Public meetings / Planning Commission
November 14, 2012
152 turns, 152 with a named speaker, under 11 agenda items. The words and the names are the county clerk's.
1. Approval of Minutes:
Commissioner Hafen
motions to approve the minutes from October 10, 2012. Commissioner McCall seconds.
2. Approval of / Modifications to the Agenda: Approval of the Agenda after Considering
Commissioner Koenig
request to move item 8 in front of 7.
Commissioner Hafen
motions to approve as modified. Commissioner McCall seconds.
3. Correspondence and Announcements
Commissioner Koenig
welcomes in the newest Commissioner Bob King. Commissioner Terry Hand is out ill.
4. Public Comment (first) – This time is devoted to comments by the general public,
Commissioner Koenig
explains what the public comment section at the beginning of the meeting and the public comment specific to the agenda items are. Page 2 of 16 Public comment closed at 6:05 p.m.
5. Commission Reports:
Commissioner Koenig
was unavailable for the meeting.
Mr. Osborne
stated at the last meeting they met with NDOT and they gave a detailed estimate to build roundabouts at Blagg and Highway 372 and Pahrump Valley Blvd. and Hwy 372. NDOT will pay 50% of the total cost. The Blagg roundabout would be $800,000, and Nye County would be responsible for $400,000. The roundabout at Pahrump Valley Blvd. would be $1.2 million and Nye County would be responsible for $500,000. Total cost would be $2 million and Nye County would pay $1 million of that. The next meeting will be January 22 to discuss whether or not to recommend one or both of the projects. d. PRPD Master Plan Update Steering Committee – Gregory T. Hafen II There was nothing to report.
7. CU-12-0017: Conditional Use Permit (CUP) application to allow a Commercial Kennel
Commissioner Koenig
refers to the applicant. Robert Schmidt, applicant, withdraws application for a commercial kennel and apply for a residential kennel. He doesn’t believe he falls under a commercial kennel, he has 8 dogs that are show dogs and are mostly located at training facilities.
Commissioner Koenig
refers to staff. Page 3 of 16
Ms. Lee
states part of the code compliance investigation with this violation resulting in a meeting with the applicant, Charlie Watkins from the DA’s office and Code Compliance staff. The result of the meeting was that Mr. Watkins determined this does fall under the Nye County Code purview of a residential kennel.
Ms. Lee
refers to Mr. Watkins for more information.
Mr. Watkins
stated that without his files he can’t answer any of the questions, it has been quite a few months since the meeting.
Commissioner Parker
asks staff if complaints have been made against the applicant.
Ms. Lee
stated that there had been one complaint against the applicant which was submitted to Code Compliance and it was determined it was a commercial kennel.
Mr. Schmidt
stated that the complaint was from an employee he hired to do some renovating inside the kennel. The gentleman was terminated and he was the one that filed the complaint. His dogs don’t bark very much and aren’t all at his home.
Commissioner King
asks how many dogs he has.
Mr. Schmidt
stated he has 8 and has documentation on the dogs that are on the property.
Commissioner Hafen
stated he is reviewing the difference between a commercial and residential kennel and under his zoning he is allowed to have a residential kennel. The difference is the limit of 10 dogs. How many puppies do you normally have in a litter.
Mr. Schmidt
stated he hasn’t had a litter in 2 years, but normally there are between 5-7. He does planned breeding.
Commissioner Hafen
asks if he plans on still breeding.
Mr. Schmidt
stated that he doesn’t plan on breeding the dogs anymore. He plan is to take 1 – 2 dogs to the Westminster.
Commissioner Hafen
stated that part of the remodeling includes a whelping room, is that current or part of the remodeling that he is adding.
Mr. Schmidt
stated that is part of the remodeling.
Commissioner Hafen
asks if the point of the whelping room is to help in the breeding process.
Mr. Schmidt
stated that was the original plan but he has changed those plans.
Commissioner Hafen
stated if he doesn’t plan on having more than 10 dogs on the property he doesn’t qualify under the commercial kennel. Page 4 of 16
Mr. Watkins
stated that is correct.
