items for June will increase as we are recording activity in our accounting system, and that activity has occurred in our banking system in differing months. Other than that, do we have any questions, Commissioners?

Voice Bhear it at 1:59:19

Commissioners, you got anything for

Voice Bhear it at 1:59:20

I do. Go ahead, Commissioner

Voice Ahear it at 1:59:22

you, Chair. Treasurer. question, please.

Voice Chear it at 1:59:25

Yes, I sir.

Voice Ahear it at 1:59:26

received, I personally received duplicate tax invoices for the new fiscal year 26-27. And my concern,

Voice Chear it at 1:59:41

Oh, go ahead, sir.

Voice Ahear it at 1:59:42

Well, my concern is I'm hoping that perhaps I was the only one that received duplicate. tax invoices and not the entire county, but go ahead.

Voice Chear it at 1:59:57

I wish I could say that you were the only one to, Commissioner. Unfortunately, my estimate is about 5,000 duplicate tax bills were generated. Part of that had to do with our Xerox machine and using our assessor's Xerox machine as a temporary fix. Unfortunately, we did not catch it in time, so there was about 5,000 that were duplicated. Please feel free to just... Just this card one of course you are only obligated to pay one amount one bill

Voice Bhear it at 2:00:28

But you But can pay

Voice Dhear it at 2:00:29

pay two if you like we need the money

Voice Ahear it at 2:00:31

Well, I think if I try to pay the second, it would be rejected. I know better than

Voice Ahear it at 2:00:38

that. So if we do the math, Treasurer, and thank you for that information, because doing the math with 79 cents postage envelopes, ink, etc., this was a crucial mistake.

Voice Chear it at 2:00:53

Well, if I may. If I'm, it was, sir, and I do apologize. If our Xerox machine had not hiccuped on, broke on us, I don't think we would have had that error. But if I may share, we were in the post office in our mailroom postaging envelopes prior to the increase. So we actually had quite a few about I'd say 10,000 letters posted would be old rate before it actually increased.

Voice Ahear it at 2:01:27

Okay, thank you, Treasurer. Thank you, Chair.

Voice Bhear it at 2:01:30

Thank you. Let's open public comment

Voice Bhear it at 2:01:33

see if we have any.

Voice Bhear it at 2:01:34

Never mind. No public comment. All right. Moving on that, we're going to take, well, how long do you want? We're gonna open public comment.

Voice Bhear it at 2:01:44

got any comments on the Treasurer's report?

Voice Ehear it at 2:01:56

Stacy Edwards, E-D-W-A-R-D-S. Since we're talking about tax bill, I just have a question that I'd like clarification on. My tax bill charges me $70 for landfill. I've gone through the NRS. I went down to the office. They told me it was because I have a... RV hookup on my property. I went through the NRS and the NRS even if I was a commercial property, which I'm not, it would be $35 plus $5 per hookup. So I don't know where they got the $70. I'm still waiting to hear back again from Tina. She said maybe I need to go to public works. Does anyone know why and where I should go?

Voice Bhear it at 2:02:46

You go to Treasure, start there.

Voice Fhear it at 2:02:50

The treasurer's office?

Voice Fhear it at 2:02:53

On base, I think. Come on down and prompt, please.

Voice Ehear it at 2:02:59

Angelina, excuse me, Angelina Jackson, J-A-C-K-S-O-N. Being that we are on the subject of financing, we are 50. This year, the county brought in $57.7 million, yet we are in the red. I think that we are owed an explanation of why when our county manager's salary is $260,000 a year, as well as... The department heads of the boards are well over $100,000 a year and why there's so many different boards when apparently nothing's getting done in that aspect. So I don't understand why we need so many different committees and boards when we still can't get things done here. I'd like to know what happened to the taxes that we were supposed to get or the revenue we were supposed to get from the grow farms and the dispensaries that were approved that were promised for the schools and promised for the roads repairs. School didn't apparently see any of it because they're letting go of teachers because they can't afford to keep them. The only road I've seen work done around here is base in three different times in two years. same part of it so I think that we are owed an explanation of we were promised revenue from the dispensary what happened to the revenue from that and we're asked to you know believe what's being said that the revenue that's going to be made from something else that's proposed we're not that's just but Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 2:04:46

Thank you. I would email or call finance, and I promise you they would answer your questions. Sam, do you have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 2:04:58

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Chear it at 2:05:05

S for Savage, B-O-R-Y-S-T-W-I-C-H. My ears perked up a little bit when I heard Raylan say that there was an increase. What was that increase on? Because it wasn't clear and I would like to know because if our taxes increase, I thought that they were staying the same. I'm just curious as to that statement. I will email her and ask.

Voice Hhear it at 2:05:31

Master, but I wanted it on the record, you know, so that we could be clear. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:05:38

Thank you. Anybody else? Please.

Voice Ghear it at 2:05:42

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ihear it at 2:05:49

Hello, Commissioners. Michael David Garcia, GAR CIA. Is my volume okay with you?

Voice Ahear it at 2:05:55

Go ahead, sir.

Voice Ihear it at 2:05:58

Oh, thank you. Thank you. I was helping somebody up there with the right intellect can go over this Xerox air. Kind of curious about that because it kind of falls in line with the patterns and tendencies when it comes to accountability. So this was that Xerox air. Hello.

Voice Ihear it at 2:06:21

Do I want to get into that or is that just, it's okay to just mislead the record like that? Hello? Is that how we handle financial errors? It's the computer's fault? Is that correct? That's the DA. Is this your main? Hello? Going to clarity? Is it your main to alter the record?

Voice Bhear it at 2:07:01

Sir, I'm not trying

Voice Bhear it at 2:07:02

to interrupt on

Voice Ihear it at 2:07:04

Oh, no, I figured you needed help with your question on this one. I was trying to help you out with it. About, well, you still want to go over the First Amendment? I still got time. We got any more rules and regulations that supersede it?

Voice Bhear it at 2:07:22

Thank you, Mr.

Voice Bhear it at 2:07:24

Come on up and brunt, please.

Voice Ehear it at 2:07:29

Julia Mussel, M-U-S-A-L-L. I wasn't going to talk, but I'm hearing all of this money that we have, what, over $57 million, but we're in the red. Now we have stuff like the machine breaking down, and Lord knows how much that just cost us. But anyway, this may not be appropriate, I don't know, but I... I am requesting that we do a forensic audit on our books. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 2:08:06

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Bhear it at 2:08:10

Okay, we're going to close that out and close that item.

Voice Ghear it at 2:08:14

Can we have a break?

Voice Bhear it at 2:08:15

Break time, how much do we want? Five minutes. Five minute break.

Voice Bhear it at 2:10:23

take thirty minutes maybe. Ready?

Voice Dhear it at 2:10:30

Are we ready to eat? Are we

Voice Bhear it at 2:10:32

we'll just do lunch.

Voice Dhear it at 2:10:33

do lunch now or you do it after solar?

Voice Dhear it at 2:10:39

See the problem is no one's gonna be happy.

Voice Bhear it at 2:10:41

They're never gonna be happy. Did anyone check, hey b Okay, let's get going. Where were we? Yeah, I got to do that one. Okay, let's do number seven, please.

Voice Ahear it at 2:11:08

Item 7, for possible action, continue public hearing, discussion and deliberation regarding a request to adopt, amend, adopt, or reject Nye County Bill number 2026-01, a bill proposing to amend Nye County Code Title 17, Title Comprehensive Land Use Planning and Zoning, Chapter 1710, titled SPECIAL USE PERMITS SECTION 1710.10 Titled Definitions, by adding the definition of Approved Signee, Commence or Commencement Permit Holder and Person, Section 1710.050, Titled Requirement to Obtain a Special Use Permit by Providing for an Extension of Time and for Obtaining a Written Letter from a Town Board, deleting Section 1710.080, Titled Designation of Use in Districts and the Permit. the Pahrump Regional Planning District Section 17.10.090 titled Approval Process by amending the process for an application for a special use permit and waiver applications 17.10.100 titled Preliminary Development Plan approval by removing the requirement for the applicant's signature adding and entering in the development agreement and amending the documents needed to submit for preliminary development plan approval and final development plan approval, Section 1710.120, Title Building Permits and Commencement of Construction, by requiring applicant to attend a pre-development meeting, Section 1710.140, Title Development Standards, by requiring applicant to conduct an audible A-weighted sound pressure test. Section 17.10.150 titled Setbacks and Height Restrictions by Removing Height Restrictions of SCS2 solar panel and allowed variances and mending the allowed waivers for setback and distance restrictions and providing for the severability, constitutionality, and effective date thereof and other matters properly relating thereto. Okay, thank you. Um Should I just do public first? Let's open public comment on this this guy since they're ready come on up.

Voice Bhear it at 2:13:35

Wow, that was a mouthful.

Voice Ahear it at 2:13:37

Yeah, no kidding.

Voice Bhear it at 2:13:38

I have a quick question before we start time. If I don't make it through my public comment because I timed it for 2.30, two minutes and 30 seconds, can I submit it for the record?

Voice Bhear it at 2:13:49

There's some things that maybe you might want

Voice Ahear it at 2:13:51

that'll write ahead.

Voice Bhear it at 2:13:53

Stacey Edwards, EDWARDS, District 5. I am here on my own accord. I am owned by no one. I stand here today for the people, the land, the animals, the plants that can't be here because for obvious reasons or because of health. age reasons. I'm curious, do you guys actually read this stuff in advance or do you just trust that the staff has our best interests in mind? Because I don't understand how you can allow a bill on the agenda that varies substantive policy changes among housekeeping edits. I'm going to give you a little history. This applies. Stay with me. On December 18th, 2026, Dandelion Solo was item 11 on BOCC agenda, seeking variances that would allow them to set up camp just 300 feet from Holmes on Roadrunner and Roadrunner Road in Pahrump. Residents came to oppose it, the item was pulled. Residents stayed, used general public comment to point out protections in Ordinance 611 that would prevent dandelion from proceeding. 44 days later, Bill 2026-01 had gone through legal review. It deletes 17.10.80, the section that definitively protects residents from sex 1 solars on any other land. It changes setback and variance protections and eliminates the requirement for executive agreements with all participating and non-participating affected landowners before a variance can be considered, something Samsung doesn't have. This bill also changes the word variance to waiver throughout. Variances carry legal weight that waivers do not, so why change the language and weaken these protections? At the July 21st meeting, Mr. Wagoner told the board that deleting the zoning section was acceptable because zoning is addressed through the SUP. Dandelion is proposed on land zoned RH95, which under that section is definitively not designated for sex one solar. The SUP will take care of it as not acceptable because

Voice Bhear it at 2:16:06

what I see now is vague and ambiguous language.

Voice Ahear it at 2:16:08

Thank you. Thank you very much. But you did submit, right? Or can you? Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

Voice Chear it at 2:16:17

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ahear it at 2:16:30

Okay, come on down and parole.

Voice Bhear it at 2:16:37

Good afternoon, Commissioner. Sharon Cruz, C-R-U-I-S-E.

Voice Dhear it at 2:16:42

In regards to item number seven, section 17-10-100, I'm formally requesting that the BOCC not remove the requirement for the applicant's signature. Without the applicant's signature, there is no commitment on their part to truthfully complete the application or to abide by the responses they have provided. Regarding Section 17.10.150, I'm formally requesting that the BSEC not remove solar panel height restrictions or allowed variances for setbacks and distance restrictions. Solar panel height restrictions along with setbacks and distant restrictions are crucial to the safety and the well-being. of the residents living in close proximity to any businesses enterprise with solar panels. Also, I was not aware of this until a couple of days ago, but this is going on both sides of 160, not just one side, so that was even more disturbing. But again, I really wish you would.

Voice Bhear it at 2:17:48

consider our feelings and how we'd like to keep this land. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:17:53

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 2:17:56

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Dhear it at 2:18:02

Yes, Amy Nelson, N-E-L-S-O-N. There's not enough time to go through all the things that the letters from baby were. talking about, but I can tell you I am in protest of any restriction on height because it might pertain to a data center as well. One story is plenty. Those people bought property out there so they could have a scenery and not have a seven-story monstrosity in their backyard and the distance restriction Even closer, a thousand feet was close enough, not far enough, but now you want to make it 300 feet. That's really too close for anybody's backyard. The noise alone will be a problem for wildlife because they can't hear their prey and they can't hear their mating calls.

Voice Ehear it at 2:19:04

etc there's so many restrictions being changed on our new master plan I think it all should stay the way it is to benefit the people of Pahrump and I'm not sure why this is put into a county situation because it is for Pahrump it's not for the county

Voice Dhear it at 2:19:28

And those restrictions should have been discussed with the people of Pahrump at a town meeting, in my opinion. And I think everything should just be refused the way it is until it can be conducted properly. And that includes telling the people in the agenda what these things are about and, you know, in a language that the public understands. And that's my opinion. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:19:57

Thanks, Amy. Go ahead, ma'am.

Voice Fhear it at 2:20:00

Hi, my name is Ruth Matthews. I agree that this chapter needed cleanup. What I don't agree with is what it wrote along with the fix.

Voice Ahear it at 2:20:08

I'm sorry. Can you spell it?

Voice Ahear it at 2:20:11

Thank you. I'm sorry.

Voice Fhear it at 2:20:12

On August 12th, the Planning Commission Commissioner Strickland confirmed this bill came from a private citizen. It is not in these 102 pages. A private party rewrote the county's ordinance. The town deserves to know who. And the Planning Commission also voted against this on August 12th. This takes three things away from the community. Today, company once out of a setback must bring a signed agreement from every neighborhood fix. This bill removes that. Neighbors' letters become optional. The words municipality or school district affected are removed. They have no say in this change. Section 1710-080 is deleted. It's the list of zones big solar is allowed. Today, the list is five. The list is now gone. In the hands of the company, it hands the company four things. It permits passes to a bank or whoever buys it at foreclosure without coming back to you. Pulling a building permit now counts as starting construction. No dirt ever has to move. Annual renewal used to mean meeting your conditions. Now it's just trust us, bro. The 25-foot height limits can now be waived. It could not before. The order you're doing this, there's no data center ban right now. applications were paused until you rewrite the data center rules. On August 4th, the ordinance is in the DA's review with the hearing plan for September. My question is, will the data center ordinance use this chapter approval process and why not do this in order? Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:21:41

you, but we're not on data. We're on solar.

Voice Fhear it at 2:21:43

This is about this is this is a part of it. It leads into that.

Voice Ghear it at 2:21:48

leads into that.

Voice Hhear it at 2:21:49

Sam, do we have anybody?

Voice Chear it at 2:21:52

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ihear it at 2:21:59

Carrie Radomsky, R-A-D-O-M-S-K-I, Baytown Administrative Coordinator. We want to thank the planning department for listening to us and being willing to represent our requests. We also thank you, our commissioners, for your consideration of our request specifically for Beatty, while ensuring all Nye communities are governed as they choose and in a way that is best for each unique community vision, value, and position. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:22:27

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Jhear it at 2:22:33

Good afternoon, Chairman, Commissioners, and County staff. My name is Sai Naum, N-A-O-U-M. And thank you for allowing me to speak here with you today. I am a proud member of the Labor's Union Local 872, and I'm here today in support of adopting the proposed revision to Nye County's solar ordinance. When multiple solar projects are developed in Nye County, they can create sustained pipeline work for skilled tradespeople and other local workers. Construction itself creates opportunities for electricians, laborers, equipment operators, so on and so forth. Truck drivers, many other skilled workers. But the benefits doesn't have to end when one project is complete. A county with multiple projects can provide something much more valuable, long-term stable career opportunities instead of relying on temporary construction, then sending workers elsewhere to find their next job. A steady pipeline of solar work and development can allow residents to build careers, gain experience, advance their skills, and continue working closer to home. The stability matters to working families. It means more residents can earn a dependable paycheck, support local businesses, buy homes, raise their families in Nye County. It also gives young people, which I came up through the apprenticeship program, it gives young people an opportunity to learn skilled trades as well. From a labor perspective, we also know that quality of these jobs matters. We want development that values skilled workers, safety, training, fair wages, and career advancement. Well-planned solar development can be an important part of the economic future. I understand the Board has to balance many interests when considering changes to county ordinances, but I believe these revisions can help Nye County responsibly attract investment while creating a framework of continued economic opportunity. We should think beyond the jobs created by a single project. The real opportunity is building an industry and a pipeline of projects that can provide years of career opportunities for Nye County residents. For those reasons, I respectfully ask the board to adopt the proposed solar ordinance and the revisions. Thank you for your time.

Voice Ahear it at 2:24:34

Thank you. Right on the buzzer. Come on down, sir.

Voice Khear it at 2:24:42

Good afternoon, Commissioners and members of the Board. My name is Joseph Franco. That's spelled F-R-A-N-C-O. I am speaking to you today to state my strong support to the revised Nye County Solar Ordinance. As someone who's worked in the industry, I know what goes into the building these projects. I support the revised ordinance because it strikes the right balance. It requires developers to provide extensive details, ensuring that county staff can review and enforce strict community safeguards like proper setbacks. It means we get the development we need, but we get it to do it on our own responsibility and on our own terms. I'm living proof of positive impact on these projects have solar development has given me long-term career opportunities and the solid livelihood that comes with being a proud member of local 872 the labor's union the jobs created by this industry deliver a massive much-needed economic stimulus to Nye County and the rest of the Nevada By passing this ordinance, you're protecting our community with clear rules while keeping the doors open for good-paying jobs. I urge you to adopt the revised ordinance, and thank you for your time.

Voice Ahear it at 2:25:46

Thank you, sir. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 2:25:50

Yes, sure. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Khear it at 2:25:57

Hey, David Vanderbeek again, V-A-N-D-E-R-B-E-E-K. Can you hear me okay?

Voice Ahear it at 2:26:02

Go ahead, sir.

Voice Khear it at 2:26:04

Can you hear it? Yes. Okay. So just so you know, these guys talking know zero about the science of dirty electricity and solar fields. They literally know nothing. You could all Google this right now, guys. Are solar fields linked to dirty electricity? And if you don't know what dirty electricity is, again, look up the sites, follow the sites. It's like stomping on your gas pedal full throttle and it ruins your appliances. Do not let these people anywhere near your grid.

Voice Lhear it at 2:26:30

grid don't let them near your homes don't let them share your grid ever don't change the zoning for solar people put the solar fields way the heck out away from everybody and away from your grid that's a site you can all google it right now and you can all educate yourselves do not listen to these people they are very ignorant on their own science they don't know what they're talking about thank you that's all

Voice Ahear it at 2:26:52

Thanks. Come on down in front, please.

Voice Hhear it at 2:26:58

Commissioner saw Reggie, federal, F as in Frank, E-D-R-O, District 3, for the record. I'm here to discuss Bill number 2026-01, Pahrump Public Lands Advisory Committee. Committee voted no on Tuesday, August 11. Yet today, that same bill is back before you. Before you vote, I'm asking the board to explain on the record why does a bill rejected by PPLAC continue to advance if committee rejection doesn't stop a bill. The board should explain why on the record. And if these committees have no power to stop anything, what's their purpose? Bill 2026-01 is rewrite of Title 17, the county's land use code. This ordinance requires a written letter from a town board. Reminder, the Nevada Supreme Court eliminated the town board in 2012. You cannot impose a requirement that references an entity that no longer exists. On January 29th, the District Attorney legally reviewed an ordinance, but on August 11th, a substantially rewritten version appeared with a new permit timelines. New transfer procedures and new development agreement rules. The August 18th version still keeps all those changes and enters the record with the BD letter. However, Perum's unanimous 5-0 vote is not part of the record. Despite this, the board is still relying on a legal review from January 29th.

Voice Ahear it at 2:28:46

The problem is simple. That review happened before the August rewrite. You can't use an old legal review to approve new changes. The DA's legal review does not cover this version.

Voice Hhear it at 2:29:01

Thank you. Thank you very much, sir. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 2:29:05

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 2:29:12

Yes, Robert Adams, ADAMS, speaking as the secretary of the Perron Public Land Advisory Committee that August 11th, a regularly scheduled meeting date, item number eight, plaque considered us and unanimously voted against any changes in the ordinance. And I hope you'll take our opinion on this, and thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:29:44

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Ehear it at 2:29:50

I'm out of Brooklyn area.

Voice Ahear it at 2:29:53

Can you spell your last name, please?

Voice Ehear it at 2:29:57

And I'm in favor of the solar because great jobs. Especially for the vets.

Voice Ahear it at 2:30:08

very much for coming Sam anybody on the phone please

Voice Chear it at 2:30:11

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Fhear it at 2:30:19

Excuse me. This is Paula Thompson, P-H-O-M-P-S-O-N, a present. Hard no on this. It just seems like it's a sneaky way to come in for builders to have their projects even higher, bigger, louder, closer to homes and destroying our environment. We don't need it. We've said no. And just as curiosity, are the union representatives?

Voice Ihear it at 2:30:44

Are they local or are they outside of Nye County? Because that would be interesting to find out. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:30:50

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Jhear it at 2:30:54

Hi, my name is Eddie Jimenez, J-I-M-E-N-E-Z. I'm a proud union member of Local 872. And me personally, I'd like to share my experience actually being able to work on these solar fields. Not only...

Voice Nhear it at 2:30:54

Hi, my name is Eddie Jimenez, J-I-M-E-N-E-Z. I'm a proud union member of Local 872, and me personally, I'd like to share my experience actually being able to work on these solar fields. Not only did it provide a livable wage for me to bring to my family, it actually provided me opportunity to grow. I am for the solar field and a solar field this close to our brothers and sisters that actually reside out here would actually cut their time drastically in order for them to spend time quality time with their family. So I am in favor of the solar field and thank you for you guys time.

Voice Hhear it at 2:31:32

Thank you. Come on down. Come on down, Deborah.

Voice Ghear it at 2:31:45

Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S. There are several things I don't like about this Agenda Item 7. I don't like the 20-year build-out. It should be five years with builds started by at least year two. We should levy a significant renewal fee if ground is not broken by year four. If a very...

Voice Chear it at 2:32:10

And the reason for that would be funding, because there's a lot of major builders that can't finish the job, and that causes an additional problem. If every large project would obviously be completed by year five, When the project is presented to the Board, an exception should be allowed for ten years if it's a really large project, with an extension possible if applied for with a significant renewal fee. I also don't like the restriction of only a half a mile from the road. It should be one mile. This would make all projects more consistent and eliminate confusion.

Voice Ghear it at 2:33:04

reconsider and to redo the time frames and put the arrays one mile from the road. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:33:12

Thank you, Deborah. Come on down, sir. Not yet.

Voice Chear it at 2:33:18

Oh, my God.

Voice Ahear it at 2:33:18

Next item. Sorry.

Voice Ohear it at 2:33:27

Well, Deborah, you're short. My name is Diane Sautter, S-A-U-T-E-R. The gentleman on the phone, I think it was Vanderbeek, he was correct about the solar panels. I don't know about anybody else, but I noticed that my allergies were so much worse the last couple of years, and I think it's just going to get worse. The surface on the panels, it does get covered with dust, dirt pollen, and bird droppings or pollution. What I did notice was that Wolfenstein provides water for the solar panels now to cool them down and keep them clean. So that's water he's pumping out of the aquifer. Just keep that in mind. The, let's see, anyways. I don't. Oh, I did meet a lady at the public Land Advisory Council who was there and spoke about. Putting in more solar, she talked about it being in Clark County and part of it in Nye County. And I asked her, Deborah was there, I asked her, where was the power going? Even though if they put more solar panels in Clark County and some in Nye County, we're not getting that power. That power is still going to California. And to the guys that work the solar panels, I'm sorry, you guys all look young. The majority of us came here to retire and live the remaining time of our life, okay? We didn't come here to work again. Keep that in mind.

Voice Hhear it at 2:35:08

Ma'am, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ehear it at 2:35:10

Thank you, ma'am.

Voice Chear it at 2:35:12

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please

Voice Chear it at 2:35:14

you yes. can spell your name for the record.

Voice Phear it at 2:35:19

Commissioners Bruce Johnson, GLHN SOLEN. And to all you union guys out there, I'll bet you all drive lifted up four-wheel drives, probably GM's, and you all probably got side-by-side or two, either that or you probably got about a $100,000 sand rail. Yeah, Sam, Sam, so anyway, I appreciate you coming out, but this isn't about money. This is about what the people don't want here, right? And I live on the south end of town where all this stuff is trying to go in, and I don't particularly care to have all the heat that is being generated off of those things being blown on to me throughout the three summer months because the wind comes out of the south. All right. So I'm in opposition to this. Shut this down. This is not a benefit for the will of the people and the good of the whole. All right. Now I'm going to take you back to my number three notice I sent you guys point of clarity power to do anything not prohibited. Where it says notice the agent's notice the principal and notice the principal's notice the agent. I come to you as one of the people. Take notice it is my wish that you provide clarity regarding your constitutional authority to act as long as it is not expressly prohibited in the 51 Constitutions. Are you free to do what is not expressly prohibited in the 51 Constitutions or do you have only the granted authorities which permit you to deal with acts that are authorized by the people? Please take notice. It is my wish, order, and demand that you read and record this notice during the public meetings, which you have never done since December. You guys are in mal administration of this, right? You're completely ignoring the people that are sitting in the seats out there in front of you. It's not acceptable. Anyway, I'm going to land it there. Thank you.

Voice Hhear it at 2:37:20

Thank you. Go ahead, sir.

Voice Phear it at 2:37:21

My name is Dwight Lilley, L-I-L-L-Y. I don't believe in the concept of jobs at any cost. I don't believe that Title 17 was ever intended to be manipulated in such a way that it would destroy the quality of life in Pahrump that I moved here to. I don't want Title 17 to manipulate it in a way that my water aquifer gets polluted.

Voice Hhear it at 2:37:46

that I'm bombarded with electromagnetic waves coming from wherever, that the sound is polluted in the area. I don't want to drive down a street where I can't even see the mountains in the distance when I move to a rural town because buildings are 70, then it'll be 80, then it'll be 90, it'll be 100 feet in the air.

Voice Phear it at 2:38:07

For what? Progress? Do you call that progress? I don't call that progress in a rural town. I call that a disintegration of a lifestyle, the gateway to Death Valley. So I appreciate workers from Las Vegas. And they're union coming over here and wanting jobs, but I don't want them to have jobs if it means it's destroying my lifestyle, my neighbor's lifestyle, the value of my property, the value of my neighbor's property. For what? For what benefit what? A few jobs? A few billionaires can plow down their pockets and move on somewhere else? No. Keep Title 17 to protect the lifestyle of the people who live here. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:38:47

Thank you, Sam. Do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 2:38:50

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Qhear it at 2:38:57

S-4 Savage B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H. A couple years ago, there was talk about putting in solar panels, industrial solar panel fields. The people came together and we put a moratorium that there would be no solar farms in Provence. I don't understand why this is listed under Nye County because this is not Nye County we're talking about. It is Provence. And then in January of this year, we replaced that moratorium with Ordinance 611, and we did not want solar panels. And neither did the board. The people came together. It is very difficult to set yourself aside as a commissioner and have your own beliefs and what you think should be done. But you have the people sitting in front of you that are telling you, we don't want our town destroyed. We don't want this garbage here. We don't want to send anything to California. We want California to destroy. Just fall into the ocean. So anyway, my bottom line in this is that do not in any way accept this. It should be and why is Celeste Sandoval, the assistant planning director, writing this? I mean, who asked her to write it? This is it all seems kind of funny. You know, you got your data centers down there and all of a sudden let's go ahead and throw in all the solar. There's something screwy going on here and I would like to have that cleared up. But again, the people are telling you no. As commissioners, you cannot like what you do, but you're going to have to turn this down because the people are telling you no. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:40:49

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Nhear it at 2:40:54

My name is Hart Flashhower, F-L-E-I-S-C-H-H-A-U-E-R. I counted. There are eight ordinances that are going to be overturned, changed, or amended by this. Those ordinances were put in place to protect us, the people of Nye County. They were put here to create the type of community that I moved to a decade ago to live into. I live in Ward 2. Okay. I moved here almost a decade ago. I've been investing in, probably even longer than that. And I came here because it's the type of community I want, the kind of community that was created by these ordinances that you want to overturn, amend, and throw away. It's wrong. The other thing is I also want to mention that when you say the applicant doesn't need to sign, that's a violation.

Voice Rhear it at 2:41:45

of the statute of frauds. You can have your county attorney look it up, the statute of frauds. Thank you.

Voice Nhear it at 2:41:52

Thank you, Sam. Do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 2:41:55

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Qhear it at 2:42:03

Hi, my name is Natalie Hotzel, H-O-T-Z-E-L. I was there for a couple hours this morning. I'm kind of lost as to where we are in the agenda, if you would help me out.

Voice Ahear it at 2:42:15

We're on seven, ma'am. I was trying to get to solar before lunch, but I mean data, but. Anyway, we're on seven.

Voice Qhear it at 2:42:26

That's okay. All right. I was looking also for, do you have any idea when we might be doing 14.4 next

Voice Ahear it at 2:42:36

After data, so probably next week.

Voice Ahear it at 2:42:44

It'll be today.

Voice Ahear it at 2:42:45

It'll be this afternoon.

Voice Qhear it at 2:42:46

be today. Okay.

Voice Shear it at 2:42:49

This afternoon. That's a long time this afternoon. I guess I'll just keep calling in and find out where we are.

Voice Hhear it at 2:42:57

You can listen along online, ma'am, or actually you can listen on the phone as well.

Voice Rhear it at 2:43:05

I'd call you and let you know when it was, but I just can't.

Voice Hhear it at 2:43:15

Come on down, please.

Voice Ohear it at 2:43:21

Angelina Jackson, J-A-C-K-S-O-N. To all the gentlemen here with the union, I respect what you guys do and I understand you guys have to put food on the table of your families as well and what you guys drive should be nobody's business. However, with that being said, you do not live in this community. and you may not be familiar with everything else that's going on as well. With that being said, we are bringing in solar panels, all the grids that can be coming in for the other proposed item, and all this energy that needs to be generated. And I'm all for pure energy. I really am. But with that on the heels of not just the other item, but the company that was approved for the fiber optics line to run 500 miles to begin with, that was approved without the commissioner that motion for the approval was not informed whatsoever. And it's connected, ma'am. Okay, and please next time you decide to interrupt me, please check with the chair first. Thank you. Can I have my time remaining, please?

Voice Nhear it at 2:44:43

Yeah, you're good.

Voice Ohear it at 2:44:44

And with that, you have to take in consideration everything that's been pulled in front of us here and the backdoor little schemes of things being put on agendas and they're all connected. I don't care what anybody says how they want to try to prove me wrong. You're asking us to give up more of our land. For what do we benefit from it? Nothing. People move to this town because they like the view. They love having an, you know, a house on an acre and nobody right next door. They love not being a Vegas. If I wanted Vegas or if they wanted Vegas, they'd move to Vegas. And we need to have consideration for someone besides yourselves and consider what is best for the community, what is best for the community. And I don't know how many more times you guys need us to state what is best for us.

Voice Ahear it at 2:45:40

Thank you very much. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 2:45:43

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Shear it at 2:45:51

My name is Kenya Martin, M-A-R-T-I-N, and it's a big no for me. I have a lot of respect for these union workers because you bet I wouldn't be out there, you know? Like, these are tough men, but these are all Vegas people. Like, how many of these jobs are going to go to France? And David was right, and these other people are right. Like, we don't want to live next to these solar panels, and it's... I mean, I get you want a shorter drive and you want more time with your family, but we all want more time with our family. My husband's in the Air Force, but I'm not going around asking for an Air Force place, you know, to be built. Like, we just, you know, we have to think of others in the greater.

Voice Qhear it at 2:46:29

benefit for Pahrump so all due respect it's a big no nobody we don't want our you know desert ruined by a bunch of solar fields and you know thank you council members and thank you everybody but yeah it's a big no it won't how many of these job children Pahrump people you know it sounds like it's all Vegas and all due respect we need to look out for Pahrump thank you

Voice Ahear it at 2:46:51

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Nhear it at 2:46:57

Hello, my name is Chris Mallard, M-A-W-H-O-R-T-E-R. I have lived in Pahrump for 10 years. Just like a lot of people have mentioned, a lot of these gentlemen in the orange shirts, they don't live here in town. I've even started asking them myself. They don't live here. I live here. I've worked in Vegas all the way up to the last few months where I've just decided to do something from home. I've always worked in Vegas and I live in Pahrump.

Voice Thear it at 2:47:18

I work in Vegas because that's where you go to make money. That's a city. This is a town. This is a tiny little town where old people live and you raise families. You don't have these big, huge 900-acre facilities. If you want a job like that, go to Vegas. Drive there just like I did, just like all these other people do. We don't need that in this little town. I came here because I want to off-road. I trap. I hunt. I do things outdoors. I enjoy sunsets. All these things will be taken away from me because we want this town to be a Vegas. We want this town to be a California. It's not. This is a tiny desert town. Why is everyone so worried about this growth? It's we're surrounded by mountains. How big can we get? We will never be more than a town. We're never going to have skyscrapers. It's not going to happen. The infrastructure you guys are referring to is something for a huge city, a massive place. We're surrounded by mountains. We are going to trap all this pollution, all this heat. I ran a solar company. I know how much heat these panels make. When you're up there on the roof next to those panels, you are frying. The second you get off the roof, it's perfectly fine. I don't need that extra heat here. It's plenty hot as it is. I like to garden. It's very difficult. Let's raise the temperature 10, 20, 30 more degrees. It's not going to happen. you're going to take away my water. How am I going to grow my vegetables? Let's think about what you're really proposing for such a small place. We're surrounded. There is no room for this growth. Thank you. Thank you very much. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 2:49:03

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Shear it at 2:49:11

Hi, yes, this has been at Markham, M-A-R-K-H-A-M. I couldn't have said it any better than the last person. I totally agree with that. I garden. I do outside things. I came in for peace and to be near my dad. My dad is an IBEW electrician retired and now passed away. He never, never was in agreement with solar panels in our desert, the environment.

Voice Qhear it at 2:49:39

The health hazards. Everything that everyone has said, please, please vote against these changes. Thank you.

Voice Rhear it at 2:49:49

Thank you. Come on down, ma'am.

Voice Ohear it at 2:49:52

Cheryl Varkalis, V-A-R-K-A-L-I-S.

Voice Ghear it at 2:49:56

I agree with Ms. Matthew, Mr. Lillian, some of the other folks that have spoken before me, and especially Mr. Adams. He is on the board of the Public Lands Advisory Committee. I attended that meeting on August the 11th. They voted 5-0 unanimously to reject this proposal. It's my understanding that that...

Voice Hhear it at 2:50:22

Rejection recommendation did not make it into your backup. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it should have been in your backup to show the public land advisory committee's position on this to reject it.

Voice Ghear it at 2:50:42

I oppose removing the requirement for the applicant's signature. I don't know how you would put something forward that didn't require an applicant's signature. That just doesn't make any sense. Please do not modify. position on this to reject it. I oppose removing the requirement for the applicant's signature. I don't know how you would put something forward that didn't require an applicant's signature. That just doesn't make any sense. Please do not modify the height restrictions, the setbacks, and the distance restrictions. We already have those in place, and in my opinion, a mile is not enough.

Voice Uhear it at 2:51:01

Please do not remove any of the zoning protections. Do not make it easy for them. And once something is weakened or removed, we can't get it back. So please reject it. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:51:13

Thank you. Come on down in front, please.

Voice Vhear it at 2:51:21

James McCoy, MCCOY, resident, 24 years. Mr. DeBoer is my commissioner. So they mentioned something earlier about these things. Why do we need 70-foot-tall structures for solar, right? Oh, should I stand back a little bit? Excuse me. I don't need a microphone, but we don't need 70-foot-tall buildings. Right? For anything out here, and that's what they're talking about doing is raising

Voice Vhear it at 2:51:59

the height limit from 35 to 70. Am I not right? Right? That's what way I heard it. So the idea of doing that and that Doing it over for Amargosa for the Ash Meadows and then, oh no, nobody would apply that to another facility, would they? 70 foot tall buildings, 900 acres of them as we enter our beautiful town. Sorry I was too loud. Have a good day.

Voice Rhear it at 2:52:36

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 2:52:41

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Whear it at 2:52:48

Matthew Winterhawk for the record W-I-N-T-E-R-H-A-W-K. I just wanted to reverberate everyone that has been in opposition. We got you to say no to it nearly a month ago and here it is back again with no changes. anyone wants to approve it's pretty clear and the man in the orange shirt seemed to show up everywhere where the government has an interest so keep the fight up there in Pahrump and Nye County it's your land they're supposed to be listening to you you are the people not this elected or appointed bodies take care of business have a great day

Voice Ahear it at 2:53:30

Come on down in front please

Voice Uhear it at 2:53:35

Okay, my name is Nancy Yonda, Y-A-N-D-A. In this meeting, not this meeting, but the public land meeting that we had last week denied them on this solar panel saying, so why are they turning around and coming over to you guys trying to get you guys to allow them to do it? And they live in Las Vegas. They want to put solar panels. Do it over there in Las Vegas. I don't, I'll bet you, you don't see solar panels sticking out all over Las Vegas. They want to dump it on us and take the credit and we're not going to stand for it.

Voice Ahear it at 2:54:18

Thank you. Come on down up front, please.

Voice Xhear it at 2:54:24

Hello, good morning commissioners and staff. My name is Mary Rose. Last name is Parkman, P-A-R-K-M-A-N. First I want to say that my family named some of the streets that are in this town and I want to thank Commissioner Koenig and Bain because their area actually intersects the streets that we live on. And so when I had to call about one. And Commissioner Bain said, well, that's actually right in the middle of where Commissioner Koenig and I both cover that section. So thank you both for getting back to me and for responding to my text messages. As far as Agenda Item Number 7, I believe it deserves much more attention than it's getting, and I'm speaking on behalf of several community members that are at work today and could not be here. The agenda item rewrites the Nye County's renewable energy rules, and more importantly for Pahrump, it deletes the current zoning table. specifically limits which zoning districts can be considered for large commercial solar projects. The BOCC already has the final say on these special use or SUPs even inside the prompt regional planning district so before removing a specific zoning safeguard specific to prompt I think the residents deserve a clear explanation of what replaces it and whether this change would allow large solar projects to be considered in areas where they currently cannot be located. I appreciate your voting no. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 2:56:13

Thank you Sam anybody on the phone please on

Voice Yhear it at 2:56:23

My name is Mark Dalton, the A-L-T-O-N. I am a rep president. It's been here for a little over three years now. And I just wanted to speak about Item Number 7. With the Planning and Zoning Commission all voting unanimously to reject these changes and just... By reading this today, these changes, just a quick cursory read of this, appears to make it so much easier for business than it does for the people. These changes do not help the people. You eliminate the people from the factor. Now, I appreciate all of the union coming here today, but they don't live here. We do. Now, I don't want to speak out of turn, but in the restroom today during one of the breaks, overheard them talking, and what I heard was, we're just here for the work. And I get that. Everybody's here to make, you know, for the work. I get that they want to provide for their families. But when the job is done and they go back to their families, we're left with what they did with the farm. We have this massive solar farm that we're stuck with. We don't want it. No one does. We're still having this huge debate about we don't have the water supply. We all know that solar farms use copious amounts of water. We know that that's going to be a problem.

Voice Vhear it at 2:58:26

Thank you. Thank you, bud.

Voice Yhear it at 2:58:27

Please vote no.

Voice Vhear it at 2:58:28

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Vhear it at 2:58:33

Come on down, Susie.

Voice Xhear it at 2:58:38

Good morning. Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z. I'm really disturbed by this item coming up for evaluation once again, particularly because it has been rewritten in such grand fashion that it's giving an open door to grand scale solar installations for our community specifically.

Voice Ghear it at 2:59:03

It doesn't really call out and it doesn't really attend to anywhere else in the county other than the simple letter that you received from the Beatytown board. But there's no response or there's no information here from any other community in this county. So it's pretty evident and pretty obvious based on what we see with the solar plans that we've been shown publicly that it's South Nye County.

Voice Uhear it at 2:59:28

that's us and it affects us and so I sincerely sincerely request that you vote this down there is a portion of this amendment that says that The amendment of this ordinance regulating the location, construction, and operation of wind and solar projects is necessary and appropriate to achieve and secure the benefits for projects to avoid and or minimize the risks, dangers, inconvenience to health, safety, and general welfare of Nye County. This ordinance does not do that.

Voice Ehear it at 3:00:08

This ordinance, in my opinion, in my research, endangers this county. It doesn't help it. We need to rein in the information for this agenda item and for this ordinance and put it back in the scope that it originally was. And you need to bring the concept of solar fields, if you continue to do this, to the people. by town hall or whatever mechanism is necessary it's not just you it's us

Voice Vhear it at 3:00:43

Thanks Susie. Sam do we have anybody on the phone please?

Voice Chear it at 3:00:49

Yes, chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Zhear it at 3:00:56

Hi, this is Natalie Haskell, H-O-T-V-E-L. I just want to add Just an idea here, DEA limits the solar panels that we can put on our homes. Wouldn't it be more advantageous to just resolve that issue instead of building solar

Voice Ahear it at 3:01:19

Excuse me, on this item. I'm sorry, ma'am, but you've already spoken on this item, according to our clerk.

Voice Vhear it at 3:01:27

Come on up, Tammy.

Voice Xhear it at 3:01:32

Tammy Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N. Good afternoon again. So people who live in Pahrump should take precedence rather than the people who are coming here from Vegas to speak.

Voice Uhear it at 3:01:50

Many of the changes of definition are biased to making it easier for applicants to sail through the approval process and eliminating safeguards for the citizens of Nye County. This is a hard no. We went through a great deal of work, and I remember when we asked for it to be one mile for solar panels, and now all of a sudden they want it to be even closer than the half a mile that we got, which we weren't excited about then. Everything about this is just a no. We should have left it the way it was. We don't need to change it. Thank you.

Voice Vhear it at 3:02:24

Thank you. Come on down and prompt, please.

Voice Ahear it at 3:02:31

I think you've got to push that green

Voice Uhear it at 3:02:32

Oh, okay. My name is Serena Grudzinski, G-R-U-D-J-E-N-S-K-I. I have two questions for clarification. The first one is if 1710-080 is deleted, what specific protections and approval requirements currently provided to the prompt regional planning district are being removed and where are those protections being replaced in the new ordinance as well as regarding 1710-090. Under the proposed changes to that, will the Board of County...

Voice Chear it at 3:02:58

County commissioners still have the same authority to deny a social use permit, impose reasonable conditions on a project, and provide residents with the same opportunities for public input and public hearings. As a wife of a union worker who is currently unemployed, it does provide jobs, temporary jobs, not permanent jobs. I also have kids who are growing up here. So as you can see, I'm torn, husband having a job or my kids growing up here, 100% kids growing up here. Um.

Voice Xhear it at 3:03:26

I highly recommend to vote no for this only because of the fact that it seems like we already have things in place for this and on top of that it's a mess and it opens a door to things that we should not be opening doors to because once that door is open it's going to be almost impossible to close it. Please consider your votes for the future and how that impacts everybody. That's all I have to say. Thank you.

Voice Vhear it at 3:03:52

Thank you. Come on down.

Voice Ahear it at 3:03:53

No, Linda. I got it right this time. I got your name right.

Voice Uhear it at 3:04:02

I think my name is not Linda, is it? Linda Clark, C-L-A-R-K.

Voice Ghear it at 3:04:13

We've been through this how many times now? I've been here just about seven years. Yeah, Ron rolls his eyes because he

Voice Ahear it at 3:04:19

I agree with you.

Voice Ghear it at 3:04:21

We have gone through this so many times and every time it changes. And we're the ones stuck here with whatever you guys decide. And none of it has been good for any of us. So why are we going through this again?

Voice Ehear it at 3:04:37

I don't understand. We made the regulations, like Tammy said. I remember being, we asked for 10 miles. We ended up getting, I think, five or three or something like that. And then one of the farms that was built recently was right on someone's post on the end of their yard. I mean, I just don't understand. The residents here have no rights.

Voice Uhear it at 3:05:00

And you guys are the ones, and you gave and you voted and gave the permission to the Planning Commission to. pre-approve whatever they're going to approve and then it falls on your lap and yet they don't have any rights apparently because they decided they don't want to do anything or they don't want to say anything because they don't want to be the bad guy and I've been to a couple meetings and that's what happened they don't want to vote on anything because it doesn't look good for them and they want to have a perfect little record that they didn't say no or yes

Voice Ghear it at 3:05:35

So why are we even with a planning commission? We don't need them if they can't make a decision. And when if they do make a decision, you guys just go right over it so their decision didn't mean anything anyway. So why don't we just stop all this nonsense, vote with the people wanting this town and stop running us over. We don't want it. I would have guessed part of you don't want it.

Voice Uhear it at 3:05:59

And we're old. I know I'm old. I'm probably older than all of you except for John. He knows he's older than me. So that's okay. I still love him. But it makes no sense.

Voice Uhear it at 3:06:14

We've invested our time and our money and our...

Voice Vhear it at 3:06:17

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Come on up, please.

Voice A2hear it at 3:06:28

Almost afternoon, Shrihan Rao with the Western Steel Council, C-A-B-R-A-L. I'm not speaking on this matter as a... From an employment standpoint or anything else, I think it's just a practicality standpoint. 16 counties in Nevada, Nye County is the largest. The state of California has a renewable energy goal of 50% by 2030, 100% by 2050, which means that it only stands to reason that solar that's built to a scale that can feed into an interconnected grid has to be built. to reach those goals and in order to have grid reliability it can't all be in one place right so it has to be distributed out solar has a voltage drop as it moves across lines which means you need to have it you know located next to substations where it can be transferred in and put into the main grid this idea that it's all going to leave excuse me and go to California the western states have grid interconnectivity at this point and the reason that was out was done and approved actually by the California legislature last year, which was the only outstanding state, was to move the overproduction of solar out of California and into Nevada and into Oregon and other states. So that is a completely interconnected and intertied grid that exists. The more population comes about, the more we depend on things like electric vehicles and the need for electric vehicle charging stations and we ship We shift things over and your population increases, you're going to have a continuing need for electricity, which means that you have to have solar built out or wind to feed into the renewable side. So yes, these men are here to stand up for jobs, but I would remind everybody that though you may think they're outsiders, Um, and you may think that jobs are only temporary. Every wage job has an economic development multiplier of 12. That's gas, that's buying a car, that's buying lunch when they're here. That's all of the things. And you know what? Each, every person who relocated here because they loved it,

Voice A2hear it at 3:08:32

you find out that these men might do the same thing.

Voice Rhear it at 3:08:34

Thank you very much. Come on down in front, please.

Voice Ehear it at 3:08:38

Okay, I didn't want to talk about data centers, but this is connected. My name is Dave Turpin.

Voice Vhear it at 3:08:45

you spell your last

Voice Ehear it at 3:08:45

been a resident

Voice Ehear it at 3:08:46

here for 10 years.

Voice Vhear it at 3:08:47

Can you spell your last name for T us?

Voice Ehear it at 3:08:50

And there seems to be a disconnect here on the board or somewhere inside this county. If a single resident can't drill a well on a lot.

Voice Uhear it at 3:09:00

Because there isn't sufficient water, how can we allow a data center to consume millions of gallons of water? That's number one.

Voice Uhear it at 3:09:09

That's number one. Number two, I worked the last two years before I retired at the solar farm down on 95. And I was really pissed off when I found out that we were building it for Southern California Edison. And another thing, solar doesn't work when the sun goes down. We need power that works at night. Two of our biggest gas-fired plants up at Spanish Fork are 40 years old. They're at the end of their life cycle. Nobody's talking about replacing them. That's all I got.

Voice Ahear it at 3:09:50

Thank you, sir. Sam, anybody on the phone please?

Voice Yhear it at 3:09:57

And while I was working down there at that solar farm, we hauled an average of 100,000 gallons of water a day to keep the dust down. That's Nevada state law.

Voice Ahear it at 3:10:09

Okay, thank you.

Voice Yhear it at 3:10:10

You have dust on construction sites.

Voice Ahear it at 3:10:11

Thank you. Come on down in front please.

Voice Chear it at 3:10:17

Good afternoon, sharing commissioners. My name is Alison Farr, P-H-A-R-R. I'm a community organizer with Solar United Neighbors or Sun of Nevada. And as I said before, we are developer neutral, project neutral, nonpartisan. We are interested in helping Nevadan communities develop thoughtful solar policies that balance. community organizer with Solar United Neighbors or SUN of Nevada and I said as I said before we are developer neutral project neutral non-partisan we are interested in helping Nevadan communities develop thoughtful solar policies that balance local priorities and energy independence and freedom I live in Las Vegas but I'm here regularly in Prague meeting with people I have enormous respect for the people and lands of Nye County. And I want to start by saying that I'm disappointed that today's revisions of the solar ordinance do not include the town developer community benefit agreement that was requested by Beatty. From my conversations with people in Nye County, I believe it's really important for this to be considered. The communities closest to these projects are asking if these projects are coming, how are they going to harm our town, our way of life? life our people our land our wildlife and how can our community benefit from these projects and that's where community benefits come in community benefit agreements town developer agreement community-based development agreement whatever you want to call it they that's really they're really valuable because it brings the town to the table and allows them to work directly with the developer to figure out what works best for that town and that could be an annual revenue sharing That could be a town foundation or endowment. It could be emergency services, roads, workforce development, recreation, environmental restoration, or other funding for other community priorities. The point is that the community gets to co-create the development agreement with the developer. And these agreements can make for better projects as well because they create trust with the community as the developer engages early and often. So while Nye County is going to be receiving a new source of annual revenue for solar projects on BLM land that's called the Federal Solar Revenue Sharing Project, that's a significant benefit for the county, but we also need to consider the host communities as well.

Voice Chear it at 3:12:23

I emailed something in.

Voice Ahear it at 3:12:25

you. Perfect. Thanks. Come on down, please.

Voice B2hear it at 3:12:40

Yes, hello. Again, my name is Terry Joe Hook, HOOK, 23-year citizen of prompt Nevada. I oppose item seven, all three. When the Board of County Commissioners like ours abruptly attempts to change a master planned residential golf community zone to mixed use, heavy industrial, light industrial to make away from massive eyesores, they run afoul of several core. our constitutional principles. One key U.S. Supreme Court frameworks directly combat this type of predatory government rezoning alongside a standard state Supreme Court case that mirrors this scenario exactly. Sheets with a Z-S-H-E-E-T-Z versus County of El Dorado. 2004, a critical recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling dictates that legislative bodies like a BOCC are not immune to Fifth Amendment taking claims. The court unanimously held that the taking cause applies to broad legislative zoning amendments and conditions passed by county commissioners. Not just minor decisions made by administrative staff. If a BOCC uses its legislative power, voting power to strip property values, they can be held directly liable for an unconstitutional taking. The identical case, City of Las Vegas versus 180 Land Company, 2004 Nevada Supreme Court, because zoning cases usually cultivate At the state level, an absolute best case to cite for our exact situation is the landmark decision. A developer bought a defunct Badlands golf course located right outside or inside a premium master planned community and wanted to rezone it to build high density housing. The city and the surrounding homeowners entered massive litigation over the land use changes. I'd like to enter this in for the record, for the minutes, please.

Voice Ahear it at 3:14:46

Thank you very much. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 3:14:55

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice C2hear it at 3:15:02

Patricia Robb, ROBB. Just a quick question. Whatever happened with the code of the West? I think that most of the people that moved out here liked the code of the West. Where did that go? What happened? What's going on? That's my question for you.

Voice Ahear it at 3:15:24

Thanks Patricia. Come on down in front please.

Voice Ghear it at 3:15:30

Thank you, Commissioners. Carolyn Allen, A-L-E-N. I am the Town Board Chair for Amargosa.

Voice Ghear it at 3:15:39

First, I just want to make sure we're only speaking of solar, not data centers type thing. Yes,

Voice Ghear it at 3:15:46

it's getting mixed

Voice Ghear it at 3:15:49

Amargosa supports these changes because it was written and The clarifications in this are a must. We've hit some roadblocks. We've been working with this particular ordinance and we know that some things aren't right. Nye County wasn't even in it. I mean, you know, we had to put Nye County in it. We have currently been working under this ordinance and negotiating with projects for three years. The changes clarify the definitions and in most cases allow for more transparency during the process. Permit holders, the legal entity, is now no more hiding. For Amsterdam and most of District 1, these changes protect us. We have a moratorium. We had a moratorium in 2022. The BLM held an auction with three parcels, June of 23.

Voice B2hear it at 3:16:45

They didn't care about our moratorium because federal supremacy trumps everything the state and local government does. We have worked with these companies to protect Amaragosa and its interests even during the moratorium and they listened. The moratorium was lifted June 20 of 25, June 2025. Height restrictions, just to go back, the height restrictions were not lifted on utility solar projects. They were listed lifted on private property projects. So that has not been changed. Energy generated by these projects also allows perhaps VEA to buy under a PPA, a purchase power agreement. And CBAs, I have seen them written into development agreements because CBAs are very hard to...

Voice D2hear it at 3:17:39

hold legally responsible. So we're putting them in the development agreements and it's working.

Voice Rhear it at 3:17:46

Thank you very much.

Voice Ahear it at 3:17:47

Come on down and prompt, please. Apologize I don't remember your name.

Voice B2hear it at 3:17:53

Hello, I'm JoLynn Howard, H-O-W-A-R-D, District 4, 25 plus year resident.

Voice E2hear it at 3:18:02

Us Parumpians and Nye County are going to be greatly and permanently affected by the decisions you make on Bill 2026-01. I'm asking the board to vote no on these amendments. The bill proposes to gut our protective standards by removing height restrictions, loosening setback rules, and allowing sweeping variances for massive utility scale solar panels in our planning district. Section 17.10.150 completely strips away the height caps that protect our rural lifestyle, our property values, and our desert views. Furthermore, Section 17.10. In 10.140, we can see our acoustic standards. Industrial solar facilities bring heavy inverters and substations that hum constantly. Removing strict noise and physical barriers pushes these industrial eyesores right up against the residential backyards. Finally, air quality. With thousands of acres of our fragile desert crust cleared and graded, these massive projects create severe dust and particle matter. We already contend with dust storms, regional wildfire smoke, and compromising our health. Passing a bill that makes it easier to bulldoze huge swaths of land next to our homes will turn Pahrump into a permanent dust bowl. I know that there's new technology that lessens the dust matter, but to what degree I'm not sure. Hopefully someone can answer that. I respect the heck out of Local 872, and there are Local 872 workers that do live here. If the solar fields come, they'll still get the project regardless, so we need to maintain regulations for the well-being of the community. We elected you guys to protect us, the people who live here, who work here, who breathe the air here, not to clear a path for the industrial developers at our expense. Please keep our current setbacks, keep our height restrictions and protect our air. Vote no on Bill 2026-01. Thanks.

Voice Ahear it at 3:19:54

Thank you. Perfect timing. Come on down, sir.

Voice Rhear it at 3:20:00

It's Brandon Hawkins, H-A-W-K-I-N-S. I was a solar sales professional and a consultant for a long time. There's a perk and a curse to solar. First off, I swiftly get out the business in 2020 because no American companies make them anymore.

Voice Ehear it at 3:20:14

Well, there's the curves. So if you had the American companies making up, your production rate at 30 years would only go down to about 90% for degradation. While these Chinese panels and South Korean panels at 10 years are down to 40%. So it's just going to be a waste to throw it away. Now, assuming that you have it producing to the community around you, that could save over the course of 30 years almost what you would have, you know, between $60 and $70 because there's one thing you cannot change.

Voice Rhear it at 3:20:38

Every single year your kilowatt rating is going to increase. The perk to having your own free energy is that every utility company is owned by Bill Gates and the Warren Buffett's. It's a publicly traded company and there's nothing you can do about that. You should do something for yourself. So I would have a big demand to see what the production rating is, having it fair for the people in the community, have it in for that choice so it can lower everybody else's bills so they can spend more time with their families, more people can retire and buy more cool toys to go chase those old...

Voice Ehear it at 3:21:05

to little dummies right around after people or whatever so be it but i think the biggest thing is stick to american companies and know exactly what you're getting thank you

Voice Rhear it at 3:21:13

Thank you, sir. Come on down in front, please.

Voice Ehear it at 3:21:25

And one thing I haven't noticed anybody address is the fact that Trump has an established dark sky lighting ordinance and it's I'm googling it's on Google right here. It says regulated under Nye County code title 17 specifically provisions prevent I don't buy glasses I can't really see it good provisions within the prompt regional planning district zoning codes the the rules aim to protect see seeing scenic views and dark night skies from obtrusive light and what is this going to do it's going to be obtrusive light I know the data center we're not talking about but that will be too all this will be so you know got to think about our quality of our life because it is affecting our quality of life I moved from southern Oregon to come down here I don't want to move back up to Washington state but I may have to because I'll get run out I don't want to live around that stuff

Voice D2hear it at 3:22:18

So they have wind turbines up north, this thing.

Voice Ahear it at 3:22:22

Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ahear it at 3:22:31

Come on down, ma'am.

Voice D2hear it at 3:22:38

My name is Lu Komorowski.

Voice F2hear it at 3:22:41

I have been in this town,

Voice Rhear it at 3:22:43

I'm sorry, but can you, just for the record, spell your last name for me?

Voice F2hear it at 3:22:52

okay? My deep concern is health, I have been in health care, okay? I have been work in the hospital, local, everything. The fact that main concern is that There are many elderly who get a heart attack and then the bottom line is they will be flown in the helicopter of course serving life. Why is it our local hospital does not provide the intent or immediate care and they have to be flown? to Las Vegas okay now my concern is I have lived in this town built my house 25 years ago brand new pump everything two years ago I have to pay ten thousand dollars to go deeper on the water

Voice F2hear it at 3:24:03

And give me a second.

Voice F2hear it at 3:24:08

Okay. How does it affect? Is it the heat, the solar system, or everything that is related to health? My husband was flown. The Las Vegas in this, you know, the air lifted. Okay. Now, my thing is that in the solar, it affects us everything. It's relative. You and all the parents in here. The fact that what are we going to do? Are we going to allow somebody else to build in our town?

Voice Rhear it at 3:24:53

Thank you very

Voice F2hear it at 3:24:54

you. I hope, you know, you are the one that can do the things.

Voice Rhear it at 3:24:59

No, thank you. Come on down, please.

Voice Ghear it at 3:25:07

Hello, my name is Jade Vanderbeek, V-A-N-D-E-R-B-E-K. I just wanted to come up here and say, you know, how many of these people that came up here before you guys, you know, telling us these projects are good for our community actually live in this community? How many of them get their drinking water here? How many of them own homes here? How many of them are raising families here? And how many of them will still be here when the construction jobs are finished? Because there's a major difference between coming to Pahrump when billions of

Voice H2hear it at 3:25:34

millions of dollars of development, provide construction work, and actually living next to the project and dealing with its impacts for decades. If you're standing here advocating for a project that financially benefits your organization and provides work, that needs to be disclosed and understood. And if you're going to tell us Pahrump residents that this project is good for us, then again I ask, do you live here? Are local contractors and tradespeople already complaining about losing work and bids to companies? Companies coming in from Vegas. The guys in front of me, their shirts say Vegas, their hats say Colorado. Why is Trump being asked to take on all the risk, none of the reward? And yes, dirty electricity, solar farms and other electrical installations produce EMFs and harmonics through inverters, transformers, substations, transmission infrastructure. The distortion and power quality problems also affect equipment. They cause additional heating, equipment stress, reduced efficiency, malfunction and shortened equipment life. There are decades of research examining health effects associated with exposure to EMFs. There's a reason they are usually positioned far away. are away from occupied areas. If you're telling us this project poses no risk, then I want to see the harmonic studies, the EMF assessments, the power quality and analysts for all of these proposed projects. The solar, the one who shall not be named, all of them. The workers, the developers, and those traveling here for it can make their money and go home. We are the ones who have to live here with the consequences long after the construction's over. We don't get to go home somewhere else. This is our home. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 3:27:08

Thank you. Come on down, sir. Kenyon Salter, F-L-Z-E-R. You know, this reminds me of working in the movie industry, okay, because I have not heard one of these people that are for all this stuff saying, oh yeah, we have it in our backyard, we have it next door to our neighbors, because in the movie industry, we could not shoot in any producer's neighborhood because they didn't want to inconvenience their neighbors.

Voice I2hear it at 3:27:39

But these people here, they want to inconvenience us. They don't want to do it in their neighborhoods.

Voice Ahear it at 3:27:47

Thank you, sir. Come on down and prompt, please.

Voice Rhear it at 3:27:52

Hello, thank you for having me. I'm a small contractor. Sorry, Dino Child.

Voice I2hear it at 3:28:00

I'm a small contractor, small business contractor, and I travel around for the last 26 years in doing the solar industry, specializing in the environmental side, specializing in the dust control and the water. The technology and remediation methods that we've used in these smaller areas and towns and big areas as well has come a long ways. The number one concern when we're brought on for any of the people in my trade is to watch the water usage and mitigate that dust. Tenfold. The other thing that I noticed that always is a concern when we move into these areas and I'm doing work with these local areas is I'm a small business and I work with these other small businesses here. I watch them prosper over these three to five years, whatever the lifespan is, and then continue. And then the funny thing is, is I come back four or five years later. And I see these people that I've worked shoulder by shoulder with, and they have 10 to 15 times the employees they did before, nicer trucks or newer infrastructure in their buildings. It might seem like a short-term goal to the people that are here now because it hasn't come through, but go look at your quarry pits and those guys that are operating equipment, guys that have dump trucks in their yards that might be hauling horse dung to somewhere else, they're going to be busy. And those guys, they...

Voice J2hear it at 3:29:20

They're appreciative of these jobs, and being a small contractor driving around and visiting these other places as a short-term resident, I see the benefits, and I haven't really seen any of the bad stuff of the environmental side as I do deal with the water. It is a short-term water draw, but the number one thing they want to do is minimize that impact because they want to be able to come back and do this again and again if the community sees it as. It is fit. Thank you for your time.

Voice Ahear it at 3:29:46

Thank you, sir. Come on down.

Voice I2hear it at 3:29:54

William Lovgren, L-O-V-E-G-R-E-N. I'm opposing Bill 2026-01, item number seven. Good afternoon. For the record, I'm speaking in opposition for Bill 2026-01. This did not pass the Prompt Public Lands Advisory Committee. The Commissioner Deborah Strickland was the liaison and immediately after the vote she stepped out to make a phone call. Despite the committee's rejection, this ordinance is

Voice Rhear it at 3:30:08

This did not pass the prompt public lands advisory committee. The commissioner, Deborah Strickland, was the liaison, and immediately after the vote, she stepped out to make a phone call. Despite the committee's rejection, this ordinance is still being pushed forward. That raises serious procedural concerns for prompt, but the content of this bill raises even more. The bill removes prompt's planning authority. The bill states the BOCC shall. be designated as a planning authority for all areas in Nye County. This language eliminates the PRPC, the Prompt Regional Planning Commission. Prompt is the largest population center in the country. With the most developed pressure and the most residents affected by industrial scale energy projects, removing the PRPC is not a minor change. It's a structural takeover.

Voice K2hear it at 3:30:58

of Pahrump's planning authority. The town committees are being used to stimulate public review. The town committees include PPLAC, have no zoning authority, yet the bill requires a written letter from a town board. In Pahrump, the town board is the BOCC, so developers must obtain a letter from the BOCC to submit to the BOCC and receive approval from the BOCC. This is a closed loop, not public oversight, and because Accounting Manager Brett Wagner controls both town and county agendas, this routine is deliberate. Section 17.10.100 removes the applicant's signature. The bill removes the requirement for the applicant's signature. A development plan without a signature is not legally binding. That means no responsible party, no enforcement committees, no accountability, no legal attestation that direct threats prompt ability to enforce conditions and protect landowners. Mandatory development agreement for every project. The bill forces entire into a development agreement. it. I want

Voice K2hear it at 3:31:57

to put this into the record, please.

Voice Ahear it at 3:31:59

Mr. Lovegreen. Um hey Sam, my mom just texted and said that the voice is messed up online. I don't know if that's actually happening. Come on down, please. I I was trying to get the data, but it's gonna be launched.

Voice L2hear it at 3:32:15

Carla Ealy, E_L_Y_ District Four, twenty two years. I object to any of these changes to this zoning. I, too, was at the public land use committee meeting the other day where they deliberated, they voted unanimously 5-0 not to recommend this for approval. So, again, why are we discussing this again? At that meeting, they said, who wrote this, you know, and it came up a petitioner and they're like, OK, petitioner, where are you? Come and give your side. Nobody came up. So who did write this stuff? I've been in management. When I'm overhauling something, I don't just throw the thing out entirely, make all these changes at one time. You can. Consider these individually if you need to make changes, but if you need to make changes, each one should be its own agenda item and done that way so it can be deliberated thoughtfully. These are zoning protections for our community. I have been working with Clark County on building a retaining wall at my friend's place at the mountain for over a year. If you want to see some zoning requirements... those are there but they're there to protect the people they're there so I'm not infringing on the neighbor's lot when I'm building my retaining wall I'm not making all this noise or whatever these are protections for the community yet you seek to just throw them all out at one time one last thing about setbacks the racetrack I live eight miles from the racetrack. I can hear those cars run every time they're running out there. And you want to allow a 300-foot setback when eight miles isn't enough for a noisy thing? So this is a hard note for me as well.

Voice Ahear it at 3:34:18

Thank you. Come on down, Mr. Pittman.

Voice Hhear it at 3:34:24

Stephen Pitman, P-I-T-M-A-N. Three quick things. If Amargosa is in favor of this, can we carve out this bill just for Amargosa and leave Pahrump alone? Number two, if this is passed, it opens up zoning for any unnamed project coming into the area.

Voice K2hear it at 3:34:48

Number three, I'm hungry. Thank you.

Voice Chear it at 3:34:52

Let's get out of here.

Voice Ahear it at 3:34:53

Come on down.

Voice K2hear it at 3:34:59

Robert Mortonson, M-O-R-T-I-N-S-O-N. Number one, I'd like to on the record that I do not want California to fall into the ocean. I work and earn a living there. You have to travel a lot of miles if you want to make a good living, at least some people like me. And I sit here and I look at this document and it says approved signee, permit holder.

Voice Ehear it at 3:35:22

person it seems to be deliberately hiding the identity of who's trying to do this I'd like to know who is actually trying to do this when I see it an identity hitting that means I want to know who it is and I like water to come out of my faucet when I turn the faucet on I don't want these solar things cleaning all the solar panels and wasting the water so I have no water that's my top concern water

Voice Ahear it at 3:35:48

Thank you. Come on down and print, please.

Voice M2hear it at 3:35:53

Julia Musal, M-U-S-A-L-L. I wasn't going to speak on this, but, you know, it's very confusing trying to read all of this and just like someone said, why do we have all of these changes in one agenda? It's very hard to even understand it. And I just don't think there's enough information that this commission. and should agree on it today. I think that it should be removed and come back and especially who has ever heard of anybody filling out an application or anything and then not signing it. No, that's unacceptable and we should all know. We're talking about transparency. Well, there is no transparency right here. here we need to know who wants this well we can all guess who it is because this has to do with the next agenda so anyway there's just too many unanswered questions here so you know I grew up in Sonoma County and believe this or not you would think it is wine country but growing up Those vineyards, they were prune orchards. They were not vineyards and as beautiful as they are, they destroyed all of our country in California. I'm from Northern California, but I will not ever go back there because it has changed. And it destroyed all the towns. So if we build one solar farm, guess what? More are going to come in. So this is a desert. This is a desert. It's beautiful. We don't need to be ruining it. I've been here 26 years and I want to stay here.

Voice Ahear it at 3:37:59

Come on down, sir. Thank you, Board of Commissioners. My name is Lee Craiglow, C-R-E-I-G-L-O-W. I'm a landowner and resident in District 1. Only question I have, it's a procedural thing. I don't expect an answer at this time, but I've heard numerous comments about the lack of a signature required on an application. I've worked 40 years in public administration community development never once have I heard that a signature on an application is allowed it is required under Nevada state law under 278 all land-use applications do require a signature it's only a question I'm sure it'll be addressed through your legal channels but I wanted to bring that point up thank you

Voice Rhear it at 3:38:48

Thank you, sir.

Voice Ahear it at 3:38:50

Chris, you got something for us? Excuse me.

Voice K2hear it at 3:38:55

Sorry, I know we're all tired and hungry. Chris Lally, L-A-L-L-Y. I just wanted to bring something up that another resident brought up, the fellow in the leather vest, which I thought the technological aspect of this is being ignored. So that previous speaker. raise a really important point about long-term performance and I by the way I'm not ignoring any of the how would this affect the community but everybody else was very well spoken about that and I don't want to repeat my two minutes here Solar panels don't suddenly become useless, the Department of Energy notes that PV modules commonly degrade at about half a percent a year, but heat, dust, maintenance and equipment replacement all affect lifetime output and cost. So if we're setting the rules for these projects today, I'd like to see applicants required to disclose their expected degradation rate, projected output over the full life of the project and the maintenance and replacement assumptions. specifically for our desert climate because what I know from a client of mine who in real estate who used to write energy policy for the government sorry solar panel folks who actually have solar panels they don't last terribly long in terms of efficiency and So I think we should be very cautious about removing or, you know, waiving protections now that could have broader consequences for future projects. But I'm also concerned about loosening the height restrictions in this ordinance.

Voice N2hear it at 3:40:26

While this language in the item here applies to solar infrastructure, not industrial buildings themselves, these systems can become part of a much larger industrial development kind of trend. So I think we should be very cautious about removing or waiving the protections. But in essence here, we shouldn't evaluate a 25 or 30-year project based only on its day one generating capacity. And we should not loosen development standards without being very clear about how they will be used later. That's what I wanted to mention. Thank you.

Voice Rhear it at 3:40:59

Thank you. Perfect timing. Come on down, ma'am.

Voice M2hear it at 3:41:04

Lisa Himby, H-E-M-B-Y. I live in Nye County in Pahrump for the last four years. And I am not in favor of any changes to Title 17 that make it easier for solar farms.

Voice O2hear it at 3:41:19

meta waste or the unmentionable to be fast tracked through and make it easier. I agree with the comments made by Ms. Matthews, Dwight Lilly, Cheryl Varkalas, and JoLynn Howard. And I think there need to be tighter restrictions to protect us from these industrial monstrosities. I, like others, came to Pahrump to retire. I do not want any of these things built, which will destroy our quality of life as well as our health. Please vote no. And I just want to leave you with this. It's like the neighbor's cat using your yard as its litter box.

Voice Ahear it at 3:42:13

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone? We have

Voice Chear it at 3:42:15

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice L2hear it at 3:42:22

Jeanne Wright, W-R-I-G-H-T.

Voice P2hear it at 3:42:26

As a longtime Pahrump resident, over 22 years, and a business owner, I, you know, just want to reiterate what pretty much everyone who lives in Pahrump has said, no, this is not something that is acceptable to us. And with all due respect to the union workers, you guys are going to get the job no matter where they build these things. You know they're going to build them somewhere, but not here. Here, this is not the right space for us to do this. I mean, it's really ridiculous. And I nearly laughed myself out of my chair when the lady from the steel, she says, oh, California, listen, let's not do anything like California, okay? I mean, come on, let's get a grip here. And you guys apparently want to hear more no's. So again, it's a no because everyone's already. already given you all the reasons that this is a no so it's a definite no so please respect the land advisory committee telling you guys no and I want to bring up staff like staff is writing these things who is directing staff on what the community wants right you guys are all listening oh we have to do what staff says we have to Really? Huh. Since it's not what the people want, it really doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Thanks for your time. Have a great day.

Voice Ahear it at 3:43:56

Thank you, Sam. Anybody else, please?

Voice Chear it at 3:43:58

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice K2hear it at 3:44:06

I, Tim Bohannon, D-O-H-A-N-N-O-N, have got the town board rep.

Voice Q2hear it at 3:44:12

from arrogance but it kind of leads out appropriately we're trying to do a town ordinance snapshot with the county county field so splitting that up would be more appropriate carving it out and I think Steve mentioned that carving it out is absolutely appropriate And I share Steve's thoughts about lunch. But bottom line is it's not quite ready. Let's clean up a little bit more. And then I think you know pretty much where the community stands. We know where the union stands. But the union doesn't live here. And we do. Tim Bohannon, BOHA, NNOM District 5.

Voice Ahear it at 3:45:03

Thank you, Sam. Anybody else, please?

Voice Chear it at 3:45:05

Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice R2hear it at 3:45:12

Hello, Commissioners. Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. Can you hear me okay?

Voice Ahear it at 3:45:17

Go right ahead, sir.

Voice R2hear it at 3:45:20

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Maybe next time we can cut it down to a minute, then we can get it real short. Whatever works for y'all. It's obviously there's a pattern and tendency of not listening to the people and not listening to the Constitution. And I want to start off by giving everybody that showed up and spoke great, great respect for articulating the constitutionality of it. And kudos to the speaker that was allowed to express the fraudulent process and all this as well as. The one speaker that pointed out Badlands, which I've also spoke, Nye County has only liquid $350 million in that $280 million verdict when it came to rezoning Badlands was a gift that should have cost Clark County $1.5 billion. So I think we really need to examine the liability side of it. And I don't know about y'all, but I'm sure excited about the potential of a sheriff coming in that knows the difference between statutes, rules, and ordinances. Thank y'all.