Commissioner Koenig
reviewed the definition of a commercial kennel permit. He still doesn’t understand that the DA’s office had decided this was to be a commercial kennel.
Mr. Watkins
stated that if he made that determination he couldn’t tell you why without his files.
Mr. Schmidt
stated that at the meeting they laid out the future plans for the kennel at that time.
Commissioner King
asked how many dogs he had at the time of the meeting and has he had any more than 10.
Mr. Schmidt
stated he had 8 dogs and hasn’t had any more.
Commissioner Hafen
asked Mr. Schmidt if that included the litters.
Mr. Schmidt
stated that if he has anymore that he would have them with the trainers and they wouldn’t be on the property.
Commissioner Koenig
asks staff if Mr. Schmidt wants to pull the permit do they continue with the hearing or pull the item.
Mr. Osborne
stated that if the RPC believes that this is a residential kennel than no future action needs to be taken, because it is a permitted use.
Commissioner Hafen
stated that Mr. Schmidt needs to then go to animal control to get a residential kennel permit.
Mr. Watkins
stated that we need to find out the status of the Code Compliance violation case, without knowing what the extent of the case it complicates things.
Commissioner Koenig
stated that they will continue.
Commissioner Hafen
asks if Mr. Schmidt pulls his application that he can’t file again for another year?
Mr. Osborne
stated that if the application for a CUP is denied or withdrawn there is a time limit but he isn’t sure what it is.
Commissioner Parker
asks if he could continue this and in the meantime get a residential permit from animal control.
Commissioner Hafen
stated that he needs to resolve the code compliance violation first.
Commissioner Parker
stated that the code compliance violation can’t be resolved unless he gets a CUP and we won’t give him the CUP without resolving his code compliance. Page 5 of 16
Commissioner Koenig
stated we are going to continue with the public comment.
Commissioner Koenig
opens public comment at 6:58 pm Leah Watkins at one point was listed on the code compliance violation. It resulted because Nye County stated they didn’t have to have a permit for the existing 6 car garage. They added insulation, heating and cooling system for the dogs. Nye County says they need permits for the kennel, but then tells them they don’t need permits for the building because it was exiting before 1996. They are not a commercial kennel. Phyllis Hogadone, stated she is against the kennel. If one of the large dogs get loose it can kill the chickens and little dogs down the street. She has been past the property and their horses don’t have any shade or shelter if they treat their horses like that how will they treat their dogs. If one of their dogs gets loose and comes on her property it is dead. Ricardo Gonzalez lives with the applicants. They have the animals contained and will not leave the property. They are a residential kennel they don’t exceed more than 10 dogs. Henry Pfiester, lives half a block from the applicant. He is a trainer with PV obedience club. He has had the dogs in his obedience classes and they are very good dogs. He has no objection to the kennel. The dogs have never been out roaming the area. He never exceeds the 10 dogs. James Hogadone, lives in the neighborhood. The dogs do bark in the evening and he can’t leave his doors or windows open because of that. He has never seen the dogs out but there is always the possibility. What is going to stop them from changing their minds and why would they put in the facility to have puppies if they didn’t plan on using the facility.
Commissioner Koenig
refers to the applicant.
Mr. Schmidt
stated that his 5 acres is fully fenced and the areas he has the dogs is contained with a secure fence and a ¼ acre he put grass in for training the dogs. The dogs only weigh 74 lbs.
Commissioner Koenig
refers to the commissioners.
Commissioner Hafen
asks staff what the time limit is to withdraw.
Mr. Osborne
stated if they approve his withdrawal without prejudice there is no time limit. If it is denied there is a 6 month time limit.
Commissioner Hafen
asks the applicant if he still wants to withdraw without prejudice. Page 6 of 16
Commissioner King
recommends to table until next month so that they can get a report from code compliance as to why they want it as a commercial kennel. If there is more to the violation then they need to review it.
Commissioner Hafen
stated to Mr. Schmidt that if he withdraws without prejudice and Code Compliance finds that you do have to get a CUP then he will have to go through the process again and pay the application fees again.
Commissioner Hafen
asks Mr. Schmidt again if he still wants to withdraw without prejudice.
Commissioner Hafen
motions to withdraw without prejudice CU-12-0017.
8. CU-12-0018: Conditional Use Permit (CUP) application to allow a Commercial Kennel
Mr. Osborne
reviewed the staff report, RH-4.5 zone allows a Commercial Kennel with a CUP. There are 5 letters in opposition, they don’t want a large scale Commercial Kennel in the area, and that isn’t what is proposed. The applicant isn’t proposing having employees, no hours of operation and will not open to the public and won’t be selling dogs. It is more of a residential kennel, but they don’t quite meet that definition of residential kennel with 6-10 dogs strictly for pets. The applicant falls into the residential kennel. They have 12 dogs as pets but do shows and competitions from time to time. Staff recommends approval but subject to the special conditions in the staff report.
Commissioner Koenig
asks Mr. Watkins to pay attention as they move on because there will be questions directed to him.
Commissioner Hafen
asks if they breed dogs.
Mr. Osborne
stated they stated occasionally they do, but not on a regular basis. In the last year they had two puppies and they don’t intentionally breed.
Commissioner Koenig
stated that the definition of a Commercial Kennel says kept for commercial purposes. Page 7 of 16
Commissioner Koenig
refers to the applicant. Carmen Day, applicant, stated she and her husband are retired and they keep their dog numbers at 12 not 10. They breed occasionally. They have had a litter in March, previous to that was in 2007 and 2002 or 2003. They don’t keep the dogs outside 24-7 they have them in the house.
Commissioner Hafen
asks if the litter was for profit or for personal enjoyment.
Ms. Day
stated they did sell them but can’t really say it was a profit.
Commissioner McCall
asked if she talked with Public Works and if you understand our request for easements and future road improvements.
Ms. Day
stated no one mentioned anything about road improvement.
Commissioner McCall
stated that it was part of the external comments and asked if that isn’t something that Public Works is requesting.
Mr. Dahl
stated that it was sent to the Planning Department and Mr. Osborne was to make the determination if he wanted them in the Special Conditions of Approval and it doesn’t look like they are included.
Commissioner McCall
asked if the applicant has read and understood the proposed special conditions.
Ms. Day
doesn’t know what she means.
Commissioner McCall
stated it is provided to them by staff.
Ms. Day
stated if it is attached to the flyer they gave her.
Ms. Osborne
stated it was attached to the agenda and mailed to her.
Ms. Day
stated she guesses she understood it. There wasn’t anything she didn’t understand or didn’t agree with. The house is located at the end of the road and there isn’t anyone past her.
Commissioner Parker
asks what type of dogs she has.
Ms. Day
stated they are Salukis they run between 35 and 60 lbs. They also have a couple small dogs and one Scottish Deer Hound.
Commissioner Parker
asks if they plan on keeping them indoors at night.
Ms. Day
stated yes. Page 8 of 16
Commissioner McCall
stated that one of the letters of opposition stated they don’t want a kennel within 300ft. And when she looks at the map they are more like 850 ft from the subject property.
Ms. Day
stated they haven’t bought the house yet but they have met one of the neighbors and they hadn’t said anything that she knows of.
Mr. Osborne
states a CUP is an application to allow a Commercial Kennel in the area that isn’t allowed. It requires a public hearing process like this now.
Mr. Antilla
asks who he calls if there is a number he can call if the dogs are barking at 5 am.
Mr. Osborne
stated he should call Animal Control and if it was a condition of approval then the Planning department would enforce the conditions.
Mr. Antilla
asked who to call if it is a noise issue or an issue with the smell. Page 9 of 16
Commissioner Koenig
stated it is all for animal control. We wouldn’t be here if they had 10 dogs because 10 is allowed, however they have 12 so we are here to issue a CUP.
Commissioner Koenig
refers to the applicant.
Ms. Day
responds to comments stating she was unaware that she has so many neighbors against her. So it is up to the board if they want to issue the permit or not and she won’t protest the answer.