Voice Ahear it at 3:46:24

Thank you. Go ahead, Helene.

Voice M2hear it at 3:46:27

Thank you. I'm hungry too, but I do like.

Voice Ahear it at 3:46:33

Got to spell it.

Voice M2hear it at 3:46:35

I do like the water turning on when I have a shower. I do like the water flushing when I use the bathroom. I do like the water running when I want a drink of water at the faucet in the kitchen. Do you like the water when all those things you're doing? I don't think so. You're giving it away. Not just to development, not to solar, to everything else. Please stop. I serve as the chair of the Nyack County Waters District. I'm 80, sorry. I jabber a little. Thank you.

Voice M2hear it at 3:47:14

And thank you.

Voice Hhear it at 3:47:15

Come on down, sir.

Voice N2hear it at 3:47:21

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Lou DiSalvo for the record. That's D-E-S-A-L-V-I-O. I am the president of Labor's Local 872. We are here today because we represent hundreds of members that live in your community, not just the laborers, but you're talking 19 or 18 other trades that have people that live here. So there's thousands of members that live here on top of retirees that live here. And the reason why we're here is because this provides an opportunity for those members, not just with Local 872, but other unions, to be able to work where they live. Right now you say, okay, we got hundreds of members, Lou, where are they at? Well, they're all in Vegas or they're all working at the areas that don't exist or they're all working at Creech because those are the kind of the closest places around here to where they could still travel and still maybe be home within an hour or so. so of their time. So the reason why I stand here today is this is an opportunity to now create jobs. And, you know, I said here early this morning, I listened to the undersheriff say he needs another officer. I listened to about a splash pad that should have been a pad sounds more like a mat. This is an opportunity. An opportunity right now for you guys to generate probably close to over $3 million a year for your bottom line. And you have the ability, now hold on a second,

Voice N2hear it at 3:48:42

the ability to do what a lady stated probably five or six speakers ago, a community development agreement, which this community has the ability to get with the elected officials and say, you know what, I need a hospital. I just heard a lady say to her husband how to be flown to Vegas because you don't have the proper necessities here. Well, that development agreement can bring those necessities. Guys, guys.

Voice Hhear it at 3:49:05

You have the ability to control what comes here. Now, I don't know if anybody pays attention here, but you see what happened in Boulder City. They said no to a solar farm or a data center. BLM said, you know what, I'll do it. There's nothing stopping BLM from coming in and assigning that.

Voice Hhear it at 3:49:23

don't blow away that opportunity to create.

Voice Ahear it at 3:49:27

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Thank you.

Voice Chear it at 3:49:29

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice R2hear it at 3:49:36

Paul Lemus, L-E-M-U-S. I'm a Nevada real estate licensee 47810 and I also sat on the planning committee board and formed that planning committee for the town of Emmergosa. And I assure you, we do not want this national monument corridor what they're trying to do to take our lands right now. This is not what Emmergosa wants either. We have one town board chairman who is unilaterally operated and started acting outside her town.

Voice S2hear it at 3:49:53

Not once this national monument corridor, what they're trying to do to take our lands right now. This is not what Amar Gosa wants either. We have one town board chairman who is unilaterally operated and started acting outside her town board's authority and going ahead and cutting deals and working with these people and taking courses of action. They're meeting, representing herself and introducing herself as the town board chairman. This is unilateral. lateral operations our town has not authorized this we haven't voted on this it hasn't been an agenda item this is something that miss carolyn allen has done on her own and attempted to start working deals with solar companies and and the type agreement but anthony is on to something but i'm talking about let's redirect that why should it be a community benefit agreement we're the people We own the land. If we own the land, why would we give you even the authority to make the decision on the land? We're the people. We own the water. The people and the water belongs to the people. These were written in the land patents. When the state of Nevada was originally formed, it came from the Utah territory. These things were traded off. There was parts that stayed with the land for the people and parts that went to pay back. Another portion of it became the state of Nevada, which was given back to the people of the state of Nevada. BLM even has no authority in our land, but we give you guys the right to decide after we're $13 million in debt. We make our own decisions right here as the people right now, but we don't authorize Carolyn to do what she's doing.

Voice Ehear it at 3:51:33

Thanks, Paul. And, Phrump, come on down.

Voice Chear it at 3:51:42

Nicole Ryan R-Y-A-N. I wasn't going to talk because I really just want to get to the next point where we're all here for and we've been here for hours for to watch. But that slash gentleman, I can't believe as a president he would speak for all unions because if that was the case then all unions would be backing him and all presidents would also be submitting information to back him. So that was just reprehensible. Now living in a world of fallacies, that's just wow, amazing. It's like watching a movie unfold, right? But the fact of the matter is, is we, Trumpians, are not okay with this. This is not what we want. The people don't want it. You don't live here. You're not a Nye County resident. You're honestly, you have no skin in the game besides to make money off of us. And that's just disgusting and reprehensible because ultimately it comes down to affecting our future and our children. And I'm just not okay with anybody who thinks they're better than the future that is coming. when you don't care about what the residents are saying. You don't own land here. You don't own water here. So therefore, your point means absolutely nothing. You're going to make the money and leave while we are stuck dealing with what you do to us. It's not you who suffers. It's you who profits. So therefore, if you're going to make a profit and not stand here and suffer with us, just please close your mouth. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 3:52:57

Thanks. Come on down in front, please.

Voice Chear it at 3:53:02

Brandy McLemore. It's Brandy with an I and M-C-K-L-E-M-U-R-R-Y. I also was not going to speak. I was here for the next item, but after he spoke, my husband is part of the Teamsters 631 and he works on the test site and we're very thankful that he has the job that he has. And the people I feel like who work there know that there are benefits to working there that they don't have working other places. My husband's job is unique. He wouldn't be able to have it other places. I also know that not only does one union president not speak for all of the unions, but also sometimes. The unions don't represent what all of the members would agree with as well. So I don't know what the Teamster 631 would say about the solar thing, but I do know that we need to be very careful about development here. And I also know if we're willing to spend over $300,000 on a splash pad. That was not done properly. If funds are going to be mismanaged that way, why are we going to do something that is going to provide more funds to people who have clearly not been able to manage them well in the first place? Thanks.

Voice Ahear it at 3:54:34

Thank you. Sam, do we have more on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 3:54:37

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ahear it at 3:54:42

I don't know if we're going to get the data today.

Voice S2hear it at 3:54:46

Hi, Randy Tyler calling in. Been here for 11 years now. More of just a complaint more so than anything.

Voice Ahear it at 3:54:57

I'm so sorry, sir, but would you spell

Voice Ahear it at 3:54:59

the record, please?

Voice S2hear it at 3:55:05

Anything that you guys are trying to bring into town here that require water use when we have limited water quantities makes absolute zero sense. There's other ways to bring in revenue. There's all kinds of paths you guys could take instead of doing what you're doing. Essentially, you've led me to sell my properties that I own here, and I'm looking to just move out of state. It's obvious that there's a lot of corruption going on in Nevada here, in Nye County, that is extremely frustrating, and I would imagine that a lot of residents agree with me. You have to decide for the people. which to me is completely wrong. You shouldn't be deciding for the people. You guys should be putting this to a vote for the people to decide on. I say no to all of the agendas you guys are going for today. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 3:56:05

Thanks. Come on down, sir.

Voice T2hear it at 3:56:10

Thank you, Boyd. I wasn't going to speak today either, but I feel the need to. I'm a very short-term Trumpian.

Voice Rhear it at 3:56:18

Can you spell your last name for

Voice T2hear it at 3:56:20

Balarge, B-E-L-A-R-G-E for same statement. I'm a very short-time Trumpian, three years. I moved here to retire and to have our way of life that everybody's been speaking of, okay? I've been to a few of these board members' meetings, pardon me, and we've been trying to stack the deck for certain entities to come in. people in orange okay they're obviously looking for work today because they don't have it they there's 30 or 40 of them sitting here today and they're sitting around because they want work here in our community They obviously don't have enough work in Las Vegas. So either they're not very good at what they do or they're just getting paid to be here and stack the deck. I don't know which one it is and I really don't care. I'm a New Yorker, I tell it like it is. I don't think that anybody here that lives in Pahrump wants this to happen. You know, whether it be the unknown that's going to be coming up in the next couple of minutes or hours, as it may be, or the data centers. And I hope you people really listen to what the people here in Pahrump have to say. And I think it's imperative that we keep our way of life here in our small little community. So thank you for my time.

Voice Hhear it at 3:57:31

Thank you. Come on down, Dan.

Voice S2hear it at 3:57:37

dampen opine a you I'm a 28 year resident of Nye County and I stand behind the people of this county that do not want the solar thank you very much

Voice Ahear it at 3:57:47

Thank you. Is Sam anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Chear it at 3:57:49

Yes, chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ahear it at 3:57:53

I guess they don't want data today.

Voice U2hear it at 3:57:56

Hi, my name is Heather Marquez, M-A-R-Q-U-E-Z, and this is to address specifically the comments that we're speaking for the hundreds of labor union workers. They're talking about the jobs that would be generated by this project, and I wanted to take the time to point out that a friend and I toured. The proposed copper raised facility, we spoke with them and asked them all the questions. One question that I asked specifically was about the jobs they say copper raised would generate because they're advertising between 300 and 400 jobs. I want to specify that the number of permanent jobs generated by this project are between five and eight. That's less than 10 permanent jobs that would be generated by this project. So So these hundreds of jobs that they're advertising that this would bring to Pahrump, they're all temporary. They're all construction jobs. They're going to come and they're going to go. The only people that are going to have a permanent job from this project, it's less than 10. They also admitted while I'm here that they have not been a part of this industry long enough to actually see any of these projects be decommissioned. So any decommissioning, any recycling, it's all theoretical. at this point. They have no actual data about the decommissioning of this 30-year project. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 3:59:21

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Ehear it at 3:59:26

Hello there. My name's Kelly Stilwell and STILLWELL. And I am a retired member of 872, and I have been a member for 49 years now, and I've lived in Las Vegas and here since 1964. And so I've watched Las Vegas go from 100,000 people when I was a kid to 2,700,000. And yes, I made a good living doing that, but I've also watched Lake Mead and Lake Powell go down at the same time. And we really, I believe our planet needs solar energy jobs. Our union puts in all the solar fields. So I'm really pro for solar energy, but I'm against the data centers. And so the data centers represent artificial intelligence. But besides that, the lady in the glasses here, I had gave her a handout that I wanted you guys to get from the ASU. And there's a gentleman that is probably the smartest man in the world on water. And there's less water. If you think Lake Mead and Lake Powell are empty, the groundwater is really gone in the western United States. So if we do the data center thing.

Voice T2hear it at 4:01:11

We're all going to be moving, you know, and so that's the story. I mean, do you want to move from here? I'm thinking about moving to

Voice T2hear it at 4:01:21

Tennessee because and selling out now because that's where the water is going to be.

Voice Hhear it at 4:01:28

Okay, thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone? And we can't talk, we can't talk.

Voice Ahear it at 4:01:39

Go ahead, sir.

Voice T2hear it at 4:01:40

Yeah, my name is Jake Macias, M-A-C-I-A-S. I just want to thank the people of Peron. Thank you for your hospitality. I really mean it. We love you guys, all those guys in the orange shirts. We're going to go to a restaurant right now and drop at least 300 bucks. Okay, 300 bucks. We're going to probably fill our gas tanks. You

Voice T2hear it at 4:02:02

know, we're going to probably, well, we can't gamble because we're on the clock.

Voice Hhear it at 4:02:06

Hold, please. Hold, please. How come you want respect when you're speaking, but you don't give anybody else respect?

Voice T2hear it at 4:02:11

Oh, it's all right.

Voice Hhear it at 4:02:12

No, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about them.

Voice T2hear it at 4:02:15

But I've been a member of 872 for 35 years. And me and these guys in the orange shirts, we really, I mean, we work hard. We just walked a solar panel dry lake yesterday and it really makes me proud of my members not only because they have a job but they can you know take their families to good restaurants you know take their families on vacations. So what I'm saying here is that this and I'm pretty sure the majority of you guys are retired and you guys probably build bridges, build it somewhere and you guys are here retired. So it's going to be a good thing for the economy. So please vote yes on it. Thank you.

Voice Rhear it at 4:03:07

Thank you. Does anyone anybody on the phone please?

Voice Ahear it at 4:03:14

Closing, did he already talk on this one? No. Come on up, sir.

Voice T2hear it at 4:03:20

Ron Richardson, R-I-C-H-A-R-D-S-O-N. Just for the record, I oppose the changes on the, regarding the solar. That's it. Just I oppose it for record. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 4:03:36

Thank you. Now we're closing public comment. Hold on, there's one more public comment. No, I'm talking about Sam. There's somebody on the phone. One more and that's it. We're done.

Voice Chear it at 4:03:51

Thank you, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice S2hear it at 4:03:58

Paul Lemus, I already spoke earlier, but I had a quick question.

Voice Ahear it at 4:04:02

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Closing public comment. Closing public comment. Go ahead, Celeste.

Voice Chear it at 4:04:11

Celeste Sandoval, Assistant Planning Director, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L. Our intention when we brought this back was to just adjust some of the waiver section where it made it impossible to allow applicants to apply. Based on review with the DA's office, it basically prohibited them to move forward. So that's what our intent was in 150. I did want to address some comments, just to clear some things up. We're removing the verbiage variance because Nye County code does not reference anything that has to do with a variance. We've always called it a waiver. So we're trying to just keep all the verbiage the same throughout all of Nye County code.

Voice V2hear it at 4:05:00

Applicant signature. So we still have an absolute requirement for applicants signature. However, all of our applications are digital. everything is through the OpenGov portal so when you're saying requiring a signature that would be if we were requiring a paper documentation where it has to be physically signed they cannot submit without a physical signature they cannot submit an online application without acknowledging signing they're the property owner the power of attorney anything without that signature so It doesn't have to be in this verbiage because it's a requirement. They can't submit anything. The public line advisory committee, it is an advisory committee to the board. I'm not sure why they brought this to their board for discussion. Maybe they did want to bring a recommendation to you all, but they did not reach out to the planning department to ask to have any type of comment in the backup. for clarification. We are not removing height, setback, or distance requirements. We are correcting errors in verbiage requirements. It left out a letter. It left out the word distance. But those waiver requirements are already existing in code. We were just adding all of the letters. development agreement is still a requirement we just changed from where it's required in the document to another section so it's still a requirement no matter what we just moved it up in the application process within the PRPD solar is already a required of one mile and outside it's a half mile that's that's already in the code it's been that way But they have that option for a waiver to change that at the purview of the boards. The DA's office has reviewed this exact language in January. The only thing that District Attorney Kinsey did review is the three additional comments from the last board meeting that Deborah asked that the Beatty Town Advisory Board had requested. That's all. Community development agreements can be requested by the town boards in their letter to the Board of County Commissioners. So that's why that verbiage was not added into the section of code. 1710-090, all the authority of approval or denial of this code is by the BOCC. Removing the table 1710-080, it's at the SUP approval process that the board will decide whether or not the project is permissible or allowable in that area. Seventeen oh four one forty for the sound pressure test. All we're doing there is removing that the planning department has to do it and it's putting it back on the developer. This is a Nye County code, so this does not go to the RPC. It is at the purview of the Board of County Commissioners. If it was a strict prop regional planning district, it would go to the PRPC. Before to you guys, the town letter that is required for all outside the Trump Regional Planning District as you are the authority for within the town. This ordinance was distributed outside our office to developers, stakeholders for their comments, just for clarification on that end. We're here for any. Comments, questions?

Voice Ahear it at 4:08:48

Thank you, Celeste. Commissioners, I've got a comment before you guys go, if that's okay. So, public comments closed. I'm sorry. So look, I've always been against the solar being right up next to the road or even inside the Trump Regional Planning District since I...

Voice T2hear it at 4:09:14

started this I don't like it I go to Laughlin all the time and I have to look at that garbage on both sides of the road not even 100 feet off the road it's disgusting when I drive to Vegas I've lived here a long time and the mountains were so beautiful to look I mean as you're going both sides

Voice Ahear it at 4:09:35

I also know people very high up, all the way to the governor's office and very high up in Clark County, who have told me, and we're in this together, whether you agree with a lot of things I do or don't, this is one we're in together. But I have been told by two different people. all the way to the governor's office and very high up in Clark County, who have told me, and this is, we're in this together, whether you agree with a lot of things I do or don't, this is one we're in together. But I have been told by two different people that from the Clark County Nye County line all the way to the base of the hill, on both sides we're getting either data and or solar. And it's going to be plastered and there's not a damn thing any of us can do about it because it is not our, hold on, it is not our county. We can try to fight and sue Clark. I mean, I don't know what the hell that costs, but this is, we are in this together. I have no problem with solar if it's out of view. I don't. If it's outside of where we all live and work and function each day, because there are folks who do want it, but I don't want to see it. I hate having to look at it going to Vegas, but I can't stop that. So I just want to make that clear. Commissioners, go right ahead.

Voice Hhear it at 4:10:49

Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Celeste, for a lot of the clarification, and I'd like just to ask, Orange, are you glad that I wore yellow today? So the general health and welfare, Celeste, is very, very important to all of us. here in Pahrump and Nye County, throughout Nye County. Some of the information that was expressed over the phone is not true. People work very hard in their respective communities representing their communities as we're trying to represent and we do represent right now this community and Nye. So if this is just cleanup, sounds like it is just cleanup because of most of your clarification, then was this necessary to bring it back again, especially after you're saying yes? Okay, hold on. Manager, please. On August 11th, and a lot of you folks think that we know everything, we don't know everything. I certainly don't know everything. I didn't know, I wasn't aware until today that they met August 11th and rejected it unanimously 5-0. I was not aware of that. Was it too late to generate backup according to our, what's that? Well, okay, thank you. So again, if Commissioner X is the liaison to a committee, Commissioner X is only allowed to speak to one other Commissioner Y? And I was not why. Okay? So she's not allowed as that liaison to call every single one of us and tell us what happened at that meeting. But this is a little concerning because if it was important enough to take it to the Land Advisory Committee, and I understand it's an advisory committee. It should have been so important to us, all of us, and to the public to request that we accept additional backup, even at the last hour. It's still very important. But it came out, and that's okay. It's part of the transparency. And I'm not admonishing you, Celeste, but this is information that the public needs to know, we need to know, and we didn't until now, which really throws a wrench in the wheel because we've heard the public, excuse the expression, outcry, the community's passion, and we're going to hear more of it today.

Voice Chear it at 4:14:10

Can I address?

Voice Chear it at 4:14:12

So the planning department did not ask any of the boards to hear this. I don't know who did, and I didn't hear about it or even see that it was on anybody's agenda until it came across Facebook and I saw this weekend. So if any, if we would have known, we could have reached out to anyone to request information, but the planning department did not know about it.

Voice Hhear it at 4:14:36

Okay, well thank

Voice Ahear it at 4:14:38

answer your other

Voice Hhear it at 4:14:39

go ahead, manager.

Voice Ahear it at 4:14:40

In regards to why this is back on the agenda, that was actually a request from Commissioner Koenig, because at the time this was heard before the board, in your guys' hard copy backup, it didn't identify by blue or red ink. It was all black

Voice Ahear it at 4:14:58

so he had not had an opportunity to review the changes at that point,

Voice Ahear it at 4:15:05

so he asked for it to come back.

Voice Hhear it at 4:15:07

Well, thank you for that clarification, and I'll turn it back over to you, Chair, so we can hear from Commissioner Conan.

Voice Ahear it at 4:15:13

Mr. K, let's hear it. What do you got?

Voice Ehear it at 4:15:19

I did ask for it to come back because I couldn't tell what the changes that were made were. Now if you'd like a motion.

Voice Ahear it at 4:15:31

Whatever you want to do.

Voice Rhear it at 4:15:33

I would like to, if I could very

Voice Rhear it at 4:15:35

I'm going to try to be very polite and brief on this. Just some of the concerns that I have with this, the annual renewal has been altered, changed in this document so that instead of having a special use permit expiring after five years and then going before the board, it now is accepted upon deemed completed. uh on application I believe. So it takes it out of the hands of the commissioners uh it appears to, at least from what it looks like here. Um the other thing I don't like is I also see a transferability of special use permit approved by commissioners is crossed out and it's been replaced um by uh and some administrative remedy here. And what happens with Defining this new approved assignee here is you have something called an approved assignee and they are exempt from certain things such as financial criteria that normally they would have to go through. And there's I have so many notes here and I don't want to get too deep I'm just explaining what my concerns are with this one of the things about approve to sign either I don't like it's a person a person someone who who purchases it in foreclosure or purchases in bankruptcy someone spoke up about a development agreement Well, so you get a company and you agree on a development agreement We're gonna get ten million dollars, you know hundred million dollars. Hey great and then they get a finders fee from someone I don't want to say what may happen in another item, so I'll stop there. But if you get a fine restriction from someone knowing they're not going to develop a solar field, they then sell it off to ABC Venture Capital Firm, sweeps in with all this money. And at that point, if that development agreement was handled by the developer who got the finder's fee, and it goes to bankruptcy court. Anyone who's ever practiced before a federal bankruptcy court may intervene here. Other than that, I'm not interested in your opinion. If it goes before a federal bankruptcy court, that judge can set aside that development agreement and say, I know you have an agreement for $100 million, but... I'm not going to give you that. And according to your own law here, it says anybody who purchased out of foreclosure, they don't even have to go through the financial statement analysis. So I'm going to award this to the venture capital company they come in or whatever the budding venture VC firm or whoever buys it, they don't have to prove that they can do anything. They could set aside the development agreement completely according to our rules. And there's nothing we can do. And so it just, again, it's a really complicated bankruptcy. I know you probably have a bunch of experts in bankruptcy law here, and I don't want to waste your time on that. But I just don't know if anybody has the answer to that. And the only other thing, it's just sort of interesting, I looked at this, I don't know where, Section H. It says it was approved by Nye County Director of Planning, and now it says Nye County Planning Director or designee. And I just, it was late at night, I think I wrote in here Fall. fall guy with an arrow there to the designee it's the way i look at government it's not this government or these people or this planning director it's just i've been looking at this stuff almost 30 years i've been fighting government i mean just all over the country coast to coast now so it's not to take personally but when i see something like that hey the director or the designee and it's like hey stan in the front office did that oh yeah we're stan i think he quit actually last week oh boy well Hello, the golly, I'm glad Stan's gone, but now the designee takes the fall or is fired. And there's no accountability. I just don't like these changes. I haven't really heard anything substantive that it makes it easier or better. And I've asked a bunch of people and I don't know if people are scared to talk to me about it or what, but I just don't like these things. These things make me concerned and I won't say it, but there's some things, these same things are in another law that we may be looking at that make me concerned. I don't know. So that's it. Mr. Chairman,

Voice Ahear it at 4:19:36

Thank you for that. So without, if this passes or doesn't pass, it doesn't change solar

Voice Ahear it at 4:19:48

We're still, no, it's all still, and we're fighting a force that's bigger than us here in Nye County. We are.

Voice Ghear it at 4:19:57

Well, we have don't we, Chair, don't we have a lot of um approved because they purchased it through BLM in Amagosa for example.

Voice Ghear it at 4:20:06

We have w we have now we're creating the laws, the rules that say how those will be

Voice Ahear it at 4:20:13

What they can

Voice Ghear it at 4:20:13

what they can and can't do. And so without these provisional changes that the margins of of They have more levity than we had wanted. We wanted more control. And so we can't stop what's already happened. Nevada Energy owns that land, as just one example, that they can move forward with their project under what we currently have. This is the changes to clean up the language, and that's what we

Voice Chear it at 4:20:44

clean up and then there's additions.

Voice Chear it at 4:20:48

I wanted to address the term the special use permit for you. So it does expire in five years, unless an extension of time application is received. And we added in the deemed complete within 30 days because all other sections of Nye County code where they have to have an application in, it has to be 30 days prior to expiration. And if it's not deemed complete by that within that 30 days prior, then it It's gone and they have to completely reapply.

Voice Rhear it at 4:21:15

Everybody's administrative, correct? It's not us. I mean you're taking it out of our hands and then what you could do is with the right people cooperating you create this sort of like, it's like the credit default swaps that everyone doesn't really understand that happened back in 2009 that took out Lehman Brothers. It's like that. You're going to create a market of all these people. Hey, I've been sitting on a special use permit in Nye County for 45 years and every five years the admin lady goes and stamps or the designee, you know, Hank in the front. The front office stamps it and it's okay. I don't like that.

Voice Chear it at 4:21:41

So the extension of time would come back to the board of county commissioners for approval.

Voice Rhear it at 4:21:46

Where is that?

Voice Ahear it at 4:21:48

It's in there, sir, in that paragraph. It's the same exact process that an SUP for a cannabis facility has. If their SUP expires, they have to go back to the board for an extension. The 30 days part was just about the application has to be submitted and deemed complete within 30 days, otherwise it won't move forward.

Voice Rhear it at 4:22:16

So why is it not just expired after five years? Why does it go through this extension application? What's the benefit to anyone, to us or to whomever?

Voice Ahear it at 4:22:26

That's left for the board to determine at the time it comes back to the board if there's a benefit to give them the extension or not.

Voice Rhear it at 4:22:34

Some of the problems that I'm concerned with is just from reading the law for, you know, a lot of times that there's sort of this presumption in my opinion that hey if I have an a permit that just expires and it's gone after five years I think the courts will look at that one way like hey it's expired it's gone but if it's well but on the application then then on application it's deemed completed so it goes from it's just gone forever till well it's it's in completed stage a lot of people don't realize like when you buy a house you have something called equitable interest in the house before you even take and take possession of equitable interest in the house. And what that means is that you have an interest in what goes on in the house. Even though you bought it on the first, you're not moving in until the 30th, something happens on the 15th or something with the home, you have an equitable interest in it. And what I'm concerned about is it sets up a very complicated equitable interest that is not there if it just completely expires. And I'm really not pulling fingers. I get how these things work and I've watched these networks of... of agency or usually it's a non-profit national and they sort of do things in slight ways to move things in the benefit of certain people and away from citizens and it's just I see some of that in the language if someone sat there in their laptop and really in here and just kind of typed it alone well then I apologize but it just looks like it's a little lifted from somebody's like model rules anybody ever noticed either the criminal code is the same from state to state oh how could that be it's because they have these model rules rules, and they come and they adopt these model rules. And so it almost feels like that, like we're sort of adopting something that sets up an equitable end to the DA left. I know I can't ask you about that, but it sets up this equitable interest that I don't like. And I'm not saying there's anything nefarious. I don't think anyone's sitting in a room, you know, with a candle lit trying to figure out how to cash in. I'm just saying I don't like that. That makes me really uncomfortable setting up that potential equitable interest. And that's all. But thank you for addressing it. I really do think. We do thank you.

Voice Chear it at 4:24:23

I also want to point out that in current Nye County code, it only states unless a further extension is mutually agreed upon by the applicant and BOCC. So with us stating that they have to apply for an extension of time application and have it deemed complete, there's a paper trail. There's the applying.

Voice Rhear it at 4:24:42

Right, and that's what I don't like. The paper trail is something they can use to exploit to their benefit. Well, hey, we got this paper trail. I mean, if I go and apply for a license somewhere, a law license in Connecticut, and they stamp it and go, okay, he's in consideration. Well, now I'm being in consideration for a law license in Connecticut. But they say, whoa, I can't even take that. That's different. And that's how I see the first thing. So that doesn't make me more comfortable. It makes me less comfortable. But thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 4:25:06

I just want to clarify one thing real quick. So last week, the governor, Lombardo, that I voted for. Just congratulated the heck out of the Clark County Commission for a massive scale data, or I'm sorry, solar project out here on the way to Vegas, which I also don't like. It's crap. Anyway, go ahead, sorry. So the only thing I was going to add to is there's questions on why, you know, I know from the audience, you know, you're going in, you're changing stuff. Well, as applications get processed, just like the cannabis, you know, cannabis under my, when I was the planning director, came to the board six times. With changes that, you know, as laws change or as, you know, processes change, any of that, so that is all that was intended to happen with this is the first application, Saccharobates Flats, it came through the system, there were some things that were noticed that needed to be fixed. We had another application or just several meetings with another applicant that was trying to go through the variance process. And again, it needed to be fixed because we have a lot of absentee owners and stuff around here. Commissioners, we got to do something. Commissioner Koenig?

Voice Ghear it at 4:26:55

We have to okay so the the deal is that we have an existing ordinance that's for all of Nye County and we have citizens that are concerned about the PRPD and this is not approving any application anywhere all it's doing is setting the guidelines so the P we

Voice Ahear it at 4:27:15

What's your name?

Voice Ghear it at 4:27:15

don't have an application in front of us. We have a process, an ordinance in front of us, and that's what I think was a lot of confusion for the public is they thought, well, we're talking about some specific project. We're not. There's several projects throughout Nye County that

Voice Ghear it at 4:27:32

is under concern. And so we're trying to set guidelines. And we can go with keeping this ordinance just like it is.

Voice Ghear it at 4:27:39

It's in place. All it's worth, this ordinance is already in place. What we're doing is we're changing verbiage. Wrong or right?

Voice Ghear it at 4:27:57

I'm asking the board, do you see this as changing, this is an existing ordinance, and you're being asked to change verbiage within the ordinance. And this ordinance affects all of Nye County, which we already have an applicant that's in the process in Sacrobata's flats. All right, I'll make the motion. I make a motion to adopt Nye County Bill Number 2026-01. Do we have an

Voice Ahear it at 4:28:26

about the added, there was some added language in there? In regard that came through the letter from Beatty.

Voice Ghear it at 4:28:34

I've considered that. I've spoken with Beatty. I've spoken with Amagosa. I've done a lot of due diligence, did a comparative on both of their C and D were their main concerns within the body of this. Uh seventeen point ten dot dash one five and I see no reason to make any change. I would confer, I would refer to Commissioner Jabor on that after I r if they would care to.

Voice Hhear it at 4:29:01

Oh. Thank you, Commissioner. In regards to the respective communities. As I've said before, every community needs to stay in their lane. They have jurisdictional authority over their boundaries and not the rest of the county. They can make their recommendations and part of the recommendation today here in chambers was, are we allowed to carve out the other communities away from Pahrump. County. They can make their recommendations and part of the recommendation today here in Chambers was are we allowed to carve out the other communities away from Pahrump because this is a Nye County ordinance, Title 17. And so to just do the broad stroke of of the motion and no disrespect Commissioner but but it is inappropriate to recommend things for the rest of the county when when areas don't have jurisdiction over the rest of the county so I can't support the the motion as

Voice Ahear it at 4:30:12

Stated. Alright, you're gonna get me in trouble folks. That has that motion did not have a second. It died. Okay, listen. So listen. Let's do lunch. What time? How long? I don't I don't I hey. You can't have a hundred contractors

Voice Hhear it at 4:30:38

I don't know, but I need to inform Sam that my mother too called me and said I had to be home before dark.

Voice Ahear it at 4:30:57

Anyway, we're taking a break, 3, 4 o'clock.

Voice Ahear it at 4:33:11

Alright, we're ready. You guys all ready out there? J Okay, so evidently when we finished the last item, I uh did not I said the motion failed, but we did not close the item. So long and the short of it is we have to reopen the item. Well, we didn't really close it, so

Voice W2hear it at 4:33:31

Well the motion did not fail, there was no vote. There was no second,

Voice W2hear it at 4:33:34

there was no second.

Voice Ahear it at 4:33:35

So it failed for lack of second.

Voice W2hear it at 4:33:37

So the motion, that item is still open. Public comment is done. That's where we're at. I don't know what we're doing.

Voice Ghear it at 4:33:46

Okay, the only thing I can think to do is I think I've I'm the only thing I saw here that was controversial that is not included in this is Beatty. And so the Beatty um Amagosa Beatty Amagosa comments. We talked about not supporting those at the last meeting when we got this far before and we had to re-agendize it for today and so I'd like to make a motion to adopt and amend Nye County bill number 2026-01 less Beatty and Amargosa's requested changes.

Voice W2hear it at 4:34:28

I will second that because I want to see a vote.

Voice Ahear it at 4:34:31

So we have a motion on the floor and I second. I'm going to call for the vote.

Voice Chear it at 4:34:37

There are multiple versions in the backup. It is important to indicate which version you're working from. And I, after working with planning, the version that is being recommended by staff obviously sands what you just mentioned is the amendments to the proposed version track changes.

Voice Ahear it at 4:34:55

Amendment to the...

Voice Ghear it at 4:35:00

I don't know what this is.

Voice W2hear it at 4:35:03

How does she include that in her motion?

Voice Ghear it at 4:35:06

Amendment to the track version.

Voice Chear it at 4:35:11

If you look at the footer of the bill in your backup, it will be the amendments to the proposed version, tracked changes version. And that's the one that shows all of the updates throughout this whole So process.

Voice Ghear it at 4:35:23

stated and amended. But what Sam just said, will you amend your second?

Voice Ghear it at 4:35:29

I also need to amend that if applicable, Beatty water and sanitation district, and if so amended, and

Voice Ghear it at 4:35:40

within the PRPD or a property line within the town boundaries of Beatty and... No, I don't want that. I don't want that.

Voice W2hear it at 4:35:50

So amended, I'm so seconded, amended. I'm gonna call for the vote, all those in favour.

Voice Hhear it at 4:35:59

No. Chibor is nay.

Voice W2hear it at 4:36:08

Blazkowicz is nay.

Voice Ghear it at 4:36:09

Thank you guys. I want to make sure that you were given the opportunity to see if there was some other way you'd like to do this. Thank you.

Voice W2hear it at 4:36:17

Let's do consent items real quick, 'cause they're easy.

Voice Ahear it at 7:32:17

Item 10, I did just before I read it, I did get a message from the co-compliance officer. We're going to continue it because they were able to finally get a hold of some family members. There was somebody deceased. Anyway, long story. The tenant on the property is there now, and she's removing her stuff. So we're going to check it tomorrow, possibly pull it later. But item 10 a.m. timed item for possible action, public hearing, discussion, and deliberation. To A, declare 2461 South Mallard Avenue, Pahrump, Nevada a public nuisance consisting of an unsafe, unhealthful condition which poses a public health and safety hazard. B, if declared a public nuisance, establish a reasonable time for Annie L. Turner, who is the property owner, to repair, abate, and remove the public nuisance. A C. If the public nuisance is not abated within the time period designated, direct staff to utilize the abatement procedures to abate the hazard by removing or causing the removal of the hazardous conditions. D. Establish a funding source to pay for the abatement. And E. Apply a special assessment against real property in the amount of the total cost of the abatement. Assessor's parcel number 042-4930.

Voice Bhear it at 7:33:43

zero four location 2461 South Mallard Avenue proper Nevada property owner Annie L Turner and again we're looking to move this to the first

Voice Chear it at 7:33:55

So I have to open public comment, but again, we're just, we're just, we're going to continue it, but I have to by law open public comment. So do we have anybody on the phone that wants to comment on this item?

Voice Ahear it at 7:34:08

Anybody in person?

Voice Ehear it at 7:34:09

Mr. Chairman, may I? Very quickly. I switched seats, sorry. This is in my district. I do have people who want to testify. I am fine with giving them time. They said they communicate they're going to clean it out. Is that what happened?

Voice Ahear it at 7:34:21

Yeah, they're actually there right now.

Voice Ehear it at 7:34:22

Fantastic. That's all everybody needs.

Voice Ahear it at 7:34:24

Totally in the morning and it will be done.

Voice Ehear it at 7:34:26

Okay. Thank you very much. And that's fine. So on the first, I will let the people who want to testify on this know. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Voice Fhear it at 7:34:34

to continue till the first.

Voice Ghear it at 7:34:36

Two more seconds.

Voice Ahear it at 7:34:37

Motion, second, all those in favour.

Voice Chear it at 7:34:38

We vote aye.

Voice Ahear it at 7:34:42

Five zero. All right, now sixteen please.

Voice Ahear it at 1:54:13

Item 9, 10 a.m. timed item for possible action, public hearing, discussion, and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt, or reject Nye County Bill No. 2026-09, Bill proposing to adopt DA-25-5, Development Agreement between Nye County and Mack LLC, Wilson Ranch, and providing for the severability, constitutionality, and effective date thereof. And other matters properly relating thereto, that one they're asking to continue to the 9-15 agenda. And then item 11, 10 a.m. timed item for possible action, public hearing, discussion and deliberation on ZCMP dash 26-4. An application for a Major Master Plan Amendment to change five parcels, 78.99 acres, from Rural Density Residential. To low-density residential LDR, to conform with the proposed zone change located at 1810 South Parsons Road, 1811 South Butler Street, 3310 East Winery Road, 3440 East Winery Road, and 3120 East Winery Road, Pahrump, Nevada, assessor's parcel number 027-451-13. 3-0-2-7-4-5-1-0-6, 0-2-7-4-5-1-0-7, 0-2-7-4-5-1-0-8, 0-2-7-4-5-1-0-9. Dennis Scott Sheldon, property owner. Thomas Helens, PLS. Dreyer Engineering, Inc., agent applicant. And then I'm just going to state item B and item C as written.