Commissioner Parker
asked if this isn’t going to be commercial in the sense you are selling dogs but just happen to have 2 extra dogs, will she have extra traffic on a daily or occasional basis coming to the house to purchase dogs you don’t have for sale.
Ms. Day
stated she can’t guarantee that she won’t have company, she can’t guarantee she won’t have anyone come and look at the dogs if she has a litter. But she doesn’t expect extra traffic daily.
Commissioner Koenig
asks if she considers herself a commercial kennel.
Commissioner King
asks staff that for a commercial kennel they can have any number of dogs. Ms. Day states she has 12 and could have a litter of puppies. There is nothing that will keep her from having 100 dogs. There is a gap between residential and commercial kennels where there should be a super residential kennel where you would allow a certain amount or number of any animals. For someone that does fall into the category of a full commercial kennel he wonders why there isn’t anything in between.
Mr. Osborne
agrees and thinks that there should be something to fill that part in the middle.
Commissioner King
asks if we could approve her for only 12 dogs.
Commissioner Parker
stated that that can be done, they had granted a larger amount and when she exceeded the number allowed she had her CUP withdrawn. The RPC can set limits as a special condition.
Commissioner Koenig
states to the DA’s office that the property qualifies for a residential kennel allowing 6 – 10 dogs to keep for personal pleasure, not for breeding purposes. It is his understanding because the permit is for a Commercial Kennel, we don’t have to grant a permit for a Residential Kennel because it is allowed. Would they have to grant a waiver to allow 12 dogs and would if have to come back to the RPC.
Mr. Watkins
states yes it has been done like that in the past, but would have to come back to the RPC because the item wasn’t set up for a Residential Kennel with a waiver. Page 10 of 16
Commissioner Koenig
stated that she doesn’t need a waiver and an application for a residential kennel because she already qualifies.
Mr. Watkins
stated yes he is correct she would just need a waiver application and he suggests waiving any fees for that.
Commissioner Goode
asks the applicant that they are still trying buying the property, and that they don’t own it right now.
Ms. Day
stated yes they don’t own the property but it hasn’t closed yet.
Commissioner Goode
asks if the animals are there now, and if they aren’t there when she does move will they put up fencing.
Ms. Day
stated no the animals aren’t there yet, and they do plan on putting up a fence.
Commissioner Hafen
asks Ms. Day if she is agreeable to limit the animals, dogs and cats to 12.
Ms. Day
stated she can’t guarantee that.
Commissioner Hafen
stated that if they approve it at twelve you wouldn’t be satisfied with that.
Ms. Day
stated no, if she has dogs returned to her or if they have puppies she might keep one or add another dog. This is normal for her and she can’t guarantee if they stay at 12. This is why she went with a commercial kennel and not the residential.
Commissioner Hafen
asks if there is a number she would be satisfied with. No one in the audience would be happy with 100 dogs.
Ms. Day
couldn’t say, she believes 20 would be too many. If she has a litter of 10 puppies it will put her numbers over 20.
Commissioner Parker
asks Mr. Watkins if there is a way to limit her to 14-15 dogs plus a litter of puppies that she can keep until a certain age, and how would we word it.
Mr. Watkins
stated yes there is a way to do that through the waiver process. He would have to look at all the conditions of approval to determine how it could be worded.
Commissioner Koenig
states what Commissioner Parker is wanting is to motion to make it a commercial kennel and a condition
Commissioner Parker
states that she could have no more than 15 dogs and how do we handle an occasional litter of puppies if she isn’t breeding on a regular basis. If she has 12 dogs now and then has 5 puppies she would be over the limit. Is there a way to limit the adult dogs. Page 11 of 16
Mr. Watkins
states and require the removal of any litters within a reasonable period.
Commissioner Parker
stated correct, that way the number of adult dogs doesn’t grow. If she were to make a motion to that affect how would she word it.
Commissioner Koenig
asks if the key would be the number of adult dogs.
Mr. Watkins
states they would put a limit on adult dogs and then it would grow into any litters that were produced by those adult dogs. It could say any litters of these adult dogs that have been limited will be disposed of within 12 weeks of birthing or something along those lines.