Voice Chear it at 1:56:00

All right, thanks for that. D, I have a question for you. I'm going to open public comment, but as only is it limited to the date and time, or do we go through the whole p uh what do you want to do? Continuance, I mean, on nine and eleven. Do we open public comment on the

Voice Ahear it at 1:56:17

the meat of the items or just the ch continuous?

Voice Dhear it at 1:56:19

Actually if you're moving these items to

Voice Dhear it at 1:56:21

another agenda that's being taken off of this agenda and being moved to another agenda. So there is no public comment on Okay.

Voice Dhear it at 1:56:30

Just, just, you, you, you have control over what you do with

Voice Chear it at 1:56:34

yeah. So we're going to open a nine

Voice Chear it at 1:56:36

and 11 public comment only

Voice Dhear it at 1:56:37

You, you don't know?

Voice Dhear it at 1:56:39

No, no, no public comment.

Voice Chear it at 1:56:41

No public comment. And then

Voice Dhear it at 1:56:42

This is administrative measure that you take.

Voice Chear it at 1:56:44

Administrative measure that we're taking.

Voice Ahear it at 1:56:46

Okay. Through the chair,

Voice Chear it at 1:56:47

I forgot to say on item 11 they are wishing that to be continued to the nine.

Voice Chear it at 1:56:55

Okay, so we're moving number nine to the 9-15 meeting, and we're moving number 11 to the 9

Voice Bhear it at 1:57:05

Chair liked to make a motion to continue item number 11 to nine one of 26. And the other item to 9-15 of 26.

Voice Ahear it at 1:57:16

Dr. Bloor second.

Voice Ahear it at 1:57:17

The other item is number nine.

Voice Bhear it at 1:57:18

And thank you, sir.

Voice Chear it at 1:57:19

And number nine. Motion and a second for nine and 11. All those in favor?

Voice Chear it at 1:57:25

That carries five zero. Thank you. All right. Number six, please, real quick.

Voice Ahear it at 4:36:33

Item 14, consent agenda items. There are items that staff recommends for approval. The board reserves the right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda should issues arise and need to be addressed. Discussion of an item from the consent agenda items that needs review before a decision is made. This is 14.1, 14.2, 14.3, and 14.4. Or shoot. Let's open public comment. Do you have any comment on any of these consent items, please? Anybody on the phone, Sam?

Voice Bhear it at 4:37:11

Yes, sure. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Chear it at 4:37:18

Hello, my name is Carrie Albright. I've been fine in the college for the last hour and a half. Please have a few things to say. I live here on the south side. I get up at like 4.30 every morning and I get to watch the sunrise over the mountain. You guys put your data center over there. I don't think I won't be able to

Voice Ahear it at 4:37:44

'am, we can't talk about data center yet. We're all I swear to you we'll almost be there. Okay, go ahead, Tim.

Voice Dhear it at 4:37:55

Hi, Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. 14-1 caught my attention. This is the approval of the elected official collection report. First of all, I don't have an issue with this being approved. I just want to call this out to the public. Pay attention to these. These are, you know, this is financial related. So it's something you should pick up on because you're talking about the clerk's report to the author. The question is which author? Is that the state or is that local? That's another question I have on that. Clerk's report of cost and you go through the different departments. So I just wanted to call that out. That's all. Enjoy. Thanks.

Voice Ahear it at 4:38:39

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone please?

Voice Ahear it at 4:38:42

Closing out public.

Voice Ehear it at 4:38:43

I'm looking for a motion on consent.

Voice Fhear it at 4:38:45

Motion to approve all consent items as written.

Voice Ehear it at 4:38:48

Motion and a second. All those in favor?

Voice Ehear it at 4:38:51

Resolved. That carries five to zero. Thank you. Let's go to eight. Wait, right?

Voice Fhear it at 4:38:58

Oh, all of them.

Voice Ehear it at 4:39:00

Oh, yeah. So hold on. We're going to open eight, fifteen and twenty two. Is that correct? We're going to open all those at once. And then call them individually. So if you want to comment on any one of those three items, feel free to jump up to the thing and we will start you two minutes. After

Voice Ehear it at 4:39:21

I'm sorry, after manager reads them.

Voice Ahear it at 7:34:48

Item 16 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to A, appoint one member to the Round Mountain Town Board to fill a vacancy for an unexpired term ending in January 2029 from the following list of applicants, Kevin Sheets and or B, re-advertise for the appointment.

Voice Bhear it at 7:35:06

Thank you for that public comment on this to have anybody Sam please okay

Voice Chear it at 7:35:09

I have hands raised, but I believe they're for the prior item. I'll check. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Dhear it at 7:35:19

Yes, Bruce Johnson, and I was for the prior item. Thank you.

Voice Ehear it at 7:35:23

Thank you. Anybody else say it, please?

Voice Chear it at 7:35:26

The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Fhear it at 7:35:31

Lisa Stottleman, I was for the item 10.

Voice Ehear it at 7:35:36

Okay. Thank you.

Voice Fhear it at 7:35:37

Can I speak?

Voice Ahear it at 7:35:38

No. It's closed. I'm sorry. Anybody else, Sam?

Voice Ahear it at 7:35:45

Closing public comment.

Voice Ghear it at 7:35:46

Chair, I move to appoint Kevin Sheets to the Round Mountain Town Board to fill the vacancy with an unexpired term ending January 2029.

Voice Ahear it at 7:35:57

Motion, second. All those in favor?

Voice Ahear it at 7:36:02

Did you vote?

Voice Ahear it at 7:36:05

Uh, Boskovich's I_ four with one not here. Okay, seventeen, please.

Voice Ahear it at 7:36:12

Item 17 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to A, approve or reject the reclassification of one administrative technician one position to an administrative technician two position and B, fund from 10101 general fund.

Voice Bhear it at 7:36:29

Thank you for that. Do we have any public comment on this item? I'll get right to you, Sheriff.

Voice Chear it at 7:36:35

There's no comment on the phone.

Voice Bhear it at 7:36:36

Okay, we're going to close public. Go ahead, sir.

Voice Ahear it at 7:36:41

No I don't. It's not on. But I can hear you though.

Voice Dhear it at 7:36:53

The light was green. Okay, Joe,

Voice Dhear it at 7:36:58

we'll leave it.

Voice Bhear it at 7:36:59

Okay, so what we're doing is we're asking you to allow us to reclassify a admin tech one to an admin tech two. That position would be in Tonopah. The purpose of this, number one, since our current custodian of records started her position in 2017, public records requests have increased 1,708%. Almost 709%. Civil service paperwork has increased 1,865%. Currently, we have 73 public records requests pending, which she is working on, 26 body cam requests working.

Voice Dhear it at 7:37:48

And three of these are old murder cases, and one has over 100 links to it. That individual, one individual who does this job, has got to watch every single minute of those body cam videos. And statistics are every 15 minutes of body cam footage.

Voice Bhear it at 7:38:12

Takes four hours to review and redact in order to release it to the individual who's requesting it. She is inundated. She is stressed beyond imagination and she definitely needs help. As a point of comparison, the county has three people who do public records requests. And she does three times as many more. She does more by herself than three people do for the county.

Voice Bhear it at 7:38:53

So the position or the change of position is being funded by a Admin Tech 2 who retired out of detention that we did not replace. And so that money is rolling into this money to offset the increased cost.

Voice Ahear it at 7:39:18

Zina is shaking her head.

Voice Bhear it at 7:39:20

I saw that out of the corner of my eye.

Voice Fhear it at 7:39:23

All of your positions are filled right now.

Voice Bhear it at 7:39:34

Oh, that's right. That's right. That's what it is. It was a part-time position that's always been funded as a full-time position. The part-time position is currently in evidence. Yeah. And go ahead. You and

Voice Chear it at 7:39:52

No, go ahead, finish.

Voice Bhear it at 7:39:54

so we're taking the other half of that part-time position to offset the increase of the salary for the one individual. Being promoted.

Voice Ghear it at 7:40:05

That is true. That is what they're doing. But we had to cut service and supplies 34% and I am coming back with an agenda item to speak.

Voice Hhear it at 7:40:21

to give an update to the board on our cost savings, which we did not achieve all of the cost savings that we were supposed to when we approved the budget. And then we also have requests from other departments for increase in service and supplies. And then also just to put it out there that overtime is not budgeted. And over time needs to go through department head approval before, which was discussed and approved in the May 27th Board of Commissioners meeting. So we have a lot of items in the budget that need to be addressed before we start looking at increasing or giving increases to people.

Voice Bhear it at 7:41:14

We also have an obligation to respond to our public records request to the community. We have an obligation to our personnel who, again, is stressed beyond belief and has got so much work to do that she cannot complete it. We're having to delay for months sometimes some of these requests. And remember, 100 links of footage. 15 minutes of footage taking four hours to review and redact in order for us to release that information.

Voice Ihear it at 7:41:51

Sure, sure. I get all of that and I feel sorry for her, but how does promoting her make the job go less?

Voice Bhear it at 7:42:02

It's not promoting her, it's promoting another individual in Tonopah. Oh, from tech one to tech two to assist her in

Voice Dhear it at 7:42:10

I messed up.

Voice Bhear it at 7:42:11

I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Voice Dhear it at 7:42:13

Mr. Jabbour has been waiting patiently.

Voice Ahear it at 7:42:15

Well, that was not

Voice Bhear it at 7:42:16

Not very patient.

Voice Ehear it at 7:42:19

Why, my face is not red, is it? No, I went to the gym. Commissioner Koenig asked the same... exact question that I was going to ask that if this individual is stressed beyond belief and we're not discounting that they're not working diligently to comply with these record requests how does giving them a raise

Voice Bhear it at 7:42:44

Do you want me to

Voice Bhear it at 7:42:44

answer the question again?

Voice Ehear it at 7:42:45

you already answered it Okay. but but Sheriff we we're asking you to be clear that's why we're

Voice Bhear it at 7:42:52

I thought that I said that part. Maybe I didn't make it clear. I said that that position was in Tonopah. Yeah, I bypassed

Voice Ehear it at 7:43:01

you know, you said it's in Tonopah. We're thinking it's the very same individual, and we're not getting that correlation.

Voice Bhear it at 7:43:09

It is a different individual being promoted to a Tech 2 from a Tech 1 in Tonopah to assist the Tech 2 that

Voice Ehear it at 7:43:17

ensure that you're in compliance to the public records requests just like the public records requests that come through the county. So now let me through the chair go back to the comptroller to say now that we have that clarification. How do we help and assist make this happen?

Voice Hhear it at 7:43:44

I don't want to be snarky.

Voice Ehear it at 7:43:45

I know you're not going to be snarky. Just keep in mind that there are some cultures that do not have no in their vocabulary.

Voice Hhear it at 7:43:54

I have a no in my vocabulary.

Voice Ehear it at 7:43:56

Well, you're not part of that culture.

Voice Ihear it at 7:43:59

It's one reason we hired you.

Voice Hhear it at 7:44:04

So, I think that all the departments need to take a look at their budgets, which is what the Board of Commissioners had requested, and come up with ideas to save money, and I think we should do the same thing in this situation to see if public record request is only with... I don't know all of the circumstances, so I can't really talk to how it can be moved around or if there is something that can be done to alleviate the workload.

Voice Ehear it at 7:44:47

Sure. Let me, thank you. Through the chair, let me ask the sheriff a question now. No, you sheriff. Thank you. Sheriff, do we have anybody on? On light duty, anybody through the county on light duty manager that may be assigned to the sheriff's area to help and assist until we can get this figured out.

Voice Ahear it at 7:45:12

I mean, that's definitely something we could check with HR. I can't recall right off. I know we have people on light duty. But I don't recall who they are right off the

Voice Ahear it at 7:45:22

top of my head.

Voice Ehear it at 7:45:23

would they have to have special clearance, Sheriff, for your...

Voice Bhear it at 7:45:25

It would be outside of their job description.

Voice Khear it at 7:45:29

I think that's what this is about, right, Commissioner Jabara?

Voice Bhear it at 7:45:32

And that's the problem that we have right now also is we can't just give some records requests to... somebody in admin tech one who is in the office in the front office and ask her to do the redaction of the videos and gather all the documents that are necessary to fulfill this request because it's outside of her job description we're going to have to pay that person additional money in order to do this this is not this is not a short-term fix that we're asking to do this is a 1,700% increase since 2017, and that is as a result of body cams. That's a result of body cams. Body cams came out in 2019 to our department, widespread, and now the public is of the opinion that they have... The right to the body cam of every traffic stop that they happen to see when they drive by. And we have to address those in one way or another.

Voice Ehear it at 7:46:42

I understand and I appreciate you saying, Sheriff, that this is not a short-term fix, but it's going to have to be. I'm looking for options and solutions for your short-term fix if we can somehow, some way.

Voice Bhear it at 7:47:00

Commissioner, in all due respect, we had positions taken away by this board. I think that we need to get half a position back.

Voice Hhear it at 7:47:17

Can any of your volunteers afford

Voice Bhear it at 7:47:20

Volunteers are not qualified to do this.

Voice Bhear it at 7:47:22

And it is outside their job description.

Voice Chear it at 7:47:26

Excuse me, Chair. I apologize for interrupting. We need to call back in. We're dropped again. So sorry.

Voice Chear it at 7:47:37

I have to call back in back there too, so I'm not sure what's going on.

Voice Ihear it at 7:47:41

We need to end one call.

Voice Khear it at 7:47:45

Yeah, you've out you've outdone your ability to use that system.

Voice Dhear it at 7:47:48

I'm not sure. It's friggin

Voice Bhear it at 7:47:51

No, I don't mean to be disrespectful to you.

Voice Ehear it at 7:47:55

not being disrespectful to me. You may be disrespectful to the other commissioners, but you've never been disrespectful to me.

Voice Bhear it at 7:48:02

Oh, well, that's not true. You just didn't hear it.

Voice Ehear it at 7:48:07

You know, Corey was saying something about that the other day and I didn't believe him.

Voice Mhear it at 7:48:11

Please enter your conference room number followed by the pound or hash sign.

Voice Nhear it at 7:48:22

Conference room number accepted. If you are the organizer, press the star key now. Otherwise, please hold. Please enter your PIN followed by the... For a menu of available commands, press star 1. There are four participants in the conference. All participants are muted and may not unmute themselves. Hand raising is on.

Voice Dhear it at 7:48:50

So we're back on?

Voice Ahear it at 7:48:50

I we're waiting for Sam but my question for Xena is going to be how much of how many dollars is this going to cost?

Voice Dhear it at 7:48:57

Seventy four forty five and eleven cents.

Voice Ahear it at 7:49:01

I think we could probably

Voice Dhear it at 7:49:02

So oh can I

Voice Khear it at 7:49:06

Are we on the record, Chair?

Voice Dhear it at 7:49:13

So, first question to Zena, Sheriff mentioned that there was a part-time position that they are not refilling. Was that budgeted?

Voice Hhear it at 7:49:25

So the way that position budgeting works in our system, it does not know how to create a part-time position. So in the budget process, it... It uses a full-time position, but it gave it partial benefits, meaning their time off.

Voice Dhear it at 7:49:48

So is there a full-time position that was being utilized as a part-time budget in this year's budget?

Voice Hhear it at 7:49:59

This year's budget has that part-time position, but it looks like it has... A full-time salary but no benefits or part-time benefits. That's what it looks like.

Voice Dhear it at 7:50:10

So it's already funded is what I'm trying to get out of you.

Voice Hhear it at 7:50:15

I don't know what the benefits are.

Voice Dhear it at 7:50:16

Well, this wouldn't

Voice Dhear it at 7:50:18

have a scenario in in

Voice Dhear it at 7:50:19

the cost of the county with benefits is $7,445. Now my question to you, Sheriff.

Voice Ahear it at 7:50:30

In any of this calculation I see from HR, it doesn't say anything about a part-time position calculated into what the actual budget difference is going to be. So, well,

Voice Bhear it at 7:50:45

That was given originally.

Voice Ahear it at 7:50:49

it's not in your position justification form.

Voice Bhear it at 7:50:52

So it could

Voice Dhear it at 7:50:54

It could have less of an impact. Is that what you see?

Voice Ahear it at 7:51:02

If that would have been figured in, it would probably be a net savings.

Voice Bhear it at 7:51:06

It would be, and that was our intention, and that was the way I set it in or discussed it at least was that the part-time position was going to offset the increase of pay for Tammy Davis being promoted.

Voice Khear it at 7:51:29

So if you calculate overtime on this, you know, you take your $32 per hour and add another half, it's 154 hours of overtime. I can imagine that you're probably seeing that currently from your tech that's doing this work. Do you know how much overtime this tech that's doing

Voice Bhear it at 7:51:49

not seeing a lot of overtime from

Voice Bhear it at 7:51:55

don't allow it for

Voice Khear it at 7:51:56

has been well

Voice Bhear it at 7:51:56

this task. And I will tell you, she's come to me at least four times in the last year and said I'm going to voluntarily step down if I can't get some help.

Voice Khear it at 7:52:07

let's do this I'd

Voice Ahear it at 7:52:09

Okay, I'm ready.

Voice Khear it at 7:52:12

like to make a motion to approve the reclassification and fun from 10101 general fund

Voice Dhear it at 7:52:19

Motion and a second, all those in favour?

Voice Dhear it at 7:52:23

Keep right up.

Voice Bhear it at 7:52:23

Thank you very much.

Voice Dhear it at 7:52:25

Uh eighteen, please. I think this is you too, sir. Maybe not. Yeah.

Voice Ihear it at 7:52:32

Jail food that usually deserve.

Voice Dhear it at 7:52:36

I think of you, Joe.

Voice Ahear it at 7:52:40

Item 18, for possible action. Discussion and deliberation to A, discuss the proposals received for RFP number 2026-02, jail food services, B, award contract to Get Fresh Sales, LLC at $7.85 per meal, and 0% commissary revenue. Summit Correctional Services at $2.05 per meal and 42.5 cent commissary revenue. Summit Correctionals, or sorry, Trinity Services Group at $1.91 per meal and 40% commissary revenue. Trinity Service Group at $1.84. per meal and 38% commissary revenue or victus food at 166 per meal and 38% commissary revenue. See approve amended approve the contract with the selected bidder defund from fund contract from 102 36 Nye County jail fund or e reject proposals and provide direction to staff on how to proceed with the project

Voice Bhear it at 7:53:53

Thank you for that.

Voice Chear it at 7:53:55

one question before we go any further. Summit and Trinity are listed in here twice and you missed the second one on both of them.

Voice Ahear it at 7:54:04

What? Oh, I got the second one on Trinity, but you are right. I did miss the summit services.

Voice Chear it at 7:54:10

Yeah, you said 208 something.

Voice Ahear it at 7:54:12

per meal and 42.5 percent commissary revenue. This is a very confusing agenda item.

Voice Ahear it at 7:54:20

Okay. Stephanie will explain why it's I'm written that

Voice Dhear it at 7:54:23

for moral support.

Voice Ahear it at 7:54:24

That's fine. Let's do public comment first. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Keeping in mind it's 7.45.

Voice Ahear it at 7:54:33

Go ahead, Tim.

Voice Chear it at 7:54:34

I have Tim Bohannon, BOHA. And then, Owen, the thing I care about most on this, other than the finance side, is making sure that, hey, from a reputation standpoint and experience standpoint, which should we feel best of the mix on the proposal?

Voice Fhear it at 7:54:52

And then compare that with what's going on with the finance side. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 7:54:58

Sam, anybody else, please?

Voice Bhear it at 7:55:00

Closing public. Commissioners, let's hear it. What do you want to do?

Voice Ghear it at 7:55:04

I think that you've got it all lined out here. I'd like to see that we move forward with this by... Proposing to award this contract to Trinity Services Group at $1.84 per meal, 38% commissary revenue, to approve to fund the contract 10236 jail fund.

Voice Fhear it at 7:55:28

Motion and a second, all those in favor.

Voice Jhear it at 7:55:34

the sheriff was not part of the actual RSVP process, so he would like to talk about his

Voice Ihear it at 7:55:41

I thought when it said staff that we had talked to him.

Voice Jhear it at 7:55:45

That was the evaluation committee.

Voice Ihear it at 7:55:46

Oh, pardon me, Sheriff. I withdraw my motion and wait for the Sheriff.

Voice Jhear it at 7:55:52

So I'm here to support the Sheriff's Office and just provide a brief overview of what happened with the procurement process. And I'm here to answer any questions you might have regarding that. We did, Finance did prepare the backup and we also included the procurement summary for more details. So the sheriff's office provided the technical specifications for the contractor to provide meal services and commissary management. The county pays a per meal price for the meal service and then we receive a percentage of the commissary sales. as incoming revenue. We did conduct a site visit which allowed and that was coordinated with the sheriff's office and it allowed vendors to prepare a more accurate proposal and after reviewing the responses from the first solicitation we determined that we could get better meal pricing by going back out again for a second proposal with only one hot meal and two cold meals per day. This actually is a little bit more closely aligned to what the sheriff's office Sheriff's Office is providing to their inmates. The evaluation ranking of the proposals was performed independently by the same four Nye County employees from both the Sheriff's Office and Finance Department on both solicitations and those ranking criteria are included in the RFP as well as in your backup. There's detailed results and on page five and then on the next page there is a figure that shows

Voice Khear it at 7:57:18

shows all of the individual scores. So it was the recommendation after reviewing the responses from the evaluation committee that we do go with Trinity. I know he's got some comments as well.

Voice Lhear it at 7:57:29

Really quickly, are we just telling us what we're voting on? If you want this, right, and we're going to vote on it, why are we talking about it? I mean, what's the advantage?

Voice Lhear it at 7:57:38

Just so people back pass or something? What are we doing this for?

Voice Bhear it at 7:57:41

because we do not want to choose Choose Trinity?

Voice Lhear it at 7:57:45

Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Okay. I apologize.

Voice Bhear it at 7:57:50

So currently and for several years, our provider has been Summit. Summit has been very, very responsive to us, very helpful with us. They've just been in place for several years, and they provide us the service that we need, they provide us the materials that we need, they provide the ordering, and although the scoring criteria Did not come in with Summit being on top or with Summit being on the bottom being the price per meal or the best deal. I am of the opinion, and I can tell you that our detention administration... is of the opinion that it would be better if we stay with Summit. There would be no transition, there would be no training, there would be no...

Voice Dhear it at 7:58:54

Okay, can I make a motion?

Voice Dhear it at 7:58:55

I'd like to make a motion.

Voice Hhear it at 7:58:57

Excuse me, Commissioner.

Voice Dhear it at 7:58:59

Sorry, I'm just trying to get this

Voice Hhear it at 7:59:00

no, no, no. I need to withdraw my second,

Voice Ehear it at 7:59:06

already withdrawn my

Voice Bhear it at 7:59:07

you make a motion, I have concerns with this.

Voice Bhear it at 7:59:10

You do have a procurement process, and you had a committee that evaluated these things. That's the whole purpose of these things, and to reject that just because you've worked with this company in the past is not appropriate. And it does not require that we choose one over the other. The procurement process allows for a choice of any of the responsive bids. I saw that.

Voice Ihear it at 7:59:39

In RFP, where you identify the requirements and you weigh them, that's how the procurement needs to be evaluated and awarded. That is NRS requirements.

Voice Bhear it at 7:59:54

That is correct.

Voice Ahear it at 7:59:56

This is just not an easy day. Nothing is easy

Voice Lhear it at 7:59:59

So we're just voting, I'm just, you want Summit and they're saying we can't do Summit. Is that what's going on?

Voice Bhear it at 8:00:05

Summit comes in at 205 per meal with a 42.5% return on the commissary revenue.

Voice Lhear it at 8:00:13

Okay, what's the other guy's?

Voice Bhear it at 8:00:14

Trinity comes in at 184 per meal with a 38%. Or $191 per meal with a 40%

Voice Lhear it at 8:00:22

So we're voting but we really don't have it. Why isn't this just in consent then if we can't really talk? Why don't we just put this in consent? Who makes these decisions not to put stuff in consent? If we can't, if we have to go with the lowest bidder, why are we opening this up for a big discussion?

Voice Jhear it at 8:00:36

So we're not going with the lowest bidder. We're going with the most responsive.

Voice Lhear it at 8:00:40

So why do we have a big discussion? Why don't we just put it on the consent calendar?

Voice Jhear it at 8:00:45

up to interpretation.

Voice Lhear it at 8:00:45

to talk about it for 20 minutes?

Voice Jhear it at 8:00:47

We have had other types of engineering contracts or airport contracts where the responses were evaluated by a committee and that was not necessarily the item that was chosen.

Voice Mhear it at 8:00:56

Those professional contracts have different provisions.

Voice Lhear it at 8:01:00

Do we have the option to go with Summit or no?

Voice Mhear it at 8:01:03

I don't believe you do.

Voice Lhear it at 8:01:04

Okay. In the future, can we put this in the consent calendar so we can save everybody all the time? I'm not trying to be mean, I just...

Voice Fhear it at 8:01:10

It's just been a long day, a long couple of weeks.

Voice Hhear it at 8:01:12

Sheriff, when is uh through the Chair, when is summit's uh contract uh expired?

Voice Bhear it at 8:01:17

It exp it expired a couple of months ago and we're in an extension.

Voice Dhear it at 8:01:24

No, we've been

Voice Bhear it at 8:01:24

Two years ago.

Voice Dhear it at 8:01:26

out of a contract for a while.

Voice Hhear it at 8:01:29

So we've been go with them month to month?

Voice Ahear it at 8:01:42

Somebody do it? I don't care.

Voice Bhear it at 8:01:44

Yeah, they have been continuing their service, no questions asked, waiting for a contract to come up.

Voice Ahear it at 8:01:51

Okay, will someone make a motion?

Voice Ghear it at 8:01:56

You know what? I cannot win today. I'm going to do this again frustrated and beyond belief at 8 o'clock at night. I would like to make a motion that we... Award this contract to Trinity Services Group at $1.84 per meal and 38.7% commissary revenue. Approve it. Fund the contract from 10236.

Voice Bhear it at 8:02:19

Motion second. All those in favor.

Voice Hhear it at 8:02:31

Uh, Mr. D.A. Excuse me, sir. We're in the middle of a vote. If the majority votes nay, does it go back to the drawing board for evaluation?

Voice Mhear it at 8:02:50

I've never seen that happen before.

Voice Hhear it at 8:02:52

So if it goes back for evaluation, they continue their month-to-month contract with... with Summit.

Voice Ohear it at 8:03:02

At a higher rate commissioner much more than they've proposed here

Voice Ahear it at 8:03:11

It was already voted

Voice Jhear it at 8:03:11

I would like to make a clarification on that. Currently we are getting a better rate on the month to month right now at $1.73 per meal.

Voice Hhear it at 8:03:21

Thank you manager and thank you manager.

Voice Ohear it at 8:03:24

Then why are we changing?

Voice Bhear it at 8:03:27

Okay. DuBois nay.

Voice Mhear it at 8:03:31

I'll make this easy, Boskovich nay.

Voice Ghear it at 8:03:36

I already did a yay because I did the motion.

Voice Chear it at 8:03:40

I'll go with an A.

Voice Mhear it at 8:03:42

If you're cheaper now on the month to

Voice Ghear it at 8:03:45

we don't have a contract,

Voice Ghear it at 8:03:46

we just keep going.

Voice Jhear it at 8:03:47

We should enter into a contract. We are required to go out for a formal procurement.

Voice Chear it at 8:03:53

let's play it month to

Voice Ghear it at 8:03:54

need to month. make another motion and go, I don't know, you're going to go against your DA if you do.

Voice Mhear it at 8:03:59

I'm not going against the DA. It's passed, right? 4-1.

Voice Mhear it at 8:04:07

not uh So it's your month to month.

Voice Lhear it at 8:04:10

Month to month. Moving right along.

Voice Lhear it at 8:04:12

can just a check.

Voice Khear it at 8:04:13

minute. What about what's the direction to staff?

Voice Ghear it at 8:04:15

What is the direction?

Voice Lhear it at 8:04:16

No direction to staff. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Voice Ghear it at 8:04:18

I thought we gave direction to staff to reevaluate. Nope? Okay.

Voice Mhear it at 8:04:23

Okay, nineteen please. Thank you Sheriff, or sorry, I don't know.

Voice Ghear it at 8:04:29

I don't either.

Voice Mhear it at 8:04:30

I don't either.

Voice Ahear it at 8:04:31

19 for possible action discussion and deliberation regarding bill draft requests my county can submit for the 2027 legislative session

Voice Bhear it at 8:04:42

Thank you for that. Any public comment on this? Go ahead, Tim.

Voice Chear it at 8:04:47

It's Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. This is 19 on the BDRs. The thing that caught my interest is making sure...

Voice Dhear it at 8:04:57

You know, what we can leverage here, because we do have, there's several different options for the size of county, size of town, as far as number of BDRs that could be requested. So keep a close eye on that. I know this is more administrative than anything else, but I did want to call that out. Thank you.

Voice Ehear it at 8:05:18

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Fhear it at 8:05:21

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ahear it at 8:05:30

Okay, anybody else please Sam

Voice Fhear it at 8:05:32

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ghear it at 8:05:37

Yes, Amy Nelson, N-E-L-S-O-N. On a BDR, I hope I didn't look at the backup.

Voice Dhear it at 8:05:45

Well, I hope that if you're looking for one to write up, that you ban Sharia law in my county before it's too late. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 8:05:56

Thanks, Sam. Anybody else, please?

Voice Fhear it at 8:05:58

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Hhear it at 8:06:04

Hi, Mr. Chair and Board of Commissioners. This is Joni Eastley in Tonopah. I'm a member of the Tonopah Town Board. As you know, there is a tremendous amount of mining exploration and a couple of projects on the drawing board right now, and the problem is that all of this is taking place in Esmeralda County. None of it's taking place within the boundaries of Nye County or the town of Tonopah.

Voice Ghear it at 8:06:31

So, therefore, all of the financial benefits go to Esmeralda County, while Tonopah is hit with the socioeconomic impacts of trying to figure out where these people are going to live and the added burden on all of our services. And I was wondering if it would be possible to sponsor a BDR, and I think this would fit corrupt too.

Voice Hhear it at 8:06:57

where if the development is in one part of the county that is immediately adjacent to a community that's going to feel the socioeconomic impacts, that we be included in any development agreements that the mining companies or solar companies or any company for that matter signs with Esmeralda County. If that makes sense.

Voice Ihear it at 8:07:25

Can we do that with Clark County, too?

Voice Hhear it at 8:07:28

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

Voice Hhear it at 8:07:30

I think that, I think Pahrump would absolutely fit that model.

Voice Ihear it at 8:07:37

It's an idea. It's a good floater.

Voice Jhear it at 8:07:40

Thank you, Joni.

Voice Bhear it at 8:07:41

Thank you. Thank you.

Voice Hhear it at 8:07:43

Thanks. I appreciate the opportunity.

Voice Ahear it at 8:07:49

Any other public comments, Sam?

Voice Ihear it at 8:07:51

So I would like to make a motion that we develop a BDR that would address county lines and impacts that are across, you know, like we're looking at when it comes to projects over each one of these county lines and what that someone's going to have to develop that language.

Voice Ihear it at 8:08:09

Yep, yep. It's a great idea, Joni. So we could have a seat at the table when they do solar on Clark County's side

Voice Ehear it at 8:08:17

Yeah, is that a motion?

Voice Ihear it at 8:08:17

and they're developing. That's a motion.

Voice Ehear it at 8:08:20

That's a motion and a second. All those in favor?

Voice Ehear it at 8:08:23

Members aye. Boskerts aye. It carries five zero. Thank you. Twenty one, please.

Voice Ahear it at 8:08:29

Item twenty one or twenty?

Voice Ehear it at 8:08:33

Twenty, sorry, shit.

Voice Ihear it at 8:08:34

It's all right.

Voice Ahear it at 8:08:36

Item 20 for possible action discussion and deliberation to adopt, amend, adopt or reject Nye County Resolution 2026-15, a resolution to dissolve the Nye County Jail Fund 10236 Special Revenue Fund.

Voice Bhear it at 8:08:51

Thank you for that. Do we have any public comment on the phone, please, Sam?

Voice Bhear it at 8:08:58

Come on up and prompt.

Voice Dhear it at 8:09:00

Come on up and prompt.

Voice Ehear it at 8:09:04

Julia Musall, M-U-S-A-L-L. This is all new to me, but it says a resolution to dissolve the Nye County Jail Fund, Special Revenue Fund. Okay, can someone explain to me what this means?

Voice Ahear it at 8:09:23

All right now.

Voice Fhear it at 8:09:24

Not right now. Can I do it like at the end, like general election or comment?

Voice Ahear it at 8:09:30

Well, you can reach out to your comptroller.

Voice Fhear it at 8:09:35

Okay, well, okay.

Voice Ahear it at 8:09:39

Thank you. Go ahead, Tim.

Voice Ghear it at 8:09:42

Hi, Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N.

Voice Hhear it at 8:09:46

A couple things here. There was a purpose for the fund in 2019 when it was originated. That purpose is no longer there. So what this is doing, this is allowing a shift to place it elsewhere that would benefit the county. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 8:10:02

Thank you, Sam. Anybody, please.

Voice Dhear it at 8:10:07

Chair, I'd like to make a motion to adopt Nye County Resolution 2026-15.

Voice Ihear it at 8:10:11

If I could just address very quickly, I don't know if I would, if the Sheriff doesn't care, then I guess I'll support it. I want to be supportive of management. My concern is that you have a revenue fund for a reason, and if you dissolve it, the money will come rushing back to the general fund, and then I don't know that we're going to have money for the jail. That's my concern. I'm just concerned if anybody has any commentary on that, that would be helpful. I think he can pass this without my vote. I'm just a little confused about that. I understand it's because of the ICE contract, but the ICE contract is because the federal government, like me, doesn't trust the government, and that's why they make people do that. I'm not saying anyone's trying to do something mean or weird. I'm not attacking anyone. I'm just concerned that, as it is now, if we save $9 million in the jail fund and the jail needs $9 million, then it's easy to do that. But if now we're playing this game, we're shutting off things. and they're coming in upset and everybody's fighting that's my concern if someone can address that great if not and you have the votes I guess it doesn't matter Thank You mr. chairman

Voice Hhear it at 8:11:07

is how much is in that fund?

Voice Fhear it at 8:11:11

So last year we funded the jail by seven and a half million dollars. There is no revenue. So the reason why the fund was set up is because we were getting significant revenue from the ICE contract, and because we were getting revenue from the ICE contract, we were able to create a special revenue fund for the jail to receive the revenue and incur the cost associated with the jail fund. But since we no longer have that ICE contract, the jail fund and activity needs needs to revert back to the general fund?

Voice Ihear it at 8:11:50

Why does it have to?

Voice Fhear it at 8:11:52

Because of NRS and because of

Voice Ihear it at 8:11:55

They say we have to do this.

Voice Jhear it at 8:11:56

If we dissolve it.

Voice Ihear it at 8:11:59

Oh, if we dissolve it. You understand my point. I like having order, and I'm just worried that this time next year we're going to have a big, everyone's surprised, because everyone's always surprised that there's not enough money to fund the JL, and he's going to be up here mad, and the other guy's going to be up here mad, and that's what I'm trying to avoid. That's the only thing I'm concerned about, and there's people in the jail who are very, very concerned. Your point, and it's a good one, is that we fund the jail fund. So I see what you're saying. I'm not saying you're wrong, but this really is an argument over semantics. It's not over. for money and i don't think at the end of the day is there a reason other than we just don't like looking at it and again if there is i will be supportive i'm fine and just one vote but is there is this part of something else that's going on or is this just

Voice Fhear it at 8:12:38

No, it so if is you

Voice Ihear it at 8:12:40

possible work because you have the fund is that what it is

Voice Fhear it at 8:12:42

It's going to be more work for my department.

Voice Ihear it at 8:12:44

okay okay fine then

Voice Fhear it at 8:12:44

We have to move that activity from where it is now to

Voice Fhear it at 8:12:48

the general fund

Voice Ihear it at 8:12:49

having the fund trying i try honestly trying to help so if having the Something the fund is more work for you, is that what you're saying?

Voice Fhear it at 8:12:54

No, no, no. By moving it over to the, it's going to be work for my department to do that move from the special revenue fund to the general fund, but it is required because of the NRS and in the second section under NRS 354.570 special revenue fund defined, special means a fund used to account for specific. Ethics revenues

Voice Fhear it at 8:13:19

other than sources for major capital projects which are restricted restricted by law to expenditures for specified purposes and then NRS 365.612 is required that the local government shall establish by resolution one or more funds therefore the resolution

Voice Khear it at 8:13:42

In that matter is no longer carries on the purpose for which it is established. So the resolution that we passed in 2019 was because we were receiving

Voice Ihear it at 8:13:55

So it's your legal opinion, because that's what this is, that we somehow

Voice Khear it at 8:13:57

not a legal opinion.

Voice Ihear it at 8:13:58

have to dissolve this fund?

Voice Khear it at 8:14:00

It's not a legal opinion.

Voice Ihear it at 8:14:01

I know. I understand. You can tell a non-attorney because they cite codes. Attorneys don't cite codes. They just talk about the law. And that's fine. I'm just concerned that you're asserting that we need to dissolve this, and I still don't see in the law where you're saying we need to dissolve it.

Voice Khear it at 8:14:13

It needs to, the activity needs to revert back to the general fund.

Voice Ihear it at 8:14:21

Where did you see that?

Voice Khear it at 8:14:23

It is no longer special revenue,

Voice Ihear it at 8:14:26

this is going nowhere. That's fine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Appreciate it.

Voice Ahear it at 8:14:29

We have a motion and do we have a second?

Voice Ahear it at 8:14:37

Put it to vote.

Voice Nhear it at 8:14:44

I understand it. I wanted Commissioner Bain to be comfortable with it.

Voice Ahear it at 8:14:49

Oh four hours ago I would have too.

Voice Ahear it at 8:15:03

Yes? Or one. Okay, thank you. Moving on.

Voice Ahear it at 8:15:12

Item 21 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to approve A, the addition of a second communication system supervisor position for a period of up to one year for the purpose of new employee cross-training and getting them up to speed as much as possible before he or she assumes the permanent position of filling the vacancy to be created as of March 30, 2027. due to Tim White's retirement and B, fund from 10213 emergency systems.

Voice Bhear it at 8:15:45

Thank you for that. I'm going to start with public comment, Brad. Do we have any public comment on the phone, please, Sam? Come on up, Tim.

Voice Chear it at 8:15:52

Hi, it's Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. One observation as I go through this, and this is from my understanding of what's going on with pensions and things of that nature is we do cover the benefits we do cover the salary but we don't cover the retirement accrual if you will in what we propose here so that's something that caught my attention of saying hey should we so just throwing that out there may not be a requirement to do But from a fully funding what the position is on making the assumption that the position or the individual will be here for a while. We maybe should consider that. Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 8:16:41

Go ahead and print, please.

Voice Dhear it at 8:16:46

Angelina Jackson, WSLN. I know it's the name. Angelina Jackson, J-A-C-K-S-O-N.

Voice Ehear it at 8:16:53

I think I might as well spend the rest of the day here with you guys. So being new to this, I'm just curious if this is for one year, what would it cost for that position? And if it's for cross-training, why can't the person come in early, you know, not early like in a day, but

Voice Dhear it at 8:17:17

The outgoing person, why can't they cross-train them as they're while they're still here? Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 8:17:24

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Bhear it at 8:17:30

Close public comment. Go ahead, Brad. As expeditiously as possible.

Voice Ghear it at 8:17:35

Good afternoon commissioners, Brad Adams, ADAMS with a record, IT Director and over communications for Public Safety first responders. The purpose of this position is the communications system supervisor is a one off position. It is a global position. Last time this came up, it came up both on the Nye County side and on the Town of Pahrump side for funding. At that time, there was some loose discussion about whether or not this position was, I don't think there was a clear understanding of what this position was. We have well over... approaching 200 public safety first responders and every one of those first responders work on the public safety communications radio network and they also work on a 911 teleconference telecom system that is funded under special revenue so this proposal is to go ahead and bring in a

Voice Bhear it at 8:18:31

The post, which has already been posted, and pre-hire a position so we can do cross-training. We have communication sites that are developed that run on utilities, solar, various types of communication sites, microwave, high-level, low-level muxing across 18,000 square miles. So this one position is not only handling infrastructure, 911 telecom, it is also handling 911 logging. Support of radio and system consoles. The radios, the code plugs and everything else along the whole backbone. So it is a comprehensive position that is global so without the position lawsuits fly. This

Voice Bhear it at 8:19:15

is not something

Voice Bhear it at 8:19:16

that can take that would take weeks to cross train.

Voice Bhear it at 8:19:19

With a highly qualified and experienced individual we still have

Voice Ghear it at 8:19:25

A year at least in order just to get them to the sites and understand the solar rays and everything else that is happening.

Voice Jhear it at 8:19:34

Chair, I am so proud of you for finding a funding source that's not general fund. So I can support this. Let's go.

Voice Khear it at 8:19:41

question for Director Adams. So do you have somebody in mind or you say it's posted and you're waiting for this applicant?

Voice Ghear it at 8:19:51

It is posted.

Voice Bhear it at 8:19:53

The city of North Las Vegas has had the same type of posting open for three years, I believe they said, for their police department. This is not an easy position to fill. It is highly specialized, and not only is it highly specialized, but we require even more of that individual because we also have a maintained solar site, backup generators and inverter systems on those remote sites that metropolitan areas don't have to maintain. So it is not going to be easy to hire. I do have applicants because it was posted early. However, this is going to be a long process to even

Voice Khear it at 8:20:29

the time is clicking away because six months from now he's going to retire, whether we fill it or not. Yeah, three years, North Las Vegas.

Voice Ahear it at 8:20:45

There's been an opening. Correct. Controller, are you comfortable with the funding sources?

Voice Ahear it at 8:20:58

Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

Voice Hhear it at 8:21:00

Real quick, Mr. Chairman, we have this in this fund, right? The 10-whatever. This is a separate fund, so there's money in that, right? Okay, I'm good with this. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 8:21:08

This is a special revenue fund.

Voice Ghear it at 8:21:11

Could we get a motion?

Voice Jhear it at 8:21:12

I would mush motion, if you'll let me.

Voice Jhear it at 8:21:15

I'd like to motion to add the second communications system supervisor and fund from one oh two one three.

Voice Khear it at 8:21:21

Of course seconds.

Voice Ahear it at 8:21:22

Motion and two seconds. All those in favor?

Voice Ahear it at 8:21:25

Yeas aye. Minus zero, thank you. Twenty two please. I'm sorry, don't do that one again.

Voice Bhear it at 8:21:30

Do we commission this?

Voice Lhear it at 8:21:36

What did he say?

Voice Ahear it at 4:39:24

Item 8, 10 a.m. timed item for possible action. Continued public hearing, discussion, and deliberation regarding a request to adopt, amend and adopt or reject Nye County Bill No. 2026-11, a bill amending Nye County Code Title 17, Title Comprehensive Land Use Planning and Zoning by creating Chapter 13, Title Data Centers to provide for the prohibition. Effective date hereof, and other matters properly relating thereto. What was the other item?

Voice Ahear it at 4:40:00

Item fifteen for possible action, discussion and deliberation concerning requests The County Clerk to conduct a special election for the purpose of submitting to the voters a ballot question regarding data centers in Nevada Hydraulic Basin 162, pursuant to Nevada Revised Statutes Chapter 293, and B, discuss the financial impact to conduct a special election and possible funding source. Item 22, for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding a request to set a date, time and location for public hearing on Nye County Bill Number 2026-14, a bill proposing to amend Chapter 17.10 of the Nye County Code to establish land use regulations, special use permit requirements and development standards for data centers and related infrastructure by amending Section 17.10.010 Definitions, Section 17.10.020 Purpose and Intent, Section 17.10.050 Requirement to obtain special use permit. And by adding a new section 1710.055, Data Center Special Use Permit Requirements and providing for the severability, constitutionality, and effective date thereof and other matters properly relating thereto. And I just wanted the board to remind on item 22 it's about date and time only. Gotcha. Okay, let's open public uh two minutes on any one of those three items you want to speak on. Come on up, sir, or all of them.

Voice Chear it at 4:41:57

Ron Richardson, R-I-C-H-A-R-D-S-O-N, uh District five. Um as I mentioned this morning, um indirectly, um Commissioner Bain has Garnered 3,845 signatures to band data centers. That is a representative sample of the entire city, 50,000 people, 99.9% confidence and 2% margin of error. I'd say given that, it isn't necessary to have a special election. It isn't necessary to do all the rules and regulations around data centers. I think you have enough information from everybody here, those who signed the petition as well as those present this meeting and last to vote to ban data centers in Rump and Basin 162. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 4:42:58

Thank you, sir. Next, Tim Perron, please come on down.

Voice Chear it at 4:43:05

My name is William Gruble, G-R-U-B-E-L, and I'm here to speak in favor of the data center. You're going to hear a lot of stuff today. You've heard it all before. It's the same people with the same complaints.

Voice Ahear it at 4:43:21

And the same false numbers. He just gave you 3,095%. Those were people that signed a petition against the data center. It does not represent the population of Pahrump at large.

Voice Dhear it at 4:43:36

Those numbers don't mean anything. There is a large group of people that are anti, but they do not represent all of Pahrump. When they stand up here and say nobody wants it, I'm here to tell you that's not true. There are a lot of people that are scared away from this meeting. I, like you, have gotten nothing but.

Voice Chear it at 4:43:58

some pretty nasty remarks, emails, and I just don't have any more to say about that than if you come out as pro, you are immediately attacked. So, to the issue, all three of these things, these agenda items are connected. I don't think there's anything in the objections that isn't already overcome by law and rules and regulations. I think they discount the benefits of it, but I think Commissioner Boskovich said it eloquently. This data center is going in one way or the other. If we push it out of Pahrump, we don't avoid any of the negatives.

Voice Bhear it at 4:44:47

We delete all of the positives, whether you believe it comes on in a day or a year or three years. If it goes across the county line, we got nothing. Finally, on the idea of moving it to a later date, we elected you guys to make that decision. This has gone on long enough.

Voice Ehear it at 4:45:09

Thank you, sir.

Voice Ahear it at 4:45:11

Come on down in front, please.

Voice Fhear it at 4:45:24

Hello, my name is Ruth Matthew, M-A-T-T-H-E-W. On August 6, double-end construction did a presentation to the water district and they mentioned that the campus will use 192 acre feet of water a year. You cannot calculate a data center's water without its electrical capacity because water use is figured from power. Mance has never stated capacity. So that figure cannot be verified by this board, by the state engineer, or anyone by this room. It does not account for the flushed water that their own representative says gets trucked to a hazardous waste facility near Beatty. The misting that air-cooled system needs when it's 110 degrees plus. Water held out in the valley returns nothing. A home on a well and septic returns more than half of that water to the basin. This is water mining, data centers mine water. Look up Owens Valley. It's a lesson for this town of water mining. The U.S. Geological Survey is blunt about where mining ends and the aquifer compactation is caused by water mining, a permanent reduction of the total storage capacity of our basin. Our water table has already dropped 25 feet and the ground is already cracking foundations and shearing. During well castings, casings, this valley is full of seniors. When the power goes out at 112 degrees, this is not a convenience. This is a medical emergency. You are being asked to hang around an enormous, you're being asked to hang an enormous around the clock load on a co-op that owns no generation, which makes me to your duties and the money. You already know how this town would vote. A special election could cost more than $150,000 to a county with a huge deficit. This seems like a useless spend. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 4:47:08

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 4:47:12

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Hhear it at 4:47:19

Hey, good afternoon, commissioners. Gregory McMahon, M-C-M-A-H-O-N, District 5 property owner. We are definitely freedom-loving people here in Pahrump. One of the reasons we moved here was for the personal freedoms, you know, the master plan communities of mountain falls, caught in the woods where we reside, Artesia, Merton Ranch, Person Ranch, and the many homes that are near and surrounding these communities definitely do not want to be tortured by the high-pitched hum. the low vibrations of a mass technology center it's just the wrong growth for param there's other ways to grow tax base you know our home is located less than one mile from six of the 20 proposed 75 foot tall buildings that emit these incredibly irritating sounds 24-7. The other 14 of the 20 buildings are less than two miles from my home. I've seen countless videos online about people that say they should be within 10 miles of neighborhoods, let alone one to two miles. The decibel levels that are going to be constant. I believe have been understated by the developers and their presentation and they had a chart that showed, you know, 55, 65 decibels and then somehow they defy the law of physics and they stop on one side of Hafen Ranch Road, which we know is just not possible. That all comes across right into our front yards. We understand balancing the Nye County budget is difficult for current leadership. But attempting to balance the budget at the risk and health and safety and the future of what to become our decimated

Voice Ahear it at 4:49:22

Thank you, sir. Come on up, sir.

Voice Chear it at 4:49:27

Good afternoon, John Aberle, A-B-E-R-L-E. I think we can all agree that Pahrump is a special place. People came here from open space, the quiet, the desert landscape, and the freedom to live without being surrounded by heavy industry. But above all else, we have something that every person, every business, and every generation depends upon, water. And our water supply is not unlimited. That should be the starting point for every major development decision made by this board. The board should be extremely cautious about allowing industrial operations such as a massive solar field, medical waste facilities, large data centers or other projects that could place additional demands on our already limited water or create the potential for contamination. Once our groundwater is contaminated, we can't simply replace it. And we can't move Pahrump somewhere else. Our desert environment makes water especially precious. Every gallon we use today is part of the resources we're responsible for protecting tomorrow. This isn't about being against progress. It's about asking what kind of progress makes sense in Pahrump. A project can bring jobs and investment, but if it consumes enormous amounts of water, creates environmental risks, or changes the character of our community permanently, we need to ask whether the price is worth paying. And when it comes to medical waste or other potentially hazardous industrial activities, the consequences of an accident or contamination event could be especially serious. We also need to think about cumulative impacts. Maybe one project doesn't seem like a major threat by itself, but what happens when we approve one, then another, then another? Eventually, demands on our water and infrastructure will become much greater than anyone anticipated. Pahrump should not become a place where outside industries become because land is inexpensive and regulations are convenient. While the local residents are left carrying the long-term environmental impacts. We should put water safety first.

Voice Ahear it at 4:51:32

Thank you, sir Sam anybody on the phone, please

Voice Ghear it at 4:51:36

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Dhear it at 4:51:42

Yes, Amy Nelson, N-E-L-S-O-N. This is supposed to be a closed loop system. And if you read upon those kinds of systems, they are known to leak year round, and then they have to be cleaned. And the solution that's used is like a, from what I've read, like an antifreeze kind of chemical, and it leaches into the ground and contaminates the water. The water that isn't used is going to be contaminated, and it doesn't take very much time. And also, you'll read that within five years, these plants are kind of deserted, and they don't bring jobs once they're completed. They're a seven-foot. Seven-story tall ice store in the middle of the Mojave that's killing our plant life, killing our animal life, and affecting the birds, and there's even special information in the backup about getting permission or something for airplanes and radar. I'm sorry that you clumped all these together because they each have their problems and absolutely no two data centers and that man that spoke earlier.

Voice Hhear it at 4:53:08

and said there's a bunch of us that don't want these, you're darn right. Everybody I know doesn't want them. So let him bring his friends and his people and show us how many people want them because so far that isn't showing up in these meetings and we should be able to have what we want from our commissioners and I'm from District 2.

Voice Dhear it at 4:53:33

And I'm John Koenig's constituent, and I've been here for 15 years. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 4:53:41

Come on down and promptly thank you, Amy.

Voice Fhear it at 4:53:45

Hello, Jillian Howard, H-O-W-A-R-D, District 4, been here 25 plus years. I ask that you, as the board, listen to the majority of your constituents and vote to ban the data center. Another option, a vote by the people. We have heard a lot of discussion about the proposed data center, and we've heard Brent Mead's statement that they are the silent majority that supports the project. If that is true, then there should be no fear of allowing the people to have their voices heard through a public vote. But before that can happen, we have to address something that's critical, and it's called trust. At this point in time, the people in Pahrump don't have trust in the developers nor the company.

Voice Ihear it at 4:54:25

The residents of this community deserve transparency. They deserve confidence that decisions affecting our water, power, infrastructure, and future are being made openly and with the best interests of the people in mind. This is not about being against progress. I am not against progress. It is about making sure progress is responsible and that people who will live with the consequences have a voice in the decision. A project this size deserves the voice of the people. We are asking for a ban, albeit temporary, on a new data center approval until maybe the voters have the opportunity to decide through a special election. Although I'd rather you ban it now. This is not about stopping anyone's rights, it's about protecting the community while the democratic process takes place. If the supporters of this project truly believe that the silent majority supports it, then they are welcome at the opportunity to prove it at the ballot box. We believe that those advocating for the data center should help fund the special elections so the people can make the final decision. Our elected officials have an opportunity to do what is right, restore trust, protect the voice of the people, and allow a fair process. But if they will not do what's right, then the people will. Through a citizen initiative petition, the data center prohibition ordinance will take action to place this decision directly into the hands of the people. until the election occurs we are asking for a pause or prohibition on any new data center approvals

Voice Ahear it at 4:55:47

Thank you very much. Come on down, sir.

Voice Bhear it at 4:55:52

Reggie Federal, F-E-D-R-O, for the record. We know how this works, commissioners. When data centers, when they are sold by the new owners, which they probably will be, the original bonds disappear. The original agreements vanished. Successor owners have no legal obligation to this community none whatsoever. There is no contractual mechanism, no bond structure, no agreement that survives the transfer of ownership. Data center developers cannot promise accountability beyond the moment of sale. And the record shows they will not. This cannot change. Tax revenue does not compensate for permanent damage to our water, our air, land, and wildlife. Data centers deplete our aquifer, draining the water that sustains us. They drain our power grid, requiring infrastructure upgrades.

Voice Chear it at 4:56:59

We did not choose, okay? And this is all over the nation. It's all over the United States. So why should we start here? They discharge heat that degrades air quality. They contaminate groundwater through industrial cooling. They cause ground sinking from heavy water extraction damage that compounds over decades. The operational noise and vibration

Voice Bhear it at 4:57:24

The grapes happen our habitat for protected desert tortoises on the extensive BLM lands surrounding us which are you know and for my migratory and resident birds when we lose these species we destabilize the entire ECO system that sustains this region. We're in a desert. We break the web of life.

Voice Ehear it at 4:57:56

Thank you, sir.

Voice Bhear it at 4:57:56

We deepen down.

Voice Ehear it at 4:57:57

Thank you very much. Come on down, sir.

Voice Bhear it at 4:58:07

Thank you guys for letting me share.

Voice Dhear it at 4:58:11

Terry Greenwald G-R-E-E-N-W-A-L-D-T I don't know who's typing I guess somebody's got it. First off I'd like to bring an ADA issue to the commissioners if I could. I have a disability for hearing so I don't hear real well so I talk louder than I should because I think I need to hear myself which probably not my wife says not a good idea all the time but could you turn your volume up or maybe speak a little closer to the mic so I can.

Voice Bhear it at 4:58:37

people can hear you in the back my hearing aid doesn't work back there is too much volume in here and also the fonts on there you're getting the fonts can make them a little bigger we can read them halfway back and then we could read it not have to do that so that's just some side notes

Voice Dhear it at 4:58:52

I hope that doesn't count my time. Okay, data centers. I'm actually for data centers. I think if we don't build them, we're going to be eating grilled steak and ribeyes with chopsticks in 20 years. Now, maybe that's far-fetched, but it's some truth in that. So we have to do our part, but we have to do it smartly.

Voice Chear it at 4:59:15

Now, we live in a whole new world. We don't, and I know you guys have pretty much made up your minds. I know there's no, we're either going or not. You guys.

Voice Dhear it at 4:59:09

But it's it's some truth in that so we have to do our part, but we have to do it smartly Now we live in a whole new world. We don't and I know you guys have pretty much made up your minds I I know there's no we're either going or not you guys are sitting here doing what you need to do I appreciate that but we know where it's going probably So my question is this In the world right now, stuff is coming in everywhere, information. England just had a blowout with their data center that blew 17 of the district grids off the map. Those people are without electricity. They got most of them back online, only a few thousand. I guess it's a big deal here in August, though, with our senior citizens. Those are the things we don't have plans for. Does our sheriff, I'm sorry, does our, I know he's, I talked to him earlier, but does our fire chief, does he have the equipment, does he have the fully encapsulated butyl rubber suits and the neutralizing agents to fight a fire out there? We don't even know what the hell they're going to have in there. Are they going to have radioactive waste pathogens? I don't know. What did they have in Cheyenne? They dirtied the water. They put that stuff in the water.

Voice Ahear it at 5:00:24

Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir.

Voice Ahear it at 5:00:29

do we have.

Voice Dhear it at 5:00:29

second. Sir, I've asked them to bring you, we have hearing aids that hook up to the system. I've asked them to bring it out for you. Okay. I'm good now. Hang around there somewhere. Alright.

Voice Ehear it at 5:00:43

Uh, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

Voice Ghear it at 5:00:45

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Jhear it at 5:00:53

Paula Thompson, T-H-O-M-P-S-O-N. I'm a proud Pahrump resident of only four years, but I've been visiting here for over 15 years as this is the home of my mother. I love this valley. I love this community, and I love the people that call Nye County home. Commissioners, why do you not hear us? How many more times do we need to keep coming before you before we can get a permanent ban on all day data centers, especially those that would take the water from Basin 162 and the data centers, no matter what they're calling themselves, such as the Man's Tech Campus. I mean, that's a lovely little name to hide behind when in fact it's a hideous environmental damaging data center. If once again you're unable for whatever reason to give us a permanent ban on these data centers, can you at least give us a ban that goes into effect today and holds until there's a vote of the people? It's just amazing to me that you live here and some of you... seem to care less about what the rest of us are feeling and thinking as we have to continually come back. It just seems like you would sell our water and our environment for nothing more than blood money. Blood money meaning if there's one child, one family, or even one household that is permanently damaged by these data centers. We know in reality that number is much higher than just one, but if it affects just one, then that is more than enough to put a ban on these things and stop it now. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:02:40

Thank you. Come on down, ma'am.

Voice Khear it at 5:02:44

Good afternoon. My name is Mary Rose, last name Parkin, P-A-R-K-M-A-N. Over the course of several lengthy meetings, many have lasted six to seven hours, the overwhelming majority of public comments have voiced strong opposition to data centers. The resounding public outcry should compel the commissioners, all of you, to act decisively and ban these developments. The July 25th town hall saw a packed audience. Over two to three hundred people showed up, united in their message and concern and the opposition to data centers. Just like today's attendance, there was a line around the building. The same on August 4 and then again on July 21. They're all filled to capacity, further proving the depth of community engagement. engagement and resistance to data centers. In-person and online calls to action have surged, demonstrating a widespread, organized, and passionate community response. Attendance at the waterboard meetings, attendance at the regional planning meetings, all of those have seen record participation, underscoring the urgency and the scale of our public's concern. The facts make one thing clear. The only responsible course for you as commissioners is to ban data centers in our community. Residents stand united in their opposition to data centers. This is not a small group. As you know, almost 4,000 on just the one survey alone. This is the voice of the community. Numbers don't lie. Public opposition is overwhelmingly consistent and undeniable. Please vote to ban. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:04:38

Thank you. Come on down, Tammy.

Voice Dhear it at 5:04:44

Good afternoon. It seems like we've been here since yesterday and this is morning. So Tammy Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N. First of all, in a bit of clarity, when asked why here, it was because it was the water, the... grid everything was here well they can go down to anywhere on one i-95 or highway 95 because that has the same power source they would just have to put in wells and put in sewer and septic guess what it was going to be more expensive so guess what perump is their choice because it's cheaper people who live in perump should

Voice Lhear it at 5:05:30

Take precedence over that. Many of the changes of definition, sorry, since Fernie County cannot properly permit and construct a splash pad, so it would be ludicrous to think they could properly create ordinances, permit, regulate and oversee the construction of a massive data center. Driving into Pahrump, a campus of approximately 20 behemoth buildings with 75-foot walls would look like every bit of a maximum security prison. That's what we would look like. There will be multiple instances where data centers have poisoned local water sources. We have only one water source. Increased tax revenue is their carrot. We'll give you money if we can have your water. You can't drink money. Speaking of taxes, due to depreciation, the governor's tax abatements and timeline to build the structure of this size, tax revenues would be distant and fleeting. Due to the short... list and hundreds other not listed that other people have already voiced there needs to be a moratorium on any current or future data centers until citizens have had an opportunity to put issue to a vote thank you

Voice Ehear it at 5:06:48

Thanks, Tammy. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:06:51

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 5:06:58

Hey, thank you for taking my call. My name is Philip Conrad. It is C-O-N-R-A-D. I'm in District 4. I'm also in opposition to the data centers, and it's not because I oppose technology jobs or economic growth, but because I oppose sacrificing our community's future for projects that may place enormous demands, not only our water, power, land, and quality of life. but everything else that coexist with it. Trump is a desert community. Water is not an unlimited resource here. Every major industrial project must be judged by how much water it will consume, not only under ideal conditions, but during drought, extreme heat, equipment failure, and future growth. Data centers require substantial water for cooling. That water would be taken from the same finite systems that support our homes, farms, businesses, and families. The proposed facilities will operate around the clock. This means industrial noise all day, cooling equipment, backup generators, fans, construction activity, constant vehicle traffic. Residents should not have to choose between sleeping and living near their own homes with these behemoths going on. Then there's the power demand. These facilities will require enormous amounts of electricity, potentially placing additional strain on a local grid. Residents should not face higher costs of electricity, reduced reliability, or power interruptions because private corporations are operating energy-intensive facilities in the middle of a desert. This is the wrong place. Please vote against these data centers. Ban them forever. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:08:37

Thank you, sir. Come on down and prompt, please. I don't think it's on.

Voice Lhear it at 5:08:45

Brandi McLemurray, M-C-K-L-E-M-U-R-R-Y. I'm opposed to the DAS Center. I'm District 2 and we've lived here almost four years. A few years ago, I asked my child's pediatrician about the possibility of him being autistic. One of the concerns I voiced was sound sensitivity. Whenever he was in church for corporate worship, he would say it was too loud, even when it definitely wasn't. Because this situation was the only situation where I had really noticed it, my concerns were dismissed. Dismissed. What I knew is that my child loves singing songs about and learning about Jesus.

Voice Nhear it at 5:09:17

He now finally has a diagnosis. I know now why church was such an issue. Because I've since realized it isn't just church. It's the choral concert my aunt did in a cathedral. It's opening, closing, and games at Awana, which he loves, and the multipurpose building. There is something about the way sound acts in big, echoey, and closed places that my child perceives as too loud, even if it isn't. In the NTSC video, they talked about the decibel level. What they failed to recognize is the type of sound. The constant never-ending whining noise of electronics that isn't the same as cars driving by, putting the data center in could displace families with autistic children just because their child can't deal with the noise. My son's occupational therapist shares these concerns. Who is going to take responsibility for the cost of their relocation to somewhere outside the reach of this noise pollution? Will the families have to bear the cost because they bought a house never imagining they'd be neighbors with a data center? My son recently was not able to stay at church because the sound system was whining all through Sunday school. He's good at masking, so his teachers had no idea that he had a massive headache. As soon as he was with me, it was clear there was something wrong. He could not live with the constant whining noise of a data center neighbor. I hope you consider that our why of opposition is not ignorance, as has been the assumption, but a deep concern for the people we love in our lives and their daily well-being, knowing firsthand the struggles they face with constant tech noises and their ability to hear things most people can't. As our commissioners, will you represent all the people in your districts, including the ones with disabilities, thinking through the pros and cons with consideration to how it will affect the autistic. the autistic community and others with auditory sensitivities

Voice Ahear it at 5:10:48

Thank you very much. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:10:52

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ohear it at 5:11:00

Hi, this is Nanette Markham, M-A-R-K-H-A-M. I live in the South District, District 5, in Mountain Falls. And, of course, my concerns are the same as everyone's out. my house value I'm worried about because it will go down nobody and nobody wants to live near a data center the noise the lights the health issues that it may cause the risk outweigh the dollars that we may or may not get So please, I'm asking that you oppose and ban AI campuses and data centers. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:11:43

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Lhear it at 5:11:49

My name is Hart Fleshauer, F-L-E-I-S-C-H-H-A-U-E-R.

Voice Mhear it at 5:11:58

We all have to question why is the data center making us all these promises? They're talking about building a new shopping center with a Target and water slides and all this other stuff. In fact, last night I got a very offensive text message saying that it's going to lower our property taxes and that they're going to build a new hospital. For the record, that hospital is a very beautiful building. The problem isn't the building, it's the management of the hospital.

Voice Phear it at 5:12:25

So building a new hospital is not going to fix that problem, all right? But the reason why they're making all these promises because they know there's going to be problems with light pollution, noise pollution, and everything else. I heard someone earlier today talk about they could hear their cars from the racetrack at their house. This is going to be much, much louder than the racetrack, and it's not going to be for a few hours, two days a week. It's going to be 24-7 louder than the racetrack. You'll hear it all through the valley, I guarantee you. All right? So they're making all these promises because they're like the devil. You people are dealing with the devil and he's coming after our souls, the citizen souls, and you're the one that's dealing our souls to the devil, our water to the devil. All right? And my soul is not for sale. All right? The reason why they want to put it here is because they want our water. They can build it someplace else, but the water is someplace else. And people talk about legislate, don't ban. That's a horrible idea. Legislation means there's going to be rules, and if they break the rules, they have to pay a fine. What good is paying a fine going to do when we have children that are being born with deformities and cancer rates going up? This is all we're going to find the data center that's going to fix it? I don't think so. Please, we don't need to put this to the vote of the people. You people already know what the people want. We don't want this data center. One of you needs to make a motion to ban the data centers. Somebody else second it, vote on it, and the other two agendas don't need to be on the agenda.

Voice Ehear it at 5:13:57

Sam, anybody on the phone please. You want to get finished?

Voice Bhear it at 5:14:02

We got to get it finished go ahead

Voice Nhear it at 5:14:04

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record. Harry Radomski, Town Administrative Coordinator. With the data center moratorium in place giving us some time, Beatty would like the BOCC to consider setting a second meeting in November as the date for the public hearing. That would make the backup due November 2nd. Our reasoning is that we hope someone from planning will be attending board meetings in our communities throughout the county to discuss the bill with the public and answer any questions they may have. This would give planning time to get their presentation scheduled in September and October. It will give the boards time to hear the presentations, review the bill, and prepare and provide quality feedback on the bill. The recommended date of September 15th would require boards to submit comments by September 3rd. This would give boards less than 30 days to publicly discuss, pose questions to planning, publicly review again, and draft a letter. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:15:00

Thank you. Come on down.

Voice Nhear it at 5:15:06

Hello. My name is Teresa Moran. I'm a property owner out here.

Voice Ehear it at 5:15:11

Can you spell your last, please?

Voice Nhear it at 5:15:14

My maiden name is Mankins. I was brought out here at three days old. I have grown up with Pahrump, truly enjoyed watching it grow, moved away several times to get better paying jobs, so I understand the job market.

Voice Phear it at 5:15:29

But I got to tell you, it really disturbs me to see us voting for something that may affect our water, perhaps our livelihood out here because of the constant noise. The fact of the big boxes, I'm not quite sure what that would do aesthetically for the trip out here or living out here. I know driving down Mance Road, I wouldn't particularly like to see seven foot tall boxes around, and I think it's going to be taller than that. Was it 70 foot that I heard quoted at one point? So that's a little crazy to me. Anyway, just letting you know, I am not for the data center, and I wish you guys good luck. Please don't do it. My family did with PEC when they sat on these boards, they thought that they were getting a good deal with Preferred Equity Corporation and instead Preferred Equity Corporation lied the entire time. They cut in roads for us, they gave us a beautiful high school, they gave us this building that we're now standing in.

Voice Nhear it at 5:16:31

It was really quite attractive when I was young. The only problem was we thought they were putting in water to all those properties. No, we had just yellow fire hydrants out there that weren't attached to anything. We didn't discover that out for decades. So anyway, just asking you to make sure you dot your I's, cross your T's, and try not to put this data center in. Thank you very much for your time.

Voice Ehear it at 5:16:52

Thank you Sam anybody on the phone, please

Voice Ghear it at 5:16:56

Yes, Chair, the caller has unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Jhear it at 5:17:05

Hi, good afternoon. My name is Laura Dolidak, spelling D-O-L-A-J-A-K, excuse my dogs. As you've seen and unanimously heard, we own a beautiful home very close to the proposed area. Um, we are for a total 100% ban on this. Our home is not threatened and our sanctuary and peace will be destroyed. Moving isn't an option because no one will buy once they realize what's happening close to our home. Throughout the U.S., there are a multitude of legal suits filed as we speak. These include class action suits, with many more being filed regarding data centers and the following issues. Excessive noise pollution, light pollution and vibration 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Loss of property value and inability to sell. Health impacts to include headaches, migraines, anxiety, infertility, stillbirths in both human and livestock, to name a few, as well as plant growth and seed viability, which are negatively impacted, not to mention the long-term implications we are yet to know. Environmental emissions, an increase in heat emissions 24-7 in an already very hot environment, data water consumption and storage, and an already alarming drought. drought further causing a decrease in our already terrifyingly low water table, communities are also reporting a drastic decrease in water pressures. Congressional hearings have been ongoing regarding chemically contaminated groundwater and aquifers from communities near data centers. Water is not something we can sacrifice. Increasing electric and water bills despite assurances to the contrary. Humongous compounds with walls up to 95 feet tall will not only destroy the beauty of our valley, but also serve as a 24-7 surveillance of surrounding areas and homes. Once the beauty of our town is gone, we

Voice Qhear it at 5:18:54

While up to 95 feet tall will not only destroy the beauty of our valley, but also serve as a 24-7 surveillance of surrounding areas and homes. Once the beauty of our town is gone, we

Voice Ahear it at 5:19:08

Thank you. Thank

Voice Qhear it at 5:19:08

can't you, get it.

Voice Ahear it at 5:19:09

ma'am. Thank you. Come on down and prompt, please.

Voice Dhear it at 5:19:17

My name is Sunny Singh Jim, and I don't even know why we're talking about this because where we live and the water rations that we've had because I'm on water rations and so is everybody else that's on city water. Okay, one of the things I haven't heard these myopic thinking people bring up is how many generations are we thinking here ahead of? I mean, are we thinking seven generations like Native Americans do? Heck no, we're not even thinking. our own just our own lifetime nobody cares all they want to do is move this thing with warp speed and that's fine and these guys here that want jobs I get it but they don't maybe they forget history we were in Grand Junction in the 80s when ExxonMobil fracked the heck out of that town moved out and left all of us looking for jobs and we don't have to move out too We had to move to Washington State because we couldn't get a job in Denver. We didn't have that kind of experience. So we had to move out and start over. And this is what's going to happen here. It's just a matter of time. And why these guys, when they want to build these data centers, don't think future generations, I don't know. But nobody's ever addressed that at all. It's very myopic thinking and it's destructive and it won't work. It's not a long-term thing. It really isn't. Oh, I don't know. That's the way I feel. And I'm really, you know, I'm sorry for these guys back here. I understand I'm union too, IBEW or I was. And, you know, I'm very much a union person, but not when it comes to screwing us up and messing up our environment just for somebody to work and go to Vegas and they don't have to look at what we got to deal with, including water rations. I want to put a lawn in, I know it's trivial, for my dogs. And I had somebody on the lines out here tell me, you don't need a lawn. Your dogs don't need a lawn. I said, why? It's 2,000 square feet. Why can I put one in? Well, they don't want me to use the water for my dogs, but it's okay to use it for a data center? That's BS. Well, it's fair. It's not fair. This is, I'm sorry. You know, I don't go for it. I don't like it. And it's just,

Voice Ahear it at 5:21:20

you. Can you spell your last name for us, ma'am?

Voice Ahear it at 5:21:29

Thank you very much.

Voice Ahear it at 5:21:31

Yeah, come on down, please.