Ms. Day
states she didn’t realize there would be this much discussion and didn’t think this would be a problem. If you can just vote on the commercial kennel and if you don’t want it she can go from there. If the neighbors are against it it might be the best to say no.
Commissioner King
asks where the dogs are now.
Ms. Day
stated in Maryland.
Commissioner Parker
asks if she would be agreeable to 14 adult dogs and no older than 3 months.
Commissioner McCall
asks Mr. Day at what age does she normally get rid of her entire litter, is it by the time they are 6 months old.
Ms. Day
stated she normally keeps some, but it is normally 6-8 weeks.
Commissioner McCall
asks if we put an age limit, with no dogs over 4 -6 months.
Ms. Day
stated she just came here for the commercial kennel license with no restrictions even if it is for personal use.
Commissioner Koenig
asks for a motion.
Commissioner Koenig
states it failed for a lack of motion.
9. CU-12-0019: Conditional Use Permit (CUP) application to allow Body Art in the
Ms. Lee
reviews staff report. The GC zoning district does allow Body Art with a CUP, there has been one letter of opposition. Staff recommends approval based on findings in the staff report.
Commissioner Koenig
refers to the applicant. Brian Jones, applicant states that he has been a professional artist for over 18 years. He has never had a health score less than 100. He was on the instructional video for the state of Tennessee.
Commissioner McCall
asks the applicant if he has read and accepts the conditions.
Commissioner Parker
motions to approve CU-12-00019 application to allow Body Art in the GC zoning district based on staff findings. Commissioner McCall seconds.
10. ET-12-0001: Extension of Time application to extend the expiration date of
Commissioner Koenig
refers to staff.
Mr. Osborne
reviews staff report, the previous CUP was for three years and approved in 2009. Staff recommends approval with all original conditions from 2009 with an extension for 3 years.
Commissioner Koenig
refers to the applicant. Lorena Walter, applicant, is fine with the three years extension. She now has someone to help her with her business plan and help request for funding grants.
Commissioner McCall
asks if the applicant has read and understood the proposed special conditions.
Ms. Walter
stated yes. Page 13 of 16
Commissioner King
asks if she has started any construction on the property.
Ms. Walter
stated no, she still needs to get the funding.
Commissioner Hafen
asks if she has horses on the property.
Ms. Walter
stated she does have three but they are hers.
Commissioner Hafen
asks if they are rescue horses or for personal use.
Ms. Walter
stated they are her horses.
Commissioner Hafen
stated in the original conditions it stated she was within 400 ft of water and sewer lines.
Commissioner Hafen
asks Ms. Walter if she is within the 400 ft.
Ms. Walter
stated that a few years ago she was told she wouldn’t have to abandon because the lines would go up and the water line would go back down to her house.
Commissioner Hafen
stated that the only lines he is aware of in that vicinity are force mains and you don’t want to tap into those.
Commissioner Hafen
motions to approve ET-12-0001 to extend the expiration date of the CUP CU-09-0010 for an additional 5 years to allow the development of an animal rescue. Also striking condition #14 that would require them to hook up to the nearest utility company since there are not water or sewer lines within 400 ft.
Commissioner Koenig
asks Commissioner Hafen if it is for 5 years and not three as recommended.
11. a. MP-12-0008: (Minor) Master Plan Amendment application to change
Commissioner Koenig
refers to staff.
Ms. Lee
reviews the staff report, the subject property was developed before Master Planning or Zoning. Staff feels that they should be zoned according to their uses and recommends approval.
Commissioner Parker
motions to approve MP-12-0008 to change 14.63 acres from GC to CF and ZC-12-0010 to change 14.63 acres GC to CF. Commissioner McCall seconds.
12. Discussion and Direction Concerning Items for Future Meetings/Workshops; Set
Commissioner Koenig
directs staff to look into the difference between a Residential Kennel and Commercial Kennels. When people move into town and have 12 dogs we need further direction either from staff or the DA.
Ms. Lee
stated we could also revisit the hobby breeder that was denied previously. The next meeting will be December 12, 2012 at 6 pm.