Voice Ghear it at 5:21:36

My name is Samantha Bathurst. That's B-A-T-H-U-R-S-T. And thank you commissioners for allowing me to speak. I just wanted to begin with a quote from Thomas Jefferson. The only safe repository for power is in the hands of the people. And be you a Republican or Democrat, we can all agree with that statement. So being that everybody is saying no to the ban, please consider. banning it today with a vote of no of all places why would data centers choose to jeopardize the water supply and tranquility in a predominantly senior community this is not a suitable location for a data center and this is why Pahrump is a community of hard-working Americans who have worked their whole lives and used their savings to invest in their retirement homes away from all the noise

Voice Rhear it at 5:22:30

Doubling the use of the well water supply will have an inevitably devastating outcome in the future of this community where water is already scarce. The small projected water usage numbers are definitely a facade. When you consider all the power plants it will take to power these buildings, you must realize that it will take more water than is being projected to the public to generate that power. We are all connected by a grid, sharing electricity and water, which are things that human beings need to survive, which impacts risks to the public health and safety. The noise they make, as you have heard, is 24-7, 365 days a year. It is a constant buzzing sound that is debilitating, making it hard to sleep, among many other things. Why subject seniors to a very loud and torturous sound that cannot be escaped? Right now, this situation is so unregulated, powerful companies are coming in to build data centers without safety standards, health standards, and without environmental standards, and Parumpians are just not interested in being part of this experiment. Not only that, but Parump is known for its poof dirt when it gets wet or experiences... Oh, thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:23:39

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:23:44

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Qhear it at 5:23:51

Hi, my name is Beth Murphy. Thank you for letting me speak today. I called earlier. I apologize. I was out of, you know, out of line as far as what I wanted to speak. I'm in District 2. I've had my property in Pahrump for 32 years. listening to everybody today I've been listening off and on at work I'm still at work they just went over the basic everything water is the main thing you had a gentleman that was speaking and another memorandum moratorium that he's down 25 feet on as well it his weld has been depleted by 25 feet This comes in, our wells are going to be compromised, and you have one on your commission. One of the commissioners is a water rights broker, and if we needed to get water rights and we're out of water, how much does that cost us? That's a big question, but I just want, I'm going to be brief. I researched all these data centers, what everybody's saying is true. You've got major lawsuits going on regarding water. The chemicals that are being used and so forth, I say no. Let's ban everything, no data center and corrupt.

Voice Ahear it at 5:25:08

Ma'am, can you spell your last name for us, please?

Voice Qhear it at 5:25:12

Yes, it's M-U-R-P-H-Y.

Voice Ahear it at 5:25:15

Thank you. Go ahead and prompt, please.

Voice Rhear it at 5:25:25

Angelina Jackson, J-A-C-K-S-O-N.

Voice Shear it at 5:25:28

I'd like to start off by again requesting that Mrs. Strickland recuse herself on the matters of the data center due to her owning a water well drilling business, being a water rights broker. And also her having a conversation with Mr. Meads during the Board of the Water District Board meeting where the microphone was on and she has heard it saying, you know who I am, I'm all for it. If you do not believe me, please review the video from that meeting. On those reasons, I request that she immediately recuse herself or Mr. Chairman, that you recuse her of her duties. Now if I could please have my time restarted

Voice Shear it at 5:26:15

because of that.

Voice Ahear it at 5:26:16

your time is running.

Voice Shear it at 5:26:17

Oh, that's fine. With that being said, we will not have to worry about water depletion because you won't be able to consume the water up in five years minimum. What goes up must come down. All the MS, all the dirty energy that's going to be dispersed when they're... Emptying out from that closed loop system, the waste, it's going to go up and it's got to come down. We cannot be compared to any other city that has a data center in it. They don't have the same soil. They don't have the same anything that we do. We are very unique in that form. If you guys want to keep this in Nye County, take it at least 100 miles outside of Pahrump. Build it as big as you want, but on those, and here's the thing, when in five years, I have nothing to gain or lose. I could take the clothes on my back and my dog and be gone, but most of the people here, they put their life into it, and in five years when they can't consume that water,

Voice Shear it at 5:27:28

you guys will be held liable.

Voice Ehear it at 5:27:29

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:27:32

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Thear it at 5:27:39

Hello, Commissioners, Bruce Schatz from the LHN-SOM, and I just wanted to go on the record as being official that I oppose this data center for many different factors a lot of the people here have already discussed. I'm not going to get into that. I'll yield it there. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:27:59

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Uhear it at 5:28:03

Oh, commissioners, I am Sultan Prince Ahmed Eric Coleman, C-O-L-E-M-A-N. First of all, I love America, your rock and roll, your blue jeans, your Tom and Gary cartoons, the best part of America, everything for sale, okay? How much you want? You want some money? Thanks. I wanted all, I buy Delta Center, but now I want your land, I want your water, I want your women, all of them. Ha ha ha. Please allow me to introduce myself. I am Sultan Prince, owner of Data Center. What you think, man's technology is building giant server farm out in the desert? They could not run a bath. It is a fake name! They have not built one thing! Look it up, they have not built one thing. It's a joke name! I ask my secretary what is good name for my mans. She says plural of mans is of men is mans. I said that's it man! man's technology! Look, I know it's controversial, I mean, the un, you know... I mean the unbelievably annoying droning noise, the huge power drain on everyone, this creepy feeling that soon it will all be dried up down there. But enough about Deborah Strickland, let's talk about the data center, okay? I don't want to say Debbie is crooked, but Bernie Madoff invested in her Ponzi scheme. Boss, she take my money. Ron, he know so easy. Ron no take my money. I to promise him AI girlfriend. 72 AI girlfriends. Ron's tell me, Ron's tell me he have second thought. He say he have second thought about selling out town of Pahrump. I said, here's what you do, Ronny. You sleep on it. You ask God. You say, am I doing the right thing? Then you sleep on it. Then the next day I... Say I ask Ronnie, how he doing? He said, oh it great I have dream

Voice Thear it at 5:30:07

You're done. Peace. Sam, who we got on the phone? Sheriff, if he doesn't shut up, he needs to go. Now. You're out. You're out. Peace. Peace. Peace.

Voice Bhear it at 5:30:30

Manager, did he get his money back? We need to give him his money back, please.

Voice Ghear it at 5:30:41

I touch anything.

Voice Bhear it at 5:30:42

Sam, we got anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:30:47

Yes, sure. The color is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Qhear it at 5:30:53

Hi, yeah, this is Carrie Dickerson.

Voice Ahear it at 5:31:01

You need to turn off whatever you're bleeding through.

Voice Rhear it at 5:31:08

is bleeding through okay anyway um thanks for letting me speak is my freedom today and I feel a threat to a weather a threat to our power

Voice Vhear it at 5:31:28

Like this. They had a cyber attack on power and weather last week. They called that acts of terrorism. And I really believe that, you know, this is the Wild West and we need to keep it wild. And basically that's all I'm saying. Thank you so much.

Voice Ehear it at 5:31:52

She didn't give us her name. Her name. All right.

Voice Ahear it at 5:31:54

Come on down, sir. Yes, you do.

Voice Ehear it at 5:31:59

How am I supposed to follow that last guy?

Voice Ahear it at 5:32:01

A good try. Try.

Voice Ehear it at 5:32:04

I'll do my best. Mixed fat, rich CBJ, E-T-K-O-B-I-C-H, District 2. Ron, you had asked us quite adamantly to look into these data centers, and we did.

Voice Uhear it at 5:32:19

I was at the water meeting a week or so ago, and we listened to the expert, and I listened to everything he had to say, and respectfully, after he was done, I wouldn't trust him to manage a lemonade stand. If he builds data centers the way he builds houses, we're in trouble.

Voice Ehear it at 5:32:38

About a year or two ago, whenever there was that lithium fire on the highway going to L.A. and Baker, it took them like two days to put that out. What do you think is going to happen to a 75-foot, 20-building megastructure if something goes wrong? And I hope not, but it will. So I'm simply saying everything that everybody else had said, ban the data centers. And if we're not here to be able to do that, then why are we here bargaining and pleading and begging? And if, if you were insistent on ignoring all of us, all 4,000 people on the petition, except for the guy in the blue shirt, to put this through, not that guy, the other guy, I fly in and out of Vegas every week for work, and I look out the window and I see plenty of space where I'm pretty sure no human feet have walked.

Voice Uhear it at 5:33:28

Aside from the 4,000 people, there's a handful of orange shirts here that want to work really hard. Let's send them out there and put up something out there so you guys can bring in revenue for the... The county or what have you if you won't just ban this outright and as far as you were you guys were you know demanding decorum I will simply say that if you are rude to constituents especially the women husbands will feel the need to be chivalrous so I would in closing to try to take the highest ground possible I would love

Voice Whear it at 5:34:03

For us to all respect the decisions you make in our better half and

Voice Whear it at 5:34:08

not be loathe. Thank you very much.

Voice Ahear it at 5:34:11

on the phone please.

Voice Ghear it at 5:34:13

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Qhear it at 5:34:20

Wow, it's been a while. Beth Borosevich, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H. I thought this item was to set a date or set when we were going to vote, but I have a simple, very simple idea on how we can resolve this. According to, if we go to initiative, there was 27,059 voters who cast ballots. In addition, there was another 33,820 active voters registered. So we have to take 15% of the people who actually voted, not the people, the number of people who voted, and that gives us a number of voters that we would have to get to say yes to ban these data centers. I know I called Cory and I missed her and I don't know exactly how many signatures we're supposed to get. But I estimated around 4,059. I request... That you take the signatures that Commissioner Bain has gathered and put them into the record as opposition to the bill and to the idea of having data centers here. And then if we need more, we can get more. That's how simple this thing is. You know what's right. Deborah, please curtail your comments until everybody else has spoken because you are leaving and I know you care about the town. However, I don't think that you're thinking along the bright lines that we are thinking. So please. The other thing is I wanted to let you know that we have places in Northeast Knight County that we

Voice Qhear it at 5:36:24

can set up

Voice Qhear it at 5:36:24

centers in. One of them...

Voice Rhear it at 5:36:32

My name is Serena Grzynski, G-R-U-D-J-E-N-S-K-I. I'm not going to come up here and say save the water, save the environment. However, though, did you know that there's 500 local municipal and county jurisdictions across at least 40 states have fought to later place temporary bans and moratoriums on data center construction?

Voice Ghear it at 5:36:51

It's a big idea to think of. If it was really a great thing for any of these counties across the country, you would think that people wouldn't be fighting it as hard because a lot of people care about the future of the way things are going of this planet. Now, like, for instance, the Colorado River crisis, I don't know if anyone of you guys up here know about that, but our state's one of the ones that will be affected. If Colorado says, we need to save our water, good luck, Nevada, California and Arizona.

Voice Xhear it at 5:37:18

Um, but with this.

Voice Yhear it at 5:37:21

I can't believe my grandfather was right. He had told me back when I was my daughter's age that technology would be what kills this planet and the human beings living on it. And here we are fighting data centers. When I had brought up bringing up doing something for the children, I didn't mean building data centers so they can save their selfies on Google Photos, guys. That's what you're fighting. To build here data storage for selfies for AI videos being created We didn't do it back in the day. So it's not a life need When I said bring something for the kids I meant like, you know a youth center or something like that Yosemite centers, unfortunately, do bring a huge problem down on humanity and the earth as a whole, and it should be looked more into. Because the only ones that benefit are the millionaires and billionaires building them. I mean, where do you guys benefit? Are they going to give you millions to, you know, make fresh water? Are they going to sit there and build homes where you're not affected by this? I mean, I can't believe in the perrump of all places that sale for the government are

Voice Ehear it at 5:38:33

Thank you Sam.

Voice Yhear it at 5:38:34

siding with them.

Voice Ehear it at 5:38:35

How about anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:38:37

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Qhear it at 5:38:44

Patricia Grubbe, RLBV. I hope you really listen to everyone. I am so tired of all this data center.

Voice Ghear it at 5:38:39

If unmuted, please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Zhear it at 5:38:44

Yes, Patricia Grubb, R-L-B-B. I hope you really listen to everyone. I am so tired of all this data center stuff. I'll be so glad when it all goes away and it's history, but speaking about history, someone mentioned Preferred Equities Corporation and their promises that they made that should be a great source of an example on not to believe promises. We know how that went. We don't need to go there. We need to be working with nature, not against it. We've already lost our horses. I don't know where they all went, but they went away. And now we're talking about water, what's going to happen with the aquifer and everyone else. We need to listen to the people. So just like we've been proposing for the... utility challenge lots, we are proposing conservation. There are other ways. I've actually been in touch with several different companies that offer alternative utilities and ways to save our water, and they would love to come here and help out. So it's just right now, there's so many restrictions and so many things that you guys have to deal with. I hope you listen to the people and do what's right. Thank you.

Voice Zhear it at 5:40:06

happened to the coat of the west? Yeah.

Voice Ahear it at 5:40:09

Come on down, sir.

Voice Dhear it at 5:40:13

Good afternoon. My name is Kirk Sariati, C-E-R-I-O-T-T-I. District 5, my wife and I, Terry, we've been here for 13 years. And the one thing that we did when we first got here is she called me outside and she says, listen, I go, what? I don't hear anything. She said exactly. So we treasure that. We treasure that. My father is 97 years old and still kicking and he gave me some life. It's just some life advice when I was leaving home. He said, son, if it sounds too good to be true, it is. And that was good 50 years ago as it is today. All the promises, everything that's being said. I did a search for, because I got that same, I looked at that same thing that said our property taxes are going to go down half, half, 50%. So I looked up what I could find. Has there ever been any where a data center's at? Is there any community that's property taxes that have actually gone down? And there's one in Virginia. Just one community where their property taxes went down. All right, so I don't know what bill of goods these people are selling, but what I do know when our resources are sucked dry, they're gone and we're still here and what are we going to do? So you guys have a decision to make. I say I'm for a total ban. Completely, we don't even need to talk about those other things. Just ban it and we can move on. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:42:10

Thank you. Come on down to the front, please.

Voice Dhear it at 5:42:22

Randy Pazik. P as in Paul, A-Z-I-K. This board has not presented one independent engineering study to validate or refute what is being presented by the developer and their engineers. This board has not executed the phrase trust but verify. Believing a developer of an $18 billion project will share the project's downside is irresponsible and dangerous. This board should have made it clear to the developer that approval will be dependent on two items.

Voice A2hear it at 5:42:50

Reviews by board chosen engineers of the project plans for cooling power consumption, aquifer noise, etc. All reviews to be done at the cost of the developer. If the developer says no, they're hiding something. The expense they'd incur pales to the $18 billion they're willing to invest in the project. In doing this, you are gathering unbiased information to both validate the positives of the project and additionally present the fallacies and negative. potentially long-term effects of the project. This board should not even consider making a decision without having all of this information on hand. This is called due diligence. The second condition of approval is allowing the community to decide by vote. Lacking information from our engineers, the Board should have obtained, people are forced to vote on emotions, not facts, good and bad. The community is angry. There are no engineering reports ordered by the Board to show positives and negatives. Based on that, people can only assume the worst, feel this project is the worst thing for any community and it's being jammed down their throat. The Board allowed a one-way presentation. by the developer no questions or pushback allowed the developer fundamentally stating there's no downside only an upside of millions in tax revenue and it's literally non-sensible nor realistic as it comes to the community voting on this engine issue you can't expect any member of the community to make an intelligent informed decision where the facts good and bad have not been presented the community should have online access to those facts with the least online and in-person presentations. Without access to the information, people's

Voice Ehear it at 5:44:24

Thank you, sir.

Voice A2hear it at 5:44:25

decision will be driven by fear.

Voice Ehear it at 5:44:26

Thank you, sir.

Voice Ehear it at 5:44:28

Can you leave, is that our copy? Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:44:36

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Dhear it at 5:45:11

anywhere supporting building a data center at Manson 160. Our land is a high risk for land subsidence. These are massive buildings that they will use massive amounts of land.

Voice Dhear it at 5:45:39

FEMA now has two massive reports against sharing the power grid with a data center because it ruins the grid within 20 miles causing physical and mental health issues, ruined appliances and fire hazards through dirty electricity from the data center on your grid. You will be all poison.

Voice B2hear it at 5:46:24

Deborah Thomas. I also, T -H-O-M-A-S. I also have run across the information that the previous speaker was sharing with you. It concerns me greatly because if we don't have potable water, our houses will be uninhabitable and our homes will be worth less. How many of us have... sold houses in other states or other areas and put every last dime into your house. That makes it really hard to move. I think we really need to, as a team, do some research and Find out what the real deal is because I am being told on one side one thing that it's just fine and on the other side that it's not fine. And I think that we need to take our time, but I think a temporary moratorium would be absolutely absolutely that may be the best choice and also having allowing that your constituents to take a vote and speak up thank you

Voice Ahear it at 5:48:10

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice Bhear it at 5:48:16

Roger Wilson, W-I-L-S-O-N. I'm going to jump to item 15. My questions may be premature, but I'm going to ask them anyway. If a special election is held in January, what will the ballot question be as defined in NRS Chapter 295? Would it be number one, a binding ballot question, or number two, a non-binding slash advisory ballot question?

Voice Ahear it at 5:48:51

Thank you sir. And I don't know the answer. Sam Coritas. Is there anybody on the phone please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:48:58

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Zhear it at 5:49:06

Oh, Commissioners, I was there this morning. This is Carolyn Allen, A-L-L-E-N, Amaragoza Town Board Chair. This asks to ban data centers in Pahrump and Basin 162 and all areas without a town board. I heard a bit ago Ms. Pittman said, send it out to 95. In other words, Ambrosa, Beattie, etc. This morning someone said Pahrump is these companies' litter box. Ambrosa has been Pahrump's litter box for years. And now the federal government is doing the same, as it always has, and we are ground zero. Send it out to Amar Gosa, District 1. Amar Gosa just caught an 8,000 acre solar project that got amended to a hyperscale. And we caught it, and we called out the way they did it, we called out the company. And I told them they had 72 hours to withdraw that with the BLM, and guess what? They did, because we've had relationships with these people. It's not, that's not the norm, though. Water is our concern in Basin 230 as well as everyone's survival. Ash meadows, Amargosa River, all of us. Amargosa loves peace, open land, and dark skies, too. The government, the governor, I'm sorry, gave 75% tax abatements, and that's what needs to change at the state level. This isn't our commissioner's fault. This is like Commissioner Baskovich said, it's coming if we don't do something. There's five commissioners in there, four from Pahrump, and someone asked them to protect Pahrump. As commissioners, I now ask you, please represent all of Nye County. Not just Trump. Don't send us to District 1, but we will continue to take care of ourselves. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:51:01

Thank you, Carolyn. Go ahead, Dwight.

Voice A2hear it at 5:51:03

Dwight Lilly, L-I-L-L-Y. Earlier a person talked about statistics and about Ian Bain's petition he has out there, and I think it's pretty clear that probably 95 to 99 percent of the public is against these data centers here but going beyond that i'm not going to continue on with what other other people are talking about let's look at the facts when i went to college i had to prove the theorem you sit down and prove it

Voice Dhear it at 5:51:32

And so I do research. I always learned how to do research. I studied what the Virginia legislature investigation had to say about data centers. I looked into what tax abatements are about data centers and about computers and about how in five years 95% of them get replaced. So when you start talking about depreciation and abatements, I don't know where John came up with a figure of $100 million in tax or something.

Voice Bhear it at 5:51:58

Because there sure isn't what the studies out there show. So what my theory is now proven to me and I've done lots of videos on this and I have nothing better to do in retirement than investigate stuff and research is that the ban makes sense. The people don't want it. What more do you need to know?

Voice A2hear it at 5:52:18

If I was to choose an ice cream for 100 people and 99 of them said they wanted vanilla and one said chocolate, I don't need any moratoriums to make a decision on that. I just say we're going with vanilla. So go with vanilla and just vote to ban this. That's what the people want. How many meetings in the world do we need to prove this theory? Thank you.

Voice Bhear it at 5:52:38

Thank you. Come on down, Tim.

Voice A2hear it at 5:52:44

Hi, it's Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. D5, seven years. I work with one of the top IT firms in the world. So I'm a little bit in tune with what's going on, what we need. I deal with financial institutions every single day. Compliance, in fact, we're merging on Thursday.

Voice Ahear it at 5:53:08

becoming one of the top ten. So data centers are very important. However, it's not one size fits all. Location, location, location does matter. Sitting on PRPC commission in June, we said no for having the

Voice A2hear it at 5:53:33

recommendation to the BLCC. Here was my rationale. From the adjustable beds in the Spring Valley Hospital maternity ward. Five hour marathon. My rationale was we had a ban saying hey no no no from the BLCC. My first inclination is why are we even looking at this? And then I said, okay, you know, my thoughts are this. We need more information. We don't have enough information at this time. Now, I would venture to say we have a lot more information today, some facts, some fiction. But we have more information today. We have more data. What we don't have is we don't have the voice of the people from a vote standpoint. I'm very strong on that. From a don't do anything from a construction standpoint, sorry, Russ, holding off until that election occurs is a good and wise choice because then it allows, hey, if it does go through, which I'm not necessarily a fan of on the location, then

Voice A2hear it at 5:54:45

that would be a challenge.

Voice Ehear it at 5:54:47

Come on down and prove it, ma'am. Could you spell your last name for the record?

Voice C2hear it at 5:54:58

I am I am Lou Comorosky K-O-M-O-R-O-W-S-K-I. I'm moving this town. No first I want to commend out my commissioner one for addressing the you people. That is a real integrity for a person to address that in front of the several people here, and I'm proud of you. Now, I am a living proof that water in this town is depleting. When I bought my house, I built a house and also the water. Two years ago, I get drip drip drip drip and I spent ten thousand dollars to have it go down to 300 feet. There was no need for that. Okay, now I'm asking you, please ban the no data center. That is going to take your water, and I hope all of you have $10,000 to prepare for your water. Okay? Now, save our water. All of us. All of us will be affected. A lot of people are buying water now. Will you imagine when there is no water? Please plan now, not after they have built. If we are good administration, all of you, you have the right. Make sure you protect your people, protect this town. I love my town. Okay? There are several offering me to buy my house.

Voice Ahear it at 5:57:03

Thank you. Thank you.

Voice C2hear it at 5:57:06

And don't let them. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 5:57:08

Do we got anybody on the phone please?

Voice Ghear it at 5:57:10

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice D2hear it at 5:57:18

Good evening, Commissioners. My name is Cheryl Butler-Adams. My last name is Cheryl B-U-T-L-E-R. I am excited to see so many voices out on this one issue. Some of them who don't know what AI is are speaking on it or have opinions, and I greatly appreciate that. What I'd like to advise the board is that before you decide yes or no, that Nye County should conduct an independent feasibility and impact study. I don't think you should have any decisions made until you have invested the time and energy to understand what the feasibility to this project brings to the community. Give us the facts on water, power, infrastructure, tax revenue, jobs, environmental impacts, and long-term costs. Require the developers to present reclaimed purple water and other water conservation options, show us case studies from communities where data centers have succeeded and where they haven't, then bring those findings back.

Voice E2hear it at 5:58:24

To present reclaimed purple water and other water conservation options, show us case studies from communities where data centers have succeeded and where they haven't, then bring those findings back to We the People. let nine county voters decide information first vote second I also like as much as I dislike math I want to clarify something that two people said earlier if there are 30 there are 37,114 active registered voters in nine counties for the 2026 primary If you have 3,500 who signed a petition, that's only 9.43% of the people who are registered to vote in Nye County actually voicing their concern. Please do not.

Voice Ahear it at 5:59:21

Thank you, ma'am. Go ahead, sir.

Voice F2hear it at 5:59:25

Kenyon Salter, SALZER. Ron, you said, you know, it's coming and there's nothing we can do about it.

Voice F2hear it at 5:59:32

on, hold on. The British was coming too. They said there's nothing we could do about that. But guess what? We celebrate July 4th for our freedom because we took it over. Another thing too, the gentleman that's behind us was saying that there's a lot of people out there for the data center. How many people on the phone are saying they're for the data center? Are they afraid to call on the phone since they're afraid to come here? And another thing, any of you got tinnitus? Because I do. I have ringing in my ears constantly 24 hours, seven days a week. Now I can imagine what's going to happen if that data center gets put in, how much louder it's going to be in my ears. I have hearing aids on. It's worse. My wife says, well, can you hear the TV? No. I can get a little bit of what they're saying on the TV. And she goes, well, can you watch TV like that? I just watch it. That's it. But I'm telling you, if you don't have ringing in years 24-7, you really don't want to have this data center because that's what's going to happen. And I'm telling you, it sucks. Because trying to get to sleep with ringing in your ears, I have it constantly. Even me talking right now, it's just ringing. No more data centers, period.

Voice Ehear it at 6:00:47

My mom has that. Come on down, sir.

Voice Bhear it at 6:00:53

Good afternoon. My name is Glenn Ledgerwood. I've been a builder in Pahrump for 25 years or so.

Voice Ehear it at 6:00:58

Can you do me a favor and spell?

Voice Bhear it at 6:01:00

L-E-D-G-E-R-W-O-O-D. I'm a large landowner here. I have a lot invested in this town.

Voice Ahear it at 6:01:08

The proposed data center on the Mance location compound consists of 800,000 square feet of building, 75 feet high. That will be the first thing you see when you drive into Pahrump. The Industrial Complex's emissions will potentially heat up the valley floor an additional five to seven degrees Fahrenheit. Nye County needs the vote to ban the data center in Basin 162.

Voice F2hear it at 6:01:34

including the Mance location that poses the greatest threat to our precious aquifer and the environment, not to mention it'll drive property values crazy down. The south end of town is one of Nye County's largest property tax base income streams. Why would you jeopardize or risk that? Currently, there are countless state cities and counties putting one year moratorium on these data centers.

Voice Ahear it at 6:02:01

To clarify and assess the effects that they have on the overall environment, resources, and neighborhoods. We need to slow down. I also agree with Bruce Jabor when he suggested last meeting that the decision whether to ban the data center in the Basin 162 should be on the ballot, including the proposed Mance location.

Voice F2hear it at 6:02:25

As he said, this is far too big for five commissioners to make a decision for 50,000 residents. It's the biggest thing I've ever seen in this town. Currently, Nye County is working on changing 900 acres of residential zoning to industrial, all connected to the Mads data center. The zoning process should be paused until the election results are in. This will show good faith to the community. And Mr. Bosovich, you said you can barely stand seeing these polar

Voice F2hear it at 6:02:55

fields, right? You ain't seen nothing yet, baby.

Voice Ahear it at 6:02:58

I'm so sorry.

Voice F2hear it at 6:02:59

You see these monster buildings?

Voice Ahear it at 6:03:00

I'm so sorry. Time is

Voice Ahear it at 6:03:03

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ahear it at 6:03:06

Come on down to the room, please.

Voice Xhear it at 6:03:10

Good afternoon, Cheryl Varcalis, Fiesenfichter, A-R-K-A-L-I-S. You've heard all the testimony. We've sat in hours and hours of meetings with all of you. We've written emails. We've protested. We've had special meetings on Saturdays. The room was packed. People had to stand outside, including me for two hours in 105 degree heat. The verdict is in. We need to ban the data centers. We don't want them here. We don't want to wait and see what happens. We don't want to wait for a solution. We just don't want them here. It's not the place. There's too many factors that negatively affect our Pahrump Valley and our communities, and we don't want them here. The answer is no. Please ban them.

Voice Ahear it at 6:03:59

Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice F2hear it at 6:04:05

Hello, my name is Chris Mahler, M-A-W-H-O-R-T-E-R, and I had mentioned previously when I came up here last time. The main reason I believe that majority of the people here, if not every person in this room moved here wasn't for a job. You don't come to Perrump for work. That's not why you're here. We all came here for the quiet. We came here for the stars. We came here for the animals, the wilderness, the sunsets, the wells, just living free, an acre of land or more. There is no reason to propose changing. residential property to industrial we live in a bowl there is no space in this bowl for industrial any kind everything that that thing pumps out is going to be trapped here just like every time the smoke comes from California we all get stuck in this bowl you'd think our town's on fire we're not on fire it's just stuck here So to think that that's the future, and like a lot of people had mentioned, I did the same thing. Sold everything I had, moved here to set up a family, have my kids. To think that that could be undone is heartbreaking. So I hope you guys, you know, start to feel from some hearts and envision the loss of all these people's dreams just so that someone can save some photos.

Voice G2hear it at 6:05:28

Somebody can ask ChatGBT how to bake cookies. Stupid shit. Nobody needs it. If they really need them, put them out where they're not going to disrupt anybody. Out in the middle of the desert, there's hardly any animals. It's not going to bother the lizards. There's hardly even any of them out there when you get way out there. Why are we right here where we have springs? I go hunting up in the mountains, there's water bubbling out of the ground. That will go away as soon as that thing starts pumping water out of the ground. All the animal life, everything you see here will leave. That only exists because we have a sanctuary here. We live in a bowl, just like the Indians who used to protect this land. So everyone please think from their hearts and think what's right.

Voice Ahear it at 6:06:08

Thank you, sir. Come on down, sir.

Voice H2hear it at 6:06:15

My name is David Engel. E-N-G-E-L. I moved here in the year 2000. Wade Liske was our sheriff then. There's an undersheriff here. His name was Bill Weldon, and he became a friend of mine. Very wonderful guy. And I asked him, why don't you run for sheriff? He's like, I'm not a politician. Okay, now I can see why. But a few years back, there was this guy named Rick Marshall, and he was running for sheriff, and someone kept putting up signs, anybody but Rick. Well, I just, I'm not making threats because I wouldn't waste my time doing something like that, but I know if this data center goes through, if you ever run for office again. It's going to be anybody but data center Ron, anybody but data center Deborah. It's up to you, your choice. But that's all I came down here to tell you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:07:27

Thank you, sir. Come on down, ma'am.

Voice Xhear it at 6:07:34

It's almost good evening, Commissioners.

Voice Xhear it at 6:07:38

Cherie Cabral with the Western States Council.

Voice I2hear it at 6:07:40

So, I first of

Voice Ahear it at 6:07:44

Can you spell it?

Voice I2hear it at 6:07:44

-A-B-R-A-L, I'd like you to vote no on item seven, no on item fifteen and yes on item twenty two. They're the number

Voice Ahear it at 6:07:54

eight. It's number eight, please. It's the first.

Voice I2hear it at 6:07:57

Eight. 8, 15, and 22. So I would like to say, first of all, that it's unfortunate that bad information that's being spread and proliferated by algorithms that exist predominantly within Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and YouTube are kind of dominating the information dialogue. And I appreciate an earlier caller who said, let's deal with facts. Let's deal with peer-reviewed literature. So let's deal with facts. Let's deal with. deal with peer-reviewed literature. Cruz's 2026 provides an expansive review of the technical mechanics associated with various cooling mechanisms. Watten et al. 2026 looked at the cost of energy to the public in areas where data centers are concentrated from 2015 and 2025 and found no correlation. SENGA et al 2026 flexible run hours that provide and use renewable peak energy saves two to three percent on energy bills. Lei et al provides a comprehensive review of literature around heat island effects and Kotmi et al 2026 focused on arid environments in the nexus between power and water use. along with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, which published their reviews around power, water, and costs in 2025. Dr. David Saylor from ASU is currently working on heat island effects. That is the statistical peer-reviewed literature out of academic institutions, scientific institutions that actually talk about the facts, not the information that is quote facts that comes from Instagram and YouTube and Facebook. And if data centers produce nothing of any benefit...

Voice Ahear it at 6:09:45

Thank you. Hey Sam, do you have anything on the anyone on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 6:09:52

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice J2hear it at 6:09:59

Hi, this is Mark Dalton, D-A-L-T-O-N. I appreciate you allowing me to speak. I appreciate you allowing me to speak one more time and I just wanted we all know about the water and the noise and everything everybody's gone on about this ad nauseum one point that I wanted to just hit on is the at the meeting that we had on July 25th the fire chief made a point stating that He didn't have the manpower nor the resources if these were built, these data centers, he did not have the manpower or the resources if there were a fire or a biohazard response out there, he could not handle it. So I'm worried about that. what that would would do to this community so again you've you've heard all of the statements from from everybody again please vote no ban these please thank you very much for your time take care

Voice Bhear it at 6:11:14

Thank you. Go ahead, Linda, please.

Voice I2hear it at 6:11:18

Excuse me. Linda Clark, C-L-A-R-K.

Voice Xhear it at 6:11:23

Ron, I have a little bit of a concern, you

Voice Xhear it at 6:11:26

and Deborah, as usual. Okay, you're saying that you've talked to people in our state and they've told you that this is a done deal.

Voice Ahear it at 6:11:37

Oh no, nope.

Voice Ahear it at 6:11:39

Just on the Clark line to the mountain. That is what I was told.

Voice Xhear it at 6:11:42

That's what we're gonna get,

Voice Xhear it at 6:11:43

we like it or not.

Voice Ahear it at 6:11:44

That's what they told me.

Voice Xhear it at 6:11:45

We know our president wants it, and we know our state governor wants it. So what I want to know is if you guys know that, why aren't you fighting for us? Deborah, you've made several trips gallivant up to the north part of the state, and why haven't you pushed for our community? We have no water. We have a poor community. We have.

Voice I2hear it at 6:12:11

Not a lot of money here or jobs and for these people to come in here and tell us that we're going to get all this stuff

Voice Xhear it at 6:12:18

BS and we know that so we've already gone through the solar farms telling us all that stuff how many people do you know that worked for the solar farm that had money brought money here and made money for this community I don't know one person so tell me how these people are going to do that for us from what I understand the storage they're not going to need a lot of people there it's storage so how many people do they need are they going to all make money

Voice I2hear it at 6:12:44

money for sitting there looking at whatever they're looking at no that's not going to happen so if you guys are promoting our community and want the best for us then maybe that's not going to happen because you're leaving but why haven't you been trying to promote our our county and tell people what our issues are here instead of saying oh we need a ban we need this we need that we need a ban we don't need anything else that's what you need to do that's your

Voice Xhear it at 6:13:11

It's your job. You don't need to wait for a vote. Just vote and say no, and we're going to promote a ban which Ian put up.

Voice Ahear it at 6:13:24

Oh, yeah. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please? Oh, hi.

Voice Ghear it at 6:13:29

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ahear it at 6:13:35

Oh, yeah, sure.

Voice K2hear it at 6:13:37

Hi. Good afternoon, Commissioner and everybody out there. My name is Christy Burkle, B as in boy, U-R-K-E-L. I've spoken before on these issues. You've heard a lot today about the aquifer, so I'm not going to speak on that. I am going to speak on the noise, though. I live all the way down by the dry lake bed. I can hear the racetrack on any given day. I lived across the street from an industrial place that... had fans going 24-7 and they're very loud and those are nowhere near the size of what these things will be generating as far as noise. Our valley is a bowl. We will hear echoes and I can tell you firsthand because I've spoken about this before on what this does to your health and mental stability. Having to deal with all of these issues is a serious thing. Our property values will decline. I've been all over this country at this point talking to people. I've listened to these ones that are nowhere near the scale that they're trying to build out here and they are loud and they can be heard for miles, not just one or two, five to ten miles away. There will be no one safe in this valley that will not be able to hear the noise coming from these. and the light pollution. I love the night sky. My family has lived out here since the 90s. I love it out here. It's a small community. People are friendly. The skies are gorgeous. We'll lose that. We'll lose everything that makes prompt prompt. Now the people that are saying that we're an angry mob. Yes, we're angry. We're not a mob. And as far as the people that I've seen both online and here that are speaking for it, other than I believe his name is Mr. Grubel, they all have a financial gain. For the people that are staying silent, who want it, why are you staying silent? Speak up. We all are. Thank you.

Voice G2hear it at 6:15:31

Thank you. Come on down, please.

Voice I2hear it at 6:15:44

My name is Terry Jo Hook, H-O-O-K, a 23-year citizen of Pahrump, Nevada, District 4. Today I'm here to speak to your consciences, because this is no longer just a vote to ban data centers. This has become a spiritual matter of absolute justice. When leaders look to community and see a target of exploitation rather than of people to protect, God takes it personally. This situation perfectly mirrors the story of Naboth's vineyard in 1st Kings 21. You ought to look it up. A powerful ruler wanted to change a peaceful neighbor's inheritance into an industrial plot for his own desires. He used official board letters, fast-track local decrees, and political collusion to make the taking look legal on paper. But God does not look at paperwork. He looks at the heart. Have you ever wondered how God... response to systemic injustice have you considered the price that is most certainly will be paid for a handful of selfish desires God does not sleep through corrupt meetings he tracks every vote and he violently opposes leaders who abuse their authority to strip innocent neighbors of their peace and survival when the prophet Elijah confronted the corrupt leadership he didn't bring engineered reports he brought the Word of the Living God God, you looked them in the eye and declared God's holy wrath, that God, your word, God, the word of God stands clear in the story because if you say no to the data center, you have essentially sold yourself to do evil in the eyes of the Lord. And like King Ahab, disaster will come upon you and your descendants and it will cut them off. Even Jezebel, the mastermind who thought she could manipulate local laws to steal. from our neighbor was devoured by dogs. That is how God deals with injustice. The wealth gained over oppression turns to ash. Scriptures show that God is fiercely protective of the vulnerable, but he is also merciful to leaders who turn away from evil before it's too late. When you have been warned, do not ignore the spiritual laws of harvest and consequences for

Voice H2hear it at 6:17:47

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, we got anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 6:17:51

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice K2hear it at 6:17:59

Good evening. Now, is Heather Marches, M-A-R-Q-U-E-D, District 2 11-year prompt resident. But to me, what's more important than the amount of time I've been here in Pahrump is the fact that I intend to stay here for the foreseeable future. I intend to finish raising my children here. I may have grandchildren here. I want to ask you to consider what happens if the promises being made today don't match the reality 10, 20, or 30 years later.

Voice L2hear it at 6:18:09

Here in Pahrump is the fact that I intend to stay here for the foreseeable future. I intend to finish raising my children here. I may have grandchildren here. I want to ask you to consider what happens if the promises being made today don't match the reality 10, 20, or 30 years from now. We're being asked to accept an enormous long-term industrial development based solely on projections. projected tax revenue, projected jobs, projected water consumption, projected noise levels, and projected environmental impacts. But who bears the risk if those projections are wrong? The developer advertises an $18.4 billion investment and significant tax revenue, yet only about 380 permanent jobs that full build out. And those economic benefits depend on the project actually reaching the build out being presented today. What guarantees does my county have that those promised benefits will actually materialize? More importantly, what protections do residents have if the promised impacts turn out to be greater than projected? Technology changes incredibly quickly. The equipment, power density, cooling requirements and electrical demands of data centers 10 or 20 years from now may look very different from what's being proposed today. What prevents this facility from evolving into something substantially more resource intensive? intensive without residents getting another meaningful say. And we shouldn't look only at the property itself. What additional substations, transmission lines, generation capacity, roads, or other infrastructure will eventually be required to support this project at full build out? What are the cumulative impacts of all of that development? Because once we commit hundreds of acres of this valley to this use and build the infrastructure around it, undoing that decision becomes impossible. Economic development is important, but the burden shouldn't be on Pahrump residents to prove afterwards that a project harms their community. The burden should be on the developer to prove beforehand that it won't and to be legally accountable for the promises it's making today.

Voice Ahear it at 6:20:02

Thank you. Demands Thank you very much.

Voice Ahear it at 6:20:04

you. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:20:05

you. Go ahead, please, ma'am.

Voice M2hear it at 6:20:07

Tina Dixon, D-I-C-K-S-O-N, and Gannon Dorf. Good luck spelling that one. So we moved here in 2012 and in 2013 came before the county or city, town, town, for a bumper boat business. The bumper boat business was designed with a swimming pool basically around swimming pool. 15 feet diameter, 4 foot deep. We were asked interesting questions like where are you going to get water and we resolved that with the water company with a meter on a fire hydrant. Then we were asked what happens if your pond burst into flames. And I said, well, look up because it must be the second coming. We were told that we would be a drain on the emergency resources, fire and police. We had five bumper boats, so it's a five minute ride. If people are really slow coming up the steps, getting in the boat, getting out the boat, going down the steps, it's a five minute ride. I don't know what could happen in five minutes that would require police, ambulance, fire, flight for life. I don't know. But anywho, my bumper boat business never got off the ground. we weren't asking for anything except permission to open a business. Would have given kids something to do, would have given adults something to do. But we were told that we were going to use too much water and demand too many resources.

Voice Ahear it at 6:22:13

Thank you, Tanya.

Voice Ahear it at 6:22:15

Come on down, Marianne.

Voice Bhear it at 6:22:26

I was waiting for that little puppy to bite the sheriff. Where to begin? The speaker previous to this lovely woman had a list of what ifs. Very early on in my experience coming before the Board of Commissioners was the question, what if?

Voice M2hear it at 6:22:50

And it was answered by, well, anything can happen. And that has just stuck with me for four or five years now. Anything can happen, the what ifs. This basin, 162, services Pahrump citizens. The data center is adjacent to a neighborhood, my neighborhood, Mountain Falls. Therefore, it's in the town of Pahrump.

Voice N2hear it at 6:23:17

So therefore the vote should be of the citizens of the town of Pahrump. Furthermore, there needs to be a moratorium on any current or future data center projects until after the citizens have voted. I support a ban, but in the event that you say otherwise and you discuss the ordinance, I suggest that there be a data center ordinance committee created. With appropriate related experiences to review and bring appropriate suggestions to the BOCC, not the developer and not the spokesperson. And I suggest that if all three fail for some reason, that there be the motion, and I have addressed this with Commissioner Strickland at the district water board meeting, that you. at least extend the current moratorium because it's due to expire. So there's three things to consider, combining them all together just, you know, you just all over the place, we find ourselves all over the place with our comments, but at the end of the day, we've spoken and hopefully you've heard. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:24:34

Thank you. Come on down front, please

Voice M2hear it at 6:24:39

Good evening. My name is Craig Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N, and I came here tonight to play you a little clip from our neighbors in Michigan.

Voice Dhear it at 6:24:52

558, 59, 60.

Voice M2hear it at 6:24:56

This sound is from their data center. I came here to Pahrump. Searching for peace. I found it here. I'd like to keep it here. Pahrump needs to grow. It needs to develop, but Pahrump is not a place for industry. We have no infrastructure to support industrial development. We do not have the resources, particularly water. We do not have an access interrupt by rail.

Voice O2hear it at 6:25:28

We only have Highway 160 and Highway 372 to enter and exit the town. I think it's telling that so many people here today have used their time to speak to remind you, the people of the board, what the principles of American government are and that you stand to represent us and we repeatedly have asked you to represent us. Please do better.

Voice Ahear it at 6:25:57

Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 6:26:00

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice P2hear it at 6:26:08

This is Mark Russo, R-U-S-S-O. I think we can pretty much surmise by today's meeting and past meetings that pretty much everybody in front is against these data centers. Nobody wants them and no should be no. I don't know what part they don't understand about no, but nobody wants them. I'm for the ban and that's where we stand on that. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:26:33

Thank you. Come on down and prompt, please.

Voice M2hear it at 6:26:39

Julia Mizzal, I am against the data centers. I want to ground this board in its own recent history. On June 2, 2026, this commission sat in this very chambers and heard the overwhelming outcry of the citizens of Nye County. On that day, you took a decisive, ambiguous action. You explicitly removed the first and second motions.

Voice O2hear it at 6:27:04

wiped the slate completely clean and came forward with a unified new motion. The motion passed by this board explicitly stated that you were placing a moratorium in all of Nye County for all data centers. To ensure there was absolutely no ambiguity, you had the county manager read the formal definition of a data center directly into the official record. So my question to this commission is, what has changed? By introducing item number 22, a vote to schedule a bill that creates a pathway to allow data centers, you are actively undermining the absolute freeze you promised us on June 2nd. Nobody, and I repeat, nobody is vested in this as of yet. No developers.

Voice M2hear it at 6:27:58

That is very crucial to this. We want you to stand by the words of your own June 2nd motion. Make the ban permanent and reject item 22 entirely. Protect the future of Nye County. NRS 7, excuse me, NRS 278.020. It is your primary oath. To the health, safety, and welfare of the residents of Nye County. I urge this board to uphold the promise of that clean slate. Please ban data centers. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:28:40

sorry. Come on up. Come on up. I forgot. Susie.

Voice M2hear it at 6:28:46

Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z.

Voice O2hear it at 6:28:49

Thank you. First of all, I wanted to point out that by combining these three issues together, rather than the citizens having a total of nine minutes to give their comments to you, it has now been reduced to three minutes because it's all bundled in

Voice O2hear it at 6:29:08

Two minutes. Oh, didn't hear that.

Voice M2hear it at 6:29:13

So you just took away our right to speak by what you did, and I'm sorry for that, and I wish you hadn't done that. My firm opinion is no on number eight, regardless. Number 15 should have been separate due to the fact that you probably won't find any money to do it. So it probably will not happen. That's my suspicion. If you do ban, I doubt that there will be an uprising of people in favor of data centers to the extent that you're seeing those of us who say no. So just, you know, you might want to give it a try. We are not.

Voice N2hear it at 6:30:06

all of Nye County. This is a big county and it seems repeatedly that Pahrump specifically gets chosen and selected for all of these negative projects that are harmful in a basin with no water. The county is large. There's a lot of Nye County beyond Beatty and Amargosa. I just drove to Goldfield two weeks ago. I saw hundreds of miles of open space, and they're all on the power link. So it's a fantasy that it has to be here. And I am really unhappy that you guys haven't done more to protect us. Thank you.

Voice Ehear it at 6:30:51

Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 6:30:54

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice P2hear it at 6:31:00

I'm in Lewis, L-E-W-I-S. I'm really uplifted and optimistic about all the amazing neighbors we have that are not only incredibly well educated, but eloquent. There's nothing I can say they haven't already said except this. We're going to kill the rural lifestyle if we bring in these data centers. We'll probably kill all of Pahrump. Please vote against it. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:31:26

Thank you. Come on up, Anthony.

Voice O2hear it at 6:31:29

Anthony Greco, GRECO, commission district for 28 years. I'm going to use real intelligence. Scott Lewis, can you put out a fire in that building if it was only half of it? Okay. So just ban it and just get it over with. Round Mountain wants it, send it there. The people that are trying to build this could take their water rights with them.

Voice Ahear it at 6:32:00

Thank you Sam anybody on the phone, please

Voice Ghear it at 6:32:04

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Q2hear it at 6:32:11

Hello, my name is Jade Vanderbeek, V-A-N-D-E-R-B-E-E-K. I'm president 25 years and I'm asking for a total ban. I don't want this pushed off for a vote so they have more time to continue organizing, buying up our real estate, whatever else evil data center billionaires do. At this point there's not a single argument for this data center that we haven't been able to challenge. It's not totally disproved with science, with evidence, truly. My favorite so far was the lower property taxes. They have map. Can you hear me okay?

Voice Ahear it at 6:32:48

I'm sorry, go ahead.

Voice Q2hear it at 6:32:51

Thank you. These have massive demands for utilities. They require major infrastructure upgrades. The cost of upgrading these systems completely offsets all the benefits they promise. If we were to spend, for example, 50 million upfront upgrading water, sewer for the data center, it would take decades of additional tax revenue to offset our investment. We've raised concerns about water power, infrastructure, pollution, light pollution, EMF, harmonic, property values, public health, utility costs. And, you know, these jobs will even go to prompt residents. We've questioned whether these temporary jobs and hypothetical tax benefits are worth the long-term burden to prompt. If these studies we're sharing are false, why won't they straight up say that? Why won't they say, no, that's not true. There's no potential harm associated with these data centers. Better yet, put it in writing. Will they guarantee that in writing? Meanwhile, these people from outside prompt keep showing up and telling us how wonderful this is for our community. city while they're the ones who will financially benefit the only families in Pahrump who are supporting it are those directly connected to it but what bothers me the most with the people proposing this project is they can't even answer basic questions about what they're asking us to live with like water usage we've been giving different numbers and different explanations three times how do you propose a massive multi-billion multi-billion dollar industrial project and you can't even answer and answer basic questions like yearly water

Voice Ahear it at 6:34:14

you very much, ma'am. Thank you. Come on down, sir.

Voice P2hear it at 6:34:20

William Lovgren, L-O-V-E-G-R-E-N. Item eight, I support. Item 15, I have questions because item 15, if you're going to have a special election, what are you guys going to do to stop this? uh suppose a data center here and while you have the election which will probably happen sometime next year that's for item 15. number 22 i'm speaking in opposition to 22 right now because the problem is is that you have multiple things going on here one your fire chief here has a ladder company of 75 feet your buildings are 75 feet Guess what? Ain't getting up there on that building. Ain't happening. If he puts a duct gun up on top of there and sprays the water, he can probably put it out if there's a fire. But in regards to getting someone off the roof or if there's a thing, he's not going to be able to get up there with his ladder. And he said he's got three ladders that are all 75 feet. So you have an issue there. The problem that we have here is a lot of people have spoken. said that they don't want this data center okay I've been I'm in district 5 I've been here since my family's been here since 2000 and the thing is is I want to make sure that I don't want to hear that thing and I don't want to see that big monstrosities thing I've worked for IT I was a teamster Okay, I drove. I know what the union's about. But the thing is, is when I come up here and I retired up here, I wanted peace and quiet and I wanted to be away from the city, from the nightlife and stuff out there and Vegas and everywhere else. I came from a small town that turned into incorporation and then went to a city. I know how it works. The problem is, is that with what we have going on here, we don't want the data centers. Thank

Voice Ahear it at 6:36:22

you, sir. Come on up, sir. You already? Oh, I guess you're

Voice O2hear it at 6:36:29

already. Indian Salazar. I just got one thing.

Voice O2hear it at 6:36:31

That's it. Hold on. Wait.

Voice O2hear it at 6:36:32

Just hold on, Ron.

Voice Ahear it at 6:36:33

- I'll get in trouble. I'll get in trouble. Tell me when we break. When we break. Sam, we got anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 6:36:44

Yes, chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice P2hear it at 6:36:51

Hi, my name is Troy Hicks, H-I-C-K-S. I'm the Chief Executive Officer of an artificial intelligence firm. I use data centers every day, every hour of the day, and the idea of putting one in the desert in Pahrump is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Please do not do this. There are much better ways. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:37:19

Thank you. Come on down the front, please.

Voice M2hear it at 6:37:24

Hello, my name is Teresa Reddle, or EDL. I just want to say that I am in total agreement with everything people have said in opposition of data centers. I assumed wrongly that we were going to get an amount for that the cost of a special election today at this meeting. That did not happen. What I what I propose is you all vote to ban data centers outright today. A vote on it. I can't sleep. Everybody I know is absolutely.

Voice Ghear it at 6:38:07

Rantic. Suppose is you all vote to ban data centers outright today. A vote on it. I can't sleep. Everybody I know is absolutely frantic. We are all losing our minds. Okay. It's been really rough.

Voice R2hear it at 6:38:19

on everybody here. You guys can end this today by voting to ban and that's all I have to say. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:38:33

Thank you. Anybody on the phone, Sam, please.

Voice Ghear it at 6:38:36

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice S2hear it at 6:38:43

Name is Matt Sadler, S-A-D-L-E-R. Yeah, so three items right now on the data centers. And, you know, our comment is now reduced by a factor of four. So I expect you commissioners to be four times as awesome as I know you can be right now. Start off doing that with a vote in favor of the ban on item number eight. With the modification, obviously, that we want the band to cover anything on and around Basin 162. As far as the other two items, let those suckers die, and then let us move on to the next battleground when they want to move these data centers elsewhere in Nye County. Thank you very much. Have a great rest of your meeting.

Voice Ahear it at 6:39:28

Thanks. Come on down and prompt, please.

Voice T2hear it at 6:39:34

Good evening, Chelsea Fisher, F-I-S-C-H-E-R, speaking as an individual. Where to start? First of all, as a taxpayer of this county, I don't want to fund a special election for something that I already know I oppose and it sounds like most of our town does. While I respect some of the comments and sentiment that it should be left to the voters, we also elect you guys in to vote for us on your decisions. It might not be popular when you have to vote against something. It might affect your relationships, including business relationships, if you go against something that your friends and peers in the community support. But your job as county commissioners is to represent all of us. We're all residents here. When we moved here, we thought we were moving away from big tech and the same people that lied to you from this three-letter agencies about trusting the science with Mrs. Fauci. The science is only good depending on who's the one researching it. If you guys aren't aware, I know I've sent this out, but unfortunately because I posted factual science during COVID, I'm still banned on Facebook. Imagine that, and how did that science turn out for everybody? We keep hearing that they don't use that much water and everybody thinks that we're stupid if they didn't use that much water, why isn't Clark County approving it to go down there? Why does it have to be right in the center of town? Because somebody's benefiting from the land. I respect people that want to sell their land, I think we should have free enterprise, but when it's going to be that close and could be harmful to residents, that's a problem. That's where your rights end. Your rights can't infringe on everybody else. That's not freedom. Coming from Portland, of all places, you guys are making a big mistake to welcome big tech here. And I thought we were all against that. I thought we're all united against these communists that are literally trying to kill us off and lie to you about the vaccines. But yet here we are welcoming them in our town. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 6:41:36

Thanks. Come on down to prompt, please.

Voice R2hear it at 6:41:45

Hi, I'm Nicole Ryan, R-Y-A-N. I just think you should ban the data centers. I think the special election for number 15 is just absurd. But if you want to waste the money, I think we're all. We're all in on it. We will all vote for it not to be here. Our aquifer is precious, just like our children are precious, just like our lives are precious. Do you not care about your own self? I mean, seriously, you're drinking the same water all of us are drinking, taking showers in, all of that good stuff that we love to do here.

Voice U2hear it at 6:42:16

And you guys are trying to ruin it for what? Profit? Gain? Let me tell you, history, if you prove this, will not favor any of you at all. You will all go down as the villains as we are looking at you now. Even a third time around. Here we are. Oh, hey, you guys want a data center? Let's do it again. Next, I'm going to get a text message that you guys are going to give us a free morgue or a brand new one. new morgue i'm getting text messages for a hospital i mean come on you guys i know you think the proponents are stupid but right now we elected you so maybe we are stupid if you allow this to go forward because that's where i'm at i am disgusted that this is the third time you guys are it seems like you want this for what reason i don't know but it's disgusting and again History is not going to favor none of you if you do this to our community. In fact, we will blast you everywhere as the example of what you will become if you decide to let this

Voice Dhear it at 6:43:17

happen. Another threat? Sam, we got anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 6:43:23

Yes, Chair the caller.

Voice Dhear it at 6:43:24

If you guys want

Voice Ghear it at 6:43:25

please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice R2hear it at 6:43:31

Well, my name is

Voice Xhear it at 6:43:31

Ms. Kenya Martin, M-A-R-T-I-N. I'm a big no on the data center, and I want to ask, would you go to a doctor who couldn't answer basic questions about the procedure they were about to perform on you if they kept changing their answers every time you asked a question? Of course not. If you couldn't answer basic questions about your job, you'd be fired. So why should we accept that standard for a multi-billion dollar industrial project they're asking us?

Voice R2hear it at 6:43:57

an entire community to live with for decades they can't guarantee us zero risk that's the bottom line that should be the answer right there when residents start demanding answers instead of being transparent we got canceled meetings pre-recorded presentation misinformation changing numbers and information that residents have had to fight to obtain I have firsthand experience with some of the members of the developers family they are

Voice V2hear it at 6:44:24

They don't know what they're talking about. They can't get clear information and they are incredibly difficult to work with. And they've chosen secrecy, and that's where they lost me. You cannot force an enormous industrial development onto a community and then act surprised on the people who actually live here demand evidence that it won't negatively affect their water, health, homes, utility bills, environment, and quality of life. The data center is not consensual. Sorry, we do not consent to this. This is not. I don't even it is disgusting that we do have members of our community selling out the rest of us to make some money so I hope the board will please protect this community that I love I've lived here lived here my whole life and I love the people here and I love this place so I ask that we are protected and that it's a big no thank you

Voice Bhear it at 6:45:16

Thank you. Come on down.

Voice Ghear it at 6:45:22

Good evening, Kay LaPointe, last name L-A-P-O-I-N-T-E, Commissioner Ron, I'm going to turn this around on you. So what if you're driving from Las Vegas and you see all those solar fields that you're saying are going to come here? I kind of believe you. All of a sudden you get to the Nye County line and you don't see a high scale.

Voice W2hear it at 6:45:46

data center and you see open skies and you see beautiful mountains and you don't see any solar fields. What can that do for our tourism? What can that do for our families? That's what we need. We have it now. Don't let it slip away.

Voice Ahear it at 6:46:02

Thanks, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please.

Voice Ghear it at 6:46:04

Yes, sure. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice S2hear it at 6:46:10

Hello, Commissioners. Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. Is my tone and volume okay?

Voice Bhear it at 6:46:18

Yes, sir. Go ahead.

Voice S2hear it at 6:46:21

Oh, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out when it comes to data centers, homeless, or scriptures, which one is the hardest for you to look at, Chair? But anyhow, I think if we're going to have a special session, we might as well go ahead and amend it and maybe we could put it on the ballot to move that seat from Tony Pollock down to Pahrump and it saves us $2.4 million in reoccurring costs. You know, if we're really looking to solve the problem, let's get there. Anyhow, the other thing I wanted to bring up also, just in case you had any... notions or you want to solicit any other commissioners or the DA to infringe on my First Amendment, I do want to recognize that, you know, deprivation of rights under the color of law and you couple it with kidnapping, the legal course is death. So y'all need to check yourself. You're walking a very fine line. Thank you

Voice Ahear it at 6:47:21

Another threat? Come on down, ma'am. Did you already speak? No? Okay.

Voice R2hear it at 6:47:29

Lisa Hemby, H-E-M-B-Y. I believe the proposal of a special election was actually a ploy to make the people think the question about banning data centers is in our hands. In reality, though, it would allow time for the advanced technology campus project to stealthily continue with their plans over the next few months. What comes to mind is a magician who is able to captivate and misdirect the audience while performing.

Voice U2hear it at 6:47:53

performing his tricks. The current moratorium on data centers has only stopped new data center applications from being accepted. It does not altogether stop the Mance project from making progress, which is the reason for the overwhelming public outcry against data centers in the first place. Why else would hundreds of people show up to these meetings to express our outrage against these industrial monstrosities? We've made our wishes known. Why call a special election that will take time and money when you are in the position now to fulfill the wishes of the people who have already decided the issue? What the people of Nye County need is for our county commissioners to represent us by protecting our wonderful rural town. Say no to data centers. Support a permanent total ban on data centers.

Voice R2hear it at 6:48:46

I also concur with Mr. Sadler. Let the other issues die, number 15 and 22. No amount of promised revenue, the Mance project, or any other data centers could ever generate would be worth the detrimental impact and risks associated with them. Hypothetically speaking, let's just say a data center was to pay millions of dollars in taxes. Where does the money go? Does it not go to the state?

Voice U2hear it at 6:49:12

Who's to say that any of the revenues would directly benefit Nye County or Pahrump? Is it not the governor and the state legislator that makes the decisions on where to allocate state tax revenues? Even if Nye County were to get some of the tax revenues trickled down to us, our state officials can abate those taxes down the road if they please.

Voice Ahear it at 6:49:31

Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 6:49:34

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ahear it at 6:49:42

Ordinary M-E-R-R-Y. I want to start this off with an apology. Some months ago I called out Ian Bain because I didn't think he was paying attention during the meetings. I was wrong. He's definitely paying attention and he's listening to the people and I think that's abundantly important. Mr. Jabbour, good job on standing up and throwing it back to the people. But we don't have to have an election if you guys do what you're supposed to do. You live here. You drink the water. Everything the other lady said there. Just remember, every time we make a deal with somebody, how good has it worked out for the person getting made the deal with? The Indians were promised their land. It was taken from them. Every time somebody cuts a deal with government or big business.

Voice X2hear it at 6:50:34

It's always in the benefit of the big business or the government. At the end of the day, these guys will sell the property. Somebody else will come in and go, no, we're not doing that. I can understand the crack mentality. We have $53 million in this county and they're promising $107 million more. But how? That hasn't been determined. Nobody knows what the property is going to be worth. Into the family that bought the land in hopes of this. I'm sorry 900 acres. It's still awesome property. Maybe you could donate it to the county for a second fairground. Thank you

Voice Bhear it at 6:51:14

Thank you. Come on down, sir. Russ Meads, MEAGS. Trump resident, a little over 32 years, District 5. And I actually agree with almost everybody here. Water, major issue. Noise, major issue. Development in general, major issues. Where I disagree is I think that maybe there was some misunderstanding on June 2nd. On June 2nd, a moratorium was asked to be put on. And while staff was to put together an ordinance, which they said they thought they could get done within 90 days, and they did. That's pretty rare that they're able to do something like that. A few other things that were said during that time.

Voice Ahear it at 6:52:10

We don't know enough about these to be able to make a decision right now. We need to go visit them. We need to go research it. We need to go find out what is real and what is not real. And I got to say, I've read through a lot of the backup for all three items. We do have a number for the special election. It was provided in the backup. If it was red, a little over $140,000 for that. I appreciate it. That was quick to be able to come up with that information. I don't think we have $140,000 extra. But one of the things I really wanted to push forward. All of these things are in this ordinance that have been presented. It's on there. You can pull it up, read it.

Voice Y2hear it at 6:52:52

Protection of water. Quality, quantity, noise, traffic, all of it. In DEP regulations, third-party engineering, all by contract in that thing. One last thing. On Saturday, we decided to do a quick poll in general. In District 1, 105 supporters. District 2, 138 supporters. District 3, 162. District 4, 179. District 5, 265. 537 others.

Voice Ahear it at 6:53:24

Thanks. Thank you, sir.

Voice Ahear it at 6:53:25

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ghear it at 6:53:27

Yes, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice V2hear it at 6:53:35

Melissa Blundo, B-L-U-N-D-O. And while I support responsible economic development in Pahrump, I absolutely do not support bringing a massive data center into our community. My concerns aren't about being anti-growth or anti-technology. They're about whether this type and scale of development is right for Pahrump. We've heard a lot about water and closed-loop cooling, but water is only one concern. A project of this magnitude brings enormous electrical demands, substations and transmission infrastructure, noise, backup generators, environmental impacts, and legitimate questions about nearby property values and our quality of life. I also have a very serious concern about security. My cousin retired as a colonel from the United States Air Force after 33 and a half years of service. and worked at the highest levels of military cybersecurity holding a top secret plus level of clearance. When I asked his opinion about this, he flat out said, I would not want that kind of target in my backyard. Given his experience, that's an opinion I take very seriously. Corrupt is also worth protecting for what it already is. People choose to live here because we're not Las Vegas. We value our open spaces, dark skies, mountain views, and rural character. I understand the promises of jobs and tax revenue, but once hundreds of acres are transformed and massive infrastructure is built, we don't get to easily reverse that decision if the consequences outweigh those promises. For these reasons, I oppose the proposed data center and ask you to vote no on all three items.

Voice Dhear it at 6:55:10

Thank you. Next one, Parup, go on down.

Voice Y2hear it at 6:55:17

John Swango, SWANGO, District 5, live on Mance Road about two miles where this is going to be. This isn't so much about it. Everybody knows where I stand on this. I don't know if all of you people over here and down here saw what happened right at 6 o'clock. All of the people that supposedly want jobs and support this. got up and left at the same time if that's not disrespectful to you guys i don't know what is as a former 30-year uaw member that's disgusting and i watched a guy earlier today waving his hands we're going to spend 300 bucks at lunch it's all bullshit because look what just happened look they and then one guy mean mug somebody back there like a real tough guy When he was walking out, they all got up and left at the same time at 6 o'clock, probably because they're not getting paid anymore. How in the world can

Voice Y2hear it at 6:56:10

not take that seriously and not be disrespected by that? Because the rest of us are. Vote no on the data center.

Voice Bhear it at 6:56:22

Sam, do you have anybody on the phone please?

Voice Bhear it at 6:56:25

Come on down, Diane. Oh yes, I will.

Voice Z2hear it at 6:56:31

Wow, I think my blood pressure's up. Anyways, boy, I feel for you guys, but you know what?

Voice Bhear it at 6:56:41

Can you spell

Voice Z2hear it at 6:56:42

yeah, Diane Sautter,

Voice Z2hear it at 6:56:44

-A-U-T-E-R. I had to think for a second. Anyways. I don't want it to go to special election and I'll tell you why I have no confidence In the voting process here, this Nye County, yeah, Corey, yeah, is corrupt. The voting, the elections have been corrupt. I've been a victim of it. Other people have been a victim of it. We still have corruption in the election cycle and I don't have confidence in it. I say you guys need to vote today. No on the data center.

Voice Ahear it at 6:57:20

Thank you. Come on down and prompt please The charity speak, did she already speak? I'm sorry ma

Voice Ahear it at 6:57:29

'am you already

Voice T2hear it at 6:57:30

No, can't talk no more?

Voice T2hear it at 6:57:33

did? Well, I know. I spoke three times since I was here. Three different items. Okay.

Voice Ahear it at 6:57:39

Mr. Pittman come on down. I know.

Voice Bhear it at 6:57:44

Stephen Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N. My vote would be no on having data centers here. I live

Voice Ahear it at 6:57:39

Mr. Pittman, come on down. I know.

Voice Dhear it at 6:57:44

Steven Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N. My vote would be no on having data centers here. I live here for a variety of reasons. This is not Las Vegas. If I need something from Las Vegas, I can go to Las Vegas, but I don't have to get a lot of it on me. Then I can come home. We have what we need here. We don't need this. Brown Santa Claus came to my house today and dropped off parcels. We don't need data centers, please.

Voice Ahear it at 6:58:22

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ahear it at 6:58:25

Come on down, Dan.

Voice A3hear it at 6:58:29

Dan Pinault, P-I-N-E-A-U. I am a resident of Nye County for 28 years. I am asking that we vote no on the data center. The water is very important to us. I had friends that had to drill wells deeper, two of them. The environmental is extremely dangerous, and if we did have a fire, I don't know how long it would take to put it out. Electrical fires are extremely, they burn very hot, and they take a long time to put out. Put out. Please vote no. Thank you so much.

Voice Bhear it at 6:58:57

Thank you. Come on down, Leah.

Voice B3hear it at 6:59:03

Good afternoon. Leah Aldridge, ALD, R-I-D-G-E. I'm strongly opposed to the data centers. You guys already know that. I have to walk around every day with one of these in my pocket. It's called a rescue inhaler. Okay. A lot of you know I'm just an old retired rock and roll. Guitar player, okay? And I did USO tours and I came back from Kosovo, Kuwait and Iraq. I was exposed to chemicals there. They didn't tell us about if these data centers go in, the particulates just from the diesel generators along are going to make my life a lot more difficult to breathe. So for that reason, please no on that. Also, I have a friend here who had to dig her well from 186 feet to... to 300 feet deeper last year because the water table's sinking, okay? I hold my breath that I don't have to dig my well deeper. I'm on a well too, okay? So no to data centers. Thank you guys for sticking in here with us today. I really appreciate you. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 7:00:08

And do we have anybody on the phone please? Closing public comment.

Voice Ahear it at 7:00:13

let's take a break. Ten minutes.

Voice Ahear it at 7:00:34

I need a drink. All right, let's do it.

Voice Ahear it at 7:01:10

Linda Clark, mine was a diaper.

Voice Ahear it at 7:01:38

Okay, let's go.

Voice Xhear it at 7:01:39

Do you guys want to do this?

Voice Ahear it at 7:01:43

All right, commissioners, public comment is over. Let's chit-chat about this item and tell me what the heck you want to do. Ian, I mean Commissioner Biggs.

Voice Ehear it at 7:01:52

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm going to make this really brief. I'm really going to try to make it brief, but there are things I want to say. Obviously when the motion is made... It will be amended. My motion will be amended to restrict the ban to the 162 water basin per water basin. Uh one thing came up I do, I just want to address this, um someone did mention there was one place where taxes went down when data centres went in. I saw eyes light up on otherwise

Voice Ehear it at 7:02:20

depressing looking faces. Um but I wanna address that because it's sort of interesting. It's Louden County, Virginia. It went down six percent. Um, Loudoun County has 250 data centers of 53 million square feet. Now, I know we're a big county, but I don't know how big that is, but this is an 800,000 square foot facility. So I'll let you kind of do the comparative analysis and tell me to hold your breath for the 6% sales tax that's six cents on the dollar. So there's that. I do want to make two quick points about the ban. I did I asked the Data Center two questions. I would like to read the brief answers. This is Chat GPT. How much would Nye County government get from 800,000 square foot typical data center? A lot of information the data center seemed to know about it. For a typically 800,000 square foot abated data center, Nye County government itself, not the school district, state, towns or other overlapping taxing entities, would likely receive on the order of 500,000 to 1.5 million per year. That's the answer. Maybe it's wrong, I don't know. I asked a second question, how many jobs does it provide, not counting construction, CHP-GPT said, a sensible midpoint for public discussion is about 25 it knows I'm a commissioner, so it's, you know, briefing me. A sensible midpoint for public discussion is about 25 non-degree, non-engineering jobs, assuming it's a modern, highly blah blah blah blah blah. So anyone up here voting against this ban, I mean the concern is And we're in the risk business here. We're not in the. take a risk business we're in the preventing risk business so anyone here voting against the ban and later we find out it's 500,000 revenue that's going to have that's going to weigh pretty heavily so I'm not I'm not threatening anyone I'm just saying I wouldn't want to have that alone it is a risk and the thing about is if we can find out it's just like the communism argument show me where it works well it doesn't really work anywhere it's always common in these countries but doesn't seem to work anywhere so if there's some wonderful data center come back in six months new board you can undo this ban it's very easy so it's just it's a risk one of the speakers discussed the draft bill and he knows he wasn't stopped so I'm gonna make a quick in the interest of being viewpoint content neutral I'm gonna make a quick point about the staffs draft It allows the company to go bankrupt and transfer to another, just like the other bill. The staff draft allows a company to go bankrupt and transfer a data center to another. So you could have a finder's fee under the staff draft and that company could go bankrupt. Another company could come in and they could go to bankruptcy court and say, we won't pay the development agreement. And anyone admitted to any bar anywhere who's ever done any kind of. law practice with bankruptcy please correct me because bankruptcy judge probably doesn't care about your opinion either because they do what they want um so just a couple quick points we are in the risk business this is a risk decision as far as being on the Clark County side you know it's much easier these people in Clark County Michael Naft and fighting Michael now for six years these people love data centers why would they want to do it an hour southwest or whatever it is from Las Vegas. Why don't you do an hour away from Las Vegas? It doesn't make any sense. Oh, we'll put it right over the border. It just doesn't make any sense. They can pass it like that in Clark County. They have no problems. They all pass it constantly. So why don't they just put it where all the facilities are way over there in Clark County? It doesn't make sense. Why they want it here is so they can bully the government because we don't have the resources. You go to Clark County, you've got attorney after attorney after law schools. They have attorneys everywhere, people with law degrees everywhere in government. Here there's two, and there's one in the room right now, the age is left. We are under matched for the idea that a finder comes and gets the agreement through, sells it off to a venture capital firm or whatever, a solar finance company. They are basically a law firm that comes in with hundreds of lawyers and they go, how are we going to bully Nye County today? Count the ways. My first job was at Harvard and I knew a lot of Harvard lawyers. I worked for three Harvard lawyers. And these people, the ones I worked for or worked under in politics, would eat alive some of these lawyers around here. Mitt Romney was one of them by the way. Total signers. I have 3,849 signers here that signed a petition to ban data centers. And again the point I made last time, 3,539 people total voted for any commissioner a couple months ago. All votes for commissioner in Nye County were 3,539 people. 3,849 people have signed this petition. And that's a lot of people. I have been in this business a long time. I've been in this since 1998. I've done a lot of polling. I used to have a computer dial behind PredictRace is pretty easily with 150 respondents. I used to do this to people who thought that they were more important than they were. I include myself in this. If I go into Smith's and I ask the first ten people, I say, do you know who Ian Bain is? Maybe two, maybe, if I'm lucky. But if I go into Smith's and I'll do this with anybody up here, I'll walk into Smith's, we'll record it, and I'll ask ten people, do you want a data center here? I will bet you nine people do not want a data center and one person is confused about the question. And I've been doing this a long, long time. Now, I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, let's find out. But I just don't see it being popular. So I will not make a motion right now, but that's what I have to say about this, and I will yield back. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Voice Ahear it at 7:08:08

Thank you. I was...

Voice Dhear it at 7:08:10

I have a question.

Voice Ahear it at 7:08:11

Go ahead, sir.

Voice Dhear it at 7:08:13

Question mainly for Commissioner Ben. On the Ben... What, you changed the something on that to make it only on Basin 162 or what?

Voice Ehear it at 7:08:24

Yeah I think you mentioned I change I want to remove 1713.015 which is the applicability section completely remove it and replace it with and this is what the motion will be this chapter will apply only to the Pahrump Water Basin 162. But I I mean I'll open to other things if that there's something else, but that's that's what I Would like to mention yes,

Voice Dhear it at 7:08:44

I just want to be clear on this so everyone knows what's really going on. I guess one of my comments was I eat out a lot because my wife is disabled and I eat at a bar. I don't drink, but I used to drink, so I'm used to sitting at bars, whatever that's worth. A few weeks ago I walked in and my favorite barmaid says to me, you're not going to do data centers, are you? So I mean I'm getting attacked from everybody. So that's just the comment I made and there's three or four servers in there that did the same thing. So everyone's on top of it. So anyone else?

Voice Bhear it at 7:09:30

Waiting to be acknowledged here.

Voice Ahear it at 7:09:31

I'm sorry, yes.

Voice Ahear it at 7:09:35

Too late for that.

Voice Bhear it at 7:09:36

Thank you very much. Thank you for your patience, everybody. The last time this was before us, Commissioner Bain had an item on the agenda. And if you recall, there were only four of us commissioners present. I was in Tonopah. And if you do the math, potentially if a vote was called for, it could have been two to two. And you know what that would have meant. So I'm not a magician, but I knew what was going to happen. And I want to give an option, an extension of the ban. To possibly go to ballot question. To spend your money, excuse me, excuse me. To spend your money, no. To spend our money, no. Because at the time, the county clerk was not clear on how much it would cost us if we went to special election. And unfortunately, we were too late. In the game, in this arena of data centers, to make it in time with a committee for pros and a committee for cons, to make it to the general election, and that's where it pushed us to January, if the consideration was to be for the ballot question. It's over $100,000. for the ballot question, which I am not in favor of spending any more of the taxpayers' dollars unnecessarily. What I said before, I'll say it again, that this was such a sophisticated project and we may be risking to be technology, technology, technology. Lost. Who cares? If the government wants to step up because we're hearing that we have to keep in pace, we have to pace, keep in pace with another foreign country in regards to AI and data centers. Well, let the government step up. And we need to start talks with the Nevada test site, for example. Basin, don't get me in trouble.

Voice Bhear it at 7:12:21

Basin 225, Basin 226, 227A. Amargosa's in Basin 230. Water knows no boundaries. They all flow into Basin 162, so I appreciate Commissioner Bain's preface with what we're hoping he'll make the motion for of only in Basin 162. Where are the contaminants going to go? This property, this private property. With their water rights, it's already approved for housing development, how much water will they consume if they come into fruition with this housing facility versus this data center? A data center that's being proposed. It's not been approved. So, I want to protect your voice. I want to protect your vote. I said at the last meeting that I'm very decisive. Yes, I could have voted, absolutely. But I could have risked losing the vote and I didn't want to do that. I'm speaking for myself. I can only speak for myself. And when the vote is taken, the proof is in the pudding. When Commissioner Bain mentions risk, I mentioned putting and Tammy dropped her purse. He mentions risk. You know my background, hospitality, gaming. We take a risk every day, 24-7 in the gaming world. It's a young person's game. And then as you grow with the business and get promoted with the business, you continuously take risks. I am not willing to sacrifice your or my welfare in regards to a data center here in Pahrump, Basin 162. I yield back to you, Chair.

Voice Ahear it at 7:14:44

Thank you, sir. I have a couple of comments. So this is from AI, some data center somewhere. There's currently fifteen hundred, more than fifteen hundred data centers uh under construction across the U. S. Four thousand to forty five hundred new ones uh are already operating nationwide. I know that our president wants m more of these, and I know that our governor wants more of these. So if regarding and this is just information, doesn't have anything to do with how I'm gonna vote. But in Quincy, Washington, um they had some dad they were in real trouble. So and when I was younger, my family we went there. Anyway. So since they've got this data center, their property taxes have dropped 72% and they have new police departments, new fire departments, new schools, new community centers. So there can be benefits. I am not a fan of, you already know where I stand on a lot of this.

Voice Ehear it at 7:15:57

But I am saying this. There is someone who wants the data. The United States owns 38% of the available data right now. You know who wants the data? They are giving free, basically free, construction to anybody that wants to go there and no taxes, China. So we need to be damn careful.

Voice Ahear it at 7:16:21

I would much rather have our data here somewhere in the U.S. where it can at least be monitored because the data is coming somewhere. It's every time we use these stupid things. That's what's happening. So that's my thought on that. Koenig? Anybody?

Voice Xhear it at 7:16:43

I just want to recognize that we have a data center going out at Sacrabas Flats. It's about 25 miles out of Beattie. It's not impacting anything. I do understand the water portion of this particular project that's out there. The project that we'll be looking at, I would take it, throughout Nye County. I would hope you wouldn't close your mind to all things Nye County. Um, there's just not high use anymore. All that technology has changed, and I would hope you'd realize that. There's been a lot of comments that unfortunately you can't, um, disprove what you don't have already built. But we do have 12 data centers in Las Vegas currently, 12. And they didn't affect Las Vegas in any way whatsoever as far as heat. Disprove what you don't have already built. But we do have 12 data centres in Las Vegas currently. Twelve. And they didn't affect Las Vegas in any way whatsoever, as far as heat, electricity, water. So those are the facts. And you're using all of that right now. So I just I just want to point out there's a lot of ways to skin a cat and if we're talking about the ban itself I think that we need to keep in mind we already have a moratorium in place and it's been in place and there was a there was a statement that was made about that it was going to go away and I did check with staff and it keeps in place until we have set our standards for an ordinance. should this board choose to, and so that more times in place until then. And in the embodiment of that would be the time to make the decisions of what would be expected from a data centre, anywhere within Nye County, because that is one of the three items that we have on that we just talked about. And so we need to think about what that looks like county-wide. And what we can do to make sure that the county has some structural income that we can count on rather than counting on just taxes that you are paying.

Voice Ahear it at 7:18:55

That we don't want to raise.

Voice Xhear it at 7:18:56

That I'd love to I'd love to see I'd love to see something different than that. But that the moratorium's there till we get done with this. particular um ordinance. The elections could be done should be done because it shouldn't be left to us. I'm not sure I've I have total faith in the clerk's ability to get that set up and ready so that it can be handed off and would like to ask the clerk how prepared she is for that.

Voice C3hear it at 7:19:32

I put it in the backup. Sorry, Corey forgot my account clerk. It is in the backup. There are hard dates that are NRS driven, which is why it won't happen until January. My team is ready. I trained them. They've got this, so they will help the new clerk if she comes in because we won't be able to actually hold the election until, looks like Tuesday, January 26. And that is saying because we do have to have the committees with the pros and the cons. We have publishing, we have ordering, we have all that stuff on top of the fact we're still running an election. I still have a general election coming up shortly. So, yes, they will be prepared. If you guys so direct it, you have to tell me what the question's going to be, and we can go from there. But again, it will be January 26th, a special election. That's five days early voting, one election day, mailing out to all of only Pahrump is what I was told. Only the Pahrump precincts. But we can be ready.

Voice Ehear it at 7:20:36

Mr. Chairman, make a procedural point. It's just procedural. Could we, I'd like to motion to divide the question into three different, just because it's three items, if that's acceptable for everyone. It just be easier that

Voice Xhear it at 7:20:47

agree with that absolutely if I can continue but we talked about all of it so I thought we could talk about all of it and then of course look for look for those motions to come forward when you when you did your research you came up with a figure of what that would cost correct and

Voice C3hear it at 7:21:05

Yes, yes ma'am.

Voice Xhear it at 7:21:06

that's in our backup

Voice C3hear it at 7:21:08

Senior backup it is right at $113,000. Again, just for the prompt area,

Voice C3hear it at 7:21:15

I mean total, but it could go either way just to let you guys know because postage is going up the first of the year.

Voice C3hear it at 7:21:24

this could go up a little bit. You know, that's our biggest thing. You know, staffing might come down a little bit depending on the need if we can lower it down just a little bit. That will be the estimated cost.

Voice Bhear it at 7:21:36

And if the Xerox machines breaks in the treasurer's office, it's going to be even more money.

Voice C3hear it at 7:21:46

Although our Xerox machine broke and we just jumped right over to admin and kept going. So we're good.

Voice Xhear it at 7:21:53

are. You really are. Thank you, Clerk.

Voice Xhear it at 7:21:56

In regards to the costs we would need to identify when we get to making a motion on that identify where the cost would be where the money would come from and I would suggest latch funds and I would ask our comptroller what that looks like please

Voice D3hear it at 7:22:13

So latch funds, we have an unallocated amount of about a million dollars.

Voice Xhear it at 7:22:20

So I know that I know that the most important thing that we need to do sitting as a board, we sat here and went through a great deal of time last time on this very this very ordinance, great deal of time. And in that we made a decision not to have a second and it was decided that we should do an election which was a great idea. I still feel that. I still feel the people need to make that determination. Had if we could get to a point as a board that we can agree on. That and it's setting a time and date so when we do get done with the election.

Voice Bhear it at 7:23:02

Excuse me, Chair,

Voice Bhear it at 7:23:05

her please continue, Commissioner.

Voice Xhear it at 7:23:09

Thank you, Commissioner. And so setting a date and time and actually having the guardrails up on a data center, should we move forward with data centers anywhere in Nye County? I want to remind you that you only have 2% of the taxable land in Nye County. Everything else is federally owned, 98%. Somewhere we got to make money, guys. So let's put some data centers somewhere. Come up with a place that'll work like it's working in Sacramento. Sacramento's Flats and you've never been there. So you know you're driving right

Voice Ahear it at 7:23:39

It's a solar

Voice Xhear it at 7:23:40

It's a solar combined and gathering data project. So that would be my suggestion and my take on all of this comment because we are not just talking about you wanted to just today talk about Basin 162 in Pahrump, but this is all of everything. Thank you chair.

Voice E3hear it at 7:24:06

Go ahead. Uh Connick, you got anything? Do you have anything to add? I think

Voice Ehear it at 7:24:15

I can I can make a motion on eight if you motion divide the question into just eight and fifteen and twenty two I believe those are the numbers. Uh prior to doing that just just quickly, you know, just looking at the news here from a couple days ago. uh lake mead has plunged to a new record low um no i'm just saying you said hey there's no problem in las vegas i mean i don't know if they're correlated maybe not but they're running out of water out there so we don't really know um i like to motion to pass item eight as written but

Voice Ehear it at 7:24:51

i would like to amend 17-13-015, to replace everything in 17-13-015 with this chapter will apply only to the Pahrump Water Basin 162.

Voice Bhear it at 7:25:12

She'll call her seconds.

Voice E3hear it at 7:25:14

We have a motion on the floor and a second. I'm going to call for the vote.

Voice Xhear it at 7:25:25

Thank you for changing that. Commissioner Bain, I appreciate you changing that limitation on applications. That was the kicker right there from the last time we met on this. Thank you.

Voice E3hear it at 7:25:36

All right, let's try to quickly do 15.

Voice Dhear it at 7:25:40

I'd like to let 15 die personally, but I'd like to make a motion on 22. Because now that we've passed the ban here, they're going to want to put something somewhere and we need an ordinance to control that. So I'd like to set the date of September 15th, 2026 to year 22.

Voice Ehear it at 7:26:00

Could I just say something prior to that? I have no problems with it moving forward. I would really like this to be in January for the new board. I just think having two outgoing people in a lame duck session with months left. I'm not going to fight people on it. I already said I wouldn't. I'm a person of my word, but I really, really like a reconsideration just to let the new board make

Voice E3hear it at 7:26:20

the action item? We have a motion on the floor and a second. All those in favor?

Voice Ghear it at 7:26:25

Oh, it's fine.

Voice E3hear it at 7:26:25

Okay. Did you have something for the board? Okay.

Voice Ghear it at 7:26:28

I have something,

Voice Ghear it at 7:26:30

It was recommended that if,

Voice E3hear it at 7:26:34

we can do

Voice Ghear it at 7:26:36

Most likely the same week if that works out for everybody. Uh it would be the week of uh September fifteenth. We have regular B_O_C_C_ every fifteenth, Tuesday the fifteenth. Um we could hear this s uh special meeting on Wednesday the sixteenth, Monday the fourteenth, depending on

Voice E3hear it at 7:26:53

I'm fine I'm fine with the sixteenth.

Voice E3hear it at 7:26:55

Are you guys good with that? Wait what?

Voice C3hear it at 7:26:57

You are not on the record.

Voice Ghear it at 7:27:00

You're not on the record.

Voice C3hear it at 7:27:01

Sorry, nobody in the clerk's office will be able to do the rest of that week. After that we're all open.

Voice D3hear it at 7:27:12

What about the prior week?

Voice Ghear it at 7:27:20

The prior week we do have the first meeting. No, I'm sorry, scratch that.

Voice E3hear it at 7:27:28

Tuesday the whatever. What is it?

Voice Ghear it at 7:27:32

Yeah, Tuesday the 8th, Wednesday the 9th.

Voice E3hear it at 7:27:35

You guys good with the 8th?

Voice Xhear it at 7:27:37

Well, we can't do the 9th, it's our P_C_

Voice C3hear it at 7:27:39

Is this that?

Voice Ahear it at 7:27:40

But what about the 14th, the day before our regular meeting?

Voice Xhear it at 7:27:44

That would be okay.

Voice Ghear it at 7:27:46

Come Monday the 14th.

Voice Xhear it at 7:27:47

Does that work for all of you?

Voice Dhear it at 7:27:49

wait, wait, wait. My fourteenth is fine.

Voice E3hear it at 7:27:56

We need to amend or what

Voice Xhear it at 7:27:58

we need to restate.

Voice E3hear it at 7:27:58

all right let's restate that option

Voice Dhear it at 7:28:02

Make a motion that on 22 we set the date and time of September 14th, 2026, 10 o'clock in this chamber.

Voice E3hear it at 7:28:13

Motion second all those in favor

Voice Ehear it at 7:28:21

I'm not in favour,

Voice Ehear it at 7:28:22

so I I you ask all in favour. I'm not in favour.

Voice E3hear it at 7:28:25

of the meeting?

Voice Ehear it at 7:28:26

You said all in favour and I'm not in favour.

Voice E3hear it at 7:28:28

Okay, well I said call for the

Voice C3hear it at 7:28:30

Here we go.

Voice E3hear it at 7:28:31

Four to one uh fourteenth of September. Four to one the fourteenth of September. Be

Voice Dhear it at 7:28:41

Set set a date to hear the ordinance.

Voice E3hear it at 7:28:44

The ordinance date.

Voice E3hear it at 7:28:49

I don't think you understand like all the world. I know. Okay, fifteen is it are we

Voice Ehear it at 7:28:55

Do you wanna just I explain so everyone's not coming up or not?

Voice E3hear it at 7:28:58

I don't care. Okay.

Voice E3hear it at 7:29:00

We need to figure out are we letting fifteen die have

Voice Xhear it at 7:29:04

I or thought we were going

Voice Xhear it at 7:29:05

to do the election.

Voice Xhear it at 7:29:08

We're doing the election so that we can

Voice Xhear it at 7:29:11

get people to vote.

Voice Bhear it at 7:29:11

I it's my It's with all due respect. Please, folks, I see you. Thank you. It's my item. I'll request you can open number four. Reopen number four, please, and then I will have it removed.

Voice E3hear it at 7:29:31

Okay, manager, we need to open number four, please.

Voice Ahear it at 7:29:39

let it die without a motion.

Voice E3hear it at 7:29:42

Okay. Do we have a motion on item 15? No, it's dead.

Voice E3hear it at 7:29:51

Moving on. No.

Voice Bhear it at 7:29:57

late. The the chair declared it dead.

Voice Xhear it at 7:30:00

Uh it's dead?

Voice E3hear it at 7:30:01

It's dead. I don't know.

Voice C3hear it at 7:30:05

I really don't know.

Voice Dhear it at 7:30:08

happened? Look, what happened was the ban has been approved for peremptive.

Voice Ehear it at 7:30:15

You got a ban, everybody. Everybody's looking for the date. Oh, everybody's got the long face here.

Voice Dhear it at 7:30:26

And we have a date to hear the ordinance because the ban is only for here, so if they want to build the data center somewhere else, we need an ordinance so we can control what they want to do.

Voice Ehear it at 7:30:37

Right, the ban is for Pahrump and 162 Basin, so if they want to do it beyond Round Mountain or wherever, Gabs or wherever, then that's what this other one is scheduled for on whatever date.

Voice Dhear it at 7:30:49

September will hear the will. The ordinance is in here, you can look at it, but

Voice Dhear it at 7:30:54

that's when we'll hear it to decide if we want to approve it or not.

Voice E3hear it at 7:30:58

please. 16, please.

Voice Ahear it at 7:31:02

Item 16, for possible action, discussion and deliberation to A, appoint one member to the Round Mountain Town Board.

Voice Dhear it at 7:31:15

Yeah, 15 is dead.

Voice Ahear it at 7:31:21

Okay. They say they can't hear, but I can't hear myself.

Voice E3hear it at 7:31:26

All right, we need to be quiet and finish here. We're trying to still work and we still have staff.

Voice Xhear it at 7:31:31

take a break just five minutes so the room can

Voice C3hear it at 7:31:36

We're taking five minutes.

Voice Ahear it at 7:31:53

All right folks, we're resuming the meeting.

Voice E3hear it at 7:31:56

Wait a minute. I did you not pull number ten? Ten, please.

Voice Ahear it at 7:32:05

Excuse me folks.

Voice E3hear it at 7:32:07

All right. Ten ten item ten. We got to try to get done. We got staff that are really really being so so patient.

Voice Ahear it at 8:21:37

Say item 23 for possible action discussion and deliberation to approve the 2026 airport master plan and airport layout plan for Beatty Airport

Voice Bhear it at 8:21:48

Thank you for that. Do we have any public comment? Come on up, Tim.

Voice Chear it at 8:21:56

Seems like I studied the last half just as much as I studied the first. Tim Bohannon, BOHA, NNON.

Voice Dhear it at 8:22:03

I thought this master plan was massive, and I'm sure it was a lot of pleasure to read through, but as you're going through, a couple things that stood out to me is the hearing from the people. I think that was 2.4. So in the process of hearing from the people and making sure that that's covered. It hits me from two responses, one making sure from a local economy standpoint that's taken care of, but also looking at forward looking if you can as much as possible. With that, those were the two things that stopped me. Again, this was massive, a long read if you wanted to fall asleep. It did a pretty good job of it last night. But this is necessary and it's probably necessary in other locations as well. And we don't really have an airport here in Pahrump. We do, but not with this size or magnitude from that standpoint. Keep that in consideration in the future. But yeah, I didn't see anything that was a showstopper on this.

Voice Ahear it at 8:23:22

Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Ehear it at 8:23:23

No chair, but staff had intended for a brief presentation to be provided even though it was not written into the agenda item.

Voice Fhear it at 8:23:35

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Voice Ghear it at 8:23:35

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Voice Fhear it at 8:23:37

let not you

Voice Ghear it at 8:23:37

it. All right.

Voice Chear it at 8:23:38

Brief summary? Brief summary? Sheet we got one. What?

Voice Chear it at 8:23:43

You want one? Sure.

Voice Fhear it at 8:23:46

Oh no, come up here. Oh.

Voice Hhear it at 8:23:53

Maddie Pungalloway, P-O-O-N-G-A-L-L-O-W-A-Y with Atkins Realis. The biggest takeaway for this project is that it will make sure that any future development that is shown on this document is eligible for federal funding in the future.

Voice Ahear it at 8:24:06

Perfect. Thank you. Well,

Voice Ahear it at 8:24:08

thank you. Did we have a motion?

Voice Fhear it at 8:24:10

Sure. Is, well, public comment is closed?

Voice Chear it at 8:24:14

Well, the chair motion to approve the 2026 airport master plan and airport layout plan for the baby airport

Voice Ihear it at 8:24:23

Motion to second all those in favor

Voice Ihear it at 8:24:25

aye that carries five zero thank you 24 please

Voice Ahear it at 8:24:30

I am 24 general public comment, up to three minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.

Voice Bhear it at 8:24:52

Oh no, you're not.

Voice Dhear it at 8:24:57

would like to say,

Voice Chear it at 8:24:57

Annette Fuentes, F-U-E-N-T-E-S. I just was wondering where we're at with the Amargosa Conservation Area slash Monument Corridor. Where are you guys at with that as far as when they came to you with support? I haven't heard anything. We've had one town hall meeting.

Voice Ehear it at 8:25:21

And then Carolyn went to the public lands committee meeting. We were in limbo here. We need to know what's going on, and there's several of us that aren't in support of it.

Voice Dhear it at 8:25:36

Are you done?

Voice Dhear it at 8:25:37

I apologize. I forgot to call you back.

Voice Ehear it at 8:25:39

I know, you always

Voice Ehear it at 8:25:40

tell knew me that.

Voice Dhear it at 8:25:40

I looked into it, but yeah, sorry. Sam, anybody else, please?

Voice Fhear it at 8:25:47

Mr. Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ghear it at 8:25:54

That's for Savage, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

Voice Hhear it at 8:25:58

First of all, congratulations, you guys, for doing right by the people. Just wanted to say that. I know it's hard. I had to fall into one of that at the RPC, so I know it's very hard. But I want to know if we could put on the agenda something so we can have a discussion about the splash pad.

Voice Ghear it at 8:26:23

We would like to see the documents. We want to talk about it. We want to figure out maybe we need an advisory committee or add hot committee or just, you know, a tag along people. We need to do something because that's already up in almost $500,000. So that's a lot of money for a sales F. We need to do something. We really do. And I was wondering if we could do it on the agenda or if you guys have some other idea or something for me to delve into. I could do that too. Thanks.

Voice Dhear it at 8:26:57

Thanks. Come on down, please. It was on.

Voice Ehear it at 8:27:08

I shut myself off instead of telling you.

Voice Ihear it at 8:27:11

Angelina Jackson, J-A-C-K-S-O-N. A couple of things I'd like to address. During the planning board commission meeting, it was obvious that they were voting on issues regarding property zoning or rezoning or permits, and only one commissioner took it upon themselves to go to the property. To view it, you know, see it was regarding animal rescue to see if there was a, you know, heavy smell or anything like that. Nobody else did, but yet they were going to vote on something like that. I think it's required of every commissioner that's going to vote on anything regarding that, even, you know, this board, they go out and exact, you know, physically view the property that they're going to be voting on. It's going to impact somebody's life. Um, also with that is it doesn't seem like there's any communication between, you know, from between the boards themselves and that's, how can you guys take somebody's, you know, advice if you guys don't even pay attention to them or know what's going on. You guys should all have to attend each other's, you know, meetings at least for a good portion of it so you know what, you know, you guys can. are informed. Board members should not be making decisions on items that they are not informed about just because they feel, you know, somebody made a comment about discrimination and that they were going to, you know, possibly be sued. That's irresponsible. One other thing, and I know this is done and over with, but I just want to give you an example of what happens. Rhett Needs posted something online where there is a part of the video from the the waterboard meeting where Helene was giving me a necklace with the card as a gratitude because when we were here I didn't know who she was or anything All right, I just

Voice Ihear it at 8:29:15

no, this is just, this is just so you guys can, you know, be aware of what can happen

Voice Dhear it at 8:29:19

you. got you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Sam. You got

Voice Fhear it at 8:29:22

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Hhear it at 8:29:29

Hi, it's Joni Eastley in Tonopah. I have two comments. The first is 102 years ago when I was a county commissioner sitting in the audience there in Pahrump, the only time I ever saw an audience as big as the one I saw today was when we were either discussing prostitution or amending the animal ordinance. And my second comment is it is offensive to me to hear people criticize and call into question Kari Friedhoff's integrity and accuse her of messing around with elections. The only thing I have to say to that is that if she really had the power to do that, then why didn't she fix her own election?

Voice Ihear it at 8:30:17

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Voice Dhear it at 8:30:18

Thank you, Johnny. Go ahead, Susie.

Voice Ehear it at 8:30:21

Hi, Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z. First of all, I want to thank you as a citizen of this community for banning the data centers. I really appreciate that you listened to us, so thank you. Secondly,

Voice Jhear it at 8:30:42

One of the things that I mentioned and I've mentioned before is that we have a tendency to place a lot or attempt to place a lot of enterprises and business situations in Pahrump rather than elsewhere in the county where they might be more suited. And this seems to be an ongoing thing. And I know it's an effort, I believe, to gain some revenues for our county to be more healthy, but we have to take into consideration what's good for our town. I'm just wondering if there's some way for an ad hoc type committee to be created to listen to the citizens, since you recently have done a good job of that. and do some brainstorming about the types of enterprises that might be appropriate for our community that you as a board haven't figured out or thought of or hasn't been approached by by an outside source. And I think that interchange between that committee and this board might be a useful tool. And a helpful tool for those of us who live here to feel they have some more broad scale input to what we're going to do here or what we'd like to do. And maybe we won't find ourselves in so many of these high pressure situations with business endeavors that are not a good fit for us. So I'm just suggesting that maybe we open up some communication. Thank you.

Voice Dhear it at 8:32:25

Thank you Sam anybody on the phone, please

Voice Fhear it at 8:32:28

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Khear it at 8:32:35

Good evening, everybody. Gregory McMahon, MC, M-A-H-O-N, District 5 property owner. I just want to wholeheartedly thank.

Voice Dhear it at 8:32:44

All commissioners, Commissioner Bain, Commissioner Kona, Jabor, Strickland, Boscovich, for uniting and voting 5-0 to ban data centers in Pahrump and in Basin 162. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thousands in Pahrump are relieved and will sleep much better tonight. That's all. Good night, everybody.

Voice Khear it at 8:33:08

Thank you. Come on up, sir.

Voice Dhear it at 8:33:13

My name is Hart Fleischauer, F-L-E-I-S-C-H-H-A-U-E-R from District 2. I want to make two quick comments. One is Commissioner Bain, I think you're probably pretty tired and it's made things more complicated than they need to be. If there's the general fund and there's special income, that special income can't go into the general fund, it has to go into a special fund.

Voice Khear it at 8:33:39

When that special income is no longer coming in and hasn't been coming in for a while and never will come in again, then there's no reason for that special fund anymore. It's like throwing your empty bottle away because it's not going to get mixed in with the stuff that's on the sparkless bottle. If you look at it that way, it makes it a lot simpler. And I know you're tired, so I thought I'd try to give it a real simple explanation. The other thing is when I commented on banning the data centers. I simply said, hey, you guys got to get this over with. Someone make a vote to ban on the dating center, someone second it, you vote on it, and the other two things fall off the agenda. I'm glad you took my advice. Thank you.

Voice Lhear it at 8:34:19

Any more on the phone?

Voice Fhear it at 8:34:21

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 8:34:27

All Lemus L-E-M-U-S. I first of all wanted to say it's important when we address these different meetings and you're on a board, how you introduce yourself and your official capacity is very important. I know I got a little frustrated earlier on some things that happened at that public land committee meeting, which we have ordered the minutes and we're going to be doing our own internal investigation for our town. But I wanted to say real quick that I represent a few taxpayers in our valley. valley and a few of the capitalizing businesses that are associated with the Ponderosa Dairy has been one of my clients they've purchased a couple large pieces of property out that way and they make also a 30% revenue to almost all the money that comes into my county I've looked at the most recent economic development studies that have been done and they between their their 250 employees They've got taxes, they've got trucks, they've got a trucking company, they've got fuel, they've got fees, and then all of those residents are buying fuel and feed, and they're all adding to our community and generating a lot of revenue. Well, they've been recently kind of having a hard time and some pushback from different things that were associated with flies, with traffic stops from sheriffs, so on and so forth. I just don't want it to be too little too late. And we lose one of the number one most economical viable businesses for our valley. And these certain individuals on town board have pushed, have attacked, have pressed over onto their private property, have went and broken and entered into property during escrow when they were sold and in contract bought as is where is. So this national conservancy that's coming, it's going to tie in. into a lot of this other stuff as we unfold here and I just wanted to say I think it's important that we pay attention to our property rights our Fourth Amendment rights the Death Valley boundary that they'll be proposing will

Voice Ahear it at 8:36:30

Thank you, Paul. Come on up, sir.

Voice Khear it at 8:36:37

John Swango, SWNGO. First, thanks for doing the right thing on the data center.

Voice Dhear it at 8:36:42

I know this isn't necessarily your guys' deal, but this town's going to need your help with the tidal wave that's coming next with the three roundabouts that are proposed on 160. They are going to tie up traffic. They're going to kill a bunch of people. Instead of roundabouts, we could put small overpasses with on and off ramps to keep traffic flowing and put roundabouts where we need them. at like Gainberg and Homestead. That intersection is terrible. And like I said, I know this board isn't like totally in charge of that, but

Voice Dhear it at 8:37:16

I know you said earlier you talked to the governor and you've got friends all the way up.

Voice Dhear it at 8:37:21

We're going to have to have help with these roundabouts on 160. That's just the next big thing that's coming that's going to fill this room. So, but thank you again for what you did on the data center. Coincidentally, the roundabout at Gamebird I heard was supposed to start in June and never did. So I don't know what's up. Go ahead, sir.

Voice Mhear it at 8:37:48

Good evening, William Lovegren, L-O-V-E-G-R-E-N. I want to thank you guys for banning the data centers. I really appreciate that. I have one question in regards to that because you said you're going to push to the September for the item 22. I just want to make sure that when you guys do that, that in regards to the banning of the data centers, that 162 is also included in that. So that way there's no problem coming back or if something happens in regards to that. That's all I've got to say. Thank you for your help.

Voice Dhear it at 8:38:24

Thanks, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

Voice Fhear it at 8:38:29

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 8:38:35

Herman Lewis, L-E-W-A-S. I want to thank you commissioners, Bruce, Deborah Ron, John Koenig, thank you. I also want to thank you, Ian Bain, well done. I have a lot of confidence in you, I shared that with everybody and for the first time, maybe the only time, I wasn't wrong about everything. Thank you.

Voice Ahear it at 8:39:01

Take your go ahead, sir.

Voice Dhear it at 8:39:04

Hi, Tim Bohannon, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. Tough work today. Long day. Sorry it's taken so long. But something to keep in mind, what's next? So from a tax standpoint, we still have some work to do. So we have to address that.

Voice Bhear it at 8:39:26

As community, as BOCC, ERPC is going to need to address it and others. So keep that in mind.

Voice Khear it at 8:39:36

Thanks Sam. Anybody on the telly.

Voice Fhear it at 8:39:38

Yes, chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 8:39:45

Jeannie Wright, W-R-I-G-H-T, and I'm just going to reiterate what some of the others have said. I am so very thankful that you guys all saw what we wanted as citizens, longtime residents, and it's fine to do new things, but not in the place that is right next to homes. You know, I was affected with... with the solar back when they first started coming wanting to surround my property so I am not for those types of improvements around people's homes so we can definitely find better places for it and thank you all so much for doing the right thing really appreciate that it's been a long day and we really appreciate your time thank you and have a great night

Voice Bhear it at 8:40:36

Thank you. Come on up.

Voice Ihear it at 8:40:42

M-U-S-A-L-L. I just want to say, I know we give you guys hell, but you know what? At the end of the day, thank you guys very much. And I do have to say that it's very upsetting that we have citizens who are threatening people, and it really does. I mean, I know I get upset about things that you guys do, but threatening is not one of them, and I'm just very sorry that people do that. So anyway,

Voice Ihear it at 8:41:17

thank you. you guys very much.

Voice Ahear it at 8:41:21

Pam, anybody else, please?

Voice Fhear it at 8:41:22

Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Hhear it at 8:41:27

Yes, Amy Nelson, N-E-L-S-O-N. Thank you for the ban on solar. I'm just a little confused if it includes, if it, what did you say?

Voice Ahear it at 8:41:41

I'm sorry, Amy, it was data.

Voice Hhear it at 8:41:46

It's data if you know your English.

Voice Hhear it at 8:41:50

If there's a vowel before a consonant and a vowel after a consonant, it's a long sound. So the data centers, I was going to say, I hope that if that included the project that's in motion now, the Mance Project, and not just all others. That wasn't very clear. And don't forget that this is a community that has ranchers and grazing animals. So to put any kind of project, solar or data, anywhere near the outskirts of Pahrump would be reckless and really ruin some lives. And I was going to compliment you, but wow, you just are too much sometimes.

Voice Ahear it at 8:42:42

I'm too much for me.

Voice Hhear it at 8:42:45

You're too much for me.

Voice Ahear it at 8:42:46

I'm too much for me too. Thanks, Amy. Sam, please.

Voice Fhear it at 8:42:52

Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Ahear it at 8:42:56

You can always say no.

Voice Fhear it at 8:42:58

We have about five more callers.

Voice Mhear it at 8:42:59

My name is Matt Sabo, S-A-B. E-L-E-R. Keep it short and sweet. My good friend Amy Elson who just spoke, if you try the long vowel thing on the word Nevada you're going to get to New York. It's definitely a short vowel sound there so I'll have to have your back on that one Ron. Anyhow, thank you guys, your commissioners did a great job today. You actually followed the will of the people and I salute you. God bless you. I also want to make a point. I think the county is in really good shape with Xena there in the comptroller. Chair, I appreciate what you do. Thank you for staying in there, staying tough, and fighting for fiscal accountability here in our county. Thank you for the meeting tonight, commissioners. Have a great night.

Voice Nhear it at 8:43:37

Thank you. Okay, next please Sam.

Voice Fhear it at 8:43:40

The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

Voice Mhear it at 8:43:45

Yes, it's me. Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, GAR CIA. How's my town?

Voice Mhear it at 8:43:55

Well, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I do want to give you all some credit. I think it was a great practice overall. I do think we can get better when it comes to fraud, extortion and official oppression. And if you could stop that tap, I'd really appreciate it. But anyhow, if we can. focused on the Constitution you know I didn't make a threat earlier we have a right a constitutional duty to protect the citizens from government and when you operate outside of your constitutional duties there are no

Voice Ghear it at 8:44:15

on the constitution you know uh i didn't make a threat earlier we have a right a constitutional duty to protect the citizens from government and when you operate outside of your constitutional duties there are no immunity so uh y'all really need to get educated on that so since we've had such a great practice i think somebody should put a motion in and bring us up to five minutes

Voice Ohear it at 8:44:41

general comments for everybody and that way we can get a little better when it comes to the Constitution you know we can get down into it and realize that an ordinance a county rule doesn't supersede the Constitution it's the supreme law of the land So we need to get better at the First Amendment, the 14th Amendment, and the 5th Amendment. And the great thing we have in our favor, I'm telling you as a father, for original natural common rights, is the reversal of Chevron. And for y'all not to think

Voice Ahear it at 8:45:17

Thank on you, Michael.

Voice Ahear it at 8:45:19

Sam, do you have anybody else, please?

Voice Phear it at 8:45:22

No, they hung up.

Voice Ahear it at 8:45:23

Closed. All right, turn to the next one, whatever it is.

Voice Ahear it at 8:45:28

And 25 Commissioner-Manager comments. This item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction to staff for topics proposed for future board meetings, lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law.

Voice Ahear it at 8:45:46

open 26 as well.

Voice Bhear it at 8:45:47

What? No? Commissioner Jabbour. Thank you, Chair, and thank you, everybody, because I think I have like 15 minutes left for light, so I comply with what my mother asked me to do. So thank you again. Commissioner Strickland. Commissioner... Commissioner Koenig.

Voice Chear it at 8:46:16

There it is.

Voice Dhear it at 8:46:18

And I'll take Conan's tag.

Voice Dhear it at 8:46:19

Conan, guess what? I just calculated that there are 203 comments. Guess how many more minutes that would be?

Voice Ehear it at 8:46:28

Do you want to take About more minutes?

Voice Ehear it at 8:46:31

Exactly, so we could still be here.

Voice Ehear it at 8:46:34

you for reducing it to two minutes. I know that people did get upset, but we would not have, we would have gone into two days and some of our commissioners aren't available tomorrow. Right. It's important you realize that. Secondly, I'd like to ask staff to look at this natural conservation district for Amagosa.

Voice Dhear it at 8:46:53

as Miss Fuentes has talked about and Mr. Lemus has talked about. We've heard some rattles about it. I think there's something we need to know more. So I'd like some something to come to us on that please staff and that's it. Thank you.

Voice Ghear it at 8:47:08

Thank you. Commissioner?

Voice Fhear it at 8:47:09

It was a long day, I'll say that, and thank everybody for being here, especially staff. I guess, I don't know if Lurene is driving back or not, but I got to be up about 3.30 so I can get to the airport and get back to North Carolina so I can see my granddaughter and my youngest great grandson. So it's going to be a hard day tomorrow, but we accomplished a lot today, made people happy. That's what we get paid for, I guess.

Voice Ahear it at 8:47:51

have nothing. I'm going to close that. Do we have any managers or directors or anybody that wants to?

Voice Ahear it at 8:47:56

I just wanted to thank you guys for the parent big raise that I got at some point today.

Voice Bhear it at 8:48:01

Oh yeah, you're

Voice Ahear it at 8:48:02

was very happy I came to this meeting for that purpose.

Voice Fhear it at 8:48:06

Is Vino okay then?

Voice Ehear it at 8:48:14

That's okay. Yes, they do. A commissioner made a comment earlier about the telephone system and we've been having issues. I also wanted to identify that we pay per caller per minute and our usual bill is anywhere from $400 to $700 a month. In this past month it was $1,400. So the board really does want to consider. The financial impact and uh efficiency of this system I can bring an item back.

Voice Hhear it at 8:48:47

Something to look at for sure.

Voice Ihear it at 8:48:48

Bring it back. Right?

Voice Hhear it at 8:48:50

Okay, anybody else? Yep. Anybody, directors, managers, anybody? No? Stewie says we're done